View Full Version : Shame on you for profiting from a tragedy!


moRotorMotor
10-22-2004, 02:06 PM
I am disgusted with what people will do these days to make a living. I don't even know how these people even sleep at night! I am talking about the September 11 coins that you might have seen on Spike TV or some other network. It's fake and a complete lie. There is not one thing said in the commercial that is even remotely true. I am rarely this frustrated, but I hope the people behind this product burn and die! Thank you for listening... I feel better now. :)
Read here (http://www.usatoday.com/money/2004-10-13-wtc-coin_x.htm) for the whole story.

Cattywampus
10-22-2004, 02:10 PM
Money rules the world. People were very devastated by this an they figured they can lie and people would think it's legit and profit.

Red Devil
10-22-2004, 02:12 PM
Are those the same ones that are "made from the silver found at the WTC site"?

I agree, what a bunch of crap.

TODreamer
10-22-2004, 02:21 PM
c.r.e.a.m.

Cattywampus
10-22-2004, 02:24 PM
c.r.e.a.m.
Yep that's what they thought

Battousai
10-22-2004, 03:49 PM
Are those the same ones that are "made from the silver found at the WTC site"?

I agree, what a bunch of crap.

Yeah those are the ones, I saw one of those adds on TV a while back and thought it odd that they were allowed to even do this... so it figures it was all BS.

whats c.r.e.a.m?

Sorry not in my best thinking mood today, been hounded by stupid end users called an 'IT Nazi' etc.. because we don't let the poor darlings install software on their systems as they please :-/

Feras
10-22-2004, 03:54 PM
Yeah those are the ones, I saw one of those adds on TV a while back and thought it odd that they were allowed to even do this... so it figures it was all BS.

whats c.r.e.a.m?

Sorry not in my best thinking mood today, been hounded by stupid end users called an 'IT Nazi' etc.. because we don't let the poor darlings install software on their systems as they please :-/


lol on their systems, technically 'their' systems belong to the company, you should tell them that and tell them to nag to their boss instead.

o0o0o
10-22-2004, 04:03 PM
whats c.r.e.a.m?



Cash, Rules, Everything, Around, Me

C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar, dollar bill y'all

http://lyricsroom.net/W/Wu-tang%20Clan/Enter%20the%20Wu-Tang%20(36%20Chambers)/C.R.E.A.M..htm

HeelnToe
10-22-2004, 04:19 PM
I've been pretty PO'd at all those moronic coin commercials. The 9/11 is the worst so far though. All scams... I can't believe they're allowed to do it, let alone that people fall for it. Pretending to be the US Treasury just ain't cool.

"Legal tender" my a$$.... yea, in Liberia maybe.

Battousai
10-22-2004, 06:00 PM
Cash, Rules, Everything, Around, Me

C.R.E.A.M.
Get the money
Dollar, dollar bill y'all

http://lyricsroom.net/W/Wu-tang%20Clan/Enter%20the%20Wu-Tang%20(36%20Chambers)/C.R.E.A.M..htm

Ah I see (...said the blind man)

MazdaspeedFeras: Yeah its all good, let them try downloading anything at 1KB/s

Don't piss off the guy who controls the badnwidth :D

Also the first goddamed porn site they vist, their boss gets a nice log file.

Nubo
10-22-2004, 06:51 PM
When you hear "Clad in .999 pure silver" you know it's BS, the key word being "Clad". Sometimes they'll use the word "layered", though that's more often the case with bogus gold.

mysql101
10-22-2004, 07:05 PM
I don't have a problem with those ads or products. If they were selling a service/product no one wanted or bought, they would quickly go away. The fact that you keep seeing them means there is a demand for what they provide. It's a free market, more power to them.

MadRonin
10-22-2004, 09:21 PM
I don't have a problem with those ads or products. If they were selling a service/product no one wanted or bought, they would quickly go away. The fact that you keep seeing them means there is a demand for what they provide. It's a free market, more power to them.
So how many did you get suckered into buying? :D

mysql101
10-22-2004, 09:33 PM
So how many did you get suckered into buying? :Dlol. I think they're dumb, so I'd never buy one. But if I was a coin collector or something, I might be tempted.

HeelnToe
10-22-2004, 10:25 PM
lol. I think they're dumb, so I'd never buy one. But if I was a coin collector or something, I might be tempted.

They aren't "coins." They aren't money. They're totally worthless trinkets being misrepresented as actual US coins and "legal tender" by immoral companies capitalizing on the stupidity of people.

They're "for entertainment purposes only," but they're certainly not marketed that way: "Limited run!" and "only 2 sets per customer!" and "signature of authenticity provided!"

Spammers. That's all they are. Same old story of people with no sense of integrity or honour trying to steal - not make - a buck.

BlueEyes
10-22-2004, 10:47 PM
I don't see how they are stealing anything, and they are probably making a few bucks. I don't know why you folks ar so upset about it, your entire country is fear and tradgedy obsessed. Being a capitalist society, smart money would be to take advantage of that. It isn't immoral to give people what they want, and if people are buying them, that's what they want.

HeelnToe
10-22-2004, 11:23 PM
It isn't immoral to give people what they want, and if people are buying them, that's what they want.

They're marketed as being legal tender... real money... that's what I have a problem with. Not just the 9/11 "coins," but all the various "mints" offering this junk. If people buy them because they simply like them, that's cool. But the ads mislead people into thinking they're purchasing actual collectable US coins, which is fraud.

From http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/20204.htm

October 14, 2004 -- A Westchester company is trying to "profit from a national tragedy" by peddling 9/11 commemorative coins to gullible customers ready to believe they're real dollars made from silver found at Ground Zero, Attorney General Eliot Spitzer charged yesterday.
National Collector's Mint of Port Chester had been offering the "2004 Freedom Tower Silver Dollar" coins, depicting the Twin Towers on one side and the soon to be built Freedom Tower on the other, since September. Then Spitzer sued and obtained a restraining order abruptly terminating the sale.

Its Web site had even offered a special deal — $19.05 off the "regular" $39 price.

"This product has been promoted with claims that are false, misleading or unsubstantiated," Spitzer said.

"It is a shameless attempt to profit from a national tragedy."

Spitzer said National Collector's falsely claimed its coins were struck from "pure silver recovered from Ground Zero."

The company said the silver came from vaults that had been buried in the rubble. But it did not say how it got its hands on the precious metal.

The sales pitch said the "legally authorized" coins were created with "100 Mil .999 Pure Silver." But Spitzer's lawsuit says they're only bronze with silver plating.

"The silver content of the 'Freedom Tower' medallion is infinitesimal compared to the silver content of a pure silver coin," he said.

Spitzer said the company's sales staff even had the nerve to represent the coins as legal tender — a claim that some might find plausible since they're inscribed with the words "One Dollar" and "In God We Trust."



The medallion, he said, was produced by a private Wyoming company called SoftSky, which had a licensing agreement with the "Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas Islands."

The Marianas, which constitute some 14 tiny Pacific Islands, are U.S. territory — but have no authority to issue coins.

Spitzer also said the company's statement that it is registered to do business in New York state "is completely false."

National Collector's stood by its product.

"Our many repeat customers demonstrate the quality of our products and the integrity of our company," it said in a statement.

"We stand by the accuracy of the statements in our marketing for the 2004 Freedom Tower Silver Dollar. Our efforts in marketing 9/11 commemorative items have already enabled us to donate over $1.5 million to various official 9/11-related charities."

The attorney general is seeking a permanent injunction and restitution for consumers.

He also wants the company to state clearly in its ads that its products are not issued or endorsed by the U.S. government.

Anyone who bought one of the medallions and wants to file a complaint can contact the Attorney General's office at www.oag.state.ny.us or call (800) 771-7755, Spitzer said.

BlueEyes
10-23-2004, 02:29 AM
well that is fair enough, I was under the impression you didn't like them exploiting the 9/11 situation. My bad :)

Gomez
10-23-2004, 04:23 AM
Hmmm, $20 hey.

These ones (https://www.downies.com/australia/store/product.asp?id=1074) are $1900 AUD..... :( .

Icemastr
10-23-2004, 02:14 PM
I am selling copper collectable coins engraved with abraham lincoln that are really US legal tender for $19.95 no limit per customer either!

mysql101
10-23-2004, 02:18 PM
I am selling copper collectable coins engraved with abraham lincoln that are really US legal tender for $19.95 no limit per customer either!I'm interested, but only if the coin is scratched up, has green moss growing on it, and looks like it's sat in someone's ear for the last 10 years.

MadRonin
10-23-2004, 10:45 PM
I am selling copper collectable coins engraved with abraham lincoln that are really US legal tender for $19.95 no limit per customer either!
I'm interested, but only if it is really made of copper and has the year 1943 stamped on it. ;):D

canaryrx8
10-24-2004, 11:47 AM
coins piss people off, if you want to make friends and influence people, just make a movie instead, that's the REAL way to exploit a tragedy :D