You may have missed the fun we had at Road Atlanta on Oct 9th and again on Dec 11th but don't let the next event pass you by!

Our next Road Atlanta track event will be a NASA HPDE on March 19 and 20th. That's right - it will be 2 days of track excitement and driver education. To register, go to https://www.nasaproracing.com/nasa_event/show/?event_id=190. The cost of the 2 day event is $299. There are 4 HPDE groups. HPDE1 is for novices and it gets you an instructor riding with you. HPDE2 is for someone with track experience and is solo. HPDE3 is the really fast group and HPDE4 is for the instructors. More than likely you should go for the HPDE1 group if you havn't done NASA before. They can sign off on you and bump you up to HPDE2 as I understand. If you have questions visit the NASA SE forum at http://www.nasaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=42&sid=a2fa535ca4651f73cae6af4afb99af3c to determine which group you should run in. The main NASA website and forum also have tons of info on the HPDEs. Also, make sure you sign up for an instructor if you are in HPDE1.

If you are not a NASA member you will have to buy a NASA membership for $35 (I think). It includes a subscription to Grassroots Motorsports magazine which makes for excellent reading for those of you have more motor oil than blood running through your veins. The membership also gives you free entry to NASA events as a spectator. It sounds like a cool organization and the weekend features several different car classes of real wheel to wheel racing. This makes the weekend fun as a participant and a spectator.

If you aren't sure whether you want to do this, read some of the posts in the December or October track day event threads. There are videos in this forum from my car as well as Legokcen's car.

From an organization stand point, the plan at this point is to have a Friday evening get together with details to follow. Hopefully Mazcare will be able to accomodate us again. Additionally, our friend and fellow forum member SilverEight will be taking stills and video from various vantage points around the track and will cover our event as a journalist with possible coverage in a rotary publication. We will probably have several vehicles equipped with cameras for exciting RX8 footage which can be produced into DVDs or shared in other manners.

I look forward to sharing the track with the great new friends I have made through the forum and the previous track events. I also look forward to seeing our group of enthusiasts grow in number. I hope we can get some of our brothers and sisters from around the country and the RX7 club to join us and experience this awesome roadcourse.

Happy New Year and see you at the bottom of turn 12!

Thanks for posting this info Nabil. Another sticky?!?! Hope to see you there.

I'm In!!! WooHoo!!! C-yall there!!

Anyone up for sharing room/suite for friday/saturday nights?

Is Charlie going to this one? I'm gonna run the Kumho's this time....for the $ what a great tire....I even like them better than the Pilots I had. I could buy almost three sets of these for what I had in the Pilots (which I sold the same day I got these).

Can't wait....just two months away!!!

Pam, Denny, splan, you in???

glad you remembered the others...I had a brain fart and drew a blank.....

I think it would be great to see the Bama folks there as well. Any ideas how big this group can be?

i'm thinking about it. (you know i will be there if i can)
Question, for the people doing video--are those digital cams you are using or cassette?
By the way Phlash how many sets of tires are you going to get? Damn! You are the tire man dude!
olddragger

Yeah, why not! I'll probably do it. I can pay off the credit cards by then...maybe.

I'll be bringing the FD, thanks for the heads up. How much track time are we talking about for HPDE?

Tim

i'm thinking about it. (you know i will be there if i can)
Question, for the people doing video--are those digital cams you are using or cassette?
By the way Phlash how many sets of tires are you going to get? Damn! You are the tire man dude!
olddragger
Yeah, I'm experimenting........I really like these Kumho's

I'll be bringing the FD, thanks for the heads up. How much track time are we talking about for HPDE?

Tim
According to the HPDE forum, we can see 3 to 4 hours over the two days. There is also class time.

WooHoo!! Three more verbals!! Five so far....

It wouldn't be the same without you. You seem to be the fastest 8 out there so we need you to lead the way. As for the video, I used mini DV which is a digital tape format.

And yes, Phlash is the official tire sampler. We expect write ups and recommendations. BTW, why didn't you choose the Kumho MX tires? Do you have snow and ice to deal with in TN?The ASX is getting great reviews.....it's a W rated tire, really quiet, and really sticky in the rain. It has a new tread compound that allows it to be rated at a 30k tire (yeah right....I'll believe that when I see it). So far, I'm very impressed for 140 a pop......I can go through 2.5 sets of these for the $'s I had in the Pilots. Sold the pilots for darn near what I paid so I see me using that $'s for the flywheel install and NASA event.

Nabil,
I don't know about being the fastest 8 out there--I think it may be because I am the only one with bifocals--I can't see the track so I just floor it! Thanks for the compliement though.
Looks like I will need to borrow a camcorder. Mine is the old minicassette type and the quality may not be good.
$299 for TWO days. Thats a good price. That way we can take our time learning as there will be PLENTY of track time. Although by then my stock Ponzo's will have about 15000 on them.
Since this is a 2 day event I'm trying to invite the family along for a while (then they can do other stuff if they get bored).
My custom intake will be much more refined and I have enlarged the intake pipe from 3 inches to 4. Any bigger and I might start sucking birds up that thing!
Phlash I hope that flywheel works out for ya man. Can't wait to hear the differance in the quicker revs.
Meanwhile march is a long way off. I'm trying to get enough funds to purchase a canscan,egreddy software and cable so I can custom tune my cz unit. Others are getting a 30hp increase by doing this and I dont know of anyone in the state of Ga that has done this. I may as well be the guinea pig. I may even look into the midpipe just for track days.
later guys(and Pam)
Oh by the way Pam, I have be bragging about you to the locals here!
Olddragger

Hi guys,
Well, I'm in for this one!!!
Could it possibly be more fun than the other days?
Pam

-just signed up!
can't wait to see you all there...come on Dennis don't make us beg!

This will give me some added incentive to do my 99 front and rear brake sway to the FD and swap the fluids before March. Still need a helmet too.

Tim

Still need a helmet too.

Tim
Take a look on ebay. There are half a dozen vendors with great pricing for every budget.

I'll be signing up too. I'm hoping by then to have a trailer hitch & small trailer to bring up the race tires. We'll see. I want to get something like this.

http://www.mainstreet-data.com/trailer/

on a totally different note...anyone here want a gmail (Google's free email) account......I have a few invitations left over.....PM me....

Well,
It's offical. I'm in. Just registered today. God help me. This is just too much fun.
olddragger

Well,
It's offical. I'm in. Just registered today. God help me. This is just too much fun.
olddragger
WooHoo!!

"The Boss" just said "Sure, that sounds like fun!"

So, I'm in. Wow, the wife is supporting my 8 addiction. I couldn't have asked for anything better.

Signed up late last night -- so now it's time to find me a helmet.

Thanks for the post! This should prove to be quite fun.

How do we find out how many slots are left for HDPE 1?

Tim

hey is everyone signing up for hdpe 2 class? thats what i did.
cant wait to see that fd out there Tim. really cool car.
welcome aboard rxeightr you will have a blast!
olddragger

I'm in and registered for group 1 since the last track event I went to was a PCA in 98, or was it Peachtree BMW?

As far as helmets, the website says M90 or SA 90 are required. That means SA 1990 or M1990 right? so M2000 is good to go?

Tim

okay explain m2000, m90 and sa90 helmet differences. I have a new helmet that DOT rated but not sure beyond that. I am in HPDE1

Hey Lego,

When are we gonna get to see the video with you and Charlie?

Hey Lego,

When are we gonna get to see the video with you and Charlie?

Oops, I'm sorry. It totally slipped my mind. I'm uploading it to you as I'm writting this. You can hear the instructions alright. Sometimes the wind noise gets in the way, but it's all there. You'll be able to see how I got better as the session went on by his instruction. He was a great coach.

well, heck am i the only one that has asked for group 2? I thought that was the equal to b class with panoz?
olddragger

well, heck am i the only one that has asked for group 2? I thought that was the equal to b class with panoz?
olddragger
I think it would be nice to do group one with a coach, then move to group two. You can request group one still.

Gordon, did you get the file?

I'm looking forward to shooting you guys on and off the track at the NASA event. Thanks for letting me be part of the group even though I'm not racing. I think you will enjoy the images as much as I will enjoy taking them.

A couple questions:
1. How many times will you get on the track during the two days?
2. How many laps will you go each time?
3. How many different classes will you guys be running?
4. Are there warm up or practice laps outside of the scheduled events?

What I'm trying to find out is how much time I will have to get around the track and be in different locations. I may be riding my bicycle (I'm not sure yet) and it gets REALLY hard for someone as out of shape as I am. Best to be as efficient as possible.

legokcen
Sorry if my Avatar is similar to yours… it’s only temporary and has a completely different meaning.

cool, we'll have track pictures.

Tim

legokcen
Sorry if my Avatar is similar to yours… it’s only temporary and has a completely different meaning.

COPYCAT!!! :)
LOL. Just kidding, I couldn't care in the slightest. :)

okay boys and girls....hot off of the camera from lego's 3rd session ride with coach Charlie........Enjoy.........

http://www.geralds.net/trackdays121104/charliesession3.wmv

Gordon, did you get the file?
Posted on this thread today. Thanks!

1. Looks like 4 times/day
2. about 10 laps per session (20 minutes turning 2 minute laps)
3. at most 2 classes (HPDE1 and 2)
4. There is track touring at lunch where speeds are limited but I am not sure how it works exactly.Awesome! Thanks

Downloaded the video, what's up with the matching green shirts/light jackets? :)

Tim

okay boys and girls....hot off of the camera from lego's 3rd session ride with coach Charlie........Enjoy.........

http://www.geralds.net/trackdays121104/charliesession3.wmv Hey, lego... that was fun and educational. :)

I just realized who you were talking about when you meant coach Charlie. Charlie Shatzen from Mazcare. I wonder if he's going to be instructing again for this event.

Tim

I just realized who you were talking about when you meant coach Charlie. Charlie Shatzen from Mazcare. I wonder if he's going to be instructing again for this event.

Tim Was at his place Friday. He's not sure yet......I asked, even if I paid his ride along fee......we'll see.....he's a speed freak........he may.......:D

I gave him a call as well. Although he hasn't had to do any work on my 7 since 1998ish, I always stay in touch with him and the crew at Mazcare.

Tim

As Charlie put it..."it's got some snap"

Not real noticable until you get the car to 4500rpms and above. Pick any gear, at that point it really lights up. Also spins down faster....that took a little practice to keep revs where I wanted them when downshifting. The car sets into a cruise groove about 10-15 mph higher than it did before (85-90mph vs 70-75 before). So, I find (catch) myself cruising at a little higher speed and have had to make an adjustment there as well. It may be a fluke, but got my best tank of gas ever after the install. 288.3 miles with the amber light just coming on. Pushing it, I bet I could have seen 300 miles on the tank. I'm happy with the upgrade. If things are this much better with a steel lightweight flywheel, then an aluminum flywheel must be the cat's ass. Maybe when the clutch needs to be replaced.

I just agreed to purchase front and rear RB sways with endlinks from someone. Hopefully I should have them next week. Also looking to buy TEIN FLEX coilcovers and the controller for them. Unfortunately, looks like I'm gonna have to change to a different strut bar due to the fact the the remote damper controllers won't fit under the CP brace I just got...grrrrr....so a MazdaSpeed brace may be in my future and I'll sell the CP unit. God knows I can ship the CP unit to someone a whole hell of a lot faster than I got it......now if I can just find a deal on the MS strutbar......

got the helmet in, working on the brakes, should be goo dot go for the event. Letting Charlie do the tech inspection so I can work on him about joining in.

Tim

Downloaded the video, what's up with the matching green shirts/light jackets? :)

Tim

Complete Coincidence.

Hey, lego... that was fun and educational. :)


I'm glad you enjoyed it. For me, it was a hell of a lot more fun and educational!

I want a flywhell momma.
Actually i want a can scan and stuff 1st.
its too long til the end of march
olddragger

Me excited! :D

I've invited my father to come watch and hang out. Not sure if he'll take me up on it......

Those of you coming from out of town......any interest in splitting a suite(s) near the track for the two nights? Not sure where yet, but just a thought....it'd be cheaper than getting a bunch of seperate rooms....

If you like a B&B, you may want to try Whitworth Inn (770-967-2386), it’s close to Lake Lanier (not on the lake). It's off of McEver (Peachtree Industrial). My Father-in-law stays their when comes to visit. Traveling from Road Atlanta to Oakwood, go to McEver Rd, turn left, go about 5+ miles? If you want more info give them a call.

Others:
Country Inn & Suites, Oakwood: 770-535-8080
Comfort Inn, Oakwood: 770-287-1000
Jamison Inn, Oakwood (Fairly New, across from Gainesville College): 770-533-9400

Below is a summary of my goals for still and video coverage of the NASA event for the participants of the RX-8 Club.

Still Photography:
1. Support Paddock Area - Candid images
2. Pit Row – Candid images
3. Turn 1 – Rushing up hill (infield)
4. Turn 1 – Looking back to turn 12 (infield)
5. Turn 5 – S’s in the background (infield)
6. Turn 6 – At dusk to get soft lighting from sun behind back, use flash (infield)
This is an awesome shot if you have reflective graphics, don’t really expect anyone to have that though.
7. Turn 7 – Sliding in apex (infield)
8. Turn 10B – 10A in bkgrnd (from sitting area)
9. Turn 12 – Cars together exiting apex in drift (before Pirelli Bridge)
10. Pirelli Bridge – Fast action with car sharp and bkgrnd blur
Smile big now… this is a cool shot just past the finish line.
11. Exiting track at tower (good close-up w/slow moving car)
12. Post race miscellaneous shots

Video:
1. Support Paddock Area – Introduction of drivers w/Interviews & showing mods to car.
2. Pit Row – Misc shots with cars still & exiting to track.
3. Turn 1 - Rushing up hill (infield)
4. Turn 1 – Looking back to turn 12
5. Turn 5 – S’s in the background (infield)
6. Turn 6 – Great fast closup shot of drivers in action (infield)
7. Turn 7 – Sliding in apex (infield)
8. Turn 10B – 10A (from sitting area)
9. Turn 12 – Racing downhill w/bridge in bkgrnd
10. Turn 12 - Exiting apex in drift

Video Post Production:
1. Composite - stills, my video, driver videos, logos, descriptive text or what ever needed.
2. Convert completed digital to CD: Quicktime/WMV multiple resolutions for viewing on the web and from CD.

Web site:
Dedicated to the event. To include stills and edited videos.

Damn! Am I going to do all that? :eek:

As I mentioned earlier, is it possible to get someone to have a second video camera showing the gages? It would be really nice for me to be able to sync a PIP of the tachometer with the standard view outside windshield and gear shifting?

I do have one concern; I’m thinking it may be a good idea to remove your tags and to keep any interviews on a screen name basis. What do you think? Is this a possible insurance risk or not?

Suggestions welcome!

YeeeeeeHaaaaaaa! We gonna have a blast! :D

daymnnnn! Im a gonna need a make up person to come with me for all this! Guess i best wear my good jeans an keep my dentures in!
jk but i will wash my car and try not to smile to big while on the track.
olddragger

WOW!!! You're bringing what camera and support crews for all this?????

I have space to dump the stuff and host if you need it until you get things set up on your end.

Are you going to try to come to Charlie's place (MazCare) the Friday before? If not for the photo part, just to meet and greet?

WOW!!! You're bringing what camera and support crews for all this????? As I mentioned in my earlier post... "my goals" :D . Aim high, right? Actually I should be able to pull most of this off due to the 2-day event and the number of times you guys go around the track. As a compromise because it is just I, you will not get one contiguous session from all around the track. It will be built over the entire weekend. This is just going to be a lot of fun and what ever I pull off I will just be happy to participate with you guys.

I have space to dump the stuff and host if you need it until you get things set up on your end.OK, let me see how things are going in the process. I'm not sure how much of my 500megs are left. I may need to clean up my space a little. Do you have any limitations or is this your web server?

Are you going to try to come to Charlie's place (MazCare) the Friday before? If not for the photo part, just to meet and greet?Love to. Got any details? PM me.

I assume all of you will be using digital video in your cars?

"OK, let me see how things are going in the process. I'm not sure how much of my 500megs are left. I may need to clean up my space a little. Do you have any limitations or is this your web server?"

Space is my limitation. I have about 2GB to play with still.....I need to clean up some things, but safely, 2GB.

"Love to. Got any details?"

http://www.mazcare.com - The Friday before - we usually start gathering around 2:00-3:00 if we're getting work done, around 5:00-6:00 if not- for technical inspections. Then go to dinner somewhere. Then we stay out and party and race all night and when we see the sun starting to come up, we then do breakfast. This time we are going to pinpoint "the" Wafflehouse we eat at before the event....:rolleyes:

"I assume all of you will be using digital video in your cars?"

I think so.

Look at this! Our group is growing. Last count if i am not mistaken is 9 nine 8's! We will make a good looking line coming down the front straight.
Question, where is everyone getting the grapics for their cars?
olddragger

Graphics??? okay...what did I miss??? What graphics?..this is news to me....is it required?

I would love to hear of an almost free suggestion for the graphics. Wouldn't it be cool if we had Racing Beat sponsor us by supplying magnetic numbers sporting their logo? Who wants to persue this?

I have magnetic numbers for my car during autocross events. Go to Michaels or any other hobby store and get some magnetic sheet to print on. I print out several things on this to put on my car. The numbers I have cut out, but I put some RX-8club graphics that I printed out to put on as well. Plus I have a couple of Panoz bumper stickers that I got from the last event that were like $2. I stuck these on the magnetic sheeting too. My car almost looks sponsored. :)

BTW, don't try to stick anything magnetic to the hood, trunk, or back doors. They are aluminum and aren't wont hold a magnet.

Hi Gang,
It's my first official post! I want to let you all know that Mazcare will absolutely hold an open house/tech inspection/bullsh.. session the Friday of the event. Also wanted to let those of you on the flywheel fence that I have ordered the ACT chromoly 9 lb flywheel to guinea pig on my own car. I should have it this week so if only I can remember how to put it on I'll have an opinion by next week. Stay tuned, Scott and I are looking forward to seeing how it compares to RB and Mazdaspeed. The price is very attractive at this point!
Still no word on eta on RB intakes but I'll keep on them.

Finally, I am probably going to come up and run on Saturday with you guys. I've not registered yet but it sounds pretty tasty. Nabil kind of stoked the fire the other day and driving the car last night didn't hurt either.

Can't wait to see you all again real soon. Be safe.

Charlie and the Mazcare Crew

Hi Gang,
It's my first official post! I want to let you all know that Mazcare will absolutely hold an open house/tech inspection/bullsh.. session the Friday of the event. Also wanted to let those of you on the flywheel fence that I have ordered the ACT chromoly 9 lb flywheel to guinea pig on my own car. I should have it this week so if only I can remember how to put it on I'll have an opinion by next week. Stay tuned, Scott and I are looking forward to seeing how it compares to RB and Mazdaspeed. The price is very attractive at this point!
Still no word on eta on RB intakes but I'll keep on them.

Finally, I am probably going to come up and run on Saturday with you guys. I've not registered yet but it sounds pretty tasty. Nabil kind of stoked the fire the other day and driving the car last night didn't hurt either.

Can't wait to see you all again real soon. Be safe.

Charlie and the Mazcare Crew
WooHoo!! Welcome!

Hey all!
Charlie about dang time.
Guess want guys? I have been talking with Charles Hill a lot lately(pm's) (you know the guy on the forum that was the 1st to install nos on a 8) and he is pretty sure he will be able to come also. He also said that if it works out he will have the greddy turbo system on AND the nos as well. He is very knowledgeable about the 8 etc. Hell he has been running a 14.1 1/4 mile time WITHOUT nos. Seeing his car and having the oppitunity to share the brotherhood will be great. I would love seeing an 8 blowing the doors off a co6 or a viper! Our little group continues to grow. Oh and by the way Silvereight Charles really would be interested in meeting you. I think RX turner mag was interested in doing and article on him and his nos setup.
can it get any better!?
errr silly me that could be ME getting the greddy turbo!
later guys I'll keep all informed
olddragger

Wow... this is turning into a NASA RX8-Fest. It's gonna be exciting.

olddragger, I PM'd you.

Hey all!
Charlie about dang time.
Guess want guys? I have been talking with Charles Hill a lot lately(pm's) (you know the guy on the forum that was the 1st to install nos on a 8) and he is pretty sure he will be able to come also. He also said that if it works out he will have the greddy turbo system on AND the nos as well. He is very knowledgeable about the 8 etc. Hell he has been running a 14.1 1/4 mile time WITHOUT nos. Seeing his car and having the oppitunity to share the brotherhood will be great. I would love seeing an 8 blowing the doors off a co6 or a viper! Our little group continues to grow. Oh and by the way Silvereight Charles really would be interested in meeting you. I think RX turner mag was interested in doing and article on him and his nos setup.
can it get any better!?
errr silly me that could be ME getting the greddy turbo!
later guys I'll keep all informed
olddragger
That's great. We'd love to have him join us for the weekend. It looks like we have 10 or 11 eights so far and two months to go......KEWL! Let's fill the group up!!:D

Hey gang,
I don't wan't to to be Debbie downer BUT, I paid my homeowners policy today and talked w/my State Farm agent (who is a Road Atlanta fan) about track event coverage. Basically he said that I would not be covered if the car were damaged on a race track. I didn't push it but has anyone else gotten clarification from their agent? To me it's like asking a cop if it's ok to speed but I really don't want to find out the hard way i.e. Porsche Boxter. Any feedback?

Charlie

hey all
Silver , i got you pm and will keep you updated as things are finalized.
Charlie, In reading about this in the sponsors sheets it seems they have never had a claim turned down. They class themselves as a high performance driving school. that a differant legal term than a being on a race track---defined as "racing". Would they not cover you if you where driving across the track to park? Legally you are not participating in a race. Hope that helps a little. Now as far as warrenty is concerned welll that I don't know!
olddragger

hey all
Silver , i got you pm and will keep you updated as things are finalized.
Charlie, In reading about this in the sponsors sheets it seems they have never had a claim turned down. They class themselves as a high performance driving school. that a differant legal term than a being on a race track---defined as "racing". Would they not cover you if you where driving across the track to park? Legally you are not participating in a race. Hope that helps a little. Now as far as warrenty is concerned welll that I don't know!
olddragger


As far as warrenty is converned... well, i just hope they don't wee any of the in-car videos we have.

Hey gang,
I don't wan't to to be Debbie downer BUT, I paid my homeowners policy today and talked w/my State Farm agent (who is a Road Atlanta fan) about track event coverage. Basically he said that I would not be covered if the car were damaged on a race track. I didn't push it but has anyone else gotten clarification from their agent? To me it's like asking a cop if it's ok to speed but I really don't want to find out the hard way i.e. Porsche Boxter. Any feedback?

Charlie Prudential (Meristar) considers it "school" , "drivers ed" etc. As long as the company is a legit and lic business/group that "teaches" (has and uses instructors), it is covered. That's how Panoz is seen and the NASA group as well. Now when one chooses to AutoX, that's a different story. My insurance company states "no way on autoX"

I thought my ears were burning so I checked out this thread and, lo and behold, O.D. is talkin' 'bout me. Actually, he invited me to read this thread and get the lowdown on the ATL event.

Denny has convinced me that Road ATL would be a great place to debut the turbo/nitrous set up and get some "seat time" in prep for the trip to Cali in the event I am selected for the USCC. Anyway, my plan is to drive down to meet all of you in the Atlanta area and hang out at night. If it isn't too pompous of me to think that some people may want rides in an 11-second RX-8 that can hang corners, stop on a dime, and still look stock, then I wouldn't mind sharing just how simple all of this modding stuff has been with those willing to discuss it.

Thanks to all for the invite and support.

Charles

Charles, I will not be driving at the NASA event but I do look forward to meeting you and getting some pics of your car.

I thought my ears were burning so I checked out this thread and, lo and behold, O.D. is talkin' 'bout me. Actually, he invited me to read this thread and get the lowdown on the ATL event.

Denny has convinced me that Road ATL would be a great place to debut the turbo/nitrous set up and get some "seat time" in prep for the trip to Cali in the event I am selected for the USCC. Anyway, my plan is to drive down to meet all of you in the Atlanta area and hang out at night. If it isn't too pompous of me to think that some people may want rides in an 11-second RX-8 that can hang corners, stop on a dime, and still look stock, then I wouldn't mind sharing just how simple all of this modding stuff has been with those willing to discuss it.

Thanks to all for the invite and support.

Charles I like the "wolf in sheeps clothing" thing. That's what I'm goin for (as $'s let me). It's a hell of a drive from Detroit (been there, done that...family in Madison Heights and Pontiac), but we'd love to have ya come. I can't wait to meet you and check out the ride.

Hey Lego and O.D. ... you guys staying by the track again? Rooms are filling up....where did you stay last time? We need to get room reservations made. Any interest in splitting a place for the two nights?

thats great news Man! The guys will confirm that you will have a memorable good time. With great video/pictures to prove it. I hope you like a neg camber downhill fast turn with a dip at the end! (its ok really) . Charlie, Charles is interetsed in speaking with you and I think you two will have a lot in common. I have been bragging about Mazcare to Mr Hill.
Guys, it seems that this gets better each time! I can't wait for the look on some of those co6/viper guys when a RX8 passes! Hey Silver I want a large picture of that! Sweet.
Remember also guys, this is a 2 day event so Saturday night needs developing.
oh by the way Charles H. do you want a video camera in your car? Some of the guys in our group have mounting a dig cam down to an art form. They are even thinking of a way to place a second camera for the gauges so the final production can have the gauges superimposed.
Its to long til MArch 19th
olddragger

Hey Phlash,
Room, Room? Ha!--- I'm sleeping in Charles Hill's car!
Seriously, it will not be a problem. With the number we have coming we can get a suite. Busted your budget on all those mods huh?! JK. There are plenty of places around that area,. and I have a sister in law that lives about 10 miles away in Gainesville.
Denny

I am seeing rates from $40.00 (per lego....I haven't seen that yet...) to 300.00 a night. I'm pretty open. I know, let's all show up at Charlie's doorstep with sleeping bags.....:D

As far as Saturday night???? Man oh man, so many possiblities.....Dave and Buster's, Taco Mac, Gordon Beirch, The Varsity (colon cleansing :eek: )....again, I'm open.

I don't mean to be a mooch or anything but in order for me to get all the stuff done that I need to in time for March, I need to be able to lean on as many of you as I can as soon as I arrive(not monetarily, just logistically). By that I mean letting me hang around like a younger sibling while I learn about the road racing gig. I can talk and drive all day on the drag strip but I am nothing more than a Luke Duke when it comes to courses. The only experience I have is running from the cops back when I was young. If you guys wouldn't mind saving a spot for me wherever we end up throughout the day it would make my trip easier to coordinate. Right now I have to focus on getting my hands on the next available GReddy kit ASAP so I have more time to install and tune the whole deal. Of course, I would be a prick not to allow a camera in the car. At least a few people would be interested in hearing an RX-8 at 9,500 rpm with a turbo and nitrous.

So where do I go to secure a spot in all of this mayhem?

Thanks for your patience.

CRH

How about the Chinese restaurant Paul Newman always went to when he raced at RA, the Golden Buda? (I think that’s the name)

(My car goes into paint today! :D)

FYI - When I email RB with a sway install question, I asked where the intake stood at this point. This was Jims answer:

The intake is getting REALLY close to being completed.
There are so many steps and processes involved with the casting, machining, drilling, and plating process for all the individual components, and a "hiccup" by any one of the vendors causes a big headache. We have had to overcome a couple flaky vendors during this production run, but everything is coming along nicely.

The cost figures look better than they were a couple months ago, and although this unit includes MUCH more than the simple tube/filter units that are available, the price will still be competitive.


Best regards,

Jim Langer
Racing Beat, Inc.
714-779-8677
www.racingbeat.com

Nabil, it's not that I am lacking confidence it's just that I need to focus on the turbo install and tune right now. To know that my "homies" have my back will help me to just jump into the event without concern as opposed to having to pore over the details. If you guys got the details covered then I'll make sure I represent well.

My car is not necessarily set up for drag racing. If it were I wouldn't have the traction problems that I do. It's really just a stock RX-8 with a bunch of crazy bolt-on stuff that happens to work well. The cooling and oiling systems are over-engineered so I am sure I can rag on this car all day and it will be fine.

I figure with just the turbo the car will run very close to the way it does with the nitrous, which is to say mid to high 12's. Adding the nitrous should take it to the high 11's. The nitrous/turbo combo is for the street/drag strip and the turbo alone for the course. Most courses don't allow the use of nitrous oxide.

CRH

Charles,
Do not worry about the logistic's. If you think enough of us and our event to drive as far as you have too, and are willing to share your knowledge about how you have worked on your car then thats the least we can do. Just register for the event per guides on this thread and show up. Your'e covered dude.
Running a road course in the 8 is like bringing it home. These events are NOT races. (Well sometimes it can kinda turns into a small one.) They are very safe and controlled(NOT speed limited). I know you like learning and believe me you are going to learn a lot. apex's, braking points, squaring off a turn, exits speeds, entry speeds, importance of the cool off lap, tire pressures, how smoothness equals speed ,happy tire sounds, rebel yells,how NOT to turn on your windshield wipers while turning, etc,etc.
Oh and by the way, a little hint, run with your tcs/dsc ON. Believe it or not the car is smoother and faster that way. Plus it can really save your butt.
later
Denny

When I joined NASA, I turned in my choice of numbers. Nabil, do you know when they'll let you know what number to use? I'd hate to spend money on magnetic numbers and then find out another senior NASA member has it.
blinker usage? isn't that for the slow cars:)

Tim

Okey Dokey, I just signed up for the event! I'm stoked now! I may bring the racig slicks to the event once I learn to use them. With the DCS on, they are great. They only slipped when I put on too much power during a turn. Once the tires are hot, they stick like glue, so I'd like to see what they do, exp on turn 7.

The $40 motel was the Scottish Inn. Ask them for the corporate rate and bring a badge.

FYI - When I email RB with a sway install question, I asked where the intake stood at this point. This was Jims answer:

The intake is getting REALLY close to being completed.
There are so many steps and processes involved with the casting, machining, drilling, and plating process for all the individual components, and a "hiccup" by any one of the vendors causes a big headache. We have had to overcome a couple flaky vendors during this production run, but everything is coming along nicely.

The cost figures look better than they were a couple months ago, and although this unit includes MUCH more than the simple tube/filter units that are available, the price will still be competitive.


Best regards,

Jim Langer
Racing Beat, Inc.
714-779-8677
www.racingbeat.com


Phlash,

How easy was the RB Sway install? I'm thinking of getting the front bar pretty soon. I'll put it in myself.

The $40 motel was the Scottish Inn. Ask them for the corporate rate and bring a badge. What kinda Badge?


The rear sway is a breeze, the front one takes some wiggle work (okay, okay, a LOT of wiggle if you do it alone-it makes up for the rear being so easy), but despite the RB instructions, can be done with one person. I have the end links as well.

a company badge that identifies you and the company I'd guess.

Tim

Brian seems to be a very good photographer. Many of his angles are very similar to what I have planned. Seem to be a couple angles I'm not familiar with due to not having a photo pass before. Yea, those esses do look good. Thanks for sharing the link.

Attached are a few images showing what you can expect from my camera. Wish you guys had some reflective graphics like the Audi! :D

okay, my father's in......so, he and I will be splitting a room for the two nights. The Scottish Inn sounds great. Not sure if they'll take my company for a corporate rate, but, we'll try. He'll have a blast. He's bringing a helmet, not sure about the "track tour" thing, but by gawd, he's ready and stoaked about going......

Lego, OD...is it the scottish inn on Oakwood Road?

I have been a wreck all weekend. March 19th is soooo far away. Don't know what to do with myself. If it wasn't so cold, a run up to to the North Ga mountains would have been fun. Maybe next weekend. Depends on the weather.

Phlash - is your dad gonna drive a car too or is he spectating?

I have been playing my video games driving around Road Atlanta in a 3 series BMW European Touring Championship car. If anyone here is into PC racing simulations I have the perfect setup. It is the "EA Sports F1Challenge '99-'02". There are many mods and add on tracks for the game including the 2003 European Touring Car Championship and an ALMS mod with all 4 leMans classes. I use a Logitech force feedback wheel and the gameplay is awesome. Here are a few screen shots to whet your appetite for March 19th (as if you arn't already salivating).

And a few more screenshots, this time from Sports Car Challenge which is an ALMS mod for the F1 game. The car is the #66 Racer's Group Porsche.

Yeah I am kinda bored...

I have been playing my video games driving around Road Atlanta in a 3 series BMW European Touring Championship car. If anyone here is into PC racing simulations I have the perfect setup. It is the "EA Sports F1Challenge '99-'02". There are many mods and add on tracks for the game including the 2003 European Touring Car Championship and an ALMS mod with all 4 leMans classes. I use a Logitech force feedback wheel and the gameplay is awesome. Here are a few screen shots to whet your appetite for March 19th (as if you arn't already salivating).Wow, that's amazingly accurate, minus modifications since the 02 season. Is there an updated version? I assume this is PC?

Phlash - is your dad gonna drive a car too or is he spectating?

He is going for the good times and to spectate. So, he may be available on the sidelines to help with or watch over whatever.....:)

Wow, that's amazingly accurate, minus modifications since the 02 season. Is there an updated version? I assume this is PC?

Yeah - it is PC. As for modifications to the track since 2002 I think that was the seating area opposite 10A/10B. Also last year they added the loop in that area for the Drift Atlanta event. Neither of those are reflected in the game. I am hoping someone creates a modification showing the Grand Am cup so there is the #70 SpeedSource RX8. I can only hope and wait...

besides the in car footage from various members personal cameras and pictures from various places around the track, is anyone doing any independent video footage as well?

Tim

besides the in car footage from various members personal cameras and pictures from various places around the track, is anyone doing any independent video footage as well?Yep, I will be shooting with a Canon XL1. I posted a message earlier in this thread of my goals for shooting you guys on the track and off. But any footage anyone shoots can be used in post production. The more footage the better.

I am hoping someone creates a modification showing the Grand Am cup so there is the #70 SpeedSource RX8.#70 ROCKS! That will be it for me. I will have to get a PC.

What is wrong? It is almost 1pm and there are no posts yet today? Whats up y'all :confused:

What is wrong? It is almost 1pm and there are no posts yet today? Whats up y'all :confused: sorry....daydreaming about my TEIN coilcover install.......I have the MS front and rear strut bars done and the RB sways as well now......what a sweet upgrade.....third time at RA but whole new setup.....geez, gonna have to learn all over again.......that breaks my heart.....:D


I have questions.......

Are the magnetic numbers required? I have not been assigned a number yet? When one does get a number, is it your number forever or until you give it up?

Anybody else besides my father and I staying near RA?

Saturday night plans?? Heck, Friday night dinner plans after Charlie's?

Which Waffle House we going to agree on? I find no mention of lunch being part of the deal with NASA. Are we on our own? Do we eat there at RA or go out? How much "lunch time" do we have?

Hey Phlash - congrats on the suspension bits. Sounds like you have the tricked out ride! Should be kick ass around the circuit. My car is at the dealership today getting some miscellaneous dash rattles fixed. Hope to pick it up in a few hours.

I don't know when we'll find out about our numbers. I am going to take Lego's advice and see if I can find something at Michael's that I can print out on my computer and make myself. I am thinking some kind of adhesive backed vinyl or magnetic sheets.


Has anyone bled or flushed their brakes yet? I think I will at least bleed my brakes but am leaning towards buying some ATE Super Blue Racing Dot 4 brake fluid and doing a flush. It would be a good opportunity to do the braided brake and clutch lines too. The more I think about it, the more I lean towards making that my mod for this track day. Each track day gets a new mod! Hopefully one will be a RB intake.

Scott at Mazcare states the braided brake lines ROCK! He did them on his ride and states that it gives the brakes some "meat". I know it did on the clutch line when I did it. RX7.com has some great pricing on them. I'll tell ya, I was really surprised at the brake feel difference that the MS front strutbar brake brace made.....Charlie had told me about it, but I guess it really didn't register until I made the change and really got on the brakes.....it's pretty impressive.

Misc dash rattle huh?? I'm curious as to what they do about them. Keep us posted.

Dash rattles are gone! Happy again :)

Dash rattles are gone! Happy again :)
They state what they did?

Hey Phlash,
Lets see ,you have
1-ms strut bars(does help braking as it has a master cylender brace on it and if you watch the mc while someone is braking hard you can see it move!
2-rb sway bars/springs
3-ms flywheel
4-coilovers
5-cat back rb of course
6-green filter
7-kumho tires
and various other cosmetic's
damn dude you have a sponser or what?!
Now all you need is 4 wheel drive~! JK man.
Question-- I have been thinking about the stut bars, I know about the brake feel but what about the streering. Did you really notice any differance?
another question-- the flywheel----can you really tell the differance by the seat of your pants? Or does it just seem to rev faster? How much does Charlie charge to install that thing? Too me it's a lot of money if there is only a little differance. If it's a big differance then maybe.
Hell I have to keep up with you people.
yea, i will be staying somewhere near the track but its too soon to tell exactly where.
Oh the squeaks in the dash are usually part of the top directional vent on the dash. The cover just pops off with a little prying and then to can get to what is causing the noise.
later guys
Denny

Hey Phlash,
Lets see ,you have

1-ms strut bars(does help braking as it has a master cylender brace on it and if you watch the mc while someone is braking hard you can see it move!

Yeah, it's pretty wild to watch....braking hard has some meat feel.

2-rb sway bars/springs

Just the sways. The TEIN coilcovers have springs. I got a amazing deal from someone parting their car out before they sell it.

3-ms flywheel

See #2

4-coilovers

These I have wanted a long time...and again got a good deal.

5-cat back rb of course

See #4

6-green filter

Easy/cheap drop in......ebay

7-kumho tires

Good lord, but what I went through to settle on these.....

and various other cosmetic's
damn dude you have a sponser or what?

Now all you need is 4 wheel drive~! JK man.

Question-- I have been thinking about the stut bars, I know about the brake feel but what about the streering. Did you really notice any differance?

I had the CP racing bar for a while, so on the steering feel, yes at first...now I forget what it was like before. The brake brace made the big difference I can feel now.

another question-- the flywheel----can you really tell the differance by the seat of your pants? Or does it just seem to rev faster?
Both....above 4500rpms, it awakes!

How much does Charlie charge to install that thing?
Have to ask Charlie on that.....

Too me it's a lot of money if there is only a little differance. If it's a big differance then maybe.

You'll have to drive mine with the MS unit and Charlie's with the ACT unit (2/3 the weight of the MS unit). You'll see.....an option would be to wait until clutch replacement time to do it.

Hell I have to keep up with you people.
yea, i will be staying somewhere near the track but its too soon to tell exactly where.
Oh the squeaks in the dash are usually part of the top directional vent on the dash. The cover just pops off with a little prying and then to can get to what is causing the noise.
later guys
Denny Hope that helps

I stopped by Mazcare yesterday and saw Charlie's ACT flywheel. It weighs 13lbs 11.25oz. That is a bit lighter than the RB flywheel. He plans on installing it this week in his car so we'll find out how it feels directly from him since he has also installed and driven the RX8 stock, with MS, and with RB flywheels.

Is that with the counterweight or without? I weighed my stock FD flywheel and thought, damn, I'm going to save about 10 lbs with my 11 lbs M2 flywheel. It was 11 alright, then throw on the counterweight and your up to 15. I must admit, it was a great improvement on the butt dyno. Could tell it better than I could my dp and cat-back.

Tim

:eek: Got all my TEIN Flex and EDFC stuff today!!!!:D

It's just sitting here on the floor of my office...taunting me......:rolleyes:

Is that with the counterweight or without? I weighed my stock FD flywheel and thought, damn, I'm going to save about 10 lbs with my 11 lbs M2 flywheel. It was 11 alright, then throw on the counterweight and your up to 15. I must admit, it was a great improvement on the butt dyno. Could tell it better than I could my dp and cat-back.

Tim

This was with the counterweight.

Take your stinkin' Tein EDFC. I've got a turbo and nitrous :p

CRH

Take your stinkin' Tein EDFC. I've got a turbo and nitrous :p

CRH
yea, yea....one day we'll all grow up and have toys just like you.......:D

can't wait to see your ride......:eek:

Got all of yall beat----I have hanging dice from the mirror! And a bobble head Jesus on the dash!
Denny

you'll have to lose those before you hit the track, so your screwed :)

Tim

okay, my father's in......so, he and I will be splitting a room for the two nights. The Scottish Inn sounds great. Not sure if they'll take my company for a corporate rate, but, we'll try. He'll have a blast. He's bringing a helmet, not sure about the "track tour" thing, but by gawd, he's ready and stoaked about going......

Lego, OD...is it the scottish inn on Oakwood Road?


Yes, here's the info:

Scottish Inn
770 531 9929
800 251 1962
$41.99
85N Exit 113 985
exit 16 left 2nd right, another left

I've been away for the last 5 days on a Cruise with Disney Cruise Line. Let me tell you it was wonderful. I forgot what day it was while I was napping in the sun. I would recommend it to anyone.

I live five minutes below Atlanta Raceway, I'll try to make it. I'm buying a new '04 w/ the sport package in about two hours.

Dang Tim, That just hurt! I didnt think about that! lol.
Welcome aboard GRT8 hope you can make it.Believe me you will appreciate the 8 much more once you have been on the track with it.
olddragger(Denny)

You should get one of those hula girls and tell them it's a Cornering G measuring device.

I live five minutes below Atlanta Raceway, I'll try to make it. I'm buying a new '04 w/ the sport package in about two hours.
SWEET!!! We'd love to have you aboard!

Phlash did you direct-order your cooler screens from R.B.?

CRH

Phlash did you direct-order your cooler screens from R.B.?

CRH
Yes sir. They had some deal at the time of no shipping cost. I had them in two days......their service rocks! I can't wait for their intake......

Just drove my brand new nordic green RX8 back to work. AWESOME ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just drove my brand new nordic green RX8 back to work. AWESOME ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congrats! Welcome to the cult!

I've already called my wife a few times just to tell her thanks for letting me get it. I admit it, I'm whipped by my wife and my RX8...

Lego
Hula girl g force measuring device? Hmmm ---only you Lego! (I do like that thought.)
GRT8 -- a Nordic green ,great color. You will be the third green there man!
Now break it in right. Go ahead and register. You dont need anything else
olddragger(Denny)

Just drove my brand new nordic green RX8 back to work. AWESOME ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello and welcome to the most passionate car owners group around! We would love to have you join us at Road Atlanta in March. Go to Racing Beat's website and folow their break in procedure. If you drive enough you will be well broken in by March 19th.

Look forward to meeting you!

Nabil

What's the count on entries now?

double digits?
Denny

What's the count on entries now?

I've lost count but I don't think GRT8 is signed up. Please prove me wrong GRT8. If and when you decide to come out with us, you will really dismiss away any kind of buyers remorse that may develop after reading all the stupid mileage and torque and dyno horsepower threads on this forum. This car feels great on the street as you have already discovered and feels right at home on a road course hanging with STIs, EVOs, Mustangs, Boxsters, and the occaisonal C5.

double digits?
Denny

Here is what I gather from the posts:

Nabil
Phlash69
Pam
Tim Benton
Olddragger
Rxeightr
Legokcen
KurtBob
Charles R Hill
Marietta8 - still on the fence. Someone call him and pull him on over to the dark side with us!
GRT8 - if he signs up would make 11 on track (12 total). Buy your wife some flowers and get clearance :D
SilverEight - official journalist amd videographer

GRT8 would make 11 on track (12 total)

Howdy gang,
As promised I am the guinea pig of a few odds and ends and the bottom line is the flywheel that I spoke of is the best I've installed so far! The response is great as expected, the balance is perfect (wasn't sure), driveability is unaffected, and the price is better than anything else. Denny, I left you a voice mail about it but just order it and we'll put it on for you.

Still no real definate word on the RB intakes (hurry up and wait)

Y'all have a safe weekend and I'll speak to you soon.

Charlie

Hey guys I'm going to try and make it to this. I did the panoz 3 day school up there last summer and had a ball. I guess that puts me in the 2nd group class or w/e. I just got my jic coilovers on a month ago so I cant wait to put them to the test on the track and be able to play with the dampering and get some real feedback!

Hey guys I'm going to try and make it to this. I did the panoz 3 day school up there last summer and had a ball. I guess that puts me in the 2nd group class or w/e. I just got my jic coilovers on a month ago so I cant wait to put them to the test on the track and be able to play with the dampering and get some real feedback!

Welcome aboard rotaryred!

Here is the new participant list...

Nabil
Phlash69
Pam
Tim Benton
Olddragger
Rxeightr
Legokcen
KurtBob
Charles R Hill
Rotaryred
Marietta8 - still on the fence.
GRT8 - if he signs up would make 12 on track (13 total).
SilverEight - official journalist amd videographer

Since 13 is unlucky we need a few more...

Thanks for the warm welcome. Just got home from dinner and I can't believe how GREAT my 8 is. Even though, I really dug my 6, there's no substitution for RWD. What's going on at Road Atlanta in March? :confused:

Since 13 is unlucky we need a few more...TAKE ME OFF THE LIST until we get one more person. :eek:

Thanks for the warm welcome. Just got home from dinner and I can't believe how GREAT my 8 is. Even though, I really dug my 6, there's no substitution for RWD. What's going on at Road Atlanta in March? :confused:

Look at the very first post in this thread.

Sounds fun, but not sure if I can afford it right now. My children's re-enrollment fees for Christian school are due in February, $1500...OUCH!!! :(

Charlie,
Thats great news man. I will call you Monday and work out the logistic's of this car character changing mod . I have spoke with some other forums members and have some interesting numbers concerning the flywheel(power wise). Man the numbers are growing! I think we may open a few eyes! And Charlie by the way you have to come man!
Olddragger (Denny)

Just drove my brand new nordic green RX8 back to work. AWESOME ride!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats! Glad to see another green 8. It really is a wonderful color. Hope to see you at NASA. Enjoy the car, it's a blast.

It'll be interesting to see how we all do since everyone has differently modded cars. I still think that I'm the barrier still in this car's performance. I'm going to work on myself a little more before dropping some coin to make it faster. I have a feeling I'm going to passed a lot during the March event.
I have decided I'm taking the racing tires though. I'm curious to see how they will do at high speed. Definitely keeping DCS on the WHOLE time.

Lego, did you ever make any connections about writing an article? Just wondering. Publishing is not required but it would be really nice to see such a huge qty of 8's represented in a magazine. My main interest is just having a great time and putting together a great package for us to enjoy and show off.

Anyone know if this is a spectator event or is it closed to participants, family and friends like the last event?

Later this weekend I will be making the financial commitment and actually signing up for this thing. Even if the turbo install doesn't go well I will be attending.

CRH

Thats great news Ray, and as previously stated, just register and show up,dont be concerned about a place to stay etc. Later, as the day gets closer we will make a more detailed plan about when and where to met up etc. Point of possible interest for you.There is 104 leaded octane gas is available at Road Atlanta.Just a thought, but that may help you try that 75 shot without having to adjust the timing? (if the turbo etc doesnt work out)
To the best of my knowledge this has the making of the largest gathering of rx8's on a track. All you business minded people, what do you think about some sponsership possibilities? Since this is legally listed as a high performance driving school(not a race hehe) do you think there may be some interest in a low cost sponsership from a local Madaspeed dealership or such?
Do we want to go there?
Lego good point about the mod between the steering wheel and the seat. I finally have gotten a little more comfortable with turn 12. Note: "little". I now I have to fine the sweet spot on turn 1 in 4th gear instead of 3nd. I just get a little excited approaching a turn at 110mph and my entry speed is not what the car is capable off! Instead it is in the range of my feelings of mortality. I usually hear myself saying something like "Dayyymmnn! oh my GOD, oh my GOD, oh my GODDD---!" on both turn 12 and entry into turn 1. When the turn is complete I then hear myself saying "YeeeeeHaaaa! " and "What is that funny smell?"
March 19th is to far away.
Denny

Lego, did you ever make any connections about writing an article? Just wondering. Publishing is not required but it would be really nice to see such a huge qty of 8's represented in a magazine. My main interest is just having a great time and putting together a great package for us to enjoy and show off.

Anyone know if this is a spectator event or is it closed to participants, family and friends like the last event?

I'll be talking to someone this week. I'll let you know. I've been out of town for the past week, so I'm getting caught up. I should be able to let you know soon.

"What is that funny smell?"


I hope that is coming from the brakes and not your pants. :)

hmmmmm, didn't charlie state earlier that he was coming? Nabil, do you know something different?

Greetings Mazda people! I am keeping my butt indoors today along with my RX8. My driveway is a sheet of ice. Hope all of you are doing well.

Charlie posted that his insurance doesn't cover him on track so I took that to mean he may not go. But then again, I am not sure. Work on him y'all. He did say we are definatly doing the open house at Mazcare on Friday. I will probably schedule any routine maintenance earlier that week to allow the out of towners more opportunity to get their cars up on the rack there for tech and the like.

As far as I know, the NASA weekends are open to spectators. Non-NASA members pay a nominal fee (I think it was $5).

I agree with Lego on the limiting factor being the driver rather than the car. More power would help out on the straights but the biggest factor is corner exit. If you figure your corner exit is 5mph faster, you can enter the braking zone +5mph faster as well giving quite an advantage. How much extra hp do you need to build up an extra 5mph? The guy driving the silver Turbo 911 was hitting 135mph into the braking zone for 10A according to a conversation I had with him. I was at 122-125. So better exit from turn 7 may put me at 130ish on the back straight. Additionally, in watching some of my in-car video from December, my best laps were around 2 minutes flat. I researched the NASA site to see results for the races at the last event at Road Atlanta and believe it or not, if I can shave off 5 seconds, I would have been able to hang with seasoned racers in the small bore categories and to be not too far behind some large bore guys. I am sure that my skills can be increased to a point that shaving 10 seconds off is possible without changing the car.

GRT8 - did you wake up this morning and go into your garage to just look at your car? I still do that sometimes. Please keep in touch with us via this thread and at least join us for the open house at Mazcare on March 18th. You can also come out and spectate if you are interested. I am sure we would all like to at least meet you.

Did anyone make a posting on RX7Club.com for this event?

Another idea... We should get some T-shirts made up. I figure we can get some logos on them from the RX8Club.com, Racing Beat, Tein, RX8Store, Mazcare etc. Does anyone want to volunteer to contact those folks to see if they would kick in a few bucks to defray the cost?

This has been a long post... sorry :D

Nabil

GRT8 - did you wake up this morning and go into your garage to just look at your car? I still do that sometimes. Please keep in touch with us via this thread and at least join us for the open house at Mazcare on March 18th. You can also come out and spectate if you are interested. I am sure we would all like to at least meet you.

Yeah, I've been looking at'er all day except I don't have a garage. She's all iced over outside just waiting for some sunshine. I had my oil changed at Mazcare two weeks ago in my 6 and talked w/ Charlie for a while.

In fact, I called him to let him know I got the 8 and had a few break-in questions for him.

She's all iced over outside just waiting for some sunshine.Yep, it sure is. We lost power about an hour ago. I had to crank my generator. Thank you Honda!

as far as coverage magazine-wise, someone can get together with the pictures and write a narrative and send it to RX-Tuner magazine. Can't hurt and I always like reading articles about rotaries at the track.
I would have thought the 911 would have hit a a faster speed in the back straight.

I'll post something on the rx7club.com site as well. Need to get them registered before they start to fill up 1 and 2.

Tim

Welcome aboard rotaryred!

Here is the new participant list...

Nabil
Phlash69
Pam
Tim Benton
Olddragger
Rxeightr
Legokcen
KurtBob
Charles R Hill
Rotaryred
Marietta8 - still on the fence.
GRT8 - if he signs up would make 12 on track (13 total).
SilverEight - official journalist amd videographer

Since 13 is unlucky we need a few more...

Hey gang,

I just wanted to let you know that I'm not signed up yet, and might not. March is beginning to look really busy for my family, and something's got to give. I plan on doing Talladega on March 26th, with the Peachtree Miata club. My wife has let me know that she will probably be working weekends in March (meaning kid duty for me). On top of all that, I just found out that the first Solo 2 Divisional event is the same weekend as the NASA event. Yikes! :confused:

as far as coverage magazine-wise, someone can get together with the pictures and write a narrative and send it to RX-Tuner magazine. Can't hurt and I always like reading articles about rotaries at the track.
I would have thought the 911 would have hit a a faster speed in the back straight.

I'll post something on the rx7club.com site as well. Need to get them registered before they start to fill up 1 and 2.

Tim


I've got a contact for this. I'll talk to them this week.

legocken...

Just viewed your profile. Were you in the Navy by chance? I'm just asking because you're a chemical engineer. Didn't know if you were a "nuke" in the nav.

Update of who is going to be joining us...

Nabil
Phlash69
Pam
Tim Benton
Olddragger
Rxeightr
Legokcen
Charles R Hill
Rotaryred
Marietta8 - still on the fence.
SilverEight - official journalist and videographer

Even though the list is slightly trimmed I am very encouraged by this strong showing of RX8s for this driving event.

Schecules do have a way of limiting your fun KurtBob. I do hope things can be worked out. If not then next time! We have almost 2 mos to go dudes! More will come. Put the word out everyone!
Ok, happenings Saturday night? Spot to cruise? Do the "wild bunch" thing at a local eatery? Com'on guys/Gal lets make this good. Those of you that know ATlanta area better than I--suggestions? The Varsity?
Are we going to rent a transponder forthe group?
Hey Nabil does a regular motorcycle helmet pass inspection?
Olddragger(Denny)

From reading on NASA's website, for HPDE, you need a Snell rated helmet 95 or better. M95 or M2000 are acceptable. So, check the rating on the helmet as it must have a sticker or something to indicate it's rating. M95, M2000, SA95, or SA2000 seem to be OK. If in doubt, check the NASA website and post on teh forum there.
Nabil

Hey guys, just found this on the net. It should get you in the mood for March!

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/rollover.mpg

Just kidding. It is humbling... and scary.

You could see the rear end swinging out a bit right before the tires broke loose. Yikes!! It also didn't look like he was too upset until his roof caved and windshield broke. I officially withdraw my application. Just kidding.

CRH

Hey guys, just found this on the net. It should get you in the mood for March!

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/rollover.mpg

Just kidding. It is humbling... and scary.

I can only get the first 11 seconds :(

Charles,
Don't worry we don't turn over we have concrete walls that keep that from happening.
lol
olddragger(Denny)

I can only get the first 11 seconds :(Nabil, try this one. I downloaded it and put it on my server.

http://www.donyaun.com/movies/rollover.mpg

Guys ,
In looking at the video, his approach/entrance speed was too fast. Also notice that he continued to try and correct the skid after he had left the track. This causes the outside of the tires to dig in the soft dirt and bingo--- turn over time! Correct course of action AFTER you have left the track onto soft dirt and you dont have any control is---- hands off the wheel. Easy to say hard to do. Too bad he wouldn even have hit the wall.
What kind of car was that?
olddragger

Nabil, try this one. I downloaded it and put it on my server.

http://www.donyaun.com/movies/rollover.mpg

Thanks! That ruined his day. Limerock is a cool circuit though. I have driven on it (virtually of course).
I just watched the Hans Stuck in an M3 GTR around the Nordeschliefe video. That is cool. He was hauling some serious @$$.

Thanks! That ruined his day. Limerock is a cool circuit though. I have driven on it (virtually of course).
I just watched the Hans Stuck in an M3 GTR around the Nordeschliefe video. That is cool. He was hauling some serious @$$.


I just downloaded that too!

Hey guys, just found this on the net. It should get you in the mood for March!

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/rollover.mpg

Just kidding. It is humbling... and scary.
okay...that would suck.......:eek:

Hey ,
Just spoke with Charlie at Mazcare today. He said he is coming on Saturday. He is off next week and chasing other car nuts in Florida somewhere(he told me the details but I forgot).
Anyway , he installed the act prolite flywheel and the rx 7 automatic counterweight and said it ran perfect. Total weight a tad over 13lbs. That is with bolts ,counterweight and flywheel. Charlie highly recommends the flywheel. Now part of the beauty of this set up is the flywheel is only $250. The counterweight he gets locally for a little over $50. Sum $300! Thats not installed of course. Still that is a real good price for a light flywheel! He also said the driveabilty is great--no problems.
olddragger

Can anyone tell what kind of car that guy was driving in the rollover?

Tim

Can anyone tell what kind of car that guy was driving in the rollover?

Tim

I think it was an older 911

Can anyone tell what kind of car that guy was driving in the rollover?

TimThat would be a................

wrecked car............:D


Sorry....couldn't resist...


looks like an 944 maybe........I'd swear the steering wheel has Porsche stamped in the middle of it....maybe? maybe not......heck that could be a "u" I'm seeing....a subaru something...?????:confused:

I'll tell you guys what... I'll bring my tools and jacks and we can all get together and install a load of flywheels while at the track. If not then, we could do them at night in the hotel lot and not spill a drop of trans fluid. I have spent so much time under and around this car that even flywheel swaps are a cinch. We could use the A/V gear to document all of it while laying on our backs. Who's game? I can even get the part numbers for the counter, T/O, and input bearings.

CRH

CRH

I'll tell you guys what... I'll bring my tools and jacks and we can all get together and install a load of flywheels while at the track. If not then, we could do them at night in the hotel lot and not spill a drop of trans fluid. I have spent so much time under and around this car that even flywheel swaps are a cinch. We could use the A/V gear to document all of it while laying on our backs. Who's game? I can even get the part numbers for the counter, T/O, and input bearings.

CRH

CRH
LOL!! You bet!! I bring the grill and the keg and we'll make a tailgate party out of this in the hotel parking lot! WooHoo!

I'll bring my tools and jacks and we can all get together and install a load of flywheels while at the track. If not then, we could do them at night in the hotel lot and not spill a drop of trans fluid.

I'm game to get mine installed -- just wish this was a serious possibility.

Guys,
Hey, he may be serious! Hell, we all probaly have jacks, ramps and stands. The only thing I can think off that I dont have is that 60mm wrench they say you need to get the flywheel off!
Hey silvereight--you listening? Wouldn't that make a heck of a video story?! If it is my car we hold the keg til it's finished! I would hate to be standing next to my car on the stands and hear a "uhoh" from someone under my car!
Denny

you bastards are getting to me:) On the way back from some training I had near the airport, I swung in the parking lot of Team Mazda on Thorton Rd. and looked at the 8's they had on the lot. I've test drove one back when they came out, the wife did too...damn it, now i want one. Only down side would be the fact that I'd have to trade in either the 89 TII or 91 coupe (since the 93 isn't going anywhere).
The fit and finish on the 8 is just fantastic, how's it holding up?

Tim

you bastards are getting to me:) On the way back from some training I had near the airport, I swung in the parking lot of Team Mazda on Thorton Rd. and looked at the 8's they had on the lot. I've test drove one back when they came out, the wife did too...damn it, now i want one. Only down side would be the fact that I'd have to trade in either the 89 TII or 91 coupe (since the 93 isn't going anywhere).
The fit and finish on the 8 is just fantastic, how's it holding up?

Tim
Use the force Luke..........:eek:

GRT8,

You got your car from David at Team Mazda right? When I was there tonight (2/1/05) he said someone had just traded in his 6 for a nordic green 8 in the past week or so. BTW, if this has been brought up somewhere else on the 8 forum, don't club me to death, but I did notice Mazda did the same thing with the 8 that they did with the FD. First year model had a yellow paint scheme, but the 2nd year it was replaced with a white. The white looks beautiful. I wonder if I can trade the wife in instead of one of the 7's :) I'd probable come out better in the long haul!

The only thing I didn't like was the fact David, who enjoyed talking about the 8 and all the cool things it had to offer, didn't know much about the ECU flashes and which ones would be in the ecu for the 2005 models or the 2004 models they still had on the lot.

Tim

Hey silvereight--you listening? Wouldn't that make a heck of a video story?!Yea, I can see it now, "How many FPH's did y'all get last night?" Oh man, we got 4 Flywheels Per Hour till we sent Olddragger after more beer!" :D

Tim: I just sent you a PM.

Sam

I am serious about the flywheel swaps. The only tool I don't have, which I could easily purchase beforehand, is the pilot bearing puller. Every other tool I have in my box(even the big socket and 3/4" drive breaker bar) and can bring with me except for a large floor jack. Remember, I did my own fly and clutch in my driveway, on my back, and in the rain. If we got 4 or 5 guys helping out we could knock each one out in less than 2 hours. Get the keg and 'que involved, it may take a little longer. That would be a cool photostory for RX Tuner, wouldn't it? Kick the idea around and make sure each one of us would still have enough track time.

CRH

Hey y'all (typing from cold Boston this morning). I am having withdrawals as I can't get online much when attending meetings. Catching up on this thread... This is a very interesting proposal from Mr CRH.

Tim - go for it. Trade/sell/barter - whatever it takes brother!

Got to go. Tallk amoungs yourselves. I'll give you a topic... The RX8 is both a road course monster and a drag car - discuss.

Would a flywheel benefit me any if I have no other mods? Would it affect the warranty or insurance?

A light fly will benefit slightly. The light weight makes your drivetrain more efficient. If you aren't planning other upgrades anytime soon a fly may not be a priority. On the other hand if you wanna start a party in the parking lot and take advantage of the free labor offer.....

CRH

Have us out of towners agreed on a hotel yet? It would be kinda lame having to run down the street to borrow a wrench, only to find you grabbed the wrong size.......

Ok, I have almost 700 miles now and yesterday I shifted at 8k RPM up to 4th gear. This car is FAST!!!!! Very deceiving though, it makes hardly any sound and no vibration. Who cares about torque when you have this AMAZiNG Renesis that Mazda's engineered.

I am serious about the flywheel swaps. The only tool I don't have, which I could easily purchase beforehand, is the pilot bearing puller. Every other tool I have in my box(even the big socket and 3/4" drive breaker bar) and can bring with me except for a large floor jack. Remember, I did my own fly and clutch in my driveway, on my back, and in the rain. If we got 4 or 5 guys helping out we could knock each one out in less than 2 hours. Get the keg and 'que involved, it may take a little longer. That would be a cool photostory for RX Tuner, wouldn't it? Kick the idea around and make sure each one of us would still have enough track time.

CRH

You got me bought in. I'll bring the large floor jack. For Autocrosses, I put 4 race tires in the back seats and the jack in the truck. I'll have it with me.

In a few more miles you'll be able to run it all the way up to 9K. When you do that you'll be even further amazed because you'll be staying in the power band the whole time. Like you said, the speed of the car is somewhat deceiving. That's for two reasons. One, as you know, Mazda has done a great job of isolating the drivetrain from the car so we don't feel all of the NVH like in so many other cars. Second, the Renesis has a very flat torque curve and that results in smooth acceleration. I had a chance to drive both the WRX and Evo8 recently and compared to the RX-8 they both felt like trucks. I don't care if those cars are a few tenths quicker, I'm keeping my RX-8.

CRH

The four tires fit? I hadn't yet tried to fit spares in the back seat but that is good news. Alright, just for the hell of it I'll bring the proper tools for flywheel swaps.

CRH

hell, let's bolt on some turbo's and NOS systems while we're at it.......

You know....I bet if we asked....Charlie would let us borrow his racks, even Saturday.....

Using the Zex Smart System we could also do that in about 90 minutes. Lemme know, I'll bring my Uni-Bit and 18v drill. I also have some grommets from work that fit the steel lines perfectly. If by "racks" you are referring to a lift, with that we could do the flys in about an hour each with a few hands. Just ask Ryan, aka "Broke Apex Seal".

CRH

Using the Zex Smart System we could also do that in about 90 minutes. Lemme know, I'll bring my Uni-Bit and 18v drill. I also have some grommets from work that fit the steel lines perfectly. If by "racks" you are referring to a lift, with that we could do the flys in about an hour each with a few hands. Just ask Ryan, aka "Broke Apex Seal".

CRH
You are too damn on the ball........

yes I am referring to "lifts"

damn...now I need to go find the Zex Smart System......what the hell, it's just $.

CPH
Just so happens I have a flywheel from ACT on order. I was planning on getting this done at mazcare before the track day but if that money can be saved i will definitely upgrade your hotel room dude! There is about a 2 hr break inbetween sessions at the track and we have all night friday and saturday! Charlie may let us use the lifts if we ask.
Silvereight some dyno numbers on the forum show a 12-13lb wheel has a 8.8 hp increase in 1-2nd gear then approx 5hp gain for the rest. A big factor is responsiveness.
Man this is like Christmas!
Denny(olddragger)

The four tires fit? I hadn't yet tried to fit spares in the back seat but that is good news. Alright, just for the hell of it I'll bring the proper tools for flywheel swaps.

CRH

Here's a picture. They are 2 - 285 and 2 - 245 width 18's on stock rims.

Tim,
In response to the quality of the rx8. I have owned over 32 cars. This car so far has been solid. Not perfect but dang close. Sounds like the bug has bit you. You may as well go ahead dude! Use that tax rebate!
Denny (olddragger)

Tim,
In response to the quality of the rx8. I have owned over 32 cars. This car so far has been solid. Not perfect but dang close. Sounds like the bug has bit you. You may as well go ahead dude! Use that tax rebate!
Denny (olddragger)

Oh Yeah! Thanks for reminding me. Glad we bought my wife's car in 2004 too. Makes me feel a little better about having two car payments.

Charles,
Dude, are you sure about doing this? If so, I will get my flywheel on order now. Should I go ahead & plan on replacing the clutch too, as I currently have 26,000 miles.

We certainly appreciate this opportunity.

$550 for a Zex System.... That would be a COOL install to see!

http://www.yakuzaracing.com/en-us/dept_139.html

Yeah, I'm serious. The way I see it major swaps are fairly common in the pits of some serious racers. If we can all help each other and do this the Friday night before the races in a shop with lifts, that's what hot-rodding is all about. Besides, if we allow around 2 hours per swap that should be plenty. Line a couple cars up. I know it sounds crazy but, hey, I did it in my driveway 90% alone and the rest with my brother-in-law and I in the rain. Same with the nitrous. I'll begin preparing a step-by-step as a reminder. I've got 6 weeks to prepare it. Once you see how easy this is you'll understand where I am coming from. The turbo kit is a bit different, though. No superhero claims on my part for that one.

CRH

Yeah, I'm serious. The way I see it major swaps are fairly common in the pits of some serious racers. If we can all help each other and do this the Friday night before the races in a shop with lifts, that's what hot-rodding is all about. Besides, if we allow around 2 hours per swap that should be plenty. Line a couple cars up. I know it sounds crazy but, hey, I did it in my driveway 90% alone and the rest with my brother-in-law and I in the rain. Same with the nitrous. I'll begin preparing a step-by-step as a reminder. I've got 6 weeks to prepare it. Once you see how easy this is you'll understand where I am coming from. The turbo kit is a bit different, though. No superhero claims on my part for that one.

CRH

Mr. Hill, you're my new best friend!

okay boys and girls (no we haven't forgotten about you Pam)......we're talking like Charlie has okay'd the use of his racks (lifts), tools, etc.......shouldn't we ask? Not that I'm against working on my back, in the rain, with my friends...but hey, the extra tools and props sure help the process move faster........

Mr. Hill, you're my new best friend!
....brown-noser.......:rolleyes:

OK Charles,
I'll be bringing my flywheel for a Friday night fitment.

Should we plan to change the clutch out at 26,000 miles also?

OK Charles,
I'll be bringing my flywheel for a Friday night fitment.

Should we plan to change the clutch out at 26,000 miles also?
heck, if you've got the thing dropped, now would be the time......

You guys hook up the spot where we can do the labor. I don't care if it is in the pits Saturday morning or someone's house or shop Friday night. Let's also limit it to 2-3 flywheels and maybe a nitrous kit. I'll need some sleep after driving down from Detroit. Let me know what we end up with and I'll plan accordingly.

After a planning session with my GReddy tuner-dude it looks real good for me to have the turbo/nitrous deal all operational and dyno tuned when R/A comes around. I'm looking at 7 psi with a 100 h.p. shot. At least, we'll see if we can get that far. The 55 will work great, that's for sure.

CRH

Have us out of towners agreed on a hotel yet?

Hello??? Denny, Lego, Nabil, Charles....thoughts???

$550 for a Zex System.... That would be a COOL install to see!

http://www.yakuzaracing.com/en-us/dept_139.html
519.00 shipped here:

http://tinyurl.com/3m4z6

Is this list up to date?

Nabil
Phlash69
Pam
Tim Benton
Olddragger
Rxeightr
Legokcen
Charles R Hill
Rotaryred
Marietta8 - still on the fence.
SilverEight - official journalist and videographer

I'm putting together a database on the drivers who plan to attend so I can keep all of my text in one place when I start to edit the video. I will need for each of you to PM me the following info, just copy the form info between the dashed lines and paste into your PM. I will post this info on my personal website and we can update as needed. I will give you the URL when I have it ready and will not post info on the RX8club site or anywhere else.

======================

RX8Club Screen Name:
Real Name:
City:
State:
RX8 Stock model:
Color:
Modifications:
Will you have mounted video:
One camera or two:
Other notes:

======================

I will need to be able to dupe your videos using a DSR-20 to record to a 184 DV tape. This will make it much easier when I start the editing process. My office is only 20 minutes from the track so I could take the tapes in dupe and bring back to you guys on Saturday. I'm not sure how long you plan to stick around on Sunday. My office is in Lawrenceville, back toward Atlanta from RA. I'm open for suggestions.

I am following Denny's lead on the accomodations issue. It looks like I will have a couple other jobs to do.

CRH

I am following Denny's lead on the accomodations issue. It looks like I will have a couple other jobs to do.

CRH
That's cool.....we have time.....

I have now spent a week reading through the 7000 :eek: pages of notes, blurbs, threads on the ZEX system you did and the issues you ran into. Although I am still on the fence with this, I must say...DAMN....you have done one hell of a job. My hats off to you. You saw, you did, and you continue to thrill. Thank you for ALL of the notes, feedback, blood, sweat, and tears you put into this project RX of yours. You have and will continue to educate many. Thanks!

Is this list up to date?

Nabil
Phlash69
Pam
Tim Benton
Olddragger
Rxeightr
Legokcen
Charles R Hill
Rotaryred
Marietta8 - still on the fence.
SilverEight - official journalist and videographer

Yes it is. Marietta8 will indeed be joining us on track.

I'm putting together a database on the drivers who plan to attend so I can keep all of my text in one place when I start to edit the video. I will need for each of you to PM me the following info, just copy the form info between the dashed lines and paste into your PM. I will post this info on my personal website and we can update as needed. I will give you the URL when I have it ready and will not post info on the RX8club site or anywhere else.

======================

RX8Club Screen Name:
Real Name:
City:
State:
RX8 Stock model:
Color:
Modifications:
Will you have mounted video:
One camera or two:
Other notes:

======================

I will need to be able to dupe your videos using a DSR-20 to record to a 184 DV tape. This will make it much easier when I start the editing process. My office is only 20 minutes from the track so I could take the tapes in dupe and bring back to you guys on Saturday. I'm not sure how long you plan to stick around on Sunday. My office is in Lawrenceville, back toward Atlanta from RA. I'm open for suggestions.

I think it would be best to keep the web posted info to our online names rather than full names. I'll PM you all my info...

The hotel doesn't really matter to me. The Scottish Inn was cheap, so I'll more than likely go with that again. I just need a bed to sleep in. Its like a couple miles from the track so it's great. Exit 16 off 985 I think. $42/night.

I think it would be best to keep the web posted info to our online names rather than full names. I'll PM you all my info...

Good idea, this way we'll have no clue who Charles R Hill and Tim Benton really are. :)

Good idea, this way we'll have no clue who Charles R Hill and Tim Benton really are. :)
ROFLMAO.....:p

Good idea, this way we'll have no clue who Charles R Hill and Tim Benton really are. :)

Yeah exactly! Their names are probably Mike Smith and John Williams or something.

Damn! You got me good...

So I have been looking online for ACT flywheels and counterweights. I see prices all over for 266 for the prolite flywheel. But the counter weight seems to be well beyond the $50 range. Anyone have a good lead on these items and the best prices out there?

I agree. Not a problem. I will not use any personal names for the online info. What am I supposed to use for Charles Hill? How about "Bat out of screaming hell"! :D

Nabil
Charlie can get you a counterweight for around $60. From Mazda I think. Be careful on the flywheel. I ordered the one that Charlie got. I am not certain if that was the Prolite or the Streetlite. I do know the TOTAL weight of the flywheel,counterweight and the bolts was a little over 13lbs. The Prolite weight in at around 9lbs. I suspect that it may be too light for street use. I could be wrong. Also the price i paid for mine is compatable for the streetlite version.
Too light a flywheel will really mess up street driving.
Since I already had a gentlemans agreement with the Charlie/Mazcare crew concerning instillation I letting them install mine. It happens 2/9. I'll keep yall updated.
Olddragger

Since I already had a gentlemans agreement with the Charlie/Mazcare crew concerning instillation I letting them install mine. It happens 2/9. I'll keep yall updated.
OlddraggerHe's doing my TEINS 2/10.....my oh my, these little get togethers have been good business for Charlie and company.....:D

BTW - Charlie has the Prolite, the Streetlite with the counterweight will put you almost at the same weight as my MazdaSpeed flywheel.

CRH
I just saw youre latest note. 7lbs! 100shot! and dyno tuned? Damn dude! You tuning for the strip or road track?
You may want to leave the nos OFF while you are on the track. 100 horse jolt at the wrong time = Yiyyyyyyyy Momma! Remember we will have 104 octane available. Unleaded of course.
What do you think you will be pushing at the wheel 340+?
Silvereight I concur"Bat out of Hell" is very fitting!
For those of you that would like a modified airbox I will glady have instuctions and some cut plexiglass/template for you. See superscouts thread and that is what it looks like. plexaglass on top of the stock cut out airbox and a cone filter installed and behind the glass. Course you reroute the intake pipe also. to true cold air.
MAn this trip is taking off.
As far as hotels The Scott may be ok. It's inexpensive and conveinant for sure. It's clean also. We have time with that. If Saturday night turns into a cruise we may want to stay around tha mall of georgia.
Just a thought.
Anyone doing nos?
olddragger

As far as hotels The Scott may be ok. It's inexpensive and conveinant for sure. It's clean also. We have time with that. If Saturday night turns into a cruise we may want to stay around tha mall of georgia.Just a thought.

Anyone doing nos?
olddragger
The Scott works for me....reservations for Friday and Saturday in the works....

On the fence with the NOS install.....damn, i'm spending $ like I have it....heck sounds like Charles will have his hands full already with a couple flywheels.....hell, he's gonna spend half the weekend cleaning drool from us off of his ride.....

I hope Charlie lets us use his lifts and such.....

Damn, I was just kidding with my wife and I told her about all this NOS talk. She's encouraging me to do it! Damn I'm tempted. I'll do my tax return this weekend and see if Uncle Sam wants me to buy something for the 8.

Lego, hang on to that lady! She apparently knows the key to a man's heart is through his wheels. :D

So are most people getting a room at the scottish inn? I think they have a little local pizza joint on the right as you are going to the track (white building). We can get some pizza and head back to the Inn and work on the cars on Saturday night.

Tim

I think my flywheel dreams are gonna wait awhile. I am interested in fabbing an intake like olddragger though.

Nabil
Like Mr Hill has said, "this could be like a old time hot rod get together's!" No problem with the airbox thingy.
Phlash I'm just getting what Charlie got and he says his is driveable without problems.
If it ends up with us working on the 8's in the parking lot someone better bring a 100" drop cord so we can have light.
Tim B ,I have stayed at The Scott once before and it was ok ,nothing fancy but clean and cheap. Plenty of places around to grab a bite to eat. It's ok by me.
olddragger

Cool, I finally got in. Hope this site is back together soon cause I'm going freaking nuts without it.

Tim,
saw your invite on the rx7 page. Great man. The more the merrier!
olddragger

I tried to PM this info to silvereight but it's sortof like the forum is right now, fubar'd.

RX8Club Screen Name: Tim Benton
Real Name: umm, Tim Benton, yeah that's the ticket
City: Cedartown
State: Ga
RX7 model: 1993 touring
Color: brilliant black
Modifications: a bunch - last dyno 339 at 12 psi and 363 at 14.22 psi.
Will you have mounted video: No
One camera or two: None
Other notes: Thanks for doing the editing of the videos!

My identity was changed to protect the scantity of my marriage since my wife won't claim me otherwise :)

Tim

Oh my gawd!!! We're back!!!! Thanks Forum gods!

Yahoooooo! Howdy Friends!

When I get the turbo tuned to 7 psi it should add around 100 h.p. to the already 225 mhp(motivational h.p.) at the rear wheels. The 100 shot "should" total around 400-425, if all goes well. That's all a matter of mathematics at this point. Although I don't intend to use the "nos" on the courses I would like to point out that the use of nitrous is not a sudden surge like most would believe. Nitrous tends to magnify the torque curve the engine already has. There is a feeling of added power across the rpm band but when I hit 6K the barn doors fly open. That's no different than when N/A, just bigger numbers. Road racing is why I have decided on the turbo. I figure anybody running a 12 second 1/4 mile has plenty of power for course racing. Denny will be able to give all of you a first-hand description of what it is like to drive an 11 second RX-8 because he will be behind the wheel for a while due to his hospitality.

As far as the flywheel swaps and nitrous go, I enjoy demystifying the concepts of certain mods that are perceived as being complicated or "major". These are neither. When we all start the process those of you with prior experience will be pleased to learn that the RX-8 looks just like your favorite musclecar from the underside, at least as far as the transmission is concerned. A 55 shot of nitrous is the icing on the cake for the RX and will place the 1/4 mile time of even a stock version in the high 13's. Whoever chooses to have me do a nitrous install should plan on new tires, as well. You will get absolutely no traction in first and maybe even some spin going into second.

Doing the swaps/installs in the hotel parking lot may be a bit risky due to local ordinances. We may be better off doing them in the R/A lot or pit area Saturday morning or early evening. I'll bring the tools necessary and even the power cords, if need be. My tool box is not huge but I seem to have put together a box that covers 99% of the situations I have encountered and it still fits in my trunk. I would like to have those whose cars I'll be working on p.m. me so I can begin direct dialogue to ensure that all of the incidentals are covered and we have all of the parts that will be needed.

BTW, that write-up about the flywheel swap in the latest issue of RX Tuner should not serve to discourage those who want me to do one for them. That mechanic must have been an idiot to have not done it right the first time. The only way one can install the flywheel out of balance is to have omitted the keyway that mates the balancer to the e-shaft. That won't happen when we do the swaps.

CRH

Oh my gawd!!! We're back!!!! Thanks Forum gods!

My productivity had gone way up in the past few days. So glad the forum is working again! Now to catch up with all the threads and brace myself for the impending deluge of posts from pent up posters...

Denny will be able to give all of you a first-hand description of what it is like to drive an 11 second RX-8 because he will be behind the wheel for a while due to his hospitality.

brown-noser....:rolleyes:

Whoever chooses to have me do a nitrous install should plan on new tires, as well. You will get absolutely no traction in first and maybe even some spin going into second.

Hell, I just installed new tires.....pm'd you on some questions...on the fence still on this one.....:confused:


Doing the swaps/installs in the hotel parking lot may be a bit risky due to local ordinances. We may be better off doing them in the R/A lot or pit area Saturday morning or early evening. I'll bring the tools necessary and even the power cords, if need be. My tool box is not huge but I seem to have put together a box that covers 99% of the situations I have encountered and it still fits in my trunk. I would like to have those whose cars I'll be working on p.m. me so I can begin direct dialogue to ensure that all of the incidentals are covered and we have all of the parts that will be needed.

Denny,

You see Charlie tomorrow (for about four hours), can you ask about using his lifts after hours Friday and maybe Saturday night as well?.........:confused:

CRH*

Damn, I was going through withdrawal. Glad this is back up! You're right Nabil, I've spent much less time on the internet the last few days.

"Hello, my name is Levent, and I'm addicted to this forum."

Got it. Thanks!

I tried to PM this info to silvereight but it's sortof like the forum is right now, fubar'd.

RX8Club Screen Name: Tim Benton
Real Name: umm, Tim Benton, yeah that's the ticket...
... My identity was changed to protect the scantity of my marriage since my wife won't claim me otherwise :)

Tim

I vote to change SilverEight's avatar. It has been the same for more than 5 minutes :D

LMAO... When I get my car back from the shop, I'll change it to a pic of my car and leave it alone for a few minutes.

I would like to have those whose cars I'll be working on p.m. me so I can begin direct dialogue to ensure that all of the incidentals are covered and we have all of the parts that will be needed.CRH

I have PM'd you. Thanks again Charles.

Charles,
I get to drive "the Beast!" Whooo Hooo It's Christmas In March! Don't worry Mr Hill I will drive very respectfully. I have driven cars with that much power before(not the 8!) and believe you me you treat the thottle like an eggshell. You know Charles 8 may be putting out more power than any street 8 in the USA. Guys we are in for a hell of a time here.
I will be at Mazcare tomorrow. Charles didnt get to go to his race(he got a virus) so I may have the oppitunity to ask about using his place for the swaps Friday evening/night. I know at Road Atlanta we can use the pit area but we would have to wait on the car to cool etc.
Gotta go guys, I'll write later.
olddragger(Denny)

I was going to work yesterday and saw a silver 8 with dark tint with a UGA tag. Hung with it for a little bit but had to speed up b/c of all the slower drivers in the right lane going up GA 400. I guess he headed up to the toll booth, I got off at the Financial Center. Anybody know who this is?

Nope, not me. Mine's not on the road these days and I travel in the Buford/Lawrenceville area.

Hey, did you guys see East Moon's map with all the updates of our screen names on the US Map?
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=18382&page=1&pp=15

Here's the question of the day and a major selling point with the wife if we buy an 8. I'm not sure if we could fit a medium size suitcase in the trunk due to the small opening. it would fit once it was in there, but how many harry houdini people have been able to do it?

Tim

I think it'll fit, but I'll say anything you want me to so you'll get an 8.

Well,
it's done. ACT prolite with the auto rx7 counterweight has been installed! TOTAL weight little over 13lbs! ABSOULUTELY no driveability issues! I really couldn't tell any differance in getting started etc. Smooth, clutch petal release is the same. It took Charlie about 2-3 hrs to do once on the rack and I left him alone to work.
The differance in performance? I can honestly say that what all you have heard is true. In 1st gear once it gets past 5k you dont have time to think before the tach redlines. 2nd is almost just as strong. 3nd, and the rest still a big differance but it is less than 1st and 2nd.
Its a great mod.
By the way while i was free reving a little we noticed something. I have placed heavyweight plexiglass on the top of my airbox now(great bling factor) and placed a cone filter in it etc. Well when you rev her you can actually see the plexiglass get sucked in a bit from the engine pulling so much air. Makes you think doesnt it.
Allen was out today and charlie and crew where really busy. He and all the crew did say that they are looking forward to all of us coming there on that Friday. I didnt get a chance to ask about the lifts. I dont think it would be a problem. He did register today for the event(said as soon as he got a chance) but said that he would only be able to do Saturday.
For those of you that dont have a light wheel ---you have got to get one !
olddragger

The flywheel made a big difference on the 3rd gen. Granted it was the butt dyno, but I could feel it more so than when I put in the downpipe and catback.

Tim

Still need info from a few of you guys. Copy, and past the info between the dashed lines into a PM and type the info after the colons.

Thanks

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Here's the question of the day and a major selling point with the wife if we buy an 8. I'm not sure if we could fit a medium size suitcase in the trunk due to the small opening. it would fit once it was in there, but how many harry houdini people have been able to do it?

Tim
I can easily fit any kind of carry on luggage in my trunk. I have also easily fit the next size up suitcase. But, you do have to go in vertical and then negotiate the turn to lay it down into the trunk.

Well,
it's done. ACT prolite with the auto rx7 counterweight has been installed! TOTAL weight little over 13lbs! ABSOULUTELY no driveability issues! I really couldn't tell any differance in getting started etc. Smooth, clutch petal release is the same. It took Charlie about 2-3 hrs to do once on the rack and I left him alone to work.
The differance in performance? I can honestly say that what all you have heard is true. In 1st gear once it gets past 5k you dont have time to think before the tach redlines. 2nd is almost just as strong. 3nd, and the rest still a big differance but it is less than 1st and 2nd.
Its a great mod.
By the way while i was free reving a little we noticed something. I have placed heavyweight plexiglass on the top of my airbox now(great bling factor) and placed a cone filter in it etc. Well when you rev her you can actually see the plexiglass get sucked in a bit from the engine pulling so much air. Makes you think doesnt it.
Allen was out today and charlie and crew where really busy. He and all the crew did say that they are looking forward to all of us coming there on that Friday. I didnt get a chance to ask about the lifts. I dont think it would be a problem. He did register today for the event(said as soon as he got a chance) but said that he would only be able to do Saturday.
For those of you that dont have a light wheel ---you have got to get one !
olddragger


Where did you get the flywheel from?

LEGO,
Through Charlie at Mazcare. The wheel came from umlimited motorsports(friend of his) and Charlie obtained the counterweight locally.
olddragger

I have been doing pretty well fighting back flywheel urges. You guys are not making this very easy. I had planned to do the Racing Beat intake as my next mod. But, if I am able to successfully duplicate the olddragger intake, that may free up some cash for a prolite flywheel. Decisions, decisions...

Anyone else getting excited about March 19th yet? I am driving myself nuts waiting. Maybe CRH after installing his turbo can take us back to the future in his car...

Saw Charlie and company yesterday. Got the TEINS and the EDFC installed...........OH MY GAWD...SWEET!!! Almost a 2" drop in front and .7 in the back. Dead even gap all the way around now. Tight as a friggin' drum. Softest setting feel is close to stock on the road (well, untill you jerk the wheel and feel like an F18 fighter pilot). The Hardest setting lets you figure out if a coin is on heads or tails.....the car is truly on rails with the set up. I'm having to learn to drive it all over again. Can't wait until March!! Charlie says "Hi".

Dennis, thrilled to hear the upgrade is all you hoped for. I drove Chalie's with your setup and then mine with the MS setup, and well, I really need to drive a stock unit again....real damn hard to "feel" the difference between the two unlike when I moved from stock to the light weight unit. I've been thrilled with the upgrade.....now if the friggin' RB intake would just hurry up.......

Yall "might" want to save your money on the rb intake. Only a 2 hp gain and mine has that at least and much more "bling" factor! I can post the way to do it now if yall want to go ahead.
here we go:
To do the complete mod it is as follows:
1- Remove front bumper(not hard, check the diy thread)
2- take the oem intake pipe off
3-take your airbox out of the car( again easy to do)
4- open airbox, remove all the guts(filter, baffles, cone, screens) ,remove maf from airbox and put in SAFE place.
5- save all the parts!
6- buy an open front cone type filter with a 3 1/2" fitting (you can make a 3" fit but it is much more involved.)
7- cut out the top part of your airbox to the size of the opening you want.
8- buy heavy plexaglass and automotive insulated foam strips(got mine at lowes)
9- buy 1" self tapping crome screws(lowes)
10- buy 4" to 3" adapter from the home heating and cooling section at lowes,home depot etc .
11- buy section from pepboys of 3" automotive heating flextube(lowes didnt have it lol)
12- cut your plexaglass to fit and then mount
13- mount your cone filter to the stock airbox pipe that remains after you remove the velocity stack looking thing from it.
14- replace one mesh screen in its place in the airbox
15- remount your cone filter into the airbox
16- reroute your airintake pipe to whereever you want it(mine is behind the rotory symbol)
17-install the 4"to 3" adapter to the newly rerouted intake pipe.
18 -install the velocity stack looking piece from the airbox to the 4-3 adapter and mount it with a screw to the location you want,
19 put it all back together
sounds much harder than it is!
olddragger

Alright I did it, I am officially registered for the NASA event! You guys are like a bunch of drug dealers giving out free crack samples! You are all invited to the shop on Friday afternoon/evening for the usual bolt on/ B...sh.. sessions. I'll try to have some video from the old ITS days for you this time. I'll look forward to seeing you all soon.

I may have stretched the truth a little when I said did some testing for the Williams F1 team on the experience part of the registration! They seemed real impressed anyway.

Charlie

Well, Charlie, you've really raised the level of expectation we have from you with that F1 story, haven't you?

I hate to brag or boast but with that Tein/EDFC story I'll have to check and see if they or JIC are on my new sponsor list. I know I have GReddy, HKS, Volk, Sparco, Turbonetics, APEXi, and a few others helping out. If a part is out there, I'll try it.

CRH

Alright I did it, I am officially registered for the NASA event! You guys are like a bunch of drug dealers giving out free crack samples! You are all invited to the shop on Friday afternoon/evening for the usual bolt on/ B...sh.. sessions. I'll try to have some video from the old ITS days for you this time. I'll look forward to seeing you all soon.

I may have stretched the truth a little when I said did some testing for the Williams F1 team on the experience part of the registration! They seemed real impressed anyway.

Charlie

Welcome to the party! Are you in HPDE1 or HPDE2?

Alright, I've talked to my connection with RXTuner and we've got a go for an article if we can compare track day 1 with track day 2. Need the same car/driver for before and after the NOS install or light flywheel install. They prefer to have the NOS. Day 1 without NOS, look as top speed and lap times. Then day 2 with the NOS top speed and lap times. If we can chronical the NOS install, it's gravy. Any takers??? Someone get's their car and person featured in RXTuner and Mr. Hill get's featured for the technical experience. Also, our group gets to be recognized for the awsome bunch of people we are. With some pictures of Mazcare, we should all be able to have a great time and contribute. I'll be happy to write it up. What do you all think??? We need a NOS committment and an install on Sat, or not use it on Sat and use it on Sunday.

Please let me know so I can get back in touch with them ASAP.

Awesome, will I have RXTuner credentials? :D