It was pretty good- not as good as the first, but not really disappointing. Sometimes the special effects seemed to get in the way of the movie, but they seemed to be getting it right about halfway through. Some idiot behind us was confused about the end, because she hadn't realized there was another movie coming out in November. Duh.

Anyway, definitely worth seeing.

I also just returned from the matrix reloaded-- didi you stay until the very end?

if you wait until the very long credits-maybe 10 min--are over there is a teaser trailer for the next movie-- the matrix revisited!


two words--- THE TWINS! WOW!

Darn- no, we didn't stay- it was 12:30am and we wanted to get home- but I'm sure it'll be up on the web soon enough.

it wasn't all that much-- but enough to keep everyone chompoing at the bit for the next one--only decision is that it comes out at IMAX and regular theaters at the same time--- wait that 's not a decision-just a harder ticket to get

Just got home and I liked the movie. The first one was so great because you didn't know what was going on until the matrix is revealed. Can't wait to see the final installment in December.

I liked it, can't wait for the finale :D

and uh, that Persephone, wow! :eek:

Just got back too - thought it was pretty good, but seemed like sci-fi cable porn in some scenes... And I agree about the special effets, sometimes they got in the way with too much CGI. But the freeway scene was sweet.

"Some idiot behind us was confused about the end, because she hadn't realized there was another movie coming out in November."



Speaking of uninformed people;

When I watched LOTR for the first time with my brothers, this lady behind us said, really loud, "That's the end? That's it? I sat here for three hours for that?"

So I said, really loud, "That's why they call it a trilogy. Because there's three of them."

Smartass.

I just got back too. Thats all I have to interject on the subject. I go sleepy now.

All in all it was ok.

Trailer ruined it, saw just about every cool scene already.

Plot got a little hokey and the dialog was overdrawn. My main beef was the continuity of the movie. It had a terrible flow.

Not bad but not up to the hype.

It's worth the bucks. Good movie, great effects, more character development, etc., but talk about a lame "sorry folks, get the hell out of the theater until Thanksgiving" cliff-hanger! This movie deserves to be splattered all over KazaA, just so we all can remember the plot come Holiday season and pick up where it left off. I just hope I don't forget the plot after Terminator III and (gag)FnF2.

We went to see it this afternoon. I have mixed feelings - the action sequences were excellent, but it dragged in between. IMHO they spent too much time playing up the love story between Trinity and Neo - it seemed that whenever those two weren't smacking heads, they were locking lips. And I could have done without the Zion mosh pit.

Didn't quite get the purpose of the Zion mosh pit / orgy. My other beef is the way they dress. When in the matrix, everyone is dressed as if they are going to a modeling shoot. When back in the real world they dress in a primative manner. It can't be for the lack of technology or vanity.

Originally posted by Superfan
Didn't quite get the purpose of the Zion mosh pit / orgy. My other beef is the way they dress. When in the matrix, everyone is dressed as if they are going to a modeling shoot. When back in the real world they dress in a primative manner. It can't be for the lack of technology or vanity.

maybe they dress down because it's more comfortable after stressing out fighting the Matrix :p :D

Originally posted by Superfan
Didn't quite get the purpose of the Zion mosh pit / orgy.
Seriously. They find out they're about to get attacked, so instead of preparing for battle, they throw a huge party... :confused:

I didn't understand the whole Zion mosh pit orgy either. Weird.

Here's another observation. Not a bad thing or a good thing, just different.

I noticed that the demographics of the people inside the Matrix were very typical American; lots of Caucasians with minorities sprinkled here and there.

Outside the matrix the majority race seemed to be Black, with lots of other races and some Caucasians sprinkled here and there.

I wonder why it was written that way. Did anyone else notice this? Any ideas why?

What twins?!?!?!?! are they hot!?!?!?!

as for the mosh pit seems like a rave to me. As to why in the matrix the people seem to be mostly caucasion is that the matrix reality is based in the New York, New York USA. And besides you're not going to see the whole population of the matrix throughout the movie. And also maybe because of the availability of background actors. As to why in the real world that black people seem to dominate. Come on its easier to find a black guy with rock hard abs than a white guy.(not trying to be racist). That and its computer gernerated. Quoting from the infamous Dr. Phil. "Well DUH."

Originally posted by Y&Y
As to why in the matrix the people seem to be mostly caucasion is that the matrix reality is based in the New York, New York USA. And besides you're not going to see the whole population of the matrix throughout the movie. And also maybe because of the availability of background actors. As to why in the real world that black people seem to dominate. Come on its easier to find a black guy with rock hard abs than a white guy.

i doubt it's because there are more fit black male actors than white male actors (in fact, that's extremely hard to believe), and yes was probably written that way for a purpose (dunno why), if it's as blatantly noticable as Schneegz has said (i've not yet seen it, but when i do i'll have a look)...

...and as for the clothing thing, i think it's to give a visual impression of their "status" in the world: in the Matrix, they're gods, and look like it... in the real world, they're the underdogs, the insects, and look like it.

the matrix reality is based in the New York, New York USA

I remember at some point during the freeway chase (or leading up to it), they pass a roadsign for Highway 101. That may be a remnant of the filming in Oakland, CA, but 101 is a west-coast road.

I think the city is just that: a city. They never refer to the city's name, and the wide shots of the city indicate an expanse of skyscrapers with no landmarks of any sort that would indicate a specific city. i.e Golden Gate Bridge, Statue of Liberty, Hollywood Hills, Sydney Opera House, etc.

The biggest problem I have with the movie is that I want to see the next movie now.

As an aside -- I just saw the Final Flight of the Osiris from the Animatrix, and have played through part of the first level of Enter the Matrix and I am amazed right now at the way the animated shorts, the video game, and the movie tie into each other. Very well done, IMO.

-shoe

My take on the minority issue is that in the Matrix world the minority make up most of the lower class, and they are more willing to accept that the Matrix world is fake than a upper/middle class person in the Matrix world. Like the bad guy from the first movie, a Bill Gates would have a hard time giving up what he had, even if it is a dream world

I agree the Zion dance party was way wierd, the people in the theatre just sort of looked at each other as if to say what the hell? The story has started to become slightly muddled... although still thought provoking.

Reloaded suffers from Empire Strikes Back syndrome. It's the middle movie in a trilogy, and has no closure. So long as Revolutions is a well-executed movie, Reloaded will gain new respect.

As for the story, I thought it was fine. It seemed like reviewers were attributing some sort of brilliance to the first Matrix that wasn't there, and were judging Reloaded on false pretenses. The story twist at the end was great, and the Architect's scene was absolutely perfect. My read on the Zion sequences was to illustrate the dichotomy between the perceived free will that the residents of the 'real world' had and the reality that they were controlled by their beliefs just as much as the Matrix controls those inside it. Morpheus is revealed as a complete looniebin as well, something that was present in early scripts of the first movie but didn't make it on the screen.

The Matrix has always been a popcorn movie with some light philosophical lifting, not some intellectual heavyweight.

the big question for you all to ponder is this:

is zion really "out " of the matrix or is it just some subroutine?

also the first humans "out"had to have some help from the matrix in order to survive. so why is it so hard for the machines to get to zion and wipe them out? if it was me i would have left myself a backdoor so i could wipe them out whenever i wanted to, especially since (according to the architect) that this has happened 5 times before and and was expected.

Originally posted by Y&Y
What twins?!?!?!?! are they hot!?!?!?!

ghost twins... the ones in the cadillac escalade


they shoulda had way more screen time.... i thought they were killed off too early

Mmmmm..... Trinity..... on a Ducati...... Aghhhghghghhgghhh.....

also the first humans "out"had to have some help from the matrix in order to survive. so why is it so hard for the machines to get to zion and wipe them out? if it was me i would have left myself a backdoor so i could wipe them out whenever i wanted to, especially since (according to the architect) that this has happened 5 times before and and was expected.

Well the architect needed the people of zion alive to help bring out the anomoly of the matrix i.e. Neo. And after figuring out these anomolies the machines would wipe out all but 7 male and female. So the matrix would be reloaded as the title says and the people of zion would repopulate forgetting what had happened in the past.

ghost twins... the ones in the cadillac escalade

they shoulda had way more screen time.... i thought they were killed off too early

Ya they were kinda cool. But since they are older software compared to the new agents. Being able to be transparent is cool. But the new agents are faster and stronger.

Originally posted by zoom44
the big question for you all to ponder is this:

is zion really "out " of the matrix or is it just some subroutine?

also the first humans "out"had to have some help from the matrix in order to survive. so why is it so hard for the machines to get to zion and wipe them out? if it was me i would have left myself a backdoor so i could wipe them out whenever i wanted to, especially since (according to the architect) that this has happened 5 times before and and was expected.

from what i got from the movie this afternoon. Zion is just another Matrix. and the "world" is just a matrix within the matrix.
At first the machine created a perfect world. the 1st version, and it failed and the machine lost the crops. So they created another version, but this time the huamn are allow to have make decisions. but only 99.9% of the human believe in this Matrix A, and produces the anomoly.. the " One". So the machine created another Matrix.. Matrix B, for the remaining 0.1%.

Then they allow the ppl to live in Matrix B and search for the anomoly.. the 'One', by giving them false hope.. kind of having them to do the dirty work. And once the "one" is found, the machine will make the "one" thinks that he can save the human kind and eventually end up where neo was at the end of the movie. making a choice between saving the entire human race, or something else.

According to the guy the previous 5 anomoly all picked the path of saving the human race thus killing Zion. the "One" then pick , i think 27 person? ( or something ) to rebuild and repopulate Zion while he joins the source.

then the cycle continues... zion find the new anomoly.. etc etc

but this time Neo didnt follow the pattern of saving the human race, instead he saved Trin. so God knows wat will happen in the 3rd movie haha

This whole a Matrix within a Matrix would also explain how Agent smith was able to enter Zion ( the other guy lying next to Neo at the end ) and How Neo was about to stop those.. watever they call me.. sentries? machines? when they were underattack..

so yeh.. thats my view on the MAtrix reload.. not a bad movie.. not as strong of a story line as the 1st one but thats expected being in the middle of the tri. The group orgy scene was definitly weird, and some fight scene do drag on, like Neo vs all the agent smiths

Anyone have the recipe to that cake?