I just read a review of the new Subaru http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1051643359752 and i wonder if I am making a mistake in buying the RX8. The Subaru seems so much better even if much more expensive, at $46K Canadian dollars compared with 39K for the full RX8.

Any comments ?

See my thread about this.... ;)

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4290

Yes you are making a mistake.

Buy the STi.

Herc, One less makes ours more unique???

The WRX is fugly (my son owns one), it does fly around turns without breaking loose (awd), it's difficult to launch quick (boost limited to 7psi in first gear) blah blah. To each his own. They are both great cars.

Originally posted by TJRX8
Herc, One less makes ours more unique???

The WRX is fugly (my son owns one), it does fly around turns without breaking loose (awd), it's difficult to launch quick (boost limited to 7psi in first gear) blah blah. To each his own. They are both great cars. Yes but they are both for different purposes, imo.

Besides this comparison has been done to death.

If you're not sure, power generally appeases those with limited car knowledge and appreciation, so get the WRX if you have doubts.

Originally posted by TJRX8
Herc, One less makes ours more unique???

The WRX is fugly


I was about to say the same thing

:( it's not ugly :(

i dont think it's fugly..it's pretty individualistic in my opinion.
but yea, i think sti and rx8 are for different uses. i was contemplating between these 2 for a little while too, cuz the sti has so much more power and all. but i think i'll just be more happy in a rx8. sure i like watching wrc and all, but i dunno..something about rx8 keeps me on it. styling? rotary? 4 door sports car? i dunno. maybe it's cuz i think i'd feel more mature in an rx8... :cool: it's just a matter of preference. why do people drive hummers?

Originally posted by halfon


Any comments ?

If you are a loyal follower of Jim Kenzie, why not wait till he reviews the RX-8 and then decide ?

[i]... why do people drive hummers? [/B]
Got me...

Jim Kenzie has a web site:
www.jimkenzie.com

You'll enjoy reading about a rally in Newfoundland.
Lots of good stories if you have the time.

Originally posted by gord boyd
Jim Kenzie has a web site:
www.jimkenzie.com

You'll enjoy reading about a rally in Newfoundland.
Lots of good stories if you have the time.


Ahhh something to pass the work day !
Thanks

haflon,

have you considered about the Lancer evo. looks better than Sti. But both the sti and the evo has very similar performance, not to mention interior. And I think the evo is cheaper.

EVOs are not available in Canada.

really!? that really bites. Well for those canadians wanting the evo can always go across the border and buy one.

Originally posted by Y&Y
really!? that really bites. Well for those canadians wanting the evo can always go across the border and buy one.
No we can't. You wouldn't be able to register it or put plates on it because it doesn't pass Canadian safety standards. It's unavailable becuase of Government regulations, not becuse Mitsu decided to not sell them here.

The STI is certainly the better buy if your a power freak, the hatch sti is amazing and quick. but if your looking for something unique and not just another turbo piston engine the rotary is the way to go small light and amazing handleing and if you are a hp freak slap a greddy turbo kit and your set

I had a Subie, not the STI, but a Legacy sedan...hated it, it just felt cheap, not a big Subie fan, but the STI numbers are impressive.

Check the date, what the.

Check the date, what the.

hehehehe

wow how did you end up reviving this thread what were you searching for?

this might be a long shot, but probably something with the terms rx8 and subaru ......

Omg, zombie thread !

I guess we can't knock him for not searching.

:lol: Wow.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?p=1248889#post1248889

02-19-2006, 05:18 PM

58 - One of the earliest versions of baby boomers. I liked the RX-7 when I had young children and I could fit them in sports car.

OP may be dead. :mchase:

LOL thats terrible dude...

Yeah, that's kinda messed up

Rule 1: There is ALWAYS a faster car.

Rule 2: No matter how fast it is, if you are a rotor head, a piston engine won't cut it.

When I was shopping for a new car in late '06, I test drove turbo'd Subies (I'm a 3-Subaru owner over the years), a Mustang, and a host of other cars. None of them put a smile on my face like the 8, even though some of them were noticeably faster off the line. I knew after maybe one minute that I'd be buying the 8 for sure.

And now there are just too damn many Evos, WRXs, Mustangs, Camaros, you name it. None of them are special by virtue of design or rarity, or driving experience.

Let the undecided go buy their uninspired, turbo'd granny mobiles or point-and-shoot cars with only marginal handling. I'm happy with my 8 and still, over 4 years later, have zero regrets.

Yeah having something different and unique is nice. At our car shows you would swear that you just pulled into a ford and chevy dealership. Plus I would imagine that forced induction done right on an 8 would be a game changer.

Rule 1: There is ALWAYS a faster car.

Rule 2: No matter how fast it is, if you are a rotor head, a piston engine won't cut it.

When I was shopping for a new car in late '06, I test drove turbo'd Subies (I'm a 3-Subaru owner over the years), a Mustang, and a host of other cars. None of them put a smile on my face like the 8, even though some of them were noticeably faster off the line. I knew after maybe one minute that I'd be buying the 8 for sure.

And now there are just too damn many Evos, WRXs, Mustangs, Camaros, you name it. None of them are special by virtue of design or rarity, or driving experience.

Let the undecided go buy their uninspired, turbo'd granny mobiles or point-and-shoot cars with only marginal handling. I'm happy with my 8 and still, over 4 years later, have zero regrets.

Well said JT. When I bought my Rx8 I was also looking at getting another Ws6, but as soon as test driving the 8 I knew I had to have one. Ask anyone that knows me and they would have thought for sure I'd be getting another Ws6 since they're one of my favorite cars ever, still are, but that will have to be my NEXT car since I had to have the 8.

Rule 1: There is ALWAYS a faster car.

Rule 2: No matter how fast it is, if you are a rotor head, a piston engine won't cut it.

When I was shopping for a new car in late '06, I test drove turbo'd Subies (I'm a 3-Subaru owner over the years), a Mustang, and a host of other cars. None of them put a smile on my face like the 8, even though some of them were noticeably faster off the line. I knew after maybe one minute that I'd be buying the 8 for sure.

And now there are just too damn many Evos, WRXs, Mustangs, Camaros, you name it. None of them are special by virtue of design or rarity, or driving experience.

Let the undecided go buy their uninspired, turbo'd granny mobiles or point-and-shoot cars with only marginal handling. I'm happy with my 8 and still, over 4 years later, have zero regrets.

If you think STis and Evos are uninspired turbocharged granny mobiles with marginal handling you are either delusional or have never experienced the other platforms at the limit. The Evo VIII/IXs out handle the RX-8 quite noticeably, not even getting into the obvious power difference. I love RX-8s as much as the next guy (I own two) but lets not be silly. Saying that the RX-8 puts a bigger smile on your face is fair enough, everyone has different criteria for smiles.

The Evo VIII/IXs out handle the RX-8 quite noticeably

Not sure if that's true, but I've never driven an evo, but I still find that hard to believe.

ah i remember when i was new to the forum, i think i revived a good amount of threads before someone actually told me what i was doing, learned my lesson quickly x_x

Not sure if that's true, but I've never driven an evo, but I still find that hard to believe.

Seriously, if you get a chance... drive one, they are brilliant. Similar steering feel to the RX-8, and in bone stock trim they do understeer more than the RX-8, mostly because of the choice by Mitsubishi to install the rear diff plates incorrectly to reduce noise and oversteer in the American models.

I guess we can't knock him for not searching.

:ylsuper:

I noticed the date when reading the OP and had to wonder why someone bumped the thread, considering we're on a new generation of STI's lol.

I test drove the new STI shortly after it came out and it didn't really astonish me. Admittedly, they were hesitant just to let me test drive it so I didn't really get to push it. I got a decent feel for the power and casual handling. I don't think I'd buy an evo or sti without the intent to modify them. They're great cars in stock form, but they just seem like cars that are asking to be modified and benefit greatly from mods. I have an S4 with over 400 awhp, so I'm definitely spoiled on cars like that. I definitely have respect towards the STI and evo and I'm sure I'd enjoy owning one. I personally prefer the evo for the current generation, though I have yet to test drive one.

I noticed the date when reading the OP and had to wonder why someone bumped the thread, considering we're on a new generation of STI's lol.

I test drove the new STI shortly after it came out and it didn't really astonish me. Admittedly, they were hesitant just to let me test drive it so I didn't really get to push it. I got a decent feel for the power and casual handling. I don't think I'd buy an evo or sti without the intent to modify them. They're great cars in stock form, but they just seem like cars that are asking to be modified and benefit greatly from mods. I have an S4 with over 400 awhp, so I'm definitely spoiled on cars like that. I definitely have respect towards the STI and evo and I'm sure I'd enjoy owning one. I personally prefer the evo for the current generation, though I have yet to test drive one.

The new STi is a torque monster, its very easy to generate great torque numbers. The stock handling for the GRB chassis is VERY prone to understeer. The first time I drove one I literally almost crashed it because I was so shocked by the INSANE understeer. I've heard that the newest iteration of the chassis with the sedan version has a lot less understeer from the factory than the hatch of the previous year.

Agreed with the modification.. the Evo and the STi both leave so much room on the table for performance upgrades its crazy. They are decent in stock trim, but you can make them perform so much better with reliable bolt-ons. My Evo for example is still on the stock block, stock bottom end, pushing 26+ psi of boost without complaint as a daily driver + weekend road course car.

As far as the current generation of Evo, the Evo X, its a polarizing car. You generally either love them or hate them. I personally have always loved the Evo IXs the best, and I have a lot of complaints about the X. They look good, but they are so much heavier than the IXs it dramatically influences their handling. The car is hailed as the "softer, more refined Evo", but that's not what I want out of a car, particularly an Evo. The Evo up through IX is a very raw car... its loud, powerful, knife edge handling, and has the interior of cheap shitty plastic. It is not a competitor to a BMW/Audi etc in refinement. It really had its own niche. I personally think the Evo has so much of that "soul" that people talk about with RX-8s. Every single car is a compromise on some level, so you really need to find the car that speaks to you... for me the Evo was everything I had tried to build my RX-8 to be. It's light, high revving, turbocharged, NOT civilized or subtle, and handles like its literally glued to the road. :evil_laug