Im sure someone has already posted this but i found it hella cool dont know the meritt behind it but check it out for sure.

http://www.muslumangenc.net/flash/pentagon244.swf

good video i recommend it.

Pretty interesting. I would like to hear more about it but my biggest question is what happened to flight 77 then?

I dont know. It was a crazy video. The music was great i wonder if they will ever show those videos the fbi confiscated.

many people said the video was a fake

many people said the video was a fake


Yah but the whole point of a disscussion to say it was a fake is to find holes and wonrg doings in their evidence. You just cant say it was fake because you want it to be fake.

The plane flying at 530 MPH flew into the Pentagon, and disentigrated, you try driving an RX8 into a brick wall at 600 mpg, and see how much is left.

No missile on the planet could make a dent like that in the building. Even a bomb, would have a hard time penatrating the outside ring.

Yah but the whole point of a disscussion to say it was a fake is to find holes and wonrg doings in their evidence. You just cant say it was fake because you want it to be fake.

i never said it was a fake..i said "MANY PEOPLE SAID IT WAS A FAKE"

The plane flying at 530 MPH flew into the Pentagon, and disentigrated, you try driving an RX8 into a brick wall at 600 mpg, and see how much is left.

No missile on the planet could make a dent like that in the building. Even a bomb, would have a hard time penatrating the outside ring.
The size of an rx8 is small. You cant compare it to a place. There has to be remains. And why is the government so scared of the videos that they had to confistcate them? It just doesnt make sense im not saying it didnt happen but it just makes you think.

I saw the guy that is heading up this conspiracy theory on the tele one night and all I can say is "CRAZY!!" He is as loonie as they come. If there is evidence of anything contrary to what we now understand he ain't the right person to be bringing it forward. Perception is truth for people many times and he would be laughed out of the country.

I saw the video of JFK being shot about 100 times and I believe the grassy noll theory. If he was shot from behind why did his head snap backwards instead of forwards? I also saw a show recreating the shooting and testing the magic bullet theory. They made a pretty good argument that it was possible for one bullet to have made seven wounds. I don't think the plane thing will be this big but you never know!

Okay, I'm here again to let it be known I was there on 9/11. It was real!

I saw the guy that is heading up this conspiracy theory on the tele one night and all I can say is "CRAZY!!" He is as loonie as they come. If there is evidence of anything contrary to what we now understand he ain't the right person to be bringing it forward. Perception is truth for people many times and he would be laughed out of the country.


The problem here is that just because someone thinks different and his views contradict yours you must think he is a loon. I am not personally attacking you I am just saying CNN and most of the major american channels are puppets of bush so something like that he would want under the wraps.

Okay, I'm here again to let it be known I was there on 9/11. It was real!


So you physically saw a boeing slam in to the side of a pentagon. So many people are tourists at the pentagon your telling me no one had a camera that would have caught a HUGE plane slamming into a building. In newyork there were at least a dozen of different views of the planes smashing into the buildings.

Yeah, this is BS. I know for a fact it was a plane. My friend Jason works in crystal city and he saw it fly by his office. His wife was actually in the Pentagon at the time. Luckily they struck the side that was under construction, so there weren't many people in those offices.

As far as what happened to the plane, it's a little thing called jet fuel. It burns really hot.

If you had seen him you would understand what I am saying. Some people just give off that "I'm not all there upstairs." vibe and he's got it. I personally don't care if it was a plane or a missile, because either way our men and women died.

http://www.2drx.com/2003/BearBasin03/PlaneWreckageL.jpg Yeah, this is BS. I know for a fact it was a plane. My friend Jason works in crystal city and he saw it fly by his office. His wife was actually in the Pentagon at the time. Luckily they struck the side that was under construction, so there weren't many people in those offices.

As far as what happened to the plane, it's a little thing called jet fuel. It burns really hot.

Hmm here is some pictures of planes getting smashed.

http://images.tvnz.co.nz/news/accidents_overseas/plane_wreckage_russia.jpg http://www.komotv.com/news/images/missing_plane_031404.jpg http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/Gallery/police/images/erebus1.jpg

here is a good link also

http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg111258.html

if they say it was a plane, and they are sure it was a plane, why havent the security tapes been released? i saw the tapes to 9/11 moments after it happened, and those are all over. Those were planes too, shouldnt the FBI be classifying those also?

So you physically saw a boeing slam in to the side of a pentagon. So many people are tourists at the pentagon your telling me no one had a camera that would have caught a HUGE plane slamming into a building. In newyork there were at least a dozen of different views of the planes smashing into the buildings.


No but here is exactly what I do have! Upon evacuation of the building as I stood in south parking there was a woman holding her child crying! She said to me and a few others that while she was waiting to pick up her husband (a captain who worked somewhere in the building) she saw a plane fly into the side of the building. Now I doubted her at the time and thought maybe she was mistaken and perhaps one of the helicopters had some difficulty and hit the side of the building (if you don't know that was the side of the building where the helipad was at the time). I asked her "you mean a helicopter?" and she replied "no, a plane". Here's another little tidbit, I was talking to one of the DPS officers a few weeks ago (because this topic was brought up before in here). I was telling him some of the BS that is said about what happened and he said he was one of those who had to go through some of the areas that the plane had puched through. He said there were in fact parts of the aircraft present in the building. As far as video footage goes from tourist! Why would there be any from that side of the building. Most people who travel the road with the best view of that side of the building drive it everyday on their commute to and from work so there would be no need for a video camera. Most people in the area have seen it frequently! Tourist more than likely pop up out of the metro which while it's kinda in south parking is on the other side. There is really no tourist parking and a tourist more than likely would have been turned around going to that side of the building. We are talking about the command center for the U.S. Armed Forces (a little tighter on security on some portions) vs an office building was open to public access. That is the difference with video footage and access to certain vantage points.

its also the largest office building in the world, its conceivable that someone in the other side of the pentagon might think no way was that an airliner, i didnt even get knocked down or something, but be wrong because he was so far away...a lot of people work there a lot of people may have had different reactions. doubt is the first thing in crises.

These are the exact same loonies who view the planes smashing into the twin towers, and say -
"Wait!....back the tape up.....right there! Behind the other tower.....See it? That's a UFO!" :rolleyes:

Absolutely bonkers. I have never seen such a level of DENIAL!

S

TL, hows the KN?!

That video is SUCH a bunch of crap. There is at least one security video that has the plane flying into the Pentagon. I have a friend who was IN the Pentagon when it happened. And there was a MASSIVE hole in the darn thing. Anyone who lives in or near Washington saw it (including myself). This conspiracy bit is completely disrespectlful to anyone who was in the building, died on the plane, or had a relative that died on the plane.


As for the tourist bit- do you ACTUALLY think they let people wander around the Pentagon grounds taking videos?? You can get tours by reservation only- and they don't let you just walk around anywhere. And anyway, it's not exactly the height of Tourism in washington- you're gonna find the video cameras on the Mall and at the Zoo- not wandering around over that direction.

Just a quivk question? Something did hit a building that is foor sure. Was it an airliner? I don't know. Official speed of that plane according to CNN and various other news sources was that it was travelling at 540 knots (about 900 ft per second). The airplane is about 170ft long. If you go to the CNN website that has a video from one of the security camera at the pentagon caught the explosion and nothing else. the camera, if I am not wrong records at 5 frames a second. That means it captures some thing at 200ms. There was not even a shadow of the aircraft for the few seconds before the impact. That tells me the plane had to be in the supersonic speed regime prior to impact. Not possible for the 757 as it would desintegrate as it enters the tran-sonic zone. Remember, the airplane was in a very shallow dive. Think about it. Something did hit the pentagon. But was it a 757?

I could be wrong but the math does not add up.

From what I know, no one has ever "seen" these bodies onboard flight 77...interesting. There have been bodies but nothing connecting them to the accident scene. Does anyone on here know of someone/are related to the victims? CNN has a page describing most of the passengers on that flight, but do they even exist? I am on the fence with this subject. I am not saying it is real or just rumors.

From what I know, no one has ever "seen" these bodies onboard flight 77...interesting. There have been bodies but nothing connecting them to the accident scene. Does anyone on here know of someone/are related to the victims? CNN has a page describing most of the passengers on that flight, but do they even exist? I am on the fence with this subject. I am not saying it is real or just rumors.


Gee, I dunno. But I'm sure you can look some of these guys up that were in the armed forces. Try calling their relatives up and ask THEM whether or not they exist. And if CNN has them listed, they know how to find their families. Give em a call and tell them exactly what you just wrote.


http://www.public-action.com/911/rescue/obq-nyt-09-14-2001/


You know, we didn't really land on the moon either. And that war in Iraq thing? It's all made up by the media. That's all doctored footage you're seeing. Oh yeah, the Holocaust was fake too.

Find me a piece of a plane in this picture (http://www.apfn.org/apfn/77_photo.htm)

That was my mistake. I didn't do enough research before posting my first message. The people on the plane ARE real. I just don't see evidence of the plane near the Pentagon.

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

and an eyewitness story for you too.

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/PAandAAF77.html

What about the 1000's of gallons of fuel on the supposed plane?

it burned?

what about the people who were scheduled to be on that flight? did they all just disappear?

Find me a piece of a plane in this picture (http://www.apfn.org/apfn/77_photo.htm)

pick up the rubble and sift.

The plane flying at 530 MPH flew into the Pentagon, and disentigrated, you try driving an RX8 into a brick wall at 600 mpg, and see how much is left.

No missile on the planet could make a dent like that in the building. Even a bomb, would have a hard time penatrating the outside ring.
Shit, I'd like my 8 to get 600 mpg. :D

So explain, "there was no plane......" you take it from there.

When the 'govmint' kidnapped all those people from the plane, how did they board the UFOs?

Who stole the thousands of gallons of jetfuel?

Is the home-base REALLY behind comet Swift-Tuttle? I want to believe SO bad.....

Don't just say "Maybe, maybe not - I'm on the fence" let us know exactly how spooky/wierd you really are.

Show 'em you're nuts!! :rolleyes:

S

LOL. I am finding it very hard to believe a plane was anywhere near the Pentagon. That is all.
So explain, "there was no plane......" you take it from there.

When the 'govmint' kidnapped all those people from the plane, how did they board the UFOs?

Who stole the thousands of gallons of jetfuel?

Is the home-base REALLY behind comet Swift-Tuttle? I want to believe SO bad.....

Don't just say "Maybe, maybe not - I'm on the fence" let us know exactly how spooky/wierd you really are.

Show 'em you're nuts!! :rolleyes:

S

As I mentioned the last 3 times this video has been posted, my neighbor is an electrician, and he was part of the cleanup effort for the pentagon. He was pretty sure a plane hit the building, and said he saw plane parts in the rubble.

Even a normal plane crash that just lands in a field tends to have little remaining due to the fact that the plane is hollow, carries a shitload of fuel in the wings where most of the actual hardware is located.

Even though it's a hoax, the video was well made, and I enjoyed watching it. It's just a shame that some people can't tell fact from fiction.

btw, how many of you caught the nazi speech in the start of the video?

btw, how many of you caught the nazi speech in the start of the video?

yeah whats up with that

look planes leave more wreckage the more fuel they are carrying, this one was full, metal melts and can vaporize at that temperature, in addition there will be no wreckage or destruction to the ground if the plane hits the pentagon in the air (even if its only 5 feet off the ground) there were people not accounted for on that plane, saying it was a hoax is an insult to them and their families, shame on you guys.

Anyone who thinks the plane would hit the building and the wings would fall off and be left at the point of impact clearly never saw the videos of the WTC being hit. The plane completely vanishes.

The problem here is that just because someone thinks different and his views contradict yours you must think he is a loon. I am not personally attacking you I am just saying CNN and most of the major american channels are puppets of bush so something like that he would want under the wraps.

LOL sorry that's just too funny, CNN and the rest of the Alphabet soup networks puppets of Bush? Hahahah, thats like saying the NAACP is a puppet of the Klan, sheesh!

Jason,

I work at boeing and have seen a fair share of crash reports and pics. The most amazing one was the 737 off Indonesia that impacted the water at pretty much supersonic speed. You might as well hit a concrete wall. They still found huge chunks of the airplane intact.

Now, I am not saying an airplane did not hit the building. But from basic mathematical calculations, the thing that hit the pentagon was beyond the sound barrier. The airplane supposedly impacted the Pentagon at 540 knots.. That is about 900 ft/s (speed of sound at sea level is about 1100ft/s). The video footage I saw on the CNN site showed the video taken from the pentagon security camera which captures the video at 5 frames/sec. That is to say it captures an image every 200 ms. The airplane at 900ft/s travels 220 ft/200ms (approx). The camera should have at least capture a pic of the nose or the tail before it impacted (in a 1 second frame). The airplane is about 170ft long. There was none of that on the CNN video footage.

Sure something hit the Pentagon. Whether its a 757, well the math just does not add up.

Correct me if I am wrong but if something were travelling beyond the sound barrier at that height there would have been numerous windows and such broken throughout DC and it would have been heard for many miles. There is no evidence of that is there?

This reminds me of a guy who had proof the world doesn't exist. He had some magic math to prove it too.

i only have one thing to say to all of this. A plane hit the building..peopel say it hit. NO matter what you choose to believe it doesn't change the fact that a plane hit the pentagon.

Oh and i was in the military..i have friends who were stationed in d.c. and who saw the plane hit. There is a naval building that the plane flew over/past right befor it hit the pentagon..and peopel in that building watched teh whole thing happen.

oh and a boeing 757-300 is 178ft long a boeing 757-200 is 155ft long if a plane is traveling at 540 knots it is going 911.4173228346 ft/sec so if a camera takes a picture 5 times in one second inbetween shots the plane will travel 182.28346456692 feet. So as far as i can see mr. math doesn't add up...it is very possible that the plane would not show up only the explosion from the resulting crash. Just my two cents

It was a horrible tragidy, with a lot of families and friends and loved ones left with a hole in there lives which will never be filled. If only we could turn back time and stop these horrible things from happening.:(

I don't know if there is any single missile that could cause that kind of damage. If they didn't find many large parts of the plane, it could be because the place burned for days.

The thing that makes me laugh the most is the name of the site! I could only imagine why someone would come up with the Flash Movie. Seems a little fishy!!!!

Jason,

I am mot proving anything. I am asking you to do basic math. If you could proof my numbers wrong, let me know. I'll be happy to lbe corrected.

Army boy,

You did not understand math or math is not your strong point. At 200ms, you have about a 220 ft window. Even at 155ft length (which is about 3/4 the size of the 220ft window of the frame) you should see something, don't you agree? The field of vision of the camera was greater than 150ft. Even at supersonic speed you would at least get a glimpse of the aircraft (at least the tail or nose). You had at least 5 frames to see it.

Once again, I am not saying it did not happen. I am just saying the numbers do not add up.

Yes, but at supersonic speed there would be city wide property damage, and that would have at least made the news. In the video there is a plane in one of the frames, but mysteriously that frame is really cloudy and the image is disfigured. That seems to be the real conspiracy here.

Yellow RX8, which video are you talking about? The one I am referring to is available in the CNN archive.

hmmm where did the number for 540 knots come from first off...and where did the field of view number come from. and as a matter of fact my math isn't too bad. not liek this is quamtum physics or advanced calc we are talking about here...it's pretty basic stuff..and from what numbers you threw out it is possible (granted a very narrow possiblity).

Ah.......and i wasn't aware my name said army boy...could've sworn it was army_rx8. or do i not have a grasp of english as well:p

The video from the first post of this thread has a frame showing a majorly disfigured object about to hit, and next frame an explosion. Then shows a still of the first frame and asks, Does this look like a 757? It could be a white elephant for all we can tell from what they have on their video.

oh and where did the 200ms number come from you said the plane was going 540 knots (200ms is only 388.76 knots) just curious:D

The video from the first post of this thread has a frame showing a majorly disfigured object about to hit, and next frame an explosion. Then shows a still of the first frame and asks, Does this look like a 757? It could be a white elephant for all we can tell from what they have on their video.

good point the video does suck...but i've seen a white elephant...they look nothing like anythign in that picture:p hehehe

I dunno, from what I saw of it I could make out a silver or grey top and white bottom. When they do the side by side in the flash you can see it.

The pilot of flight 77 was a co-pilot with a friend of mine in the navy years ago. It is real.

This is not a in any way a way of saying people did not die. I just like to think outside the box. And man you wanna here real media watch the John Daily show he told Carlson off on his own damn show (its in the newest FHM)

But dont flame me i just posted it because the video was real cool.

Yeah, I'll give you that the video/flash is well produced and has a catchy tune even.

Now I haven't been following this particular theory so my question is what are these guys saying happened?

On the same day 45 or so mins after two planes are hijacked by our friends from the "Religion of Peace"TM and slammed into the World Trade Centre towers, the evil "Military Industrial Complex" decided to

a) Slam a military jet into the Pentagon? or
b) Hit the pentagon with a missile?

Ok fine.... WHY!?????? What would be the point of this?

What purpose would that serve at all? Excuse to go to war? Can't think of a better one than having 3000 of you citizens killed while they sat down to work one September morning, why would you need more?

Its good to think outside of the box, but when you go too far outside you end up in conspiracy theory lala land, like much of the Middle East, and the results of that a quite clear, they are still stuck in their 13th century mind set, still blaming everyone else except their leaders for all their woes, its those "Jews" or the "American Satan" responsible for all their hardships,

Just take a gander through what passes as regular news in some of those papers over there, they are so far out of the box, they don't even know where it is anymore :D

If you fellow forum members are so intent to change the way I interpreted the information I have before me, explain the reason behind this picture so I can finally sleep peacefully at night :) . Maybe I am just THAT dense and gullible, or you can even hate me for believing in something you consider pure gibberish. I just wanted to voice my opinion on the matter and didn't intend to spark the reaction that it did, nor offend anyone if I did. I just feel there are some good points that suggest it wasn't a plane that hit the Pentagon...or am I looking for the answers in all the wrong places? :confused:

First off, one has to consider that the "facts" being used are coming from conspiracy theorists, so it's hard to make any statements based on biased information that may or may not be accurate.

Secondly, if you saw the WTC planes hitting in slow motion, you saw how the plane vanished into the building without any hesitation. But consider that the WTC was an office building with glass windows, not a steel reenforced government building with bulletproof walls. Almost all the damage on the pentagon was due to the jet fuel burning. Just like the WTC, if it wasn't for the fire, the damage wouldn't have been as great.

Look up the Lockerbie plane crash. The plane was blown up mid air in the body area, but when the wings hit the ground, they burned up and had nothing remaining due to the jet fuel.

The jets going into the WTC buildings went in tilted and not a straight shot as I remember. They are trying to cause as much death as possible. The plane pic someone shows and has question marks for the wings determined a straight hit. That plane could have come in at a steep angle. I hope no one is buying this theory.

Recall that when the first airliner was flown into a World Trade Center tower on September 11 — before it was known that the "accident" was really part of a deliberate terrorist attack — newscasters were speculating that a small plane had accidentally flown into the side of the tower, because the visible exterior damage didn't seem as extensive as what people thought a large airliner would cause. Even though the two airplanes flown into the World Trade Center towers were travelling faster at the time of impact than the Pentagon plane was (400 MPH vs. 350 MPH), hit aluminum-and-glass buildings rather than reinforced concrete walls, and didn't dissipate much of their energy striking the ground first (as the Pentagon plane did), they still barely penetrated all the way through the WTC towers.
As eyewitnesses described and photographs demonstrate, the hijacked airliner dived so low as it approached the Pentagon that it actually hit the ground first, thereby dissipating much of the energy that might otherwise have caused more extensive damage to the building; nonetheless, as described by The New York Times, the plane still hit not "just the ground floor" but between the first and second floors:

The Boeing 757 crashed into the outer edge of the building between the first and second floors, "at full power," Mr. Rumsfeld said. It penetrated three of the five concentric rings of the building.
Another account of the crash described:


The plane banked sharply and came in so low that it clipped light poles. It slammed into the side of the Pentagon at an estimated 350 miles per hour after first hitting the helipad. The plane penetrated the outer three rings of the building. The jet fuel exploded, which sent a fireball outward from the impact point. About 30 minutes after the crash, a cross-section of the building collapsed, but only after enough time had elapsed for rescue workers to evacuate all injured employees.

The fire was so hot that firefighters could not approach the impact point itself until approximately 1 P.M. The collapse and roof fires left the inner courtyard visible from outside through a gaping hole. The area hit by the plane was newly renovated and reinforced, while the areas surrounding the impact zone were closed in preparation for renovation, so the death toll could have been much higher if another area had been hit

As the front of the Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon, the outer portions of the wings likely snapped during the initial impact, then were pushed inward towards the fuselage and carried into the building's interior; the inner portions of the wings probably penetrated the Pentagon walls with the rest of the plane. Any sizable portions of the wings were destroyed in the explosion or the subsequent fire.

This whole thing is a big hoax, and a French author also said its a big American lie.

Read it all here: http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

dont forget all that juicy fuel is stored in the wings, kinda helps explain why you cant find them

dont forget all that juicy fuel is stored in the wings, kinda helps explain why you cant find themMore than just in the wings, they are stored near the body of the plane, so if they were hit, they would tend to fold backwards and towards the body of the plane, rather than outwards and rip off completely.

i remember seeing the person who did the film on the news one night. When asked who it was if it was not the terrorists flying the 757 into the building, the man simply replied it was the US government headed by Dick Cheney. That right there was the defining moment that i realized the dude was a world class NUT and conspiracy theorist. has nothing better to do with his time than to make wild assumptions about a national tragedy. he has no compassion for those who lost their lives, and he also could not explain what happened to flight 77 since it "supposedly" never flew into the Pentagon.

i think it was a plane and that is what i am sticking to. i encourage thinking outside the box myself, but some people (the creator of this video) just take it a step too far. just my opinion on the whole thing.

After watching the 2nd plane hit the WTC and seeing it enter on one side, and the compressed debris of the building exiting in vaguely the shape of the plane on the other side, I can easily believe there wouldn't be much plane debris in the Pentagon impact. I was absolutely stunned to watch an entire jet liner disappear into the WTC like that.

My guess is that it worked somewhat like a bullet does; small entry hole, massive exit hole since the bullet is expanding and doing most of it's damage on the way through. The plane that hit the Pentagon was hitting a hardened, reinforced structure so no doubt the initial impact caused compression of the aircraft as the back was compressing into the front while the whole mass was punching through the hardened structure. The compression combined with combustion of the fuel would have practically vaporized the aluminum skin. The collapse of the upper part of E section was probably the result of the impact of the tail section of the aircraft. The main body was a compressed, compacted, disintegrating firey mass punching through the several sections of building. You can see from the photos how the columns inside the building are all bent in the direction of the momentum of the plane's mass.

There's no doubt this was real. At least no doubt to any rational person. But there's always the agenda-driven government haters who have nothing else to do with their lives but see conspiracies in anything and everything. It's sad that they have to do this to give their meaningless lives meaning, while smearing the memories of the victims and the emotions of the survivors.

So if it wasn't a plane how do you account for all the missing people that were "not really on" that plane? And their relatives? An awful lot of people would have to be in on this ruse.

A 757 hit the Pentagon on 9/11....get over it.

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Gave me a headache trying to read this. Run on sentence? LOL

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This again? Isnt it like the 6th time that flash has been brought up?

In the WTC crash, they found the engines that is still recognizable not far from the site. In the Lockerbie incident, a quarter of the forward upper section was also found intact.


First off, one has to consider that the "facts" being used are coming from conspiracy theorists, so it's hard to make any statements based on biased information that may or may not be accurate.

Secondly, if you saw the WTC planes hitting in slow motion, you saw how the plane vanished into the building without any hesitation. But consider that the WTC was an office building with glass windows, not a steel reenforced government building with bulletproof walls. Almost all the damage on the pentagon was due to the jet fuel burning. Just like the WTC, if it wasn't for the fire, the damage wouldn't have been as great.

Look up the Lockerbie plane crash. The plane was blown up mid air in the body area, but when the wings hit the ground, they burned up and had nothing remaining due to the jet fuel.

Five farmes a second, so every 200ms (1000ms/5) will have the airplane travelling about 220 ft.


oh and where did the 200ms number come from you said the plane was going 540 knots (200ms is only 388.76 knots) just curious:D

Find me a piece of a plane in this picture (http://www.apfn.org/apfn/77_photo.htm)

Um that picture was taken days after the impact. Either that or it's an amazing coincidence that there happened to be cranes and dumpsters and cleanup crews just hanging around. Pieces of the plane would've been the first thing gathered up as evidence.

I remember watching an investigation into plane crashes into walls about a year ago and it showed how you couldn't even tell a plane had hit the wall. It was blown into so many pieces it was crazy and it was even going any where the speed that the one was that hit the Pentagon. People are also forgetting that the Pentagon was built like no other building in History!!!

Hey detractors - remember the demise of Value Jet? Whole plane disappeared...and so did the company.