For those not members of other car forums, here's a short film (http://66.250.27.80/download/movieh.wmv ) link from the Dodge website that's being passed around.
Right-Click-Save-Target-As to your drive.

thanks T for the vid and the instructions;)

edit: so dodge is endorsing street racing now?

wow , the srt-4 is really nice

I dont see much nice about it other than the sound of the blowoff valve and that killer fmic.

i love gigantic wings on fwd cars =) (wait...the srt-4 is fwd right? :P)

I think they are AWD

Originally posted by tookwik
I think they are AWD

*snicker* when the hell has Dodge ever made a decent AWD system, much less one that could be used on a small car?? ;)

jk, but the *cough*fuglyass*cough-cough* turbo Neon is FWD, just like all other "pure sport compacts" :p

wakeech: your right on that one. I figured the srt-"4" stood for something. maybe it stands for 4 banger. hehe.

I doubt a stock srt-4 would be able to beat a modded WRX.

Originally posted by zoom44
thanks T for the vid and the instructions;)

edit: so dodge is endorsing street racing now?

They called their Special tuned cars "SRT" as in "Street and Racing Technology" ......... I guess they figured they might get into trouble if they just call it "Street Racing Technology"

Originally posted by tookwik
wakeech: your right on that one. I figured the srt-"4" stood for something. maybe it stands for 4 banger. hehe.

Correct, hence the Viper has the SRT-10 code.

One more example: the Dodge Magnum, SRT-8, 8 cylinder engine.

Is FWD and stock have 215 HP and 0-60 5,9sec. With some aftermartket kit You can get 300 HP

Interior

Originally posted by MaTeZZ
Is FWD and stock have 215 HP and 0-60 5,9sec. With some aftermartket kit You can get 300 HP

*BANG!!!*

Originally posted by MaTeZZ
Interior

you certainly get what you pay for ;)

*BANG!!!*

That car isn't going to need 300HP to do that. I'm sure its stock set up with Dodges' excellent engineering will be all that is required to make the car go BANG! What's it got, 14 or 18 lbs. of boost? Hope future buyers invest in extra warranty.

Originally posted by MaTeZZ
...With some aftermartket kit You can get 300 HP Isn't the kit called "Mustang Cobra"? ;)

---jps

Originally posted by Sputnik
Isn't the kit called "Mustang Cobra"? ;)

---jps

...Ford makes kits for MoPar?? :confused: :p

...Ford makes kits for MoPar??

Oh, yeah. Ford, Dodge, and GM parts are all interchangable. :p

i will never trust a neon. But i'll be more than happy to race a friends and break it for him. Or watch someone race it. But own one???? NEVER!!!

price to power ratio is nice

looks blah
fwd blah

A friend of mine was going to buy one. I convinced him the car is a massive turd. Haven't driven the car but I would expect a whole lot of torque steer with a side order of wheel spin.

When these cars start blowing head gaskets like it's going out of style, can I say "I told you so"?

The SRT4 is the fastest, most powerful car you can buy in the US for $20K, and it'll beat many cars that cost a lot more.

Sure, the interior isn't the best, but it's not aimed at people who shop around for sophisticated interiors. It's aimed at people who want the most performance for their money and don't have a lot to spend, so Dodge decided to not spend much on items that won't help it go, stop or turn any faster.

That being said, even if you COULD get 300Hp out of this engine, I think doing so would just be BEGGING for trouble.

Originally posted by Schneegz
so Dodge decided to not spend much on items that won't help it go, stop or turn any faster.

yeah aparrently in their haste to build the fastest car under $20k they forgot the all important LSD. I mean 1 wheel burnouts are fun and all but dodge definately still has some things to learn for the next SRT-4

Originally posted by Schneegz
That being said, even if you COULD get 300Hp out of this engine, I think doing so would just be BEGGING for trouble.

i think they are begging for trouble now. I'm not sure that dodge should dive into the turbo market and their first test be pushing 14-15psi boost. I hope they prove me wrong b/c I love seeing competition in the SCC market, it's helps lower the cost of other SCC's and promoted deep competition

Farsyde:

I'm not sure that dodge should dive into the turbo market and their first test be pushing 14-15psi boost.

This is NOT Dodge's first foray into the turbo arena. The Dodge Stealth and Eagle Talon both came with Mitsubishi torbos. This Neon also uses a Mitsu turbo, and Mitsu did the engineering for the bossted version of the Neone engine. And we all know that Mitsu has loads of experience with turbos.

I'm not saying the car will be fenomenally reliable. In fact, Mitsu doesn't have what I would call a stellar reliability record. We'll just have to wait and see how it does in Consumer Reports next year.



This is from Autofiend.com:

The next generation Neon will be a combination of efforts between Chrysler and Mitsubishi. The new Neon will designed by Chrysler and engineered by Mitsubishi. This is very similar to how Chrysler is developing the new Crossfire with Mercedes. Read more for all the details.

The 2.0 engine will no longer be offered, and a new engine, developed by Hyundai, and used by Chrysler, Mitsubishi, and Mercedes, will be the powerplant. The new engine is vastly superior to, both, the current 2.0 and 2.4. It uses direct injection; which goes very well with turbochargering, and will produce even more amazing numbers than the current SRT . The car will also be given an interior upgrade. The Mitsubishi Evo is a preview of what we can expect from the future Neon’s

Originally posted by Schneegz
...This is NOT Dodge's first foray into the turbo arena. The Dodge Stealth and Eagle Talon both came with Mitsubishi torbos... Dodge has more domestic turbo history than that. There are even some K-car variants running around with turbos.

---jps

"Most performance for the money"
Only if you consider a scary wheel spinning, torque steering blast down the street IN A STRAIGHT LINE, to be the sum total of "performance".
S

Schneegz:

Ah yes the talon did elude my memory. It's been so long since i've even seen one driving on the road that i've forgotten all about it. I didn't know the stealth was turbo'd. The N/A version was falling apart so fast i wonder how the turbo version fared.

StealthTL

Only if you consider a scary wheel spinning, torque steering blast down the street IN A STRAIGHT LINE, to be the sum total of "performance".

Actually, the SRT4 has done pretty well in comparisons against the Mazdaspeed Protege and SVT Focus, and that includes handling. But, yeah, it's still a FWD car, and there are limits to what you can do with that. But, hell, it costs less than $20K! You do get what you pay for!

I wouldn't put it down too much. A stage 1 SRT4 came in 8th in One Lap Of America. Check the results...it beat plenty of big names.

http://www.onelapofamerica.com/

Originally posted by AbusiveWombat
I wouldn't put it down too much. A stage 1 SRT4 came in 8th in One Lap Of America. Check the results...it beat plenty of big names.

hang on hang on hang on... that was a points system, not a cumulative timed system... being the skeptic that i am, that would indicate to me that it's really only top-of-the-heap when you're comparing to other Mid Priced Sedans (as was it's "class" on the LOA Final Results page)

i'm not trying to find excuses to put it down, but this is the same as Supercharger arguing that turbos are bad because newer all-motor GP cars run faster laptimes than the turbo monsters of the 80's... it just won't hold water without some very careful consideration (something i don't have time for right this min...)

Originally posted by AbusiveWombat
I wouldn't put it down too much. A stage 1 SRT4 came in 8th in One Lap Of America. Check the results...it beat plenty of big names.

http://www.onelapofamerica.com/

it's still 1 wheel drive. 245ft-lbs turning one wheel is retarded. When soooo many SCC are running around w/ LSD's i can't beleive dodge didnt at least allow it as an option. Plain Stupid

it's still 1 wheel drive. 245ft-lbs turning one wheel is retarded. When soooo many SCC are running around w/ LSD's i can't beleive dodge didnt at least allow it as an option. Plain Stupid

Correct me if I am wrong, but...

Pretty much all vehicles are 1 wheel drive until that wheel begins to slip and only then is the power transfered to another wheel. Only when a locker is used will both wheels receive the same power.

It seems now most manufacturers have moved to a cheaper electronic limited slip. From what I understand this engages the break of the slipping tire which automagically transfers the power to the other wheel.

Originally posted by crouzer


Correct me if I am wrong, but...

Pretty much all vehicles are 1 wheel drive until that wheel begins to slip and only then is the power transfered to another wheel. Only when a locker is used will both wheels receive the same power.

It seems now most manufacturers have moved to a cheaper electronic limited slip. From what I understand this engages the break of the slipping tire which automagically transfers the power to the other wheel.

true but this is still important. But your thinkiong about a traction contol system that is computer controlled. I'm talking about the meat and potatoes active LSD. the D is the important part here. There are cars whose LSD provides 50/50 power to each axle UNTIL one slips more than the other and the LSD takes power away from the sliping wheel and gives it to the other. The only case where the car would truly revert to one wheel drive would be if one of the front tires was off the ground.

See if dodge had at least used a computer controlled traction control program then this would still prevent the one wheel burnout, at least partially.