finds something wrong with a security guard wearing a vest but has no heater.

finds something wrong with a security guard wearing a vest but has no heater.

well maybe the vest is keeping him warm

ok maybe I should re word it

Am I the only one that finds something wrong with a security guard wearing a bullet proof kevlar vest but doesn't have a pistol?

there hows that? :D

Maybe he should get a chair too.

ok maybe I should re word it

Am I the only one that finds something wrong with a security guard wearing a bullet proof kevlar vest but doesn't have a pistol?

there hows that? :D


lol i feel dumb...ok i ctually feel the opposite way, id rather police be the only ones with guns...i personally dont feel security guards should have that kind of power...if things go bad they call the police.

lol i feel dumb...ok i ctually feel the opposite way, id rather police be the only ones with guns...i personally dont feel security guards should have that kind of power...if things go bad they call the police.

Well the bottom line is.... if your job requires you to wear a vest.... means its quite possible that someone may blast at you while on the job... So how is he supposed to defend himself? Hes just supposed to get shot up like some moving target?

Either you properly equip them, or you dont put them in that kind of danger to begin with... but don't do it half assed

Well the bottom line is.... if your job requires you to wear a vest.... means its quite possible that someone may blast at you while on the job... So how is he supposed to defend himself? Hes just supposed to get shot up like some moving target?

Either you properly equip them, or you dont put them in that kind of danger to begin with... but don't do it half assed

maybe a shotgun below the desk?

maybe a shotgun below the desk?

Dont know, Feras. Most security guards are up walking around somewhere, not behind a desk, and they're the first target that the bad guys aim at when pulling a heist or other funny business. The guards need to be armed, and with real firearms. I'm not wild about that since many are inexperienced or have other issues, but I sure would not want to be walking around with a badge and a uniform holding just my putz in my hand.

Dont know, Feras. Most security guards are up walking around somewhere, not behind a desk, and they're the first target that the bad guys aim at when pulling a heist or other funny business. The guards need to be armed, and with real firearms. I'm not wild about that since many are inexperienced or have other issues, but I sure would not want to be walking around with a badge and a uniform holding just my putz in my hand.
its the inexpeerience...police and military personnel are trained in tactical combat as well as weapon operation, plus they know when not to use the weapon...i.e. they can pacify a situation without violence...i dont know if security guards are at that level.

Dont know, Feras. Most security guards are up walking around somewhere, not behind a desk, and they're the first target that the bad guys aim at when pulling a heist or other funny business. The guards need to be armed, and with real firearms. I'm not wild about that since many are inexperienced or have other issues, but I sure would not want to be walking around with a badge and a uniform holding just my putz in my hand.

Yup... theres a guard at my office building wearing a vest and no gun.. and I just look at him and think "If I were in his shoes, Id be shitting bricks"

its the inexpeerience...police and military personnel are trained in tactical combat as well as weapon operation, plus they know when not to use the weapon...i.e. they can pacify a situation without violence...i dont know if security guards are at that level.

If they are at that kind of risk... then maybe they should be at that level.... armoured car drivers and dudes that fill up ATM machines arent cops and they are armed (rightly so)

its the inexpeerience...police and military personnel are trained in tactical combat as well as weapon operation, plus they know when not to use the weapon...i.e. they can pacify a situation without violence...i dont know if security guards are at that level.

Those who are retired or moonlighting military or police have the experience, but you're right in assuming that many are just kids without proper training. Some venues should not require guards to be armed, but a bank guard or someone in that situation should be armed (and hopefully properly trained).

I have no problem with people packing guns if they are trained. I personally pack a PPK on me or in my car. I grew up in the country around guns and have great respect for them and what they can do. I just feel saver with one. I couldn't being a guard without one.

I have no problem with people packing guns if they are trained. I personally pack a PPK on me or in my car. I grew up in the country around guns and have great respect for them and what they can do. I just feel saver with one. I couldn't being a guard without one.


interesting choice there mr. bond. 1 of the other 2 to use this weapon right lol.

interesting choice there mr. bond. 1 of the other 2 to use this weapon right lol.
'Til they updated him to a Walther P99 ('bout time too). :p

I worked at a mall years ago and part of my responsibility was coordinating with security and the local PD. Our guards wore armor at the request of the local police. It was meant for two reasons. One it gave the security guard the look of a police officer, which was a visual deterent. Two it gave them added protection in the event a situation got out of hand. Our guys used to get in to fights with shoplifters and vagrants all the time. The vest saved at least one guard's life, that I'm aware of.

'Til they updated him to a Walther P99 ('bout time too). :p



ppk was a nicely concealable weapon, but really too small to do any real damage...right.

Hmmm... I think that any one in the US who wants to purchase and own firearms should be required to attend a training course where they will learn how and when to use their specific weapon. So if you were looking at getting a Browning 9mm you wouldn't be taking a gun safety course with a 38 special or a .22 target rifle as is so often the case now. I think that anyone who would like to have a CPL or CWP (depending on the state) would be required to attend several training courses (similar to law enforcement officer training) before they are issued their license. I think there should be a test at the end too on the laws of lethal force and it should include projectile safety (know your backstop). I think that anyone who can complete these courses and is not mentally unstable, has a mental defect, or is a felon should get their license to them at the completion ceremony. There should be some legislation about renewing the courses as well when someone wants to renew their license.

With these precautions in place this might end up making gun ownership a safer thing for the families and other civillians out there. Also it just might make gang and other some other violence problems all but disappear. LA has something like 500-650 murders a year and thousands of violent rapes a year. The latest trend with gang members is to storm houses and steal the contents while 'terrorising' the homeowners inside. When citizens try to protect themselves (how can the police stop most of these situations before it's too late?) the local law enforcement frown on the civillians. They have even made gun ownership appear as though it is outside the norm and unnecessary. Well I grew up in LA and am very familiar with the violence. I say that places like LA are that way because of the anti-self protection movement. If gangs tried to stop a well armed family from taking their groceries in and stealing the mini-van with kids still inside who will stop them? And how about the case a few years back where a North Hollywood family was taking the groceries up to their apartment when a gun battle broke out between rival gangs. Two babies were in car seats with the mother while the father was taking up the groceries. One of the kids in the Suburban was struck in the leg by a bullet and both were riddled with glass and other debrie. Their mother covered the other baby. Both kids and their parents lived. The gang fight broke out with both sides less than 15 feet away from the unsuspecting families vehicle. I could've hit each one of the perpetrators on my side in essence ending the gun battle. BTW none of the gang members were injured on either side. I think they must've been shooting with their eyes closed. Or maybe shooting through a Subruban isn't the ideal way of hitting your target? This kind of violence is getting worse each year and it's not because of movies or video games... it's because the criminals know that they have a 95% chance of getting away with it.