What would you do if you lived to be 1000 years old? Check out this article..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4003063.stm

Too lazy to read that now since I am studying for finals already. but I have to ask, why would anyone want to live for that long?

avg life expectancy in japan by 2050 will be 100.

I think there will be a point in time when we can "fix" our cells to replicate properly instead of deteriorating as we age, but I'm not sure we can live forever, or even for 1000 years due to all the contaminates in our air and water. The levels of toxins will built up until you die of something other than "old age".

you'd be surprised - when someone dies of natural causes, they usually have a half dozen things wrong with them and any one of them could have caused death.

you'd be surprised - when someone dies of natural causes, they usually have a half dozen things wrong with them and any one of them could have caused death."Dying of natural causes" is a euphemism for "too old to waste money on trying to fix" or "died in his sleep and we don't really care exactly why."

"Dying of natural causes" is a euphemism for "too old to waste money on trying to fix" or "died in his sleep and we don't really care exactly why."
my thoughts exactly

:)

ps; if you eat beef in america, you're not going to live 1000 years. *wink Speed-ER*

Well, I'm not sure what I'd do if I were to live to be 1000. But I do know this.. at least there will be a FI kit for the RX-8 by that time ;)

Well, I'm not sure what I'd do if I were to live to be 1000. But I do know this.. at least there will be a FI kit for the RX-8 by that time ;)

flux capacitor too

flux capacitor too

If I ever hit 70, not only would I be truly amazed, but quite certain I'd be more then ready for the "big nap" by then. :o

The right to choose to live or to die is the most fundamental right there is; conversely, the duty to give others that opportunity to the best of our ability is the most fundamental duty there is.

Does he mean that he not only supports longevity methods, but euthanasia as well? Anyway, did they even think about whether or not the human brain is capable of handling the mental stress of living that long? Also, there goes evolution right out the window.

Id like to live for a while you know so i can play ps9 with the neural interface. It was on a commercial why not let it happen,

There would be at least 10 times more people on Earth. Can Earth sustain that many people?

1000 years old? it's nearly happened before. :)
Once, we know about.

There would be at least 10 times more people on Earth. Can Earth sustain that many people?
Probably not. Time to go put my video game knowledge to use and start the culling. (I'm not violent, I just think violent. :D)

Does he mean that he not only supports longevity methods, but euthanasia as well? Anyway, did they even think about whether or not the human brain is capable of handling the mental stress of living that long? Also, there goes evolution right out the window.Evolution? *laughing* That's been out the window for a long time now. The ill and disabled no longer die in our world (3rd world countries is another matter).


There would be at least 10 times more people on Earth. Can Earth sustain that many people?Population growth is slowing and expected to stop increasing soon. The elderly population will outnumber the young. This all goes out the door if we start living to 1000 years ... but I suspect we can fit in a lot more people, the world isn't all that populated.

Evolution? *laughing* That's been out the window for a long time now. The ill and disabled no longer die in our world (3rd world countries is another matter).
I don't think it has been stopped, just incredibly slowed down since the inception of modern medicine. Longevity wouldn't completely stop it either, just slow it down even more to the point where it might as well be understood as stopped.

I don't think it has been stopped, just incredibly slowed down since the inception of modern medicine. Longevity wouldn't completely stop it either, just slow it down even more to the point where it might as well be understood as stopped.Undoubtedly 'survival of the fittest' no longer takes place. We have medicine to stop germs, viruses, etc from killing off the weak. We fix problems that would otherwise have killed millions. I just don't see evolution taking place in the way it was designed for humans anymore.

Oh, definitely not. Evolution doesn't take place naturally anymore via survival of the fittest, but it does occur in different means.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/faq/cat08.html#Q02

I agree with this.

By the time someone figures out how to stop aging, the World will be like that in the movie Gattaca. Not sure if anyone has ever seen that.. great flick though.

The effect on population growth of viagra is not yet known. We might see an exponential baby boom in the near future. ;)
Population growth is slowing and expected to stop increasing soon. The elderly population will outnumber the young. This all goes out the door if we start living to 1000 years ... but I suspect we can fit in a lot more people, the world isn't all that populated.

GATTICA WHAT A GREAT MOVIE
ITs almost here that age of genes determining your future,

Id like to live for a while you know so i can play ps9 with the neural interface. It was on a commercial why not let it happen,

arnold schwarzenagger was president in a movie about the future...i kinda am interested in seeing that happen.

If we´d live 1000 years, social security would definitely collapse.

1000 years old? it's nearly happened before. :)
Once, we know about.
to what are u referring?

to what are u referring?

biblical reference

I am 1000 already...

If we´d live 1000 years, social security would definitely collapse.
Actually, they claim to keep people youthful, so they can keep working while they're older. So, there wouldn't be a need for retirement stuff.

biblical reference
When will people realize that the bible is just a book.

Yes its Biblical. Course today if we live that long body parts will start falling off way before then. Ever see someone who is 125 years old? Not a pretty site. With our diet of Fast Food no worry, we will be lucky to make it to the 80s. :)

When will people realize that the bible is just a book.


oh my there's the bait and I just can't help but bite. To many who believe in God, the Bible is not just a book but the real Words of God himself. That makes it way different than a book. Yes it was written by men but those men were inspired by God to write it. Its an amazing collection of 66 books and all point to one direction. Ok so now I guess my comments are wrong and that means this tread will be closed.

Ever see someone who is 125 years old? Not a pretty site.
the oldest person on record lived to 120 only.

When will people realize that the bible is just a book.

i bbelieve the rational and the spiritual can work together...but some people believe only in the book...to each his own.

the oldest person on record lived to 120 only.


I took a guess at the longest age in our times.

Thanks

I took a guess at the longest age in our times.

Thanks
he died on his birthday too i believe.

It's sad, when you get old, you basically turn back in to a child and need assistance for everything.
I took a class called population resources nad environment and basically the world will always be around regardless of how many people inhabit it. We are not decreasing population; actually increasing exponentially on a J curve. Look at India and China. People will start killing off each other as it gets overpopulated but the earth will always be there and will regenerate over time but it's gonna get nasty before it gets better.

oh my there's the bait and I just can't help but bite. To many who believe in God, the Bible is not just a book but the real Words of God himself. That makes it way different than a book. Yes it was written by men but those men were inspired by God to write it. Its an amazing collection of 66 books and all point to one direction. Ok so now I guess my comments are wrong and that means this tread will be closed.
Your comments are not wrong in any way shape or form. You can believe what you want just as I can believe what I want. The problem I have with all of that logic is that who is to say what really inspired people to write the bible? How do we really know they had divine inspiration or if there is even such a thing?
I guess that's where faith comes in and at this juncture, I have none. No living person can really tell you why that book was written because they werent there. So from that perspective, it's just a book. The faith you put into that book is what makes it gospel.

The faith you put into that book is what makes it gospel.
Word.

I personally would welcome being able to live to be 1000 or older. All the things you could see, learn, and do. To see the history that happens before your eyes. The wisdom you would gain, and what you could pass on to others. Perhaps a chance to really make a difference in the long run and make this planet a place worth living on again.

Yes we as infants were in diapers and once we get too old to walk to the potty we are put back in diapers. Consider this.

The Culture of Death advances on questions such as these. Once such
considerations are granted a veneer of plausibility, human life becomes
just one more commodity to be bought and sold, given and taken,
depending on circumstances, personal needs, and the demands of the
market.

Civilization cannot endure once the basic dignity of human life is
denied. Developments such as "The Groningen Protocol" are a reminder
that we have learned so very little over the last century. How could a
nation, itself victimized by the tyranny and murderous ambitions of the
Third Reich, now move towards accepting and institutionalizing ethical
guidelines that are virtually the same as those of the infamous Nazi
doctors? How can we allow human life, human eggs, and human dignity to
become mere products for sale and services for hire? Very soon, these
questions will be answered one way or another. Unless current directions
are reset, we will see the killing of infants become routine and the
selling of human dignity transformed into big business. If this is
civilization, what is barbarism?

The Bible states that Methuseluh lived to be over 900 years old. I don't believe it. People have tracked family lines through the Bible all the way back to Adam and Eve and somehow postulated that the Earth is only a little over 6000 years old. I don't believe that either. The Bible is a book. It is a book of guidelines and not absolutes that should be followed to live a spiritually happy life. Don't take it word for word. If you do then explain Adam and Eve. They only had 2 children, both sons. That's it. Cain killed Able which left only 1. How can 1 male popluate a species? He also got married. Who did he marry? Don't take the Bible for absolute.

Evolution will never stop. It always is working. Even with humans. Technology will most certainly alter the course evolution and send it a different way but it won't stop it. To say that we evolve though doesn't necessarily mean we evolved from apes. Evolution implies change. Noticable changes happen over great periods of time. We won't see anything in our life spans.

I personally would welcome being able to live to be 1000 or older. All the things you could see, learn, and do. To see the history that happens before your eyes. The wisdom you would gain, and what you could pass on to others. Perhaps a chance to really make a difference in the long run and make this planet a place worth living on again.

That's nice but only if your body nor your mind age out. ;) Yoda aged pretty well.

And, I'm not as pessimistic as you. I think this planet is a place worth living in now.

I personally would welcome being able to live to be 1000 or older. All the things you could see, learn, and do. To see the history that happens before your eyes. The wisdom you would gain, and what you could pass on to others. Perhaps a chance to really make a difference in the long run and make this planet a place worth living on again.
I don't think we can hold all that wisdom though. Think of all the stuff we forget by the time we get to 40. Then imagine living to 1000. I think the brain has a finite amount of storage space. We would certainly be able to experience everything, but the memories would have to be transcribed in order for us to remember them.

I think this planet is a place worth living in now.
I think it could use a little bit more forced induction. :D

The Bible states that Methuseluh lived to be over 900 years old. I don't believe it. People have tracked family lines through the Bible all the way back to Adam and Eve and somehow postulated that the Earth is only a little over 6000 years old. I don't believe that either. The Bible is a book. It is a book of guidelines and not absolutes that should be followed to live a spiritually happy life. Don't take it word for word. If you do then explain Adam and Eve. They only had 2 children, both sons. That's it. Cain killed Able which left only 1. How can 1 male popluate a species? He also got married. Who did he marry? Don't take the Bible for absolute.

Evolution will never stop. It always is working. Even with humans. Technology will most certainly alter the course evolution and send it a different way but it won't stop it. To say that we evolve though doesn't necessarily mean we evolved from apes. Evolution implies change. Noticable changes happen over great periods of time. We won't see anything in our life spans.


Oh Boy!! here we go again. Another thread about ready to bite the dust from the MODERATOR! We aren't suppose to talk religion! Shucks, than how can I address the items you speak about? PM? The Bible is truth from cover to cover. Just because you don't see the answer in front of you doesn' t negate it. OK? Keep in mind the Adams family married (not a term for the beginnings of procreation) they had children with their sisters. Who said the Adams family stopped with just two children? Hey, non-bibically think about this. Adam was all alone for a spell and then woman was made from his rib. They were the first sex partners and I can imagine that honey-moon lasted a very long time. Eve did not experience pain at popping out babies until old Satan told her she could be like God. So they were having kids and it was more than two. There were sisters in there somewhere and sisters started the procreation with their brothers. That's how the population started. Yes, again, the entire Bible is truth. Now the word for word part in difficult to explain because not all of it is to be taken word for word because in the context of certain areas its using a story or something else and is not meant to be taken word for word. Such as an eye for an eye or if you hand offends you, cut it off. See the point? Ok so lets see how long this tread keeps going. Seems everytime I try to answer something without flaming anyone it gets closed anyway.

oh my there's the bait and I just can't help but bite. To many who believe in God, the Bible is not just a book but the real Words of God himself. That makes it way different than a book. Yes it was written by men but those men were inspired by God to write it. Its an amazing collection of 66 books and all point to one direction. Ok so now I guess my comments are wrong and that means this tread will be closed.

I consider myself an agnostic.
I'm not too hip on the people who are firm doubters or am I fond of the extreme believers.

There is quite a bit of argument in saying that the books all point in one direction, and if it was really the word of god then.. well we would be in dire straights today. So which points in it do we take figuratively and which ones do we take literally? If we were to take it all litterally, well we would still be stoning people in the streets, we wouldn't be touching women because they are "unclean" for several days after being on the rag.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html
http://www.webster.sk.ca/greenwich/bible-a.htm

If I were arguing for god I would argue that the bible was
translated by man, and man is no doubt imperfect. So mans translation is imperfect.
Unless man was the "pen" of god for those 66 books then the wordings would be perfect,
but how many people know Hebrew from 1200-3500* years ago?

*If you take into account the Hebrew testament which was believed to have been written up to 1500 years before jesus)

My personal belief is that the bible is more of a guide.
It has some good teachings about being a good person, good examples on morals and ethics.

Maybe this should be a seperate thread? Or how about a new sub cetegory in the lounge, along with politics heh..

I don't think we can hold all that wisdom though. Think of all the stuff we forget by the time we get to 40. Then imagine living to 1000. I think the brain has a finite amount of storage space. We would certainly be able to experience everything, but the memories would have to be transcribed in order for us to remember them.
Duh! Lacie external hard drives with multiple terabytes of storage :p

Oh Boy!! here we go again. Another thread about ready to bite the dust from the MODERATOR! We aren't suppose to talk religion! Shucks, than how can I address the items you speak about? PM? The Bible is truth from cover to cover. Just because you don't see the answer in front of you doesn' t negate it. OK? Keep in mind the Adams family married (not a term for the beginnings of procreation) they had children with their sisters. Who said the Adams family stopped with just two children? Hey, non-bibically think about this. Adam was all alone for a spell and then woman was made from his rib. They were the first sex partners and I can imagine that honey-moon lasted a very long time. Eve did not experienc pain at popping out babies until old Satan told her she could be like God. So they were having kids and it was more than two. There were sisters in there somewhere and sisters started the procreation with her brothers. That's how the population started. Yes, again, the entire Bible is truth. Now the word for word part in difficult to explain because not all of it is to be taken word for word because in the contect of certain areas its using a story or something else and is not meant to be taken word for word. Such as an eye for an eye or if you hand offends you, cut it off. See the point? Ok so lets see how long this tread keeps going. Seems everytime I try to answer something without flaming anyone it gets closed anyway.
If you took that word for word, doesn't it seem somewhat incestuous that we would have relations with other people?

Duh! Lacie external hard drives with multiple terabytes of storage :p
I wanna place my consciousness into hardware. Then, I could become slightly immortal. :D

If you took that word for word, doesn't it seem somewhat incestuous that we would have relations with other people?


Keep in mind it was a different situation and this was the very beginning of life and the population explosion. Incest wasn't even a word then, there were no laws it was just the Adams family. They had no other way to procreate but to have kids with their bros and sisters. It was normal for folks then to live a very long time. I think perhaps the aging process went much slower perhaps as they didn't farm with chems and germs weren't around as much as well as the illnesses we have today. They might not have got the Flu, cancer, heart attacks and the illnesses as is the world today.

I don't know if I would want to be 1,000 years old in this world. Would be an interesting life story to tell that's for sure. I am not sure the US will make it that long either. I am not sure the Arab countries will last that long. Oil is going to be completely depleted before a 1,000 years and with our knowledge with electricity, science and inventions we will need an alternative power other than from fossil fuel invented in less than 20 years from now is my guess.

Keep in mind it was a different situation and this was the very beginning of life and the population explosion. Incest wasn't even a word then, there were no laws it was just the Adams family. They had no other way to procreate but to have kids with their bros and sisters. It was normal for folks then to live a very long time. I think perhaps the aging process went much slower perhaps as they didn't farm with chems and germs weren't around as much as well as the illnesses we have today. They might not have got the Flu, cancer, heart attacks and the illnesses as is the world today.

I don't know if I would want to be 1,000 years old in this world. Would be an interesting life story to tell that's for sure. I am not sure the US will make it that long either. I am not sure the Arab countries will last that long. Oil is going to be completely depleted before a 1,000 years and with our knowledge with electricity, science and inventions we will need an alternative power other than from fossil fuel invented in less than 20 years from now is my guess.
My friend who is Roman Catholic takes the Bible as metaphor, with many parts not to be taken literally. I agree with this. I believe that the Bible is a good thing. It keeps people in check. I grew up going to Catholic school for 10 years as a kid. It never caught on with me. I knew more about the Bible than my friends did when we were in school. They were raised Catholic at home too. Me, I just decided to settle on my own version of agnosticism and just be nice to other people.

With a longevity vaccine, space travel wouldn't be such a daunting experiment. If we could sustain life indefinitely, years long trips to Mars wouldn't seem so bad. Heck, we could try out Europa to see how it is. It'd be cool, but I keeping the mind in tact would be an excercise. :p

About your trips to mars. We could send them fast enough(say .999C) so that a 20 year trip to Mars is 20 years to them but something like 450 years to us. Time travel anyone?

Time travel with the current physical model is impossible. If we develop a new one that allows it, then we'll talk. Personally, I think that living to be 1000 would eliminate any desire for me to travel in time, so I'll leave it up to you, Aoshi-kun. :D

Time travel with the current physical model is impossible. If we develop a new one that allows it, then we'll talk. Personally, I think that living to be 1000 would eliminate any desire for me to travel in time, so I'll leave it up to you, Aoshi-kun. :D

wormholes son...if you can cut through time space and arrive somewhere 4 light years away by only traveling 1 light year in say two years i think you technically went back in time or something. i mean think about it say earth sends a communique to the place four light years away (takes four years) you'll be there for two years before you get the communication. Faster than light, relativistically you must have travelled in time right...im a financial professional...lol why am i answering this question. :confused:

Social Security is f#$*ed! :D

Not to mention that Timothy Leary predicted this in the 60s.

Do wormholes even exist?

[QUOTE=Luftwaffle]My friend who is Roman Catholic takes the Bible as metaphor, with many parts not to be taken literally. I agree with this. I believe that the Bible is a good thing. It keeps people in check. I grew up going to Catholic school for 10 years as a kid. It never caught on with me. I knew more about the Bible than my friends did when we were in school. They were raised Catholic at home too. Me, I just decided to settle on my own version of agnosticism and just be nice to other people.

Ok, here is a non-Catholic statement.

2000 Baptist Faith & Message
I. The Scriptures

The Holy Bible was written by men divinely inspired and is God's revelation of Himself to man. It is a perfect treasure of divine instruction. It has God for its author, salvation for its end, and truth, without any mixture of error, for its matter. Therefore, all Scripture is totally true and trustworthy. It reveals the principles by which God judges us, and therefore is, and will remain to the end of the world, the true center of Christian union, and the supreme standard by which all human conduct, creeds, and religious opinions should be tried. All Scripture is a testimony to Christ, who is Himself the focus of divine revelation.


enough said

Who said that?

Do wormholes even exist?

i forget where i read it, but it is possible for them to exist created by the massive forces in supernovas and black holes or something. slight tears in the time space thing or something like that.

i forget where i read it, but it is possible for them to exist created by the massive forces in supernovas and black holes or something. slight tears in the time space thing or something like that.
I can picture that happening, but I've never heard of one actually existing. Quantum is a religion. A lot of it goes on faith as well. If wormholes can actually allow faster than light travel, then the classical physics model will have to be revised. Ever heard of Quantum Tunneling? I did an experiment on that back in high school for my Westinghouse (now it's Intel :rolleyes: ). Supposedly, transmissions move faster than light inside a non-conductive medium. I didn't witness this in my experiment though. =T

i forget where i read it, but it is possible for them to exist created by the massive forces in supernovas and black holes or something. slight tears in the time space thing or something like that.

It's all theoretical physics/mathematics. You'll find both supporters and disbelievers of this. To be honest, it would be nice to live until 1000. See how much quill you can poke in that lifespan ;) I couldn't imagine being married to the same woman for that long though.. would get boring....

Who said that?


If you are writing to me its off this web site www.sbc.net Type in Bible in the search option and it pulls up pages of articles. I found that on one of those.

It's all theoretical physics/mathematics. You'll find both supporters and disbelievers of this. To be honest, it would be nice to live until 1000. See how much quill you can poke in that lifespan ;) I couldn't imagine being married to the same woman for that long though.. would get boring....
Hey, watch out, dude. You can still die from disease. You just won't die from running out of telomere. :p

Considering that many women when they reach in their 50s they don't want or desire sex anymore that gives you 950 some years without it!!

Considering that many women when they reach in their 50s they don't want or desire sex anymore that gives you 950 some years without it!!Would they go blind?

That's nice but only if your body nor your mind age out. ;) Yoda aged pretty well.

And, I'm not as pessimistic as you. I think this planet is a place worth living in now.
The only way I would want to be able to live a 1000 years is if I aged gradually throughout the full 1000 years. Even better would be if I could stop the aging process indefinitely. ;)

I wanna place my consciousness into hardware. Then, I could become slightly immortal. :D
I'm all for wetware. Jack me into a machine and let me go. :D

Can we please stop with the religious talk? I don't think it applies to this thread, not to mention it's against forum rules. Take it someplace else and quit getting interesting threads closed. :mad:

I'm all for wetware. Jack me into a machine and let me go. :D

Lawnmower Man here we come!

Can we please stop with the religious talk? I don't think it applies to this thread, not to mention it's against forum rules. Take it someplace else and quit getting interesting threads closed. :mad:


I said something like that first!!! :)

Would they go blind?


LOL LOL No they wound not but we sure might!! Just think of the gallons of Botox needed in all places just to look like we are from 2004!!

LOL LOL No they wound not but we sure might!! Just think of the gallons of Botox needed in all places just to look like we are from 2004!!Maybe John Kerry could give us some pointers... :D

I said something like that first!!! :)
And yet you continued. :rolleyes:

And yet you continued. :rolleyes:I think this is an appropriate place for those comments. There wasn't anything too religious implied that I could see. Anyway it brings up a whole new debate about the human race aging faster as we move further away from Adam and Eve, right? And along those lines if our scientists can do away with the severe aging process where does that leave the Biblical Scholars?

And yet you continued. :rolleyes:


Ok, I usually only continue if someone else does. Hasn't been the first time threads have been closed because of me. I didn't start it, I don't think. ;)

I was waiting for it to be closed however. The next time I'll PM the MOD and ask to have it shut down.

And along those lines if our scientists can do away with the severe aging process where does that leave the Biblical Scholars?
Far away from me with any luck. :p:D

Ok, I usually only continue if someone else does. Hasn't been the first time threads have been closed because of me. I didn't start it, I don't think. ;)

I was waiting for it to be closed however. The next time I'll PM the MOD and ask to have it shut down.
The point is it doesn't need to be shut down. It's an interesting topic WITHOUT the religious rhetoric. :rolleyes:

Far away from me with any luck. :p:DLOL!!! :D :D :D

I had a retort all written up and saved. My connection at work crashes and I come home two hours later. Now the thread goes off in another direction. Oh well, when in Rome.

If I think I won't die, then I won't die. Mind over matter! :D