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He also says "how much do u know about yourself if u've never been in a fight"

Mr2000x says "don't be shy - share"

Hello and welcome to you all :p :)

This is a place to say something, anything about your rx8 auto.

Feel free to share any thought, you may have about your car.

Good points and bad points. How much u love it or hate it.

Problems you may of had or are worried u might have.

How good your car has been or hasn't been to you.

Or just something you would like to share with other rx8 4at owners.

Maybe a pic or 2. Feel free!

Questions, thoughts, comments - share a word with your fellow rx8-ers about your auto! :)

Well in the 4 months that I have had my AT RX8 bad things have happened. Things that were very expensive and NOT Covered Under Warranty.

#1. A week after I bought the car I had to buy a brand new transmission. $4,500

#2. 1 Month after picking it up from the New Transmission the car messed up again. It thought Reverse was Neutral, Neutral was Drive. Those were the only gears messed up. $1,200 for Labor.

They said both times I was abusing the car by Revving in Neutral and Dropping it into Drive.

What kind of stupid person would do that?

Anyways, I still own my 8 and I am proud to say that I do. Just Mazda Service is a b*tch to deal with. :mad:

Simplex

It breaks my heart to hear things like this, i've had mine (japanese import) now for over a year and never had a problem with the tranny!

Glad to hear everythings ok now and your still a proud owner.

I love this car and its great fun to drive:)

Well on a Few Good Notes...

#1. You get alot faster shift with the AT Trans then you would if you had a MT 8.

#2. MPH to Gears - 1st 45mph, 2nd 75 or 80mph, 3rd 115mph, 4th 125mph.

#3. 1st gear at 20mph roll off is enough to blow away some of my friends 320hp Mustang GT's.

The only reason 4th gear goes to 125 is because my 8 has a Governor. :mad:

Makes me mad on those nights you are out with a friend on the interstate and yall decide to go at it.

My friends Sentra SE-R Spec V is amazing for the 2710 lbs, 180hp, 180 lb ft tq, FWD, LSD, no Governor.

That things takes off. But I bet if I had the MT 8 I could keep up with him.

Anyways enough of topic discussion.

Even though I posted things I hate about the AT 8 there are also those things that I like about it. :)

i love this car, the paddle shifts are wicked!!

i've added a dvd,vcd mp3 anything on disc i'll show it player - in place of the dvd rom, so now i can watch movies on the go, although need to add a sub or 2 for low end!
That along with the 6cd changer and minidisc fits nicely as an addition for the auido visual side of the car!

Good news also, im hoping to add a supercharger, instead of the turbo i had in mind for this model so fingers crossed!:)

By the way i'm very curious to know:-

How many of you would install a tried and tested supercharger for your car?

Please let me know if you would consider this an option for your car !:)

As far as a SC or TC goes. I am all out for one on the AT 8.

If I cant get one to work on it. I will just have to trade my 8 in for the MT one.

As soon as I turn 18 (1 year 5 months) I am purchasing one and installing it asap.

I have a quick question for you AT owners. I've heard from somewhere that the auto doesnt rev up to 9500 like the MT can. what can the AT's rev up to? Im looking to buy one within the next month.

8500..

mine changes or beeps (in semi-auto) at 7500. :)

I thought it was 7000 rpms.

Also, this notion has been batted around in numerous threads, but is there really a 125mph governor on the A/T? I don't understand why Mazda would put one on there, considering the top speed is supposed to be 150. I also wonder if that's why acceleration seems excruciatingly slow above 100mph (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=42030).

That aside, I don't really have any major complaints about my 8, aside from the lack of torque/acceleration and the fact that 2nd gear is really tall (I believe the auto tranny version would have benefited greatly from having five gears instead of four). Oh, and the constant nagging I get for buying a "sports" car with an auto tranny (I'm still trying to decide if the 8 is really a sports car).

Listen i know one thing this car is definately a sports car!

About the gears, i was wondering why we don't have 6 let alone 5!

Mines limited to 186kph i think that's around 115 mph odd, but that's understandable since mines an import from Japan and they restrict there by law!

But also mine can hit 186 in 3rd gear, so technically the whole of my 4th gear is cut off. Maybe they should of just sent me a 3 gear auto instead lol!
But jokes aside u can get rid of the limiter.

As for more power there should be a supercharger for this car very soon (fingers crossed) but there is already a turbo for this car which is tried and tested that gives u a boost which will make your auto, faster than the current stock 6-speed.
Although i will say this, i wanted this turbo for my car but would hault at the thought of a supercharger instead!:)

lol.. no offense, but what made you guys want to get auto rather then mt?

Well the auto is cheaper. Who cares if its auto or manual. It is still a RX-8.

Simple my rx8 friend

To play with the paddle shift. :cool:

How sweet to change a gear round a bend without a clutch! :D

To drive and make a sweet quick and smooth gear change with a flick of a paddle. :p

This is different class, even if it is slightly less powerful than the manual.

In my view this car rocks the manual! :p

I really should be asking u why the manual instead of the auto??? :) :cool: ;) :rolleyes:

How do I even respond to something like that?

I love my auto 8 and also have RB exhaust coming next week. I can't wait to hear the sound of it when i get it installed.

I like the paddle shifters a lot but agree, we need another gear. There's a bit of a dead spot in 2nd if you are going around 30mph.

i love using those paddles, but after 3 hours spent at the dealers, my left paddle shifter doesn't always want to shift gears for me. i find myself reving to 6k a lot when i solely use that shifter. its not that great, so i find myself scared to jack up the paddles. anyone had this problem? its only my left paddle for up. everything else works wonderful.
BUT I STILL LOVE MY AUTO 8 :D

Budebaker your problems will be over soon enough, with the option of the supercharger (coming soon), which i must say has excited me a great deal! :D

But meanwhile I'm sure our Waco RX8-er will upload a pic or 2 and if were lucky a soundclip of the new exhaust. :)

Out of interest here, what other exhaust systems did u contemplate on b4 getting the rb and why the rb in the end? :)

Thanks ;)

Here's my dvd play all cd unit :) and also a pic of the only problem i've had with this car after over a year now the sun visor falling apart :( and another of the new Jap sunvisor :)

mr2000x, i choose the rb exhaust because i believe they put out a great product and from the feedback of other rx8 owners that have installed this exhaust. Im sure i would be happy with Greddy or a Borla system, but the rb seems to really be what i am looking for in sound. I will try to work on some pics and possibly a sound/video clip if i can find someone to help me with that.

mr2000x, i choose the rb exhaust because i believe they put out a great product and from the feedback of other rx8 owners that have installed this exhaust. Im sure i would be happy with Greddy or a Borla system, but the rb seems to really be what i am looking for in sound. I will try to work on some pics and possibly a sound/video clip if i can find someone to help me with that.


:) Cool, i was thinking of either getting the r magic titanium tip

coz that's just tuff for looks but sadly i can't seem to find a sound clip anywhere and i really want to hear this b4 i buy,

also the other exhaust that sounds amazing and looks very good is the re-amemiya and you can see this at the following link:

http://www.re-amemiya.co.jp/rx_8/rx_8_2.html

or even better hear it here, in this rx8 run:-

http://www.re-amemiya.co.jp/sound/

there's a few links there,

but this is the one the i think sounds the best: ＲＸ－８走行２

Enjoy :D

here is a link for the rb exhaust sound/video clip

http://www.rx8web.com/showthread.php?threadid=277

here is a link for the rb exhaust sound/video clip

:)
Hmm sounds very smooth, its like it's complementing the rx8 in a sophisticated way.

Interesting.

Any idea of power increase?

Thanks :)

I thought it was 7000 rpms.

7.5K RPM is redline for the AT. However, you can take it to 8K RPM before it hits fuel cut.

Has anyone else made mods on their auto? Post a pic if possible!

Thanks:)

Has anyone else made mods on their auto? Post a pic if possible!

Thanks:)


I am adding K&N Typhoon Intake System & GReddy Exhaust by the time of March next year.

But for now its just gonna be that spoiler im purchasing for X~Mas.

Well in the 4 months that I have had my AT RX8 bad things have happened. Things that were very expensive and NOT Covered Under Warranty.

#1. A week after I bought the car I had to buy a brand new transmission. $4,500

#2. 1 Month after picking it up from the New Transmission the car messed up again. It thought Reverse was Neutral, Neutral was Drive. Those were the only gears messed up. $1,200 for Labor.

They said both times I was abusing the car by Revving in Neutral and Dropping it into Drive.

What kind of stupid person would do that?

Anyways, I still own my 8 and I am proud to say that I do. Just Mazda Service is a b*tch to deal with. :mad:

Simplex

WTH? How could a new transmission a week old not be covered under warranty?

I am adding K&N Typhoon Intake System & GReddy Exhaust by the time of March next year.

But for now its just gonna be that spoiler im purchasing for X~Mas.

Cool, what spoiler have you decided to go for? :)

Pardon my ignorance, but does the spoiler make much of a difference in performance, or is it mostly cosmetic?

Pardon my ignorance, but does the spoiler make much of a difference in performance, or is it mostly cosmetic?

Well check this explanation out, hope it helps u understand the concept. :)

If a car goes fast enough and if the spoiler is designed correctly,

the car will have the opposite of what an airplane has to make it fly.

This is called 'anti-lift'.

The shape of the spoiler causes the car to have more weight due to the flow of air over the spoiler.

So, the faster the car goes the less chance it has of flying/lifting.

Just think of it as downward 'G-force'! :) :p

Hope that helped dude :)

Well check this explanation out, hope it helps u understand the concept. :)

If a car goes fast enough and if the spoiler is designed correctly,

the car will have the opposite of what an airplane has to make it fly.

This is called 'anti-lift'.

The shape of the spoiler causes the car to have more weight due to the flow of air over the spoiler.

So, the faster the car goes the less chance it has of flying/lifting.

Just think of it as downward 'G-force'! :) :p

Hope that helped dude :)

geez... ur just making it harder for people to understand it... simply it's jsut "downforce"

easy enough!?

lol @ RX Renesis:)

Did i go into too much physics there?

my a/t 8...lil old pics but here are a few. I got a 8inch lcd dvd player on dash now but it not in pics.

my a/t 8...lil old pics but here are a few. I got a 8inch lcd dvd player on dash now but it not in pics.


Dude that rear spoiler looks awesome :cool:

looking at the engine bay pic i just realised since yours is lhd, the w/s/washer liquid and brake fluid are on the opposite side to mine, freaky, never seen or thought about that b4 :)

thanks 4 sharing the pics

Well on a Few Good Notes...

#1. You get alot faster shift with the AT Trans then you would if you had a MT 8.

Umm...noooooot quite. I own an AT myself and it takes a little over a second for it to get into the next gear from the moment I shift, and that's if it's feeling up to it. There are some times where it strangely lags and takes over 2 seconds to get into gear, most noticeable if you shift while going down a hill with partial acceleration. If I accelerate down a hill, shift, then release the gas to coast, it just takes forever to get into the next gear, which is definitely one of the bigger annoyances I have with the AT. You can without a doubt shift way faster with a manual, especially if you have a short shifter and pop the clutch on the shift. Probably around half a second for the shift.

The second gear, as others have mentioned, is just stupidly tall. I mean, one gear handling everything from 10 to 70 mph seems a little wierd. Makes it impossible to get good revs out of the engine without blowing speed limits to kingdom come around town. On the upside, it might be good for dragging, as you can probably stay in 2nd while the other guy needs to shift twice probably.

I do enjoy being able to go through twisties without having to worry about a clutch. I doubt I'd be able to coordinate rev matching into a curve with a clutch while going 50. Much easier to just knock the stick and rev match, knowing the next gear will automatically slide in and catch on its own.

I prefer using the stick to shift, because there's practically no way to hit those paddles while going through a tight turn, and, strange as this may sound considering it's an AT to begin with, there's just something boring about pressing a button to shift vs. moving a lever. :p

Umm...noooooot quite. I own an AT myself and it takes a little over a second for it to get into the next gear from the moment I shift, and that's if it's feeling up to it. There are some times where it strangely lags and takes over 2 seconds to get into gear, most noticeable if you shift while going down a hill with partial acceleration.

I prefer using the stick to shift, because there's practically no way to hit those paddles while going through a tight turn, and, strange as this may sound considering it's an AT to begin with, there's just something boring about pressing a button to shift vs. moving a lever. :p

Interesting post. I must say a few things here:

When changing gear in MY AUTO, the gear change is almost instant, for sure there's no 1 or 2 second wait. As soon as i tap the paddle its already in gear.

I would believe though, that, maybe around the world, manufacturers using different parts, build techniques and abiding by governing laws, this could perhaps have a major role with what your referring too.

Some owners here have had many problems with their auto tranny's, where i haven't had one. So obviously somewhere something isn't quite right!

But again there is another thread on this and you can see my views there, but in short, there is no way that an auto is slower in engaging gear as a manual, since in the manual, it's not done automatically but manually!! :mad:

But maybe if your tranny isn't upto speed, and while this could be the case for some, it is certainly not the case for the majority! ;)

About what you prefer to use while engaging gear, whether it be the paddle or stick, this is one of the great things on this car, that make it the car it is. :)

I mean, if u didn't want to change gear yourself, the car would even do that 4 u aswell. :)

Your view about the prefered method to change gear by stick refering to the paddle as boring, perhaps makes me incline to believe, you would have been alot happier in a manual to start with. :eek:

There are some people today that would still go and buy a manual ferrari than go for the F1 gearbox. These people to me have a desired preference, although F1 is always my choice on high end cars with this option. It would be far easier to find a second hand manual ferrari, than it would be to find one with the F1 style gearbox!

If jumping into a Gallardo, what u said about long gears on this car would have u stomped in your tracks. In closing here, i would say in my view, the RX8 auto gears are not long enough, although if i had the option i would ask for one or two more gears rather than longer ones. :D

This is a fab car to drive around, it's probably more fun than most and in my opinion the manual version of this car doesn't even come close 2 the auto! :p

Everyone has a view and i respect yours, here, i have only given mine. :)

Thanks :cool:

i had to get an automatic cuz my wife cant drive a stick :(
i still love it though, one less thing i have to do while driving!

i had to get an automatic cuz my wife cant drive a stick :(
i still love it though, one less thing i have to do while driving!

Glad to hear u still love the '8. :)

Do u ever find yourself feeling sporty sticking it in 'M' and using the paddles, if so what do u think of them?? :) Let us know!

Thanks :)

Thought i'd upload a pic of the dvd player in action aswell, not the best pic but u get the idea :o

By the way i'm very curious to know:-

How many of you would install a tried and tested supercharger for your car?

Please let me know if you would consider this an option for your car !:)


I would.

There seems to be some fellow RX8-ers, who have had problems with their auto transmissions. :(

There are others who haven't had any problems! :)

Due to this being such an important issue, i've created a poll for all RX8 4AT owners to vote in.

This poll will give us an overall picture from around the world, so feel free to vote! :)

The link belows take you there, if this poll moves elsewhere, i will edit this post and redirect!

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=46938

Thanks :)

Of course I wish the auto had 5 or 6 speeds and more power--honestly if it had the extra gears I think that the existing powerband would be enjoyable. I always drive mine in manual mode. Supposedly an auto is in the works for the hi-power and also an SMG tranny for '06. Of course take those rumours with a grain of salt.

I like the fact the auto is about choices, you're not stuck with having to change gears every time you get in the car. I have no disrespect for the manual and I totally understand some folks like to play with a clutch and some don't. I do know that sometimes after a long hard day at work or whatever, it's nice to get in the car and sit behind the wheel and just drive. Then if I want to have a little fun I can take it on over to the manual mode and shift etc. I don't believe that either car is better than the other, nor do I believe a transmisssion defines what a "sports car" is. I'm just grateful I have such an awesome car, sure there is a lot to compare it to, it may not be the fastest car ever, of course it has its problems as does ANY first year vehicle. (thankfully mine has been flawless). what I don't get is that people kept screaming "bring back the rotary bring back the rotary" now that they finally have all I hear is complaining . We should all be grateful we have such an awesome car, owning the 8 is like owning a piece of history regardless of which tranny you have. :)

canaryrx8: have you posted yet to the forgiven.....com site yet? Just wondering. I think I saw one post once.

But again there is another thread on this and you can see my views there, but in short, there is no way that an auto is slower in engaging gear as a manual, since in the manual, it's not done automatically but manually!! :mad:
...

There are some people today that would still go and buy a manual ferrari than go for the F1 gearbox. These people to me have a desired preference, although F1 is always my choice on high end cars with this option. It would be far easier to find a second hand manual ferrari, than it would be to find one with the F1 style gearbox!


A few comments about automatic transmissions - you must have a very rare one that shifts more quickly than a well-driven manual transmission! For the most part, automatics DO shift slower than a manual being driven by someone who is trying to shift quickly.

In an RX-8, there are significant mechanical differences between the auto (referred to by Mazda as "Low-Power") and manual trans engines (referred to by Mazda as "Hi-Power"). The number of ports and intake manifold tracts are different to provide much more power from 6000 to 9000 rpm. Since the auto trans is mechanically incapable of surviving at over 7000 rpm, there was no point in Mazda providing the more expensive manifold system.

The RX-8 has a 4 speed auto (traditional slushbox, torque converter automatic trans, like nearly every Buick etc. of the last 50 years) because it was an off-the-shelf part. Mazda did not have the engineering budget to develop a new 5 speed auto trans in time for the RX-8's introduction. I have posted on this board many times over the past year+ that Mazda will be introducing a 5 speed automatic for the 2006 model year RX-8, and that 5 speed will be able to handle the full 9000 rpm redline (and power) of the hi-power engine (I expect Mazda North America to drop the low-power engine completely when the new auto appears for 2006). They will also be introducing a 6 speed SMG type gearbox at the same time.

Speaking of the forthcoming 6 speed SMG type transmission - your comment about a Ferrari F1 gearbox indicates either that you don't understand that the F1/SMG gearboxes are very different than slushbox automatics, or you are nearly delusional with your wishful thinking! ;) A slushbox like the RX-8s uses a torque converter and a planetary gearbox, as do every slushbox-based tiptronic/geartronic etc. system. It doesn't matter what "-tronic" name you give to the electronic controls, they're still regular old Buick-style slushboxes, that will always be less mechanically efficient than a manual gearbox. The Ferrari F1, BMW's SMG, Toyota's SMT, etc. are true manual gearboxes with regular clutches, but the shifter and clutch are actuated by computer-controlled hydraulic servos.

Regards,
Gordon

canaryrx8: have you posted yet to the forgiven.....com site yet? Just wondering. I think I saw one post once.

Haven't posted there in a while, still visit from time to time just been really busy and swamped with bad luck lately :(

That SMG option is going to be pretty useless unless theyadd some power to this car

An SMG in the RX8 would be a very interesting proposition. How quick would the 'hi-power" RX8 be with a 5spd auto tranny or 6spd SMG? My guess is a mid 6-low 7 second 0-60 car?

- your comment about a Ferrari F1 gearbox indicates either that you don't understand that the F1/SMG gearboxes are very different than slushbox automatics, or you are nearly delusional with your wishful thinking! ;) A slushbox like the RX-8s uses a torque converter and a planetary gearbox, as do every slushbox-based tiptronic/geartronic etc. system. It doesn't matter what "-tronic" name you give to the electronic controls, they're still regular old Buick-style slushboxes, that will always be less mechanically efficient than a manual gearbox. The Ferrari F1, BMW's SMG, Toyota's SMT, etc. are true manual gearboxes with regular clutches, but the shifter and clutch are actuated by computer-controlled hydraulic servos.

Regards,
Gordon

Although i'm happy to hear about the new smg stlye boxes u speak of, i think if your going to quote me you can at least do it in context and not out!

This was the comment before:-

Your view about the prefered method to change gear by stick refering to the paddle as boring, perhaps makes me incline to believe, you would have been alot happier in a manual to start with

I was merely making the point that some people would be suited in a manual rather than an auto-

NOT comparing an smg style box to that of our RX8's auto!!!

By the way Gord96grd what car do u own, a manual or auto?

By the what car do u own a manual or auto?

I guess Gord's liberal use of "slushbox" wasn't a strong enough hint? :D

I would.


Well that's good, because before not to long one will be available from 'down under' which will have jumping in sheer delight. :p

I'll be sure to keep you informed of progress here, but testing stages can get tricky, so be patient - as it is a virtue :)

so with spirits high we eagerly await!

Thanks :)

Hmmmm

Since a few people want to know if the AT 8 has a governor I will make a video the day of X~Mas for yall...

Ill show me going all the way from 0-125 mph to shut off of all fuel.

Im not complaining on the Governor as of I am not driving 125mph at all times.

Its just when I am on an empty Interstate I have the Need For Speed and it needs to be settled.

Hmmmm

Since a few people want to know if the AT 8 has a governor I will make a video the day of X~Mas for yall...

Ill show me going all the way from 0-125 mph to shut off of all fuel.

Im not complaining on the Governor as of I am not driving 125mph at all times.

Its just when I am on an empty Interstate I have the Need For Speed and it needs to be settled.

That would be fantastic if you could do that!

I wonder if you could also do a few runs to show how quick your gears engage with the paddle shifts.

I'm sure there'd be plenty of interest there too! :p :) :D

I went 4 a drive earlier and my gears seem to consistantly engage in under a sec,
so i was thinking perhaps i should make a video of this just to satisfy some curious minds. :)

Your videos would be a great treat, but remember :eek:

Safety First At All Times!

Thanks :)

p.s. Thanks again for your views in the poll, although i was aiming for just happy or sad with the auto tranny

I guess Gord's liberal use of "slushbox" wasn't a strong enough hint? :D

lol

Listen i've seen your sub box and its cool, i was thinking of one like this, but, i saw this one by 4080.

Since you know about these things - probably quite abit more than me!

Do u think this concept would sound good in the car?

Would appreciate any comments, thanks dude :)

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=41513&page=6&pp=15

(when u open the link scroll down to see the pics) :)

You should see if you can rev match on a downshift. If you can, then your car is definitely NOT shifting instantaneously. If it could shift instantly, you would not have time to rev match on a downshift. The 1+ second delay during shifting is what lets me rev match on mine. There's a momentary delay before the lower gear engages where I can freely rev the engine.

You should see if you can rev match on a downshift. If you can, then your car is definitely NOT shifting instantaneously. If it could shift instantly, you would not have time to rev match on a downshift. The 1+ second delay during shifting is what lets me rev match on mine. There's a momentary delay before the lower gear engages where I can freely rev the engine.


Is this the same for when your shifting up a gear aswell? :)

Thanks

That SMG option is going to be pretty useless unless theyadd some power to this car

Like I said - that and the new 5 speed auto will be behind the Hi-Power engine. Same power as the current 6 speed manual. In other markets (ie where they offer the Lo-Power engine with a 5 speed manual as an entry level version), I expect they'll keep it. For North America, at a guess, I think the Lo-Power engine will be discontinued next year.

An SMG in the RX8 would be a very interesting proposition. How quick would the 'hi-power" RX8 be with a 5spd auto tranny or 6spd SMG? My guess is a mid 6-low 7 second 0-60 car?
With the 6 speed SMG, it should be just as quick as the 6 speed manual - as long as they incorporate a launch system for max acceleration (ie to permit a high rpm clutch dump start to emulate a max accel. manual trans start). If that's the case, 0-60 would be around 6.0. I'd guess that a 5 speed auto behind the Hi-Power engine would be high 6 sec 0-60.


By the way Gord96grd what car do u own, a manual or auto?
(It's BRG, for British Racing Green. That's the colour of my 96 Miata - hence Gord96BRG, the handle I've been using on http://forum.miata.net !) I have a 6 spd manual in the RX-8, a 5 spd manual in my Miata, and a 6 speed manual in my Audi allroad wagon. To be honest, I abhor the way auto transmissions shift when I don't want them to, I really dislike the disconnect of the torque converter allowing revs to drop independently of road speed when you let off the throttle, I don't like the lag from pulling a lever to when the shift actually happens, I just don't like the lack of control with an automatic. Fact is, I know better when to shift to suit me better than any automatic I've ever tried. Further, as a mechanical engineer, I have trouble with the idea of a less efficient (mechanically) device that doesn't work as well for me as the simpler, lighter, less expensive manual alternative. I think I could tolerate an SMG-type auto-manual, because it eliminates those concerns, but so far no slushbox has been able to. In my 29 years of driving, I've only owned 1 automatic trans ever (a 1972 Mercedes 300SEL4.5 that I owned from 1980 to 1983). I've driven plenty of automatic rentals and test-driven many various autos since, however, so I'm certainly familiar enough with their characteristics - and to know that those characteristics absolutely do not suit me! ;)

Regards,
Gordon

Is this the same for when your shifting up a gear aswell? :)

Thanks

I typically get a 1 second delay when shifting up, sometimes I get the large 2-3 second delays when I shift up while coasting down a hill. I get a 1 second delay on downshifts, but not the 2-3 second delays. There's not much of a point in revving up while upshifting, so I hope you weren't asking about that.

I test drove a Z4 2.4 with the SMG tranny and while it was not as much fun as a manual--it has its interesting merits--in an RX8 (assuming it would be as good of a tranny as the BMW SMG unit) it would be killer. I definately would trade up to that.

But for now its just gonna be that spoiler im purchasing for X~Mas.

Hey simple, you never did say what spoiler u are getting?? :)

Or is a secret till the pics go up?? ;)

Anyways i'm curious, what have u opted 2 go 4?

my a/t 8...lil old pics but here are a few. I got a 8inch lcd dvd player on dash now but it not in pics.

Dlin, just curious here, but is there any reason why you decided to have all those mods but have the stock 16" wheels?? I personally would have moved up to 18s before making any changes to the body.

Its just when I am on an empty Interstate I have the Need For Speed and it needs to be settled.


Hahaha, that's a trip. I totally know what you mean, though. It sounds like you've already done the 0-125mph test before, but let me know if you find acceleration to be rather slow above 100mph. Seems like manual 8's dont have the same problem that I've discussed before in another thread.

hmm markd... well the thing is i kinda wanted to get rims but didn't know which one i really wanted. I hate the front of the stock look on the 8 soo i had to get a kit and now i am love with it like crazy. Also money was an issue, if i had enough i would get rims + body same time but didn't. Just patience =) rims will be on sometime soon(after winter). Once my wheels are on i will be sure to post pics.

Hahaha, that's a trip. I totally know what you mean, though. It sounds like you've already done the 0-125mph test before, but let me know if you find acceleration to be rather slow above 100mph. Seems like manual 8's dont have the same problem that I've discussed before in another thread.


Well I have gotten my rx8 to burnout at 90mph before.... This was on a simple downshift from 4th to 3rd at 90mph.... You should have seen the look on the guys face that was driving the Mustang Gt when I did it the first time...

I dont find my speed slowing down alot after 100mph... Just around the 120 mph range.

hmm markd... well the thing is i kinda wanted to get rims but didn't know which one i really wanted. I hate the front of the stock look on the 8 soo i had to get a kit and now i am love with it like crazy. Also money was an issue, if i had enough i would get rims + body same time but didn't. Just patience =) rims will be on sometime soon(after winter). Once my wheels are on i will be sure to post pics.

Point taken. I have to admit, at first I didn't care about changing the front end, but the more I saw of the MazdaSpeed kit and even just the appearance package on several 8's here, the more I realized that the stock front end makes the car look small. That's just my opinion. I hear the MS kit is supposed to be pretty heavy, though, and I wouldn't want that affecting the car's speed.

Well I have gotten my rx8 to burnout at 90mph before.... This was on a simple downshift from 4th to 3rd at 90mph.... You should have seen the look on the guys face that was driving the Mustang Gt when I did it the first time...

I dont find my speed slowing down alot after 100mph... Just around the 120 mph range.


Nice!

In regard to the acceleration, I don't over-speed that often (I'm actually beginning to somehow control my on-road aggression--tough thing to do, this being my first sports car), but when I do, I notice acceleration slows from 100-115 as compared to say 65-80. Something tells me that's how most engines probably are, but I'm not one to know any better.

Well I have gotten my rx8 to burnout at 90mph before.... This was on a simple downshift from 4th to 3rd at 90mph.... You should have seen the look on the guys face that was driving the Mustang Gt when I did it the first time...

I dont find my speed slowing down alot after 100mph... Just around the 120 mph range.

:rolleyes: if you say so kid.

First off, I love my Auto RX8 but......

I hate the fact that i've only got 4 gears to play with and really only two as far as reving the engine goes. Rarely do I get a chance to go above 80 (my choice). I wish they had found a 5spd Auto or something along those lines. Mazda knew everyone would bash the Auto, it was a quick stopgap until they could get something else for the tranny.

That said, the Auto is a blast to drive even if it is a little underpowered for a sports car. The car has so many other redeeming qualities, some of which you don't notice until you've had the car for a while. The interior won me over and I still find new things about it that I love. Everyone comments on how nice the interior looks and how comfortable the car is to ride in. The gauges are simply beautiful.

I'd like to put on the exact same kit that the superchanged RX8 had in that issue of Speed. That thing looks like it has teeth.

People who are not happy with their car are always more vocal about it.....

First off, I love my Auto RX8 but......

I'd like to put on the exact same kit that the superchanged RX8 had in that issue of Speed. That thing looks like it has teeth.
.....

If u have any links or pics of this car

i would like to see them,

Also has anyone else had one of those 4080 boxes for the sub installed?

Thanks :)

If u have any links or pics of this car

i would like to see them,

Also has anyone else had one of those 4080 boxes for the sub installed?

Thanks :)

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=31891

Thanks for the link snizzle

I've seen that b4, never realised we were talking about that one,

wonder if there's a full story of that issue on the web somewhere!:)

thanks:)

Thanks for the link snizzle

I've seen that b4, never realised we were talking about that one,

wonder if there's a full story of that issue on the web somewhere!:)

thanks:)

someone posted full scans of just the RX8 section, the very same thread I got that attachment from

For less than $5k leave the six speed rx8 looking at your rear bumper....and many others 4 that matter too :cool:

mr2000x For less than $5k leave the six speed rx8 looking at your rear bumper....and many others 4 that matter too

Can you explain what this is that you added and how it'll affect the performance. I'm kind of new here and I'm trying to learn as much as I can about mods and all of the tech talk. Thanks

Its to slow i tottally wish i wasnt an idiot and have waited for the 6sp

Can you explain what this is that you added and how it'll affect the performance. I'm kind of new here and I'm trying to learn as much as I can about mods and all of the tech talk. Thanks
Thats the Re Amemiya (sp?) turbo system that is for sale in Japan for the Auto. I believe the specs on it were about $5K and 265WHP or so--someone will correct me if I am off on the specs. Its not available in the states yet--but coming.

Thats the Re Amemiya (sp?) turbo system that is for sale in Japan for the Auto. I believe the specs on it were about $5K and 265WHP or so--someone will correct me if I am off on the specs. Its not available in the states yet--but coming.

You can order it directly through them if u really wanted it, although make sure u get a pro to fit it.

The web page says 260 ps 70 up on the stock, add an exhaust system for abit more bhp your flying!

But remember a supercharger from Hymee may not be far away!!! :)

hmm...70 more horses from Stock would translate to mid5sec to low 6 sec 0-60 times with the auto tranny.

Now u get the rear bumper statement about the 6speed :D

Unfortunately maybe not enough to do the same to an M3, u'll need the turbo and a supercharger 4 that lol :)




For Thew a pic of the climate control:-

Update

About the poll:-

Not that many people (only 10) have taken part although i know of two others that had problems and are so far ok!

It would seem (if u can conclude anything from so few votes) that not that many people have had problems, it works out to:

8 out of 12 people are ok and are happy.

Is this good or bad? Well its not 100% but its not that bad either.

Does mazda have a prob with these tranny's or not? I think somewhere there is a problem, perhaps newer models (especially with rumours of smg stlye tranny's on the way) will be 100% reliable.

To conclude i think we all feel that a better tranny with more gears would have been preffered from the start, i'm just glad i have an eight with no real problems so far!

Here is my 8. I will be getting my mazdaspeed kit this january if everything goes as planned and thinking about getting the tein basic kit.

Its to slow i tottally wish i wasnt an idiot and have waited for the 6sp

What an interesting statement.

Well on a Few Good Notes...

#1. You get alot faster shift with the AT Trans then you would if you had a MT 8.

#2. MPH to Gears - 1st 45mph, 2nd 75 or 80mph, 3rd 115mph, 4th 125mph.

#3. 1st gear at 20mph roll off is enough to blow away some of my friends 320hp Mustang GT's.

The only reason 4th gear goes to 125 is because my 8 has a Governor. :mad:

Makes me mad on those nights you are out with a friend on the interstate and yall decide to go at it.

My friends Sentra SE-R Spec V is amazing for the 2710 lbs, 180hp, 180 lb ft tq, FWD, LSD, no Governor.

That things takes off. But I bet if I had the MT 8 I could keep up with him.

Anyways enough of topic discussion.

Even though I posted things I hate about the AT 8 there are also those things that I like about it. :) Keep up w/him you would smoke him. i do it all the time. 6spd., gt, borla, k&n intake, mazdaspeedfly & pulleys, nitrous, brembo fronts just to name some of my mods and still adding

A blurry pic of my inside

does anyone else read all these posts and think...

...does everyone who drives an automatic rx-8 have brain damage or something?

it almost seems like every second post tries to burn the people who man'd up and bought the real sports car for a whopping $2k more. All these lame-ass attempts at saying the *a* is better/faster/smarter/sexier than the *m* are just pathetic.

But at least it provides for some humour. Keep it going.

lets not turn this into an auto versus manual thread.
keep it strictly auto, and for those who have the auto...
why we love it :D

does anyone else read all these posts and think...

...does everyone who drives an automatic rx-8 have brain damage or something?

it almost seems like every second post tries to burn the people who man'd up and bought the real sports car for a whopping $2k more. All these lame-ass attempts at saying the *a* is better/faster/smarter/sexier than the *m* are just pathetic.

But at least it provides for some humour. Keep it going.

I hope yall are not baited into responding to this dudes comments :rolleyes:

To be honest, I abhor the way auto transmissions shift when I don't want them to, I really dislike the disconnect of the torque converter allowing revs to drop independently of road speed when you let off the throttle, I don't like the lag from pulling a lever to when the shift actually happens, I just don't like the lack of control with an automatic. Fact is, I know better when to shift to suit me better than any automatic I've ever tried. Further, as a mechanical engineer, I have trouble with the idea of a less efficient (mechanically) device that doesn't work as well for me as the simpler, lighter, less expensive manual alternative. I think I could tolerate an SMG-type auto-manual, because it eliminates those concerns, but so far no slushbox has been able to. In my 29 years of driving, I've only owned 1 automatic trans ever (a 1972 Mercedes 300SEL4.5 that I owned from 1980 to 1983). I've driven plenty of automatic rentals and test-driven many various autos since, however, so I'm certainly familiar enough with their characteristics - and to know that those characteristics absolutely do not suit me! ;)

Regards,
Gordon

What do you think of CVTs ? Especially the new ones able to handle higher engine power like the one Nissan uses in Japanese market Skyline/G35. BTW Ford apparently does have a 6 speed auto since they will have in the new Five Hundred. Only wish Mazda was associated with the Daimler group, maybe we would see an RX-8 with 7 speed auto from the new SLK :)

Question of control is a matter of preference - I did not particularly like Toyota's SMG in MR2, but definitely liked having the option. However w well designed SMG should be quicker than the manual (number of tests have showed this - plus that is the main reason it is used on rallies). Although I could definitely live with the new SLKs auto - its acceleration is virtually identical as teh 6 speed.

Best regards

What do you think of CVTs ? Especially the new ones able to handle higher engine power like the one Nissan uses in Japanese market Skyline/G35.

I prefer CVTs to auto transmissions - they are lighter, smaller, simpler, and more mechanically efficient. Nissan does offer the CVT here behind the VQ V6 engine in the Murano, and Audi offers CVTs behind their V6 engines since 2002 as well. If I had to drive an 'auto' transmission, I'd definitely pick an SMG first, then a CVT, then a conventional slushbox as a last resort! ;)

On their CVT-equipped cars, Audi offers a shift mode to lock in and simulate gear ratios, so it 'shifts' as you accelerate. That would be my preferred mode, as I much prefer a direct relationship between revs and speed in any given gear, something that torque converters don't do.

Regards,
Gordon

Yeah--CVTs have that motorboat sensation--I prefer the SMG tranny as well.

Well that's good, because before not to long one will be available from 'down under' which will have jumping in sheer delight. :p

I'll be sure to keep you informed of progress here, but testing stages can get tricky, so be patient - as it is a virtue :)

so with spirits high we eagerly await!

Thanks :)
What's the news - I'm patient but not very vitureous a little update helps.

Since this is the thread for us auto owners, have you checked out this thread I have started? ;) http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=49665More tuning to be had this Sunday....:)

Manual vs. Automatic? Can't we all just get along?

:)

As a guy that just came from sport-shifting automatic Acura and now to my manual RX-8, I can totally see why people want autos. Not that I mind my manual at all - it's only my 10th car in my life to have a manual - not like I dislike manny's but autos do make driving life a touch easier, that's for sure.

Now, don't get mad at me for saying this - but sportshifting automatics are great - you got your mild side (full auto) for when you're tooling along, sipping a starbucks, in traffic, and your wild side (paddle shifting) for when you want to leg through the twisties. Mild side/wild side ... sort of like having a mullet!

:)

Just joshin' ... enjoy the slushbox! I thought long and hard about it. But then my clutch foot said it was lonely.

Stew

Lets all cut the bullshit here. Fact ofthe matter is we need a turbo kit evenmore so than the 6spd manuals do.

Lets all cut the bullshit here. Fact ofthe matter is we need a turbo kit evenmore so than the 6spd manuals do.
I don 't know how unhappy you are with the available power, but the low end is my complaint. I don't plan to race this car and do not believe any one would buy an auto to race so my top speed of 145 is OK with me, I'd just like to get to it there faster.

I am not an expert and must rely on "people who know" but I have been told we do not want a turbo we want a super-charger. There seem to be several people out there developing a super-charger. The problem being the developers do not feel that there are sufficient numbers of auto 8 owners in the market for the item and are not planing a kit for us at this time.

If we could get several of the auto 8 owners to contact the developers and show that it is needed and that we would purchase the super-charger if available we would see it sooner.

Well--RE-Amemiya has a kit for auto--I don't think it is for sale in the states yet though. Besides--I don't plan on doing anything major until my warranty is up anyway--and even then I may just trade into the SMG or 6spd.

Well in the 4 months that I have had my AT RX8 bad things have happened. Things that were very expensive and NOT Covered Under Warranty.

#1. A week after I bought the car I had to buy a brand new transmission. $4,500

#2. 1 Month after picking it up from the New Transmission the car messed up again. It thought Reverse was Neutral, Neutral was Drive. Those were the only gears messed up. $1,200 for Labor.

They said both times I was abusing the car by Revving in Neutral and Dropping it into Drive.

What kind of stupid person would do that?

Anyways, I still own my 8 and I am proud to say that I do. Just Mazda Service is a b*tch to deal with. :mad:

Simplex

What the hell dealership did you take it to that they wouldn't warranty tranny problems?! I know your car wasn't out of warranty at the time, was it?

They should NOT discriminate against they way someone drives a car when it comes to warranty claims! They don't even have proof you did anything.

My RX-8 had to have the 2nd-3rd and 3rd-4th synchros replaced which they covered under the warranty and they KNOW I do bracket drag racing and autocross it.

Sounds like you got taken. :( Just know that each dealership is it's own entity and they are not run by MNAO and though MNAO reps are required to audit dealerships regularly, not all dealerships are interested in preserving the sanctity of the Mazda brand name.

Oh, and ON topic (:p) anytime I get the chance I love to drive the auto RX-8s just because the paddle shifting is the coolest. :cool:

(mine is a 6spd)

Hey Mazdaspeedgirl,
What kind of problems where you having that lead to the replacement of your synchro's?
Thanks,
WES

A rather painfully obvious gear grinding when shifting.

It miraculously started one day, at the frequency of about every 20th shift or so. Me being the curious monkey that I am, I kept driving her for several hours shifting amongst all the gears. I always knew it would grind when shifting from 2nd to 3rd at ~8500 rpm shifts when i drag raced, but the 3rd to 4th grind was all the time regardless of rpm or slow or quick shift.

The next day, the frequency increased dramatically to where it grinded EVERY 3rd-4th shift. *ouch* So I took her in and had them replace not only 3rd-4th syncros, but 2nd-3rd syncros as well as 3rd and 4th GEARS. They were very understanding in that I didn't want those old gears in there. :)

Is you 6spd having problems?

hey all

just got back from some seriously needed 8 weeks of pure party time.

i'm on the case to find out how close we are to the supercharger 4 the auto, so please do keep posted will update as soon as i have the word.

Kinda missed the '8 since i was gone. Needed 2 recharge the battery when i got back, but apart from that, it was just as i left it:

sleek
silver (and abit)
slow.
i love it!

Woah!

I'm not the only A/T 8 owner?!

:D

I love it. I LOVE my 8.

no, your not the only one there's loads of us!

I'm another.
And I'll admit there are times when I'd love to have a stick -- but being stuck in heavy traffic is not one of them.
If this was solely a weekend car for me, I'd have gone with the manny.

A rather painfully obvious gear grinding when shifting.

It miraculously started one day, at the frequency of about every 20th shift or so. Me being the curious monkey that I am, I kept driving her for several hours shifting amongst all the gears. I always knew it would grind when shifting from 2nd to 3rd at ~8500 rpm shifts when i drag raced, but the 3rd to 4th grind was all the time regardless of rpm or slow or quick shift.

The next day, the frequency increased dramatically to where it grinded EVERY 3rd-4th shift. *ouch* So I took her in and had them replace not only 3rd-4th syncros, but 2nd-3rd syncros as well as 3rd and 4th GEARS. They were very understanding in that I didn't want those old gears in there. :)

Is you 6spd having problems?

nope no grinding...get it check out before serious damage occurs

So i've been ordering a few things for the car....

this is to accompany the blinder extreme laser jammer (should be arriving this week), it's beltronics lastest radar detector. Haven't had a chance to use it yet will let u know how it goes. I'm hoping to install the jammer with some sub work that's getting done will post picks as i go along! :rolleyes: :)

I just installed my Borla last weekend. Love the sound. This is the way the stock exhaust should have sounded, nice and throaty..:D

So i've been ordering a few things for the car....

this is to accompany the blinder extreme laser jammer (should be arriving this week), it's beltronics lastest radar detector. Haven't had a chance to use it yet will let u know how it goes. I'm hoping to install the jammer with some sub work that's getting done will post picks as i go along! :rolleyes: :)

Why would you need a laser jammer for an AT RX-8? :p

Why would you need a laser jammer for an AT RX-8? :p

im curious.....

......rolling together at 50mph up a hill side by side, would more torque or more horsepower take you to the top of the hill first?

I never knew there was a thread for "autos-only." Too cool.

Plain and simple for me. The choice was easy. I love driving a stick - yes, it is fun. But I would much rather have a free hand when I drive to drink coffee, soda or water, talk on the phone, etc., than to have to shift; especially when there is a lot of traffic.

Oh..and besides the drinking and the phone, when my wife is in the car, I have a free hand for her.

Let's see...free hand for my wife.....or a stick shift.

Easy choice.

im curious.....

......rolling together at 50mph up a hill side by side, would more torque or more horsepower take you to the top of the hill first?

The 6MT does :P

I never knew there was a thread for "autos-only." Too cool.

Plain and simple for me. The choice was easy. I love driving a stick - yes, it is fun. But I would much rather have a free hand when I drive to drink coffee, soda or water, talk on the phone, etc., than to have to shift; especially when there is a lot of traffic.

Oh..and besides the drinking and the phone, when my wife is in the car, I have a free hand for her.

Let's see...free hand for my wife.....or a stick shift.

Easy choice.


Nice, well said!

The 6MT does :P

What's funny is,

i'm sure you really thought about your answer first. :cool:

What's funny is,

i'm sure you really thought about your answer first. :cool:

Let's see... 5 more ft/lbs of torque and really looooong gearing vs 40 more HP... Yep. :)

mr2000x, you make me laugh. Still livin' the dream. The stock AT 8 is slower than the stock MT 8 in EVERY respect, in EVERY situation. It doesn't matter if you're going up a hill, going down a hill, or going around a corner.

If you don't believe me, find a friend with an MT 8, go to the track, and see what happens.

mr2000x, you make me laugh. Still livin' the dream. The stock AT 8 is slower than the stock MT 8 in EVERY respect, in EVERY situation. It doesn't matter if you're going up a hill, going down a hill, or going around a corner.

If you don't believe me, find a friend with an MT 8, go to the track, and see what happens.

I think he was making a joke...

From reading this thread, I doubt it Ike...he seems to be delusional about a lot of things.

From reading this thread, I doubt it Ike...he seems to be delusional about a lot of things.

Abit harsh, exactly what else am i delusional about? :confused:

Let's see... 5 more ft/lbs of torque and really looooong gearing vs 40 more HP... Yep. :)


I thank u 4 your input makes better reading! :)

After reading this thread its coo to see its about auto 8s but i dont agree with many of things the paddle shifters are cool in all but all it really does for me is make me more pissed about not getting a stick. The stick is much much faster in every possible way but i still love my 8 but that said next time i will be a bit more patient an get the mt without even thinking about it.

Abit harsh, exactly what else am i delusional about? :confused:
Well for one, the fact that Autos shift faster than a properly driven Manual. Good thing Gord was around to promptly squash your thoughts on this. :rolleyes:

Would you like me to continue...?

From reading this thread, I doubt it Ike...he seems to be delusional about a lot of things.

I see what you mean, I hadn't read anything in this thread in a long time.

Well for one, the fact that Autos shift faster than a properly driven Manual. Good thing Gord was around to promptly squash your thoughts on this. :rolleyes:

Would you like me to continue...?

Firstly i don't think much of gord or most of what he says, but hey, that's just my opinion. I still stand by what i said, stock cars-the auto will engage a gear quicker but again in my opinion. But ok i could be wrong - like it makes a real difference anyways, but please go on what else am i delusional about?

The fact that you, some random guy whose comments are full of auto fan-boisism, don't think much of Gord, an admin on this site, who always posts insightful comments (in proper English) about things that many people were unaware of, is humerous.

And I will go on...just have a meeting to go to first.

Actually its SMG transmissions that shift faster--Automatics have torque converters as well as fixed gear ratios.

The fact that you, some random guy whose comments are full of auto fan-boisism, don't think much of Gord, an admin on this site, who always posts insightful comments (in proper English) about things that many people were unaware of, is humerous.

And I will go on...just have a meeting to go to first.

Yeah whatever dude, but not all my cars are auto or smg i do have manuals too. So your assumptions are just unfounded. Prefer the F1 gearbox to all of them though yeah! (if u catch my drift). And refering to my English, at least i have possession of a degree in the language. ;) :)

Can't wel all just get along? :confused:

I love my AT. Yes, it's not as fast as an MT. But it's a hell of alot more fun to drive then my wife's corolla :)

I second that: Let's all get along. We may never agree on which car is the best, but that's ok. Each car has it's own strengths and weeknesses.

MT Advantages:
Faster, faster, faster
Stick shift has a more sporty feel

AT Advantages:
Better in stop-n-go traffic
Better for drinking lattes
Better for talking on phone
Better for curvy roads with super-frequent shifting
Better for cranking the stereo (when you can't hear the engine)
Better for when someone else might need to drive
Paddle shifters are like playing a video game

Either way, you get:
Excellent handling
Cool looking car
Great interior

I second that: Let's all get along. We may never agree on which car is the best, but that's ok. Each car has it's own strengths and weeknesses.

MT Advantages:
Faster, faster, faster
Stick shift has a more sporty feel

AT Advantages:
Better in stop-n-go traffic
Better for drinking lattes
Better for talking on phone
Better for curvy roads with super-frequent shifting
Better for cranking the stereo (when you can't hear the engine)
Better for when someone else might need to drive
Paddle shifters are like playing a video game

Either way, you get:
Excellent handling
Cool looking car
Great interior

Great summary, everyone needs to remember both cars are still RX8 at heart. I think we could all agree that Mazda rushed the AT out to appease the rest of us which is fine.... but it would be nice to have the high power engine connected to an AT no matter how you look at it.

Hiya all



We have to keep this thread and others specifically to auto drivers thriving with e-energy!

If as auto drivers we're going to make a stand and get noticed it's our obligation.

I'm going to try and push this thread as much as possible so please help and keep the.............

.................'we want an auto forum' alive!!!

Alot has been said in this thread, but from now on i will try and keep it in a more positive and mature manner and with your help, keep it informative to any auto rx8 driver, so please help by discussing anything and everything as a 4AT owner ok!!

There is no reason why this thread shouldn't almost always be in the new post area!

By doing this we will make a difference!


So Thanks to all the auto drivers in advance for helping with this :)



So here is my input for the day:-

I've recently upgraded my audio system and thought i'd share a pic or two and will show the final pics soon.


Remember to discuss everything and anything with your 4at rx8 in here from now on!

that is real nice

love the rotary design

nice setup, how much did that set you back? give us some specs on your design

on an unrelated note, anyone tried the new RB intake on an AT???

I plan on getting it in a couple of months--maybe I'll be the first--the reason it is listed 'for M/T only" is simply because they don't have an auto to mount it to--therefore they technically don't know what to expect.

I plan on getting it in a couple of months--maybe I'll be the first--the reason it is listed 'for M/T only" is simply because they don't have an auto to mount it to--therefore they technically don't know what to expect.

Yeah it seems like this is the only intake worth getting, and of course it's as expensive as a mother. I've noticed the Borla exhaust says the same thing.... MT only.

Luckily exhaust and intake are interchangeable on the AT and MT--its for the respective companies liability and marketing purposes why they only say MT--they just don't have any ATs to test them with.

Sidenote--I wonder what the market share of A/T vs. M/T on the RX8 is? Funny thing is I've seen more A/T RX8s than M/Ts--I'm sure that that is not indicative of the sales though.

Yeah i'm just worried about adding these things to the car and actually getting a decrease in power. I've seen this mentioned in reference to the RX8... it's almost like they've rung most of the power out of the renesis already... I wish I could say I have 200 HP though :D

How do you see more AT than MT, there is no visual difference from the outside... i'm assuming you mean parked somewhere. I don't see the AT much when I peek in at the shifter area or the steering wheel.

Well--I mean from peaking in while they are parked as well as when I'm in my Millenia or when in my dad's Grand Cherokee. Sidenote--the only external way to tell is the absence of the 2nd oil cooler on the A/T vs. the M/T.

Well--I mean from peaking in while they are parked as well as when I'm in my Millenia or when in my dad's Grand Cherokee. Sidenote--the only external way to tell is the absence of the 2nd oil cooler on the A/T vs. the M/T.

That's true, while hard to see on the road.... that is a way to tell externally.

I have had a RB exhaust for 2 months and the REVi RB intake for 2 weeks. Both make a noticeable improvement in response, performance and sound. If you have had the RB products installed and the N-flash done , you will have a different beast on the road. There is no reason our RX-8 at's can't experience the same improved performance the mt 8 does.

How is yours driving after the RB intake/exhaust combo? I am having the hardest time getting the N Flash--the dealer claims there isn't one :mad: With the RB intake/exhaust--how much power would you say it has--8-10HP? Butt dyno feeling?

Hey guys:

I'm running a Borla catback, K&N Typhoon intake, and CZ unit in my auto. No decrease in gas mileage and pulls much stronger than a stock auto 8. I'm waiting for the new intake from K&N to replace the current Typhoon intake. :)

nice setup, how much did that set you back? give us some specs on your design.....


Thanks dude,

running x2 rockford fosgate T110d2 subs, powered by a rockfordT10001d amp connected to a remote para punch eq w/variable frquency ang gain controller. I still have a few bits left to arrange but basically the setup so far has cost me $3300.

The system does sound good but i'm wonerding how much better it would of sounded with the punch subs instead of the power, but no real complaints its good sounding bass is enough 4 the stock bose.

How is yours driving after the RB intake/exhaust combo? I am having the hardest time getting the N Flash--the dealer claims there isn't one :mad: With the RB intake/exhaust--how much power would you say it has--8-10HP? Butt dyno feeling?

It drives great. With the RB setup you can tell by feel and sound it is breathing better. If i had to say a HP increase 8-10HP would be a good number. After i had the N-flash done I ran a a data log of the AFR's and from 2k-5000 they were almost perfect 13.2-13.7 Anyone that doesnt have the N-flash should print out the tsb and tell the service writer you are experiencing hard starts, even if it hasnt flooded. Ask for the service manager. Insist they show you your flash level. There are threads here that can tell them how to do that. And then after they say they did it, ask them to show you again which flash your pcm is at. Its your car and they directed to keep it at the latest level.

Folks, I have a 2004 AT and I'm wondering about performance. Mine seems to be painfully slow off the line. I mean Mini Van slow! Once it gets up in rev's it starts to go pretty good, but forget about even the slightest hint of tire squeal from a standing start even with the Traction Control switched off.

Whats everyone elses experience?

Folks, I have a 2004 AT and I'm wondering about performance. Mine seems to be painfully slow off the line. I mean Mini Van slow! Once it gets up in rev's it starts to go pretty good, but forget about even the slightest hint of tire squeal from a standing start even with the Traction Control switched off.

Whats everyone elses experience?

If you're deliberately racing someone, it's probably slow. In everyday use though where nobody's racing, I haven't had a problem creating a humongous gap between myself and cars behind/beside me from a stoplight just driving normally. Maybe people just drive slow around here in Hawaii. :confused: Basically, I've never been in any "danger" of not being able to overtake a car or accelerate fast if needed.

I do always keep it in tiptronic mode though which lets me keep it in second gear for most of my city driving. I'm usually crusing at 3000 RPMs in 2nd, so it's no problem for me to wind the rotary up into its powerband if needed. If you're in full AT mode and drudging along in overdrive, then yeah I can see you having a problem with suddenly getting a burst of power when needed.

Folks, I have a 2004 AT and I'm wondering about performance. Mine seems to be painfully slow off the line. I mean Mini Van slow! Once it gets up in rev's it starts to go pretty good, but forget about even the slightest hint of tire squeal from a standing start even with the Traction Control switched off.

Whats everyone elses experience?
You might want to check out this thread I started for tuning the auto 8 with a CZ unit. It will NOT make your 8 a tire-smoking Vette eater, but it will improve the performance of the stock auto 8.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=49665&page=1&pp=40

Another good thing about the padel shifters.. just think of them as laser triggers when some idiot cuts you off.
On a more serious note....
My left knee is a lot happier in stop and go traffic.

"Another good thing about the padel shifters.. just think of them as laser triggers when some idiot cuts you off. "

Are you serious? Thats exactly what I want to do in my 30K dollar car, zoom around traffic upshifting randomly and going "MEWWP MEWWP MEWWWWP MEWWWP TAKE THAT EVO-OWNER!" at anyone who is driving something faster than me. (which is virtually everyone, except for a few hybrids, and maybe a couple older trucks)

But given the mentality of most the 8 owners, what with "lets add an intake and exhaust so it'll sound cool" I can't say I am surprised at that sentiment.

I have an idea, how about you just sit in your car and go "VROOM VROOM" and we can pretend its fast! You'll save hundreds! Or hell, just sit on your couch and make all the noises you want, and it wont even cost you 200 bucks a month in gas!

"Another good thing about the padel shifters.. just think of them as laser triggers when some idiot cuts you off. "

Are you serious? Thats exactly what I want to do in my 30K dollar car, zoom around traffic upshifting randomly and going "MEWWP MEWWP MEWWWWP MEWWWP TAKE THAT EVO-OWNER!" at anyone who is driving something faster than me. (which is virtually everyone, except for a few hybrids, and maybe a couple older trucks)

But given the mentality of most the 8 owners, what with "lets add an intake and exhaust so it'll sound cool" I can't say I am surprised at that sentiment.

I have an idea, how about you just sit in your car and go "VROOM VROOM" and we can pretend its fast! You'll save hundreds! Or hell, just sit on your couch and make all the noises you want, and it wont even cost you 200 bucks a month in gas!
Dude take a chill pill. I think 09Factor was just kidding. I guess I have the "mentality of most 8 owners" cause I did indeed add an intake and exhaust on my auto 8 and a CZ unit.

Like teh saying goes... if you have nothing nice to say....:rolleyes:

"Another good thing about the padel shifters.. just think of them as laser triggers when some idiot cuts you off. "

Are you serious? Thats exactly what I want to do in my 30K dollar car, zoom around traffic upshifting randomly and going "MEWWP MEWWP MEWWWWP MEWWWP TAKE THAT EVO-OWNER!" at anyone who is driving something faster than me. (which is virtually everyone, except for a few hybrids, and maybe a couple older trucks)


You wouldn't happen to be a reporter would you, because you seem very good at leaving out relevant parts of quotes: ie "on a more serious note"

:D

I just added missiles too. :p My friends Evo blewd up good.

I'm also am guilty of the "add an intake and exhaust" comment. No CZ yet because of cost.

Damn! This is where I belong!!!
So sad to say I just found this forum today. It's been hidden (sort of) and it's way way down the webpage. Cheers to all the paddle shifters!!! (lazy bums just like me!!!)

'Cuse me if I missed out, but have any of you guys installed one of those piggyback ECUs? I'd really like a full report!!! Give it to me!!!

DJRX8:


Check out this thread for a full report on the CZ piggyback ECU. I was the first to tune it with my auto 8. :D

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...65&page=1&pp=40 (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=49665&page=1&pp=40)