Dog Beach - Huntington Beach California - the happiest place on earth. Specially in January.

s'more

and more

and the last

Owned!!!!

I was gonna say... LOL!

HB is awesome in the winter. No crowds, traffic, cops, etc. Is it mellow down in Galveston too Doc? With dog beaches?

hehehe... I knew I liked Jack Russells. ;)

Cute Shiba in the first batch of pics too... I'm amazed he's having a good time. My Sheebs hate water as much as cats do.

Now we want to see pictures of what the inside of your 8 looked like after you took that sopping wet, sand-encrusted happy dog home. It's times like this when you really need a Honda Element with the hoseable interior.

Well, as long as this thread has been opened, here's Scout, our 9 month old "Goldendoodle," (half golden retriever, half standard poodle.) BTW, she's the reason that I had to have a back seat and one of the reasons I opted for an RX-8 rather than a 2 door coupe. (Not that my life choices are determined by my dog; no, not at all.) :)

My babies.

hehehe... I knew I liked Jack Russells. ;)

Cute Shiba in the first batch of pics too... I'm amazed he's having a good time. My Sheebs hate water as much as cats do.

Now we want to see pictures of what the inside of your 8 looked like after you took that sopping wet, sand-encrusted happy dog home. It's times like this when you really need a Honda Element with the hoseable interior.

I don't think I saw the Shiba in the water. Some dogs go for the water, some just go because it's a great dog party. Your dogs would love it.

That picture with the Jack Russell is a bit deceptive - she was going for the big ball, not the little balls. She was pushing that football almost bigger than her all over the beach. Great dog.

You can inspect the 8 all you want. Our Goldie doesn't get to ride in that. We have an Expedition (AKA The Boat Puller) that's perfect for these trips. A run through the car wash to vacuum the sand out of the back and wash the slobber off the middle console and it's as good as new.

Here's mine

1. Sammy and Abby

2. Sammy, Casey, and Herby

3. Herby the Devil Dog on Halloween

...You can inspect the 8 all you want. Our Goldie doesn't get to ride in that. We have an Expedition (AKA The Boat Puller) that's perfect for these trips. A run through the car wash to vacuum the sand out of the back and wash the slobber off the middle console and it's as good as new.

The main "Dog Car" is Scout's Saab 9-5 Sportswagon. (Yup, another car purchased largely for her comfort/convenience.) For trips in the RX-8, I purchased a back seat cover that is designed somewhat like a hammock. It attaches around the headrests of the front seats and through the seat belt hooks at the top corners of the rear seat. Works great.

http://www.orvis.com/store/product_choice.asp?pf_id=535J&feature_id=&dir_id=1633&group_id=1928&cat_id=5826&subcat_id=7016&shop_id=

Well, as long as this thread has been opened, here's Scout, our 9 month old "Goldendoodle," (half golden retriever, half standard poodle.) BTW, she's the reason that I had to have a back seat and one of the reasons I opted for an RX-8 rather than a 2 door coupe. (Not that my life choices are determined by my dog; no, not at all.) :)

Cute dog. My parents have one of those - they rescued her from an abusive family. My sister also has one, who happens to be the sister of my parents' dog. They live a couple of miles away from each other, so the dogs get to see each other quite often. Their dogs look quite a bit different, because they keep the hair short and more poodle-like.

I'm gonna send them your pic so they can see a shaggy one!

My doggy toby would love that beach! he is in the second picture, the first is just damn funny!
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39166
http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39167

Here's a litter of Shiba Inu's at 21 days! and our girl at 16 months standing guard (watching out 3 sets of windows) :)

Here's a litter of Shiba Inu's at 21 days! and our girl at 16 months standing guard (watching out 3 sets of windows) :)

Must be "Shiba Inu" week. Saw the first one of the breed in person last week and then saw another at the National Dog Show on TV the other night. Both the owner I met and the commentator on TV characterized the breed as "cat like." Our cats took offense.
:)

Shiba - what a striking beautiful dog! I've never seen one before.

Question on the "owned" pic which is a great caption :D What's the li'l dog that's in the bottom right of the pic? Thx.

Shiba - what a striking beautiful dog! I've never seen one before.

Question on the "owned" pic which is a great caption :D What's the li'l dog that's in the bottom right of the pic? Thx.

Poolside, you have excellent taste in canines! ;) Check out the current issue of "DOG FANCY" magazine -- there' s a Shiba on the cover, and an excellent article inside that tells the real story about what it's like to be owned by a Shiba (no, that's not a typo). I have a page of my Shibas' pics here. (http://homepage.mac.com/jeribrav/PhotoAlbum15.html)

The dog in the "owned" pic with all four feet off the ground is a Jack Russell terrier -- same breed as Eddie on "Frasier". The little one trotting alongside looks like a French Bulldog.

Here's a pic I took just the other day that exemplifies Life According to Shibas. People get the floor; Shibas get the sofa.

Thx Aratinga. The Shiba is a very beautiful dog and an ideal size. I read that for breed purposes the cream was not desirable but I think she's gorgeous.

I love the li'l guy trotting along in that pic. I'm more of a cat person as you can probably tell (more practical for my life style) but that dog looks just adorable to me. I could just kiss him to death! I positvely fell in love with a pug (Rocky LOL) when I was visiting someone in NC 3 years ago. I'm a softie for critters :D

Poolside, you have excellent taste in canines! ;) Check out the current issue of "DOG FANCY" magazine -- there' s a Shiba on the cover, and an excellent article inside that tells the real story about what it's like to be owned by a Shiba (no, that's not a typo). I have a page of my Shibas' pics here. (http://homepage.mac.com/jeribrav/PhotoAlbum15.html)

The dog in the "owned" pic with all four feet off the ground is a Jack Russell terrier -- same breed as Eddie on "Frasier". The little one trotting alongside looks like a French Bulldog.

Here's a pic I took just the other day that exemplifies Life According to Shibas. People get the floor; Shibas get the sofa.

That seems to be my usual position too! :)

Must be "Shiba Inu" week. Saw the first one of the breed in person last week and then saw another at the National Dog Show on TV the other night. Both the owner I met and the commentator on TV characterized the breed as "cat like." Our cats took offense.
:)


Our cat stopped grooming herself five years ago, she's twenty now. Since we got our Shiba she's taking care of the cat grooming.

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39135

Ewww, wet dog.

But I love dogs, too bad I don't have any place I can keep one although my gf's been bugging me to get one. And she's probably allergic too. :(

But I love dogs, too bad I don't have any place I can keep one although my gf's been bugging me to get one. And she's probably allergic too. :(
I want another dog, too, but my wife and I work long hours and have a long commute. It just wouldn't be fair to a dog to be stuck at home for 12 or 14 a day with no human contact. Plus, after the debaucle with our last dog, my wife is a little put off by the idea of another dog.

When we do get another dog it will most likely be a Welsh Corgi or a Basset Hound. I'd love to have something bigger like a Bernese Mountain Dog, but they are much too large for my little house and yard. Maybe when we build the next house.

You should check out Mastiff's...those are huge...and I absolutely adore them..they are such humongous babies...my wife and I have fostered a few...haven't been able to keep any because of the current clan of animals we do have...but man..they are awesome dogs...and they are insiders...they don't like to stay outside to much...kinda like Great Danes..

Mastiffs Don't Live That Long, Maybe 8 Or 9 Years. They Are Cool, But I Need A Dog That Would Live Longer. We Have A Chow-golden Retriever Mix, A Shepherd-airdale Mix And A Yorkie

Today is my Golden's birthday. He's one year old today.

He's fun, beautiful, athletic, smart and eager to please. Just like my 8. :D

Today is my Golden's birthday. He's one year old today.

He's fun, beautiful, athletic, smart and eager to please. Just like my 8. :D

It's surprising the variety of colors Goldies come in. Is it true blondes have more fun?

We have 2 Min-Pins, Spencer and Tyler and we take them to the "leashless dog park" here all the time. There's a lake and trails galore, plus a huge field for them to go crazy in. You just have to watch out for "land mines".

My golden can't be a blonde, he's too smart!

<ducks and runs>

well of course I have to share my dog I am going to name Haley. She is 3 weeks old now, only 2 weeks in these pictures. She is part Papillon and part Rat Terrier, we call her a Rapillon. I'll get to have her full time in another 4-6 weeks, can hardly wait!

Well, as long as this thread has been opened, here's Scout, our 9 month old "Goldendoodle," (half golden retriever, half standard poodle.) BTW, she's the reason that I had to have a back seat and one of the reasons I opted for an RX-8 rather than a 2 door coupe. (Not that my life choices are determined by my dog; no, not at all.) :)

Are you sure about the Golden part? I don't see it...

Are you sure about the Golden part? I don't see it...

That's the problem with these "designer mutts" like Labradoodles and Goldendoodles. People with no knowledge of canine genetics but good marketing instincts take two breeds that differ tremendously genotypically and phenotypically and mate them; then they claim the F1 offspring will all have similar traits that are a combination of the best traits of both parents! What a load of crap. It takes generations of selective breeding to "fix" traits (make them reliably heritable) and these first-generation crosses are all over the map in appearance, temperament, and characteristics. Even members of the same litter won't look anything like each other.

It's a total crapshoot buying one of these things. You might think that by buying a labradoodle you'll get a dog that never sheds and will be great with kids, but you're just as likely to get one that sheds like crazy and is too high-strung to tolerate children.

Too many people must have failed high school biology; it's rather appalling how popular these mongrels have become and how much people get ripped off for when buying them. By the way, if you pay anything over what your local humane society charges to adopt a mutt puppy for one of these designer dogs, you threw your money away.

Just my $.02 as a biologist and breeder of purebred show dogs and horses. YMMV.

C'mon Aratinga, it's a cute dog. I'm just trying to figure out where the Golden went.

It probably has a littermate that looks very much like a Golden, and nothing like a poodle. That's exactly what I mean -- people expect to see an equal blending of both breeds in the offspring, like mixing blue paint with yellow to get green.

That's not what you get. Depending on how the genes get sorted out during meiosis, within that first-generation cross litter you'll get some pups that look mostly like mom, some that look mostly like dad, and some that don't look a damn thing like either parent. In other words, you get MUTTS. Not that there's anything wrong with mutts... but promoting them like they're an established breed and charging up the wazoo for them is ripping people off, IMNSHO.

By the way, the AKC/Eukanuba National Championship dog show is on TV right now. Not a whatever-doodle dog in the bunch, either.

That's the problem with these "designer mutts" like Labradoodles and Goldendoodles. People with no knowledge of canine genetics but good marketing instincts take two breeds that differ tremendously genotypically and phenotypically and mate them; then they claim the F1 offspring will all have similar traits that are a combination of the best traits of both parents! What a load of crap. It takes generations of selective breeding to "fix" traits (make them reliably heritable) and these first-generation crosses are all over the map in appearance, temperament, and characteristics. Even members of the same litter won't look anything like each other.

It's a total crapshoot buying one of these things. You might think that by buying a labradoodle you'll get a dog that never sheds and will be great with kids, but you're just as likely to get one that sheds like crazy and is too high-strung to tolerate children.

Too many people must have failed high school biology; it's rather appalling how popular these mongrels have become and how much people get ripped off for when buying them. By the way, if you pay anything over what your local humane society charges to adopt a mutt puppy for one of these designer dogs, you threw your money away.

Just my $.02 as a biologist and breeder of purebred show dogs and horses. YMMV.


Oh good. I can't believe this thread would appear on this board, but as long as you've started it, I have to respond.

Having owned both standard breeds and crosses in my life, I don't have a strong prejudice one way or the other. However, the notion that standard breeds represent some innately superior dog while crosses are "mongrels" is, frankly, appalling.

The popularity of labradoodles and goldendoodles (silly as the names are) stems in large part from the extrordinarily good experience many owners have had with them. You're quite correct that F1 (first generation) crosses of retrievers and poodles cannot be guaranteed to be as predictable in appearance or traits as comparable offspring of standard breeds

Having said that, however, I have fairly extensive experience with the particular cross (golden retriever/poodle) going back to 1972. In all that time, I've never encountered a single offspring that "sheds like crazy and is too high strung to tolerate children." Not saying that they don't exist, but I've known about 50 dogs fairly well in the last 30 years, and that's been my experience. (Yes, I know "doodles" are a more recent phenomenon. However, I had a golden/poodle cross years ago. She was the best dog I've ever known and lived to be 19 with virtually no health problems until a month before she died.)

On the other hand, there is the decidedly spotty track record of AKC breeds over the last half century. Breeding for the sake of looks in a show ring that results in rampant genetic problems. Collies with skulls so distorted for the sake of looks that the brain cannot develop beyond the size of a lemon. Dalmations with rampant deafness. Bulldogs unable to give birth without human assistance. Although crosses are admittedly somewhat less predictable in looks than standard breeds, they are also less likely to carry recessive genes that result in deformity and disease. Given the choice, I'll take the "mutt."

Finally, I have to say that the notion that AKC recognized breeds are somehow authentic and others are not is a very strange one. It's not as if the current selection of breeds sprang forth from the Garden of Eden. Each one is the result of crossing existing breeds.

As for "throwing one's money away" on a dog, I find that to be a bizarre notion. Dogs are "worth" what the market says they're worth, not what a "breeder of show dogs and horses" says they're worth.

Personally, I'd never spend $100K for an automobile but I'd hardly be so arrogant as to say anyone who does "threw their money away." (And my friend who recently purchased a Civic for $15K is polite enough not to tell me that she considers me an idiot for spending twice that on an RX-8.)

My wife and I purchased a golden/poodle cross because it was the dog we wanted. She has the termperament of a golden retriever and the intelligence and non-shedding coat of a poodle. No AKC breed provided what we were looking for.

Since we don't plan to breed her, we have no apologies to make to breeders of AKC breeds, except perhaps, to apologize for not paying for the "privilege" of owning an inbred, genetically weak offspring "designed" to meet someone else's notion of what a dog should be.

It probably has a littermate that looks very much like a Golden, and nothing like a poodle. That's exactly what I mean -- people expect to see an equal blending of both breeds in the offspring, like mixing blue paint with yellow to get green.

That's not what you get. Depending on how the genes get sorted out during meiosis, within that first-generation cross litter you'll get some pups that look mostly like mom, some that look mostly like dad, and some that don't look a damn thing like either parent. In other words, you get MUTTS. Not that there's anything wrong with mutts... but promoting them like they're an established breed and charging up the wazoo for them is ripping people off, IMNSHO.

By the way, the AKC/Eukanuba National Championship dog show is on TV right now. Not a whatever-doodle dog in the bunch, either.

Sorry. Wrong again. There were eight pups in Scout's litter and they all are as identical as any AKC breed litter. You're correct that genetic "mixing" is not like mixing paint colors. However, in the case of retriever/poodle crosses, the vast majority of F1 (First generation) hybrids do exhibit traits of both breeds.

You're also correct that "doodles" are not recognized by the AKC. I suspect that will change in the future as it has for virtually every breed that is currently represented in the show ring. Not that it matters to me. I'm a great fan of both the Westminster and the Eukanuba Championship, but mainly to get a look at the bad breeding choices of the handlers' parents.
:)

Ooh, liberal fight!!!!!

<Speed-ER doc goes to get popcorn>

Are you sure about the Golden part? I don't see it...

Yes, I'm quite sure about the "golden part." Scout's head and snout are considerably broader than a standard poodle. Her eyes are pure golden retriever and her coat is much wavier and less curly than a standard poodle. Fortunately, she's less likely to have inherited the problems of either breed, mainly propensity to hip dysplasia and problems with her eyes.

P.S. Apologies for contributing to hijacking a heartwarming thread on folks' dogs to discuss a rather parochial set of issues about canine breeding. My only defense is that insulting my dog is akin to insulting my daughter.
:)

Ooh, liberal fight!!!!!

<Speed-ER doc goes to get popcorn>

Pass some of that this way, this is getting good.

EDIT: Where the hell did that sad face come from! :confused:

Ooh, liberal fight!!!!!

<Speed-ER doc goes to get popcorn>

<chuckle>...Actually it's a disguised argument over eugenics.
:)

My only defense is that insulting my dog is akin to insulting my daughter.

Yup. That's how I'd feel.

My dog Ginger, who died last year. A Shar-Pei, not up to show standards (pink nose, speckled tongue). She had some of the recessive characteristics typical of her breed....skin problems and amyloidosis. She was profoundly anemic, started losing a lot of weight, and eventually suffered respiratory failure probably from the anemia. I put her to sleep myself.

Why own a purebred dog of a recognized and established breed? Because you know what you're going to get, especially if you do your homework. There are lots of reasons to choose a purebred, but good ones include:

Knowing exactly what to expect the dog to look like when it's mature.
If you don't mind maintaining a long luxurious coat, go for the Afghan hound. If you'd prefer sleek and low-maintenance, the greyhound. Not fond of shedding? A poodle. Size, color, and activity level at maturity can also be reliably predicted.
Knowing the predominant temperament traits of that breed.
Responsible breeders of purebred dogs (this does NOT include anyone whose pups end up in pet stores, btw) consider temperament at least as important as any physical trait they breed for. There are certain breeds that are protective, others that love everyone, others still that are especially good for families with children.
Knowing that, should you responsibly choose to breed that dog, it will reliably pass those traits on to its offspring.
I'll love seeing what people start getting when they breed their darling Labradoodle to the other Labradoodle down the street. What a motley crew that'll be! The F2 generation is likely to be even more a hodgepodge than the F1. Don't expect those pups to look anything like mom or dad... if they do, it's by sheer luck.


It's true that purebred dogs have hereditary problems as well as strengths. Deleterious genes lurk in every canine, mutt or aristocrat, but the breeding practices that concentrate desireable genes in breed lines can also concentrate the bad ones. However, responsible breeders assiduously screen their breeding animals for these problems and do not breed affected animals or those proven to be carriers. Again, if you do your homework for the breed you're considering, you will know which problems are known to exist in that breed and you'll know to ask the breeder to provide proof of screening.

I would like to see some genetic studies that support the claim that crossbreds like the -Doodles "... are also less likely to carry recessive genes that result in deformity and disease." They carry the exact same genes their (allegedly) purebred parents gave them! Perhaps you meant to say that they don't EXPRESS those genes. I'm sensing that people wrongly assume that we have some sort of "hybrid vigor" deal going on here. That works with mules, maybe (where you're breeding two animals of entirely different SPECIES together) but c'mon -- dogs are dogs. These aren't hybrids we're talking about here. They're mutts.

I realize that some of you think I'm dissing any dog that doesn't have an illustrious pedigree. Not at all! I love dogs, mutt and purebred alike. What I DON'T like is fast-buck artists who sell cross-bred puppies created from what was probably an "OOPS!" mating as if they were purebred dogs with generations of selective breeding behind them. But as P.T. Barnum is alleged to have once said.... :rolleyes:

Her eyes are pure golden retriever...

Hmmm... you sure?

My dog Ginger, who died last year. A Shar-Pei, not up to show standards (pink nose, speckled tongue). She had some of the recessive characteristics typical of her breed....skin problems and amyloidosis. She was profoundly anemic, started losing a lot of weight, and eventually suffered respiratory failure probably from the anemia. I put her to sleep myself.

Ahh. The death penalty. (Sorry, couldn't help myself...)

That's really tough. It took me months to get over losing my Jindo. I feel for you.

Ahh. The death penalty. (Sorry, couldn't help myself...)

That's really tough. It took me months to get over losing my Jindo. I feel for you.
I was going to say that Genom shouldn't have stopped scratching his cat (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=50447), but was afraid to appear insensitive....but since you broke the ice.... ;)

our jack russell x silky, name is Opal
pics taken when 8 weeks old
its 4 months old now, and i call him "fatty" :D

our jack russell x silky, name is Opal
pics taken when 8 weeks old
its 4 months old now, and i call him "fatty" :DGreat dog. I'm very fond of Jack Russell's even though, according to the American Kennel Club, they're just "mongrels." :)

...I'll love seeing what people start getting when they breed their darling Labradoodle to the other Labradoodle down the street. What a motley crew that'll be! The F2 generation is likely to be even more a hodgepodge than the F1. Don't expect those pups to look anything like mom or dad... if they do, it's by sheer luck.

It's true that purebred dogs have hereditary problems as well as strengths. Deleterious genes lurk in every canine, mutt or aristocrat, but the breeding practices that concentrate desireable genes in breed lines can also concentrate the bad ones. However, responsible breeders assiduously screen their breeding animals for these problems and do not breed affected animals or those proven to be carriers. Again, if you do your homework for the breed you're considering, you will know which problems are known to exist in that breed and you'll know to ask the breeder to provide proof of screening.

I would like to see some genetic studies that support the claim that crossbreds like the -Doodles "... are also less likely to carry recessive genes that result in deformity and disease." They carry the exact same genes their (allegedly) purebred parents gave them! Perhaps you meant to say that they don't EXPRESS those genes. I'm sensing that people wrongly assume that we have some sort of "hybrid vigor" deal going on here. That works with mules, maybe (where you're breeding two animals of entirely different SPECIES together) but c'mon -- dogs are dogs. These aren't hybrids we're talking about here. They're mutts.

I realize that some of you think I'm dissing any dog that doesn't have an illustrious pedigree. Not at all! I love dogs, mutt and purebred alike. What I DON'T like is fast-buck artists who sell cross-bred puppies created from what was probably an "OOPS!" mating as if they were purebred dogs with generations of selective breeding behind them. But as P.T. Barnum is alleged to have once said.... :rolleyes:Actually, I think there is some common ground here as well as considerable disagreement.

For example, we'd both agree, I think, that genetic testing of parents and a known bloodline is critical to weeding out genetic weaknesses in offspring. The labradoodle and goldendoodle breeders I know and support would agree completely. Further, I think we'd agree that such testing and control of breeding is expensive and a major reason that breeders must recoup that investment when they sell pups. That's true whether one is referring to an "established breed" or to a cross.

I think we'd also agree that "fast-buck artists" are a plague that deserve to be put out of business. (I'd only note that puppy mills are a common problem among standard breeds. "Fast-buck artists" are not limited, by any means, to breeders of crosses. Check out the sad plight of "established breed" puppies at your local pet store.)

It is also true that multiple generations of breeding is necessary to develop the level of "predictability" in offspring that you believe is so beneficial. That, however, has been true in the development of "established breeds" in the past. Your comments seem to suggest that no one should purchase a dog until the breed is "established." That's just silly.

It's also true that second generation crosses (or third, fourth, or tenth) may not yet exhibit the predictability you prize. Again, however, that has been true of "established breeds," as well. It takes a number of generations to produce such predictabiity. Your comments suggest that there is some arbitrary generational point at which a "breed" exists. That's nonsense. (An examination of "breed standards" suggests just how slippery and arbitrary such "standards" are for many "established" breeds.)

It is also true that cross breeds carry the genetic makeup of their parents. As I'm sure you realize, however, genetic weakness tends to be recessive rather than dominant. (Thanks to Mr. Darwin for that insight.) Thus, increasing the genetic diversity of a breed combined with genetic testing in individuals will naturally enhance the "hybrid vigor" of a breed. (The claim that this applies to mules but not to canines is bogus. It also applies to people. That's what "genetic counseling" for couples is all about. And believe it or not, men and women of different ethnic backgrounds aren't from different "species.")

This argument (which I hope doesn't bore EVERYONE else reading this thread) seems to reflect a belief on the part of some breeders of "established breeds" that (a) they're the only ones who take breeding seriously and (b) that the current diversity of breeds was somehow "established" prehistorically and cannot be altered in any way. In fact, of course, there are breeders of crosses that approach their task with exactly the same level of concern and care that those who established earlier breeds did. Finally, the current "crop" of breeds is little more than a conglomeration of largely political decisions made in groups such as the American Kennel Club. The list wasn't brought down from the mountain by Moses. :)

Your comments seem to suggest that no one should purchase a dog until the breed is "established."
I would like to provide a definition for those who appear to be unclear on the concept at hand:

breed(n.): 1. A group of organisms having common ancestors and certain distinguishable characteristics, especially a group within a species developed by artificial selection and maintained by controlled propagation.
2. a group of animals or plants presumably related by descent from common ancestors and visibly similar in most characters.

A "Labradoodle" is NOT a breed. If someone really wanted to create such a breed, they would have to begin with the offspring of two purebred dogs of different breeds and then, over multiple generations of breeding those crossbred offspring to other crossbreds and occasionally back to a purebred of either breed, establish a line of animals that "breed true" -- meaning that the offspring of all matings closely resemble the parents, grandparents, etc.

All I'm saying is that people are being sold a bill of goods when they shell out good money for a whateverdoodle dog. It's ignorant to assume that all labradoodles will look like other labradoodles, or that they will all possess only the best traits of their two parent breeds with none of the undesireable ones, or that they will produce puppies just like themselves if they are ever bred.

If you feel that all purebred dog breeders are producing genetically inferior specimens riddled with homozygous recessive time bombs in their genes, go to the pound and save a mutt puppy's life. Stray dogs that manage to survive and reproduce against all odds are prime examples of natural selection at work! If you want genetic hardiness, look no further. Remember, the parents of a -Doodle are both weakling purebreds.

And then then donate the rest of what you would have spent on a -Doodle to the humane society for low-cost spay/neuter services.

Breed·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (brdzm)
n.
-The belief that breed accounts for differences in canine character or ability and that a particular breed is superior to others.
-Discrimination or prejudice based on breed

haha, jokes. All dogs rock. Clearly my dog rocks the hardest though :p

lol! While we're at it, might as well define some other canine terms:

bitch(n.):

Yeah, I know I get my hackles raised over some pretty silly stuff in the overall scheme of things. The important thing is to love your dogs, whatever their "breed", and treat them well!

Sorry for the extended hijack, Bernieunger. I owe ya.

I...Remember, the parents of a -Doodle are both weakling purebreds.

Sorry to disagree once again, but Scout's mother is a field champion Golden Retriever and her sire is a show champion standard poodle, as was his father. Hardly "weaklings."

Back to the original topic of cute puppy pics:

Back to the original topic of cute puppy pics:Adorable!:)

These are cute

Our 2 rescues: Jewel the spastic Australian Shepherd and Jake the wimpy Shetland Sheepdog. We got Jewel first and kept her name. Jake was originally Dudley, appropriate for his personality, but we both hated the name. My wife wanted to call him Jack (Jack & Jewel), but then, when he'd jump on the couch, we'd be saying "Jack, off!".

Baron, the german shepard. First pic at about 3 months and only 6 short months later and boot camp he sits for pics :) He is going to be a big un.

These are cute

I think "cute" is a bit of an overstatement for this one. What the heck is it?

Back to the original topic of cute puppy pics:

Now THAT'S cute...

I think "cute" is a bit of an overstatement for this one. What the heck is it?
I have no clue, just saw it randomly. It has a face only it's owner could love though. I look at that thing and think it should have a voice or be a disney character, makes me laugh everytime i look at it

You want cute? I got your cute right here... ( Our dog "Dallas" at about 7-8 weeks).

You want cute? I got your cute right here... ( Our dog "Dallas" at about 7-8 weeks).

Here's the secret to those spotless, shiny dishes at the Unger household.

I think "cute" is a bit of an overstatement for this one. What the heck is it?

It's an upside-down Dogue de Bordeaux. Here's what they look like right-side up.

You're all making miss HB. I haven't gone surfing in 3 years and I was looking out in the water... I remember setting up my dobie on the beach in Ventura and going out in the water surfing. My dog loved to watch me catching waves. He would jump up and start barking and running in circles... ahh... I miss those days. :(

thats my dog. her name is del ....no not like the computer dell....del is welsh and means pretty.


edit: damn! files are to large...

2nd try:
sry only two very qualityreduced pictures

:mad:

i love that dog!

First meeting!

First meeting!

My Jindo dog yelped away from her first meeting with a big bloody scratch across her nose.

Puppy nap time

The reasons I bought a 4 door car.

The reasons I bought a 4 door car.

Have you given them skateboarding lessons (http://rock103.thedataco.com/video/rock103/db7033bfd7380bd3/skateboarddog.wmv) yet?

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! Be still my heart!

The reasons I bought a 4 door car.

Oh my GAWD it's the Ancient Chinese Secret! :cool:

Here's the secret to those spotless, shiny dishes at the Unger household.

Have you given them skateboarding lessons (http://rock103.thedataco.com/video/rock103/db7033bfd7380bd3/skateboarddog.wmv) yet?

that is one of the coolest frickin' things I have ever seen lol no wonder I love dogs so much :D

another one of "del"

Love this thread, must post our bundles of joy. By the way no back seat for our special one see above. She goes to work everyday and we must be safe and secure.


1. Brende's baby pic
2. Willie (now in doggie heaven, he was a momma's boy) Bear and Brendee
3. The Wild Child, Missy, not enough room in the chair so she was on the floor during above pic
4. Can't for get the fat kitty, Bailey
5. Bear's baby pic


And they ALL sleep on our bed at night. Needless to say we don't get good night sleep.

The very spoiled one and her ride.

We have 2 Min-Pins, Spencer and Tyler and we take them to the "leashless dog park" here all the time. There's a lake and trails galore, plus a huge field for them to go crazy in. You just have to watch out for "land mines".


Here they are, it's a camera phone pic from the fall. I couldn't find any more.

http://club.deathguard.org/upload/Showoff/lil%20guys.jpg

I received these via email today, and just had to share them.