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9-K Rever
01-01-2004, 07:33 PM
Hey peops...

My friend is haveing touble with a grinding noice coming from his clutch and tranny.

I took my 8 over there to comapre and my 8 was free of that noise..

Any hints on what it could be?

9-K Rever

cardinal35
01-01-2004, 10:22 PM
it is the pressure plate I am sure- mine did the same thing- they tightened it up and it is good .....for now

9-K Rever
01-01-2004, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by cardinal35
it is the pressure plate I am sure- mine did the same thing- they tightened it up and it is good .....for now

Thanx for the feedback!

bigblockbeater
01-14-2005, 04:28 PM
i have been talking to a law firm about my situation. comes to find out if they don't fix the clutch under warranty then they are breaching contract. the warranty is for 12,000 miles and my clutch gave out at 7,099 miles.

i had asked if i could get some coments from owners who had clutch problems in another thread and was wondering if i could get you to e-mail the statements you all made to me with your name and contact info along with your comment. http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=47518&page=3&pp=15 that is the link to the thread if you just want to copy and paste. your help will be very much appreciated. my e-mail is isuzutrooperfan@yahoo.com

Mikelikes2drive
01-14-2005, 04:39 PM
uhmm the warranty usually only covers the drivetrain doesnt it and i guess electrical problems? and i dont think anyone covers the clutch under warranty because it is a item that wears down over time and differs with everyones driving habits.

but good luck with it!

abbid
01-14-2005, 04:43 PM
^funny you say that Mike. There is exceptions to every rule, i got my clutch replaced, under warranty at 15k miles. The reason for all my problems was because of a manufacturing flaw. Big, if you have any questions feel free to PM me.

Mikelikes2drive
01-14-2005, 04:46 PM
haha i guess im wrong then :D sorry im man enough to admit when i've been beaten

bigblockbeater
01-14-2005, 07:59 PM
the thing about it is, if i was the only one having problems then it would be one thing, but there are a lot of people having issues with the clutch. with many of them exploding! srmotorsports even says the clutch slips http://www.srmotorsports.com/rx8_clutch_flywheels.html

cgrx
01-14-2005, 08:02 PM
bad link

bigblockbeater
01-14-2005, 08:11 PM
http://www.srmotorsports.com/RX8_Clutch_Flywheels.html

sorry this should work

Tbone
01-15-2005, 10:19 AM
Don't trust and ad for an aftermarket clutch. Someone trying to sell you something cannot be used as a reference like that.

I'm just curious how many of the people who have had clutch problems (be honest here, totally) dumped the clutch "maybe just once or twice" to do a burnout, wheelspin, etc..

I've never done it, and don't plan to, but I'm wondering if that is a related factor here.

mysql101
01-15-2005, 10:38 AM
I wasn't sure what to think about bigblockbeater's clutch - but I got to sit in his car and drive it in a parking lot, and I have to agree something is very wrong with it.

The clutch itself is very hard to depress, and it acts like it's half way down already when it's all the way up. So you have to rev it to like 4-5k to start moving, and even then it's crawling. I bet he could shift without pushing the clutch.

abbid mentioned to me that his car always felt like that (hard to press clutch), and bigblock said the same. I think their issues are one and the same.

abbid
01-15-2005, 01:11 PM
Let me attempt to explain somethings that were wrong with mine..

At a stop shifting from neutral to to 1st, it would FEEL like it engaged, but i would have to actually release the clutch partially to get it to fully engage.

The clutch was insanely stiff, id compare it to stepping in mud, compared to poolsidenaz's clutch, which felt like stepping in warm butter.

Downshifting from 3-2 sometimes would grind.

1-2 shift would grind and bounce out if i was above 6000 RPM [before they 'fixed' it]

1-2 shift grinds as it enters gear anything below 4500 RPM [after they 'Fixed' it, another8owner can verify this]

Going from neutral to 1st while at a stop and fully depressed clutch, the car would 'lunge' forward getting into gear.

Incredibly notchy shifts.

if i think of more, ill post em.


BTW, since they havent fixed it yet, they ordered me a 'updated shift fork, VIA tsb.' if you recall, Boxcar had this same issue, and this is the same dealer.

Dookie_Rx-8
01-15-2005, 02:24 PM
i had clutch replaced under warrenty because it gave out. Reason is factory did not torqe it right.

abbid
01-15-2005, 02:35 PM
^ i was in this same situation, but because of that, it caused a whole bunch of problems in my transmission. This is still a standing issue, my cars been in the shop 5 times for tranny, and will probably go in for 6,7 and 8. lemon law anyone?

Slims8
01-17-2005, 02:05 PM
... I would have to vote against Lemon Law. I've been there. First, the warranty does not cover wear and tear parts... That's the first thing they will say. But, as Abbid said, there are exceptions. If it is burnt you will have a hard time fighting it, but they would probably give. Technically, if it's burnt, they do not have to replace it. In my case and most others, it exploded or came apart. This should not happen in any circumstance.

I was without my car for 40 days the first time, then 12 more, then 95 or so the third time. The best thing to do is make SURE you get in touch with the district rep. I was tossed around like a ping pong ball until I finally talked to someone that had some say so in the decision. The dealership only gets paid for the warranty Mazda pays for, and Customer Assistance can't give authority for a repair.

Abbid, still having issues?

abbid
01-17-2005, 02:30 PM
slims, yes im still having issues, they ordered a replacement shift fork for it and will install that when it comes in. I have a feeling its not the shift fork. I might have to invoke the lemon law in my scenario, 6 times to the dealer, and im still having issues...

Slims8
01-17-2005, 04:43 PM
slims, yes im still having issues, they ordered a replacement shift fork for it and will install that when it comes in. I have a feeling its not the shift fork. I might have to invoke the lemon law in my scenario, 6 times to the dealer, and im still having issues...
good luck... Have you spoke with a district rep? What I have found is that most of the time they aren't given all of the information and may not even know how mad you are about this. Just a thought...

That sucks though, let me know how it goes.

bigblockbeater
01-17-2005, 07:28 PM
thank you all for your posts but i was asking for e-mails. so far i only recieved one. if i show the attorney the forum thread he might laugh at me. but if i have the e-mails with contact info at least the messages can be verified if need be. thanks again

bigblockbeater
01-20-2005, 08:10 PM
i have printed on both sides of 28 sheets of paper complaints and problems reported about the manual transmission and clutch. and there is more that could be printed if need be.

w0rm
01-24-2005, 02:37 PM
Hey guys. I've got an 05 and considered posting to the stickied transmission issues thread but the problem(aside from the occasional grind to second) I'm running into is a little strange.

In short, I push the clutch in and it doesnt feel like it disengages in synch with my foot motions. At slow speeds(pulling in to park) this is increasingly noticable. There is even a 'twang' or 'click'(think of a cable being pulled taught) if that makes any sense at all like something is giving very slightly before it actually disengages.

I only notice it after I've been driving for a while. Ideas, suggestions?

eclps0
01-24-2005, 07:08 PM
ahhh i had that it turns out my clutch was shot, and my 2nd gear was missing a tooth. They rebuilt entire tranny warrentied. Just telling you it will get worse and worse it got the point it would click and stick liek 3 times per push of teh clutch. Nad 2 ghear grinded all the time, 6th was gone, reverse was a task to get in.

dj.stains
01-25-2005, 01:01 AM
my 2004 RX8 made ahonking noise when i pushed in the clutch so the dealership changed my clutch master

bigblockbeater
01-25-2005, 01:21 AM
take that car to the dealer asap! tell them everything that is wrong or think may be wrong. have them put everything in writing. if they tell you its normal wear and tear (as they did me) then raise hell. i am going so far as to get an attorney to get my problem fixed. do a forum search on "clutch" you will be amazed at what you find.

Rotaryx2
01-25-2005, 03:41 PM
My clutch gave up w/ 4k miles and they replaced it. The dealer never gave me any paperwork they simply stated it was bad. (I found that odd) They said they would mail it however I never received anything.
The clutch went during a downshift from5-4th.

-Al

ZGlide
01-28-2005, 08:53 PM
I also get this grinding/heavy rattling noise when I accelereate, this noise is especially loud in 4th gear when i'm in lower rpm (under 3500). is this the same thing you guys are experiencing? the noise is actually getting louder!

xxdevilzeroxx
02-01-2005, 03:06 AM
does anyone have issues with ther 5th gear? i hate going into 5th over 5K, it ALWAYS Grinds!!!!! wtf is wrong with this thing??

zomzomp5
02-01-2005, 03:38 AM
NO problem here. Had here for 1 1/2 year now. Still smooth as the first day.

itsallaboutgary
02-01-2005, 03:49 AM
take it in my friend!

Paul_in_DC
02-01-2005, 05:43 AM
I found that my hand position on the shift knob made a big difference. With my hand on top, I sometimes "ground" it getting into 5th; even 3rd was a problem. Now with my hand on the side, holding it like I would a hammer, it's easier to shove it diagonally into 5th. But I do occasionally have problems going from 5th to 6th.

xxdevilzeroxx
02-01-2005, 11:26 AM
getting the gear in is easy, everytime i do it over 6k rev it grinds b4 it goes in

StewC625
02-01-2005, 12:04 PM
Try using the clutch.

Seriously, you're probably hurrying the shift - if you hold the clutch conciously down and shift deliberately, does it still grind? My guess is not. Take a hair more time shifting.

MyRxBad
02-01-2005, 04:02 PM
At first I thought this thread was about the car show, not the transmission.. LOL!

It's either your method of shifting or maybe something's wrong w/the syncho.

Grabitquick
02-01-2005, 04:31 PM
Try using the clutch.

Seriously, you're probably hurrying the shift - if you hold the clutch conciously down and shift deliberately, does it still grind? My guess is not. Take a hair more time shifting.

I agree. At least for me, shifting into 5th requires a somewhat unnatural motion, and I have to do it very deliberately. However, I haven't miss-shifted into 3rd yet. Going from 5th to 6th also requires some deliberation, but not as much.

guitrblus
02-01-2005, 04:37 PM
I found that the best way to shift from 5th to 6th is to grab the shifter as if you were emptying a can of soda. Then, as you pull it down and away it goes nice and smooth.