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Renesis08
05-16-2003, 11:49 AM
This is from Japanese Mag-X. A concept design of the new 7. Any thoughts?

JTek_55
05-16-2003, 11:52 AM
I like it better than all of the other concept photos/pics I have seen. It seems to flow better than the rest.

Wolverine
05-16-2003, 12:06 PM
Very nice! Won't have enough room in the back for the other mutants, I...I mean kids...yeah, thats what I meant...kids...hehehe!:p

Merciless
05-16-2003, 12:09 PM
doesn't it look like a vette front end?

waht, are they start to copy each others' design, the bubble roof..the styling....

santino
05-16-2003, 12:14 PM
it looks like a Honda design...the front end, at least. i see an Acura CL/ TL in there.

i doubt that the new 7 will look like that.

santino

wakeech
05-16-2003, 12:26 PM
the doors: FD. completely uncreative.

the lights: PLAIN WRONG... they're pop-ups. :p

the grill: just totally ugs... who the hell would buy a car that looked like that?? it's like a jigsaw attacked a 6...

the contours on the boot lid: looks like they're shaping it to look like an MR-S... meh.

the stupid port window: never has an RX-7 had a static port window behind the doors... they're (obviously) trying to draw this from a pic of an RX-8.

the rear glass: again, too RX-8... the RX-7 will have a fast-back hatch... i don't know what this guy's thinking... oh well, he's just not an RX kinda guy i guess....

...at least he got the C pillar right.

pmacwill
05-16-2003, 01:26 PM
Originally posted by wakeech


the lights: PLAIN WRONG... they're pop-ups. :p



I don't think you'll ever see pop-ups again. They were just a big mistake IMHO

billdo
05-16-2003, 01:31 PM
Looks like a two door 6 on steroids. I really wish mazda would give the 2 door rx8 photo chop floating around here a look as a possible basis for the new 7. I am not saying copy it, but it would make a hell of a starting point.

wakeech
05-16-2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by pmacwill


I don't think you'll ever see pop-ups again. They were just a big mistake IMHO

noooooo!! the pop-ups MUST stay... if they don't, i'll seriously, honestly cry, and never aspire to own such a false RX-7...

besides, the pop-ups help with the minimum-height laws for the headlights, without spoiling the shape of the car.

santino
05-16-2003, 02:09 PM
the pop-ups help with the minimum-height laws for the headlights, without spoiling the shape of the car

that is a good point. look at what happened to the NSX headlamps now...completely ruined the front end styling.

mazda could always design low-profile pop-up lamps, for those who don't like the "barn doors". me...i always liked the pop-up lamps. i always like to see them come up at night, as if the car is saying to me " i am awake".

santino

tallguylehigh
05-16-2003, 02:20 PM
The discarding of the NSX's pop-ups were only due to a weak attempt to freshen the NSX. Non pop up lights were added to a body designed to have pop up lights, thus the massacre (I agree).

Odds are the headlights will be fixed. They are lighter and less complicated than pop-up units. Isnt that the point of the RX-7 anyway?

The grill was a hack job. I doubt you will see this thing on the production RX-8.

All in all, I would give this design a C+. But I will also say that I highly doubt this design looks like the future RX-7. Just my $.02.

wakeech
05-16-2003, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by tallguylehigh
Odds are the headlights will be fixed. They are lighter and less complicated than pop-up units. Isnt that the point of the RX-7 anyway?

heh heh, no, i don't think "less complicated" is a priority for anything in the RX-7's ;) (see: 13BREW)

HottRodder
05-16-2003, 03:23 PM
The new C6 vette is said to do away with pop-up hidden headlights in favor of greater aerodynamics and less wind noise. You may or may not know that pop-up headlights have been a vette trademark for many, many years. Like the round tail lights. Sometimes you just gotta move on.

wakeech
05-16-2003, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by HottRodder
The new C6 vette is said to do away with pop-up hidden headlights in favor of greater aerodynamics and less wind noise. You may or may not know that pop-up headlights have been a vette trademark for many, many years. Like the round tail lights. Sometimes you just gotta move on.

NEVAR!!!

are you saying that the RX-7 should give up on the rotary engine in favour of better emissions and fuel economy?? would i "just have to move on"?? ;) ahaha... just ribbin' ya.

really though, the car shouldn't change: pop up lights, hatch back with big wrap-around glass, two rotor wankel, killer rear suspension, hot looks, 2 seater, hard top. just can't beat it. :D

danger
05-17-2003, 03:39 PM
looks like an amalgamtion of the rx8 (front end), mazda 6 (lights), and toyota MRS body style.

RX-3_13B_Tommo
05-17-2003, 07:15 PM
reminds me of a Toyota MR-2, i.e the styling around the back.

Gord96BRG
05-17-2003, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by santino
mazda could always design low-profile pop-up lamps, for those who don't like the "barn doors". me...i always liked the pop-up lamps. i always like to see them come up at night, as if the car is saying to me " i am awake".

Actually, pop-ups are pretty much illegal these days - at least no new car will ever have pop-up lights again - they can't meet the new Euro pedestrian collision regulations.

Regards,
Gordon

Gord96BRG
05-17-2003, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by MERCILESS
doesn't it look like a vette front end?

waht, are they start to copy each others' design, the bubble roof..the styling....

That's funny, since the C5 Vette stole the front end styling from the FD RX-7!!!

Regards,
Gordon

ilovepotatos
05-18-2003, 12:59 AM
You know when the FD came out, you said..."Holy Shit! Theres a car!" when you saw the concept images. It blew you away and it was like <b>Nothing you've seen before</b>. Key there. Reading everyone's posts, they say reminds me of this. Reminds me of that. This will not be anything close to the final product as it has the front of a 6, rear of a vette and the overall shape of a hard-boiled egg gone horribly wrong. This picture looks more like cartoon than a sketch. I'd rather drive to work in a hot wheels thank you very much.

Renesis08
05-18-2003, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by Renesis08
A concept design of the new 7.

Like I said. It's a concept, just as the evolv was. I'm pretty sure everyone that saw the evolv had their coments about it and look how the eight turned out. Only time will tell.

REX8
05-18-2003, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by danger
looks like an amalgamtion of the rx8 (front end), mazda 6 (lights), and toyota MRS body style.


And the F360 style front bar :D

m477
05-18-2003, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by wakeech


noooooo!! the pop-ups MUST stay... if they don't, i'll seriously, honestly cry, and never aspire to own such a false RX-7...
Well, then get your Kleenex ready. :p

I'll miss them too, but I'd bet on it that they're not gonna be on the gen 4.

santino
05-18-2003, 08:32 PM
That's funny, since the C5 Vette stole the front end styling from the FD RX-7!!!


nice one.

same Gordon from the Miata forum, correct?

santino

neit_jnf
05-18-2003, 08:56 PM
I just love the FD body style so much that I would be very happy with a just slightly upgraded body design, turbo or supercharged or higher displacement Renesis engine, upgraded suspension and luxury/safety thingies... Or I may just go and buy a used FD and play with it!

danger
05-19-2003, 03:45 AM
you think they're going to forget about FI, and just go with a monster 3 rotor?!?

i hear rumours of the new supra being a 3.5L V6 n/a.....

neit_jnf
05-19-2003, 01:01 PM
Well, there has alredy been a lot of discussion about this but I think the biggest possibility is a 1.5L 2-rotor NA Renesis, Mazda doesn't want another turbo wankel reliability problem

max_stirling
05-20-2003, 08:09 AM
I really like the design. First of all, this is just the preliminary drawings just to get a response from the public. Certain key design cues are slightly exaggerated to draw more attention to itself.

Second, there will be certain Mazda DNA represented in the car. First will be the Mazda6 type headlights that are already on the RX-8. Next is the 5 pointed grill. I don't really like the fact that it is very similar to the Acura 5 pointed grill, but it's there and we better get used to it. Other design cues will be the first gen RX-7 rear hatch also represented in the RX-8. And finally, there is the j shaped doors from the FD.

Mazda is currently very proud of its hertiage and classic designs of the past successful models.

The design is bold ans sharp. Modern with hints of the past. The only thing missing is a turbo charger. Well, there's always the MazdaSpeed RX-7 to hope for.

Gord96BRG
05-20-2003, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by santino
same Gordon from the Miata forum, correct?

Yup! :D

bwayout
05-20-2003, 02:30 PM
I still think I like this older concept sketch better ...

http://www.rx8forum.com/attachment.php?postid=17424

And I'm with wakeech on keeping the pop-up hid-away headlights! Sure it may be style over funtion - but they look great when you turn them on and watch them pop-up!!!

:D

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?postid=51905

Well, ok maybe those door vent are fine and I'd like to see the back end - but the front grill looks wrong to me ... like other's before me posted so I won't add any more ... !

ShortBusRiot
05-29-2003, 05:05 PM
Love the doors.
Headlights have got to go...RX-7's must have pop ups
Go smaller wheels those look like crappy dubs. Give us some good performing tires.
They better do the rearlights right. Anyone have a picture of the rear?
The engine better be either turbocharged or a 14C anyone?

Fab 8
05-29-2003, 10:58 PM
Another new scoop of the 7...looks pretty amazing!


http://www.autofiend.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=80

Hercules
05-29-2003, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by Fab 8
Another new scoop of the 7...looks pretty amazing!


http://www.autofiend.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=80
These are just rumors... nothing's a 'scoop' until Mazda actually finalizes a concept.

And that hasn't happened... yet. :)

CERAMICSEAL
05-29-2003, 11:22 PM
Absolutely GORGEOUS!I'll take one of these also.Looks authentic hope it's for real

Farsyde
05-30-2003, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by danger
i hear rumours of the new supra being a 3.5L V6 n/a.....

there's gonna be another supra????

damn that blue concept looks sweet

bwayout
05-30-2003, 09:36 PM
their drawing is sweet !

crouzer
05-30-2003, 10:35 PM
IMO, these images are created by magazines to only sell more magazines.

I guess this is just a rumor, but I have even heard of manufacturers (Audi) distributing their own fakes (2004 A3). Maybe for buzz or feedback or to throw everyone off or lead them "home". Its all a game (mindshare and sales).

I like them from an artist/design/concept stand point, but the bottom line is we will never know what the production model might look like until a concept or production model debuts at a show.

santino
05-31-2003, 05:24 PM
i guess you will have to see the FE concept wait until October for the Tokyo Auto Show.
and that info is from a reliable source...Bob Hall, "father of the Miata".

santino

Sputnik
05-31-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by santino
i guess you will have to see the FE concept wait until October for the Tokyo Auto Show... The RX8 already has FE in it's VIN, so I highly doubt that a new RX7 would be called "FE".

---jps

santino
05-31-2003, 06:27 PM
just repeating what Mr. Hall said in the Miata forum...
the entire "code" name was J77 FE RX7.

http://www.miataforum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=011641

it is interesting that the Miata forum was discussing the same pictures as this forum was.

sorry...i couldn't post the link correctly.

santino

santino
05-31-2003, 06:30 PM
oh yeah....look for "bwob". that is Bob Hall.
it is a little less than half way of the first page.

santino