not that it matters because i am going to be buying one of these anyway, but will this allow you to make any changes to anything, or is this just a monitoring device?

Did you mean Tuesday the 24th or Thursday the 26th?
Or does 1.1 also let you control space and time? :cool:

I think I will be selling it here in the USA ? right ?

Did you mean Tuesday the 24th or Thursday the 26th?

Oops - Sorry about that. Glad our S/W QA process is better than my forum process. :p

Thursday 26th May 2006. Just kidding. 2005 :) LOL!

Cheers,
Hymee.

Thanks :)

Should I order from Mazdaparts.com?

Here here boys!
Glad to know the time has arrived. You will see my transaction on Thursday.
Can't hardly wait to get my hands on it.

I wet my pants!! :p

I guess I didn't specify a time of day for tomorrow. Perhaps midnight in Hawaii :eek: ;)

Cheers,
Hymee.

LOL - Hymee mentioned a "Tuner" addition.... :confused:

Mmmm, I did. :D

Congratulations... :)

What about postage costs? Is there a "pick up" option for the locals? :)

To get this all in one place, wo/searching the 25 thread pages, could you post some interface pics here of the released version and v1.1 beta improvements as well?

Interested to see it is serial (my lap has serial), what is the port data rate?

If all this is too much and will be the site anyway, it's Ok if you just let me wait...just anticipating :D
There will be heaps of screen shots on the web site, so I won' t post them here.

The serial connection runs at 19200 baud. The interface has an internal buffer. Speed is limited by the time it takes for the PCM to respond and also to a lesser effect by the CAN bus.

not that it matters because i am going to be buying one of these anyway, but will this allow you to make any changes to anything, or is this just a monitoring device?This version doesn't allow you to make changes.

Edit: Except to clear the MIL/CEL and freeze frame data. I'm still working on the "Add horses" button ;)

Except to clear the MIL / CEL :D

Cheers,
Hymee.

Up to Double the Data Rate of 1.0 (live gauges and logging). Our serial hardware and software protocols allows sCANalyser Live 1.1 to log up to 6 distinct PIDS every 40 milliseconds (approx). That is twice as fast as 1.0 (80 ms). The same hardware as shipped with 1.0 is used.I was surprised that there have been no oohs and aahs on this.... I thought this was pretty cool. More frequent data sampling will help give you a more accurate picture of what is going on.

Thanks everyone for your kind words too. Well timbo, at least you were warm ;) - you can take any help you can get this time of year in Canberra right? (I grew up in Wagga Wagga... I know how cold it can get)

Congratulations... :)

What about postage costs? Is there a "pick up" option for the locals? :)

Overnight express courier in Australia = $7.00

Pickup option... I suppose so, I just need to work out my hourly rate ;) j/k

Cheers,
Hymee.

I was surprised that there have been no oohs and aahs on this.... I thought this was pretty cool. More frequent data sampling will help give you a more accurate picture of what is going on.

Yeah. I suppose the fact that with version 1.0 "we" are already 20% faster than...

cut - back to the footy :p

Cane Toads 13
'roaches NIL

Cheers,
Hymee.

There will be heaps of screen shots on the web site, so I won' t post them here.

The serial connection runs at 19200 baud. The interface has an internal buffer. Speed is limited by the time it takes for the PCM to respond and also to a lesser effect by the CAN bus.

Sco,

Waddaya reckon of the User Manual so far? Perhaps we should just post it as the "marketing colateral" ;)

Cheers,
Hymee.

Nah, still working on the Hymish to English translation :p

What did you do, mentioning the score like that :mad: . Now we're 20 all, into extra time :eek:

(;) ;) ;) )

Intercept try!!!! Q U E E N S L A N D E R!!!! You bloody beauty!!!!

Stop the presses....

I gunna rename it. Dunno whether to call it "The Interceptor" or "The Bowen" :D

24-20 to the Maroons! :D:D:D:D

Cheers,
Hymee.

My office must be further from the telly than yours :(

Just beat me. Sometimes 20% makes all the difference ;)

Cheers,
Hymee.

Will there be a way to upgrade to the tuner version once it is available or will we have to purchase new hardware/software at full price?

Will there be a way to upgrade to the tuner version once it is available or will we have to purchase new hardware/software at full price?

Tuner version is a ways off yet, so it would be innapropriate to promise anything.

That said... The plan is that the current hardware can be used. It would be a software upgrade only if you already had the hardware. We are also looking at using the same hardware to have a version that can re-flash Mazda files (they can be obtained from www.mazdatechinfo.com).

Cheers,
Hymee.

Please stop the footy

On a serious note, to map a reflash to upload with the available hardware, you have to first get the data (map) from the PCM. Have you isolate the info being uploaded by the Mazda WDS and see what they are yet?

Then I guess is to understand and write a program to change it.

Last is to upload and wa la. Tune for every single RX-8 in Australia ... and around the world ;)

.... I just waken up and back to reality.

"Hey Mark and Ross where is my manual, and CD update ;)?"

Taka,

You leave the hard stuff to us ;) Surely we have prooven ourselves by know!

Cheers,
Hymee.

PS - The version you seek is not released yet, grasshopper. The manual is under the same pebble. Watch your email. You beta dudes will be the first to get it. You don't think I'm gunna send you a CD do you? It will be on the Web.

I was surprised that there have been no oohs and aahs on this...

Oooooooooooohhhhhhh aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh :D

....I gunna rename it. Dunno whether to call it "The Interceptor" or "The Bowen"....

Huh???????

...We are also looking at using the same hardware to have a version that can re-flash Mazda files (they can be obtained from www.mazdatechinfo.com)....

Charles Hill will like to hear that one... He wants to go back to the "M" flash on his NOS burner ;)

Huh???????

I've got no idea. I think it might be vaugley related to some wierd form of non-fuel powered sport they play here. Some fella called Matt Bowen took an intercept in "golden-point" time of the match, and scored a try for the good guys to win the match.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Hey--
Somewhere it's Thursday. I'm ready to order.

Its Thursday here, i am ready too :D

Sco and I will have this ready today, as promised. We have both taken leave from our real jobs to meet this commitment.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Thursday here too, 1 AM. Which means the sCANalyser has been available for an hour now from me!!! :D

Wishing you and Sco good work today.

Fabrice

It's such a beautiful day here. Shame to be sitting inside I think we might go for a drive to the beach instead and observe some of the local wildlife.

(I am only kidding ;) )

2 rasputin: I am in europe, so when u have parts available send me an PM so we can make some buisness

Charles Hill will like to hear that one... He wants to go back to the "M" flash on his NOS burner ;)

That may be a tall order. Going backwards is a tough one. We won't dicuss it here and spoil Hymee and Sco's thunder.

Back to the thread..I will not buy one of these..




















I want two. :D

Good work guys.

Hymee just got me a beauty :o . He said snap-on's posted that he's not getting one :eek: ... my jaw dropped :( . Then I read the post and scrolled down :D :D

Thanks for your support snap-on... and everyone else who's champing at the bit to order. We're almost there. Web site's almost done, CD's are being cut, manual's going through final changes. Back to work!

First CD! This is a historic moment ;)

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=51217&stc=1

Website nearly done :cool:

Cheers,
Hymee.

Come on guys it's nearly Friday down here... :eek:

How hard is it to get a website working correctly.. ;)

2 rasputin: I am in europe, so when u have parts available send me an PM so we can make some buisness
Hi Dodo,

10 kits are already ordered. Please see my Hymee webpages (link in signature) and comtact me by e-mail. Croatia is in the EU now (correct me if I'm wrong), so shipping/invoicing is going to be easy.


To Hymee and Sco,
It's only Thursday noon here in Belgium, so take your time..;)

Fabrice

Come on guys it's nearly Friday down here... :eek:

How hard is it to get a website working correctly.. ;)

FFS - It's only 12:52 am in Hawaii, Thursday morning. :)

Cheers,
Hymee.

Sorry, there's a delay while I ROFLMAO... Last heard from Hymee's mouth... "bugger, there's nowhere it's still Wednesday"!!!! :D

Sorry, there's a delay while I ROFLMAO... Last heard from Hymee's mouth... "bugger, there's nowhere it's still Wednesday"!!!! :D

That is true guys :p

ROFL!

Cheers,
Hymee.

Maybe some of these links might help??

http://build-website.com/

http://www.infinite-revenue.com/genericsite/

:D :D :D

Is there anything we can do to help?

Like losing the front door key to the Brisbane Myer store on the morning of the boxing day sale.. :D

Hey sco,

Have you seen any orders come in yet?

Cheers,
Hymee.

Hey sco,

Have you seen any orders come in yet?

Cheers,
Hymee.No, did you tell anyone that www.hymee.com (http://www.hymee.com/) has been updated :p :eek: and you can order from www.hymee.com/scanalyser.htm (http://www.hymee.com/scanalyser.htm) :D ?

And with 54 minutes of local time to spare ;)

No, did you tell anyone that www.hymee.com (http://www.hymee.com) has been updated :p :eek: and you can order from www.hymee.com/scanalyser.htm (http://www.hymee.com/scanalyser.htm) :D ?

;)

Do'h. Thanks mate. :D

Cheers,
Hymee.

Do'h - "xxup is offline"

Cheers,
Hymee.

Congratulations on the launch, you blokes :). I suppose one of these things will come in handy if I ever get myself a laptop......!

Cheers,
Gomez.

Thanks 'mez. :)

I can make you up a really long serial cable if you want :p

How about a wireless version. Then I'll be able to clear any DTC's while the missus shoots down to the corner for a carton of milk..... :p

Is there any way to review a data log within this program? CANscan forces you to use another program like Excel to view the log. In my opinion I think that this is rather clumsy and it is not user friendly. Especially when you are trying to make several runs to tune the ECU.

It would be nice to have some VCR like controls (rewind, step back, play, stop, step forward, fast forward) to quickly review the run using gauge display. You already have the display, why not make it even more useful?

It would also really help if you can compare two runs by plotting them on a graph. This would make it much easier to see small variations between runs.

Hymee and sco, nice job on the site.

I have a question though, are you guys going to sell the usb cable on the site? if not, would it be possible to put the recommendation somewhere on the page?

hey hymee, just a question about shipping, what is the time frame for shipping to here in the US for both standard and express shipping?

Just placed my order.
Thanks guys for your tireless work -- awesome product.

Is there any way to review a data log within this program? CANscan forces you to use another program like Excel to view the log. In my opinion I think that this is rather clumsy and it is not user friendly. Especially when you are trying to make several runs to tune the ECU.

It would be nice to have some VCR like controls (rewind, step back, play, stop, step forward, fast forward) to quickly review the run using gauge display. You already have the display, why not make it even more useful?

It would also really help if you can compare two runs by plotting them on a graph. This would make it much easier to see small variations between runs.

Speed Racer,

That is a good question.

We have already started looking at some integrated graphing/charting of the same high quality as our gauges.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Thanks! My order is in and I'll be looking forward to any future updates.

Hymee and sco, nice job on the site.

I have a question though, are you guys going to sell the usb cable on the site? if not, would it be possible to put the recommendation somewhere on the page?

We had a last minute concern about something with the cable we were "certifying", so we held off on this until we are confident.

At the moment, Wildcard and Taka have both been using a Lindy brand USB/Serial adaptor.

http://www.lindy.com/us/productfolder/04/42856/index.php

We plan on updating the site ASAP when we have this resolved.

Cheers,
Hymee.

hey hymee, just a question about shipping, what is the time frame for shipping to here in the US for both standard and express shipping?

According to the Australia Post web site:

Selected Country: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Service Letters - Zone: Rest Of World
Parcels - Zone: 4

Usual Delivery
ECI: 2-5 work days (our "Express" option)
Air Mail: 4-6 work days (our "Standard" option)

The Express option provides a tracking number and a web site to track it. It provides very detailed info.

Cheers,
Hymee.

I'm very expressed :)

Do'h - "xxup is offline"

The huge mental exhaustion of waiting you guys to find the front door keys was too much... I went to bed... :D

Congratulations - I'm off to the site now.. . :)

According to the Australia Post web site:

Selected Country: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Service Letters - Zone: Rest Of World
Parcels - Zone: 4

Usual Delivery
ECI: 2-5 work days (our "Express" option)
Air Mail: 4-6 work days (our "Standard" option)

The Express option provides a tracking number and a web site to track it. It provides very detailed info.

Cheers,
Hymee.
Having now imported a lot of Hymee stuff to Europe, I would seriously recommend the Express option, as Standard Airmail sometimes got lost (and recovered fortunately) and some took 3 weeks to get here! You cannot imagine the relief to have a tracking number...
This problem is not related to Hymee (all the paperwork is always fine) or the Australian Post Services (they merely throw the boxes in a plane). but because during its trip around the world, the stuff goes through several airports and airlines, and through Customs who are notoriously slow, in US too.

Fabrice

Time for a quick look back? 9/19/2004

Quote from rxeightr:

".... Oh, the neatest thing about this product? This is only the beginning. Just hang on, because Hymee has more surprises coming our way. Stay tuned....... "

I've been wondering for a while how I'd respond to that... it was pretty amusing going back and looking at that original screen shot of the dials and one day when I have time I want to go back through all 38 :eek: pages. I've still got the source code for that here somewhere ... I must fire it up one day for a bit of fun.

It's been a bit of a slog, a bit longer than I thought it would be, but we got to our first big stop on our journey. It's really humbling to have a bunch of you out there egging us on and supporting us by buying the product, despite how long it has taken.

And I feel really proud to contribute something significant back to this community... it's been like a second home for me since I feel in love with the '8.

We've had some really late nights lately finishing everything off and getting the first shipments out. Once we've recovered some energy we'll be diving into those features we've committed to provide and thinking about the future. There's some things I still want to do even better than we have and some features I still want to see in the base product but I don't have all the ideas - so please keep the suggestions coming. What gets implemented is influenced by your input.

If you've purchased the product and are having any issues, send an email to support@hymee.com and let us know and we'll help you out.

Received my shipment information from PayPal that mine is on its way.

The serial to USB adapter we need to get (if our laptop does not have a serial port), if I remember correctly, not just any manufacturer will work. Can you provide a list of the ones that will work? I know you mentioned the Lindy brand on page 14.

Yes, the Lindy one works fine. I've also had some feedback that a Targus one works fine, but I don't know the part number. In theory any manufacturer should work, but we've had issues particularly with "cheaper" serial to USB converters.

Again, apologies for not having the one available as promised... we're still looking into the late breaking issue that caused us to pull it from sale. I have a sneaking suspicion that it's actually a hardware issue with Hymee's notebook that's the cause, but we're doing more testing to be sure.

Some information for those who currently have a sCANalyser on its way - information about new features in beta 1.1 didn't make it into the manual before we cut the CDs.

Fast mode is enabled automatically in the 1.1 beta.
To use Full Screen mode, set up your gauges on the Live tab as you want them and then press F11 or click Tools|Full Screen
Press Esc to quit out of Full Screen
I'll be putting some better features around full screen in an updated beta in the near future. Particularly, being able to specify the gauge definition file from the command line and launching full screen mode from a command line switch as well as quit out of full screen using the mouse.

Cheers

sco

I have a funny fealing that everyone will be running the 1.1 beta copy off the disc... :rolleyes:

I was an old beta tester for Microsoft in it's early days starting with Win95. I won't be able to resist just running your latest version beta or not. :)

The Targus adapter I use is model number PA088. Under my set up (Toshiba Tecra M2) you need to set the sCANalyser to COM4 (which I keep forgetting to do when I load the new version d'oh!)

Regarding version 1.1 (currently in beta)

We have provided it as side-by-side install to 1.0 :D That means you can have both installed at once, and don't need to uninstall/reinstall etc if you need to switch between the two.

Of course you could also run both of them together, but only one of them will be able to hold the serial port open.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Thanks for that Hymee.

Will install it tonight and test for you. Beauty... more toys for free :D

Regarding version 1.1 (currently in beta)

We have provided it as side-by-side install to 1.0 :D That means you can have both installed at once, and don't need to uninstall/reinstall etc if you need to switch between the two.

Of course you could also run both of them together, but only one of them will be able to hold the serial port open.

Cheers,
Hymee.
You can also share gauge setups between the two versions. So you could set up the gauges as you like them in Version 1.0. Use Save on the File menu to save the setup to disk. Then switch to 1.1 and open the file you saved. This saves you having to set up the gauges again.

Cheers

sco

For those in the US that have ordered sCANalyser.. you can track the package, once its entered at Los Angeles on the USPS site...

http://www.usps.com/shipping/trackandconfirm.htm

using the tracking number provided by Hymee et al. Mine cleared customs on 31 May!

Thanks Charles.

You can also track using this URL:
http://ice.auspost.com.au/

I recently had something sent express post from the US to Australia. I found it was better to track using the Australia Post site - it seemed to be a bit more up to date.

It might be actually worthwhile checking both sites... at times one could be more up to date than the other.

I just received the sCANalyser and installed version 1.0 and 1.1 beta. The programs launch OK but I am unable to connect to the vehicle. Let me tell you what I have done and hopefully you can tell me I'm being a dolt and missed something obvious.

Installed software
Connected cable to OBDII port / CAN interface box / Prolific Serial to USB cable / laptop
Start engine
Launched sCANalyser (tried 1.0 and 1.1 beta)
Changed communications port to COM5 (matches info listed in Device Manager)
Pressed F10 to connect
Error - connection timed out

I think that the mostly likely problem is the Serial to USB cable but so far it has worked flawlessly with my other applications (CANscan, Gtech, GPS, PDA...).

Any suggestions on how to get everything to play together nicely?

Just try different COM combinations. Also, you may need to keep 'refreshing' the connection attempt through re-pressing F10.

I finally got it to work by double checking all of the connections. I'm not sure which of the connections was loose but it works now. It is a very slick piece of software! :D

It couldn't have come at a better time. As I'm currently trying to trace down some odd behavior with a recently upgraded CZ unit and I'll be doing a bunch of data collecting over the next few days.

Hooray for the good guys!

Thanks a lot for that Speedy. I was fairly dumfounded. Out of all the beta testing people we had operating around the globe, we never had a report of this problem. Then one frome the first batch we sent after final release... D'oh.

We are thrilled you like our software. :cool: A number of workshops have expressed their delight in the ease of use of it.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Quick question. Is there anyway to do automatic sequential datalogs?

I'd like to set it up so that it starts logging when the throttle position is greater than 90% and stops when it drops below 90%. I also see where you can choose the destination of the file prior to starting the run but it would be nice if you could do 3-4 runs in a row without having to stop and enter a new file name. With some of the other programs I have used, they would allow sequential file naming if you placed a wildcard in the original file description. I think that this would really help to streamline the data collection process.

Keep up the great work! Now I'm off to collect some data. :)

Why would you want to do data logging in one gear only. Unless you keep the throttle open when changing up a gear ;)?

Squential logging is nice idea though.

I found I need to cool down the car for 2nd run anyway.

Speed Racer,

The log will run continuously until press the stop log button. When you hit a stop trigger it stops writing to the log file but doesn't stop logging. So when you hit the start trigger again you will get entries written the file again until you hit the stop trigger. You won't stop the logging process until you hit the Stop Log button. As a result you'll get multiple "runs" in the same file.

Would you prefer multiple runs in different files? If the answer is yes then I'll look to add this into the next release.

Sco is correct. Stop/Start triggers are not "single shot". They keep going. And the same with "start / stop" logging. It just appends to the same file when you start. You can identify the individual "runs" in the data by the gaps in the log times.

This is cool. A CanScan owner using sCANalyser to tune his CZ piggyback. :D :)

If this gets big we might have to have a dedicated forum for sCANalyser community to swap ideas, help each other etc.

Cheers,
Hymee.

That is a good idea.

I beta tested the goodies but still not sure how to apply to a few mods. I need help on those for sure.

Let's do it!

The only disappointing thing in the Lambda thing is the sensor cuts out too early. Mine at full throttle just touches it thanks god but some car I tested touch it whenever it hits 100% throttle.

If this gets big we might have to have a dedicated forum for sCANalyser community to swap ideas, help each other etc.


Yes, that is a great idea!

Sco is correct.
You missed a bit ... "always" between "is" and "correct". ;) :D :p

I'm hope I'm correct... I wrote the logging code .. If I don't know.. who does? :p ;) :D

The only disappointing thing in the Lambda thing is the sensor cuts out too early. Mine at full throttle just touches it thanks god but some car I tested touch it whenever it hits 100% throttle.

Can you explain that better? :confused:

Just bought one too to be hooked up to my carpc.

Vido,

And did I reply quick or not? Should be able to post it today.

Since it is 3rd June here and still the 2nd June in the USA, I hope that doesn't mean we are slow!

Cheers,
Hymee.

Very Quick Service!

Thanks Hymee.

Hope you guys release the API in the future. I want to add this device as a plugin into my carPC interface.

I'm very excited about it. Been waiting patiently for a long time.

-Thanks
-V

Vido,

The API is still under development and will be released soon. I'm interested to know how you intend to use it (e.g. how do you want it to plug in)... if you can fill me in it would help me make the API as developer friendly as possible.

Cheers

sco

WE soon soon have our Shipment.. for USA REsale..
FYI

Speed Racer,

The log will run continuously until press the stop log button. When you hit a stop trigger it stops writing to the log file but doesn't stop logging. So when you hit the start trigger again you will get entries written the file again until you hit the stop trigger. You won't stop the logging process until you hit the Stop Log button. As a result you'll get multiple "runs" in the same file.

Would you prefer multiple runs in different files? If the answer is yes then I'll look to add this into the next release.

Yeah, I'd prefer multiple runs in different files but for the time being the triggered start/stop works fine. No rush on this, as I can just split them into separate files when I open it in Excel.

Personally I'd rather see playback (w/ VCR like controls) of the data logs on the Live screen and be able to log knock retard in the next release.

I'm making a program I dub CarGUI in C# (I also know vb.net). It has 3 windows forms. The MainForm is covering the whole screen. The LaunchForm is on the left side and slides in/out. the ControlForm is at the bottom. The plugin is a dll assembly that implements the Core.IPlugin interface. In this interface are 2 important methods that will return the UserControl that will be placed on the MainForm and another for adding onto the ControlForm. The LaunchForm lets me switch plugin easily and displays other misc infomation. It's a pretty simple setup.

public interface IPlugin
{
string getVersion();
string getName();
string getDescription();

UserControl getControl(); // Main control placed on the MainForm
UserControl getControlDash(); //the controls for the plugin, placed on the ControlForm.

}

-V

Right now I have 2 plugins I'm working on. Plugin.GPS lets me use mappoint as my gps. Plugin.MediaPlayer lets me use media player to play music and anything else (if you install lots of codec).

Other Plugins
-----------
Plugin.sCANalyser
Plugin.Camera
Plugin.Web
Plugin.TV
Plugin.Radio

if anyone has any other ideas for plugin let me know.

-V

I'm glad we got your off to you quickly V!

We have found out some interesting "things" about pay pal. Our "very first" customer payed via pay-pal with something known as an eCheck. Even though he had a proportion of the funds already in his paypal account, it took 6 days for it to clear and be "confirmed". as such he was very dissapointed that he had paid express post. We have sorted this issue out between us, and he has some talks to PayPal about it.

What we are doing is putting a note on the Hymee site regarding PayPal payments with eCheck take some time to clear.

Just thought I would draw this to everyones attention just in case.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Yeah, I'd prefer multiple runs in different files but for the time being the triggered start/stop works fine. No rush on this, as I can just split them into separate files when I open it in Excel.

Personally I'd rather see playback (w/ VCR like controls) of the data logs on the Live screen and be able to log knock retard in the next release.
Thanks for the feedback. We'll look at multiple files sometime in the future.

I've already got a prototype version of VCR like controls going... just needs a bit of tidy up before I can drop it into a new beta. :) Knock Retard, like the rest of the non-standard data is coming too. My aim is to be able to get these onto the same set of gauges that shows standard data.

Cheers

sco

Looks like just what I need.

A few questions, though:

What variables can be logged? Is there a list somewhere you could publish?
I was only able to leaf through the last 10-12 pages of this thread, so maybe I missed something.

[B]Can mpg be logged? Can mpg be turned into a gauge?[B] That, for me, would be a huge asset.

Is there any chance the manual could be made available, so we can see what the Scanalyzer is capable of?

Thanks,

El Kabong

Hi El Kabong,

There is a list of the parameters the RX-8 supports here:
http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=816595&postcount=311

MPG can't be logged at the moment, nor turned into a circular gauge. We're looking to change that but it may not be for a version or two. However, you can log the source data (MAF, Widerange O2 readings and vehicle speed) and we can help you with the formula to calculate it.

Cheers

sco

Hymee, Sco,

Got a phone call from Customs on Friday. Your first European shipment is already in Belgium and will be delivered to me on Monday.

Thanks,

Fabrice

Hymee, Sco,

Got a phone call from Customs on Friday. Your first European shipment is already in Belgium and will be delivered to me on Monday.

Thanks,

Fabrice

Good news. I hope the European interest is high!

Cheers,
Hymee.

Can you explain that better? :confused:
Nemesis,

What is the lowest lambda value that the RX-8 senses Hymee help..

0.75 something.. some car I have seen Hymee tested hits that mark and gets below it and hence has a flat line.

The top value is easy to remember 1.349 (it hit all the time when there is no pressure to throttle).

Therefore, for cars that are very rich. The value is out of the range (0.75 - 1.349) that the car picks up. Hence, my disaapointment.

2 rasputin: Email me when you are ready to ship :)

2 rasputin: Email me when you are ready to ship :) Just did, before reading your post. How professional is that!?;)

The sCANalysers for Europe ARE IN!

Fabrice (11-fold Hymee Enhanced today)

Heads UP USA I have THE LINK UP NOW you can reserve you sCAnalyser (http://www.mazdaparts.com/ProductDetail.jsp?LISTID=1170000-1117934515) now! .
Price Includes USA Shipping.

Thanks Hymee. !!

Umm.. sorry if it's already been mention in this thread, but 40 or pages is a lot to sieve thru.
Does this tool come in a version that runs on a pocketpc???
Just think it would be cool to have it run on my XDAII mini especially if it links via bluetooth

LittleJohn,

A Pocket PC version is currently under development. The interface connects via direct serial link. You could connect a bluetooth to serial adapter to the interface and use that to enable bluetooth. This is not a scenario we have tested, but if you want give it a go we will support you as best we can.

Cheers

sco

LittleJohn,

A Pocket PC version is currently under development. The interface connects via direct serial link. You could connect a bluetooth to serial adapter to the interface and use that to enable bluetooth. This is not a scenario we have tested, but if you want give it a go we will support you as best we can.

Cheers

sco


Sco, I'll take you up on that ;)

Direct serial link??? how many PocketPCs have a serial port??? I thought most the new ones were USB

Therefore, for cars that are very rich. The value is out of the range (0.75 - 1.349) that the car picks up. Hence, my disaapointment.

OK, now I see what you were saying.

I think this is a limitation of the OEM WBO2 sensor on our cars. If I remember correctly, the sensor can only read values down to 12.1 AFR. The CAN bus simply won't show anything lower than that. Since the readout is in Lambda, what is the conversion to AFR? Is it (Lambda)*(14.63)=AFR?

Hymee,
Somewhere in the posts I read of a "tuner version" What is different about that? Are you building in the knock retard sensor so we can tune right up to the limit?

Thanks - My order is in LA right now, so I'm getting closer to owning one :)

something doesn't seem right if your bearly reaching a .75 lambda (~11.0 a/f ratio)... I know these things run rich, but not that rich :eek:

Just received mine today :)

something doesn't seem right if your bearly reaching a .75 lambda (~11.0 a/f ratio)... I know these things run rich, but not that rich :eek:
Oh yes they do!!! In order to keep catalyst temps under 960°C!
I've seen production engines running as rich as 9.5 AFR when I was at Ford, athough it was due to a calibration error. The calibrator was actually targeting 10.5 AFR!

Fabrice

Oh yes they do!!! In order to keep catalyst temps under 960°C!
I've seen production engines running as rich as 9.5 AFR when I was at Ford, athough it was due to a calibration error. The calibrator was actually targeting 10.5 AFR!

Fabrice

ok, I can see if your severly overheating the cat it will richen up that much. But under normal conditions (like taka i believe is talking about) there is something wrong if he is bearly showing 11.0 a/f ratio - my car was right around 12.6:1 at WOT

Hymee,
Somewhere in the posts I read of a "tuner version" What is different about that? Are you building in the knock retard sensor so we can tune right up to the limit?

Knock retard will is one of the Mazda proprietary parameters and will be available when we release the version including those parameters.

The features set for a tuner edition and a release date aren't set at the moment.

Sco, I'll take you up on that ;)

Direct serial link??? how many PocketPCs have a serial port??? I thought most the new ones were USB
Great. Most Pocket PCs have support for both serial and USB and I'm sure there are serial cables for the mini. I actually have an iMate JAM which I use day to day (which is the same hardware that O2 rebrands to the XDAII mini) .... so you can be pretty confident that we'll be getting it working on that device.

Cheers

sco

Are you going to start a new thread for support? Or should we e-mail you off the website?

I have everything installed, and when I go to connect, I get an "Access Denied" dialog box. Any clues? Thanks in advance.

Please email support@hymee.com - that will get you the quickest responses.

It sounds like something else is holding the serial port open. You're not running ActiveSync are you? If so, check if it's listening on the com port you're using and if so, turn it off.

OK, sent you an e-mail

ok, I can see if your severly overheating the cat it will richen up that much. But under normal conditions (like taka i believe is talking about) there is something wrong if he is bearly showing 11.0 a/f ratio - my car was right around 12.6:1 at WOT
I was talking of normal conditions, 3rd or 4th gear acceleration, WOT. See attachment.

Any reviews on this pruduct yet hows it working i see a few are having problems???

oh well just bought one hope it goood!!!

Can't provide a report yet, but will soon.

Received mine today, took 10 days after order via the "Standard" slow snail mail option.

Any reviews on this pruduct yet hows it working i see a few are having problems???

My probem is with my Belkin USB adaptor we think. I can get it working, and it is awesome with the Live gauges on the screen. I highly recommend owning a copy. :D

Ok thanks guys i ordered mines express hope it comes quick because i have a cell.

Ok thanks guys i ordered mines express hope it comes quick because i have a cell.
A dyno-cell? Or a CEL? ;)

lol cel

maybe he meant jail cell :eek:

We take support issues very seriously and I'm pretty sure we have responded to all emails either same day or next day (and next day has been mostly due to timezone differences).

I don't think it's appropriate to discuss individual support cases publicly. We've had a number of support emails, all but one person has had their issues resolved quickly, and that person has been patiently assisting us to work through to identify the cause of and resolve their issues. I have one other open case with connectivity issues and we're working to identify the cause at the moment.

I hope everyone that has used support so far has been happy with the response. If you're not we'd appreciate your feedback on how we could be better - email us at support@hymee.com.

As mentioned in an earlier post, I received my sCANalyser yesterday. Last night I downloaded the v1.0 into my laptop & scanned through the documentation, printing out the pages to review over lunch today.

This morning I gave myself 15 extra minutes before heading to work. So I brought everything to the RX-8 (including my Lindy Serial to UBS Adapter, which required a driver download), plugged it in to the OBD Port, and the unit connected up with no issues. Rating -- Excellent

The documentation is fairly detailed, so a novice computer user should be able to follow the directions for proper set-up & customization of the dials. I left it connected for my 38 mile commute, and the gauge readings changed almost instantaneously.
Documentation Rating -- Very Good
Gauge response Rating -- Excellent

I have not had time to log & plot yet, but I am most impressed with how easy the install & start-up went.
Rating -- TBD

Did you buy your Lindy from their website?

Did you buy your Lindy from their website?

Yep -- followed the link provided by Hymee in an earlier post on this thread.

Any reviews on this pruduct yet hows it working i see a few are having problems???
Very few have problem now... you are suggesting beta testers like us is not doing our work ....

hehe just kidding.

Any problem can be fixed... soft ware fix is easy. Hardware is rock solid.

I have a question for US car owners that have a sCANalyser...

It looks like there are some differences between the OBD support in US cars over Australian cars. Below is a screen shot of the test monitoring information on an Australian vehicle:

http://www.hymee.com/images/monitoring.jpg

The following is a screen shot from a US vehicle:
http://www.hymee.com/sco/capture5.jpg

So I'm wondering if all US cars produce the same results, or maybe there is some variation for California calibration vehicles, or a PCM flash update added some more data???

It's almost no effort to add in the data to map the numbers above to descriptions. I'll add that to the next maintenance release. I'll also reformat the display to make it more readable.

Cheers

sco

Following up on my own post... these tests are documented in the US workshop manual. Interesting that we don't get them in Australia.
58-60 are Evap leak tests.
61 is an Evap purge test.
In the OBD spec 162 is a generic misfire count, 163 is a misfire count for cylinder 1. I'd hazard a guess that 162 is front rotor misfire count and 163 is rear rotor.

It's almost like we have a "lite" edition of the management systems.. More processor time available for performance management.. I wonder if Australian cars are faster than their US equivalents... :rolleyes:

This is the kind of info you can get with a sCANalyser in order to understand how your RX8 works : http://rx8ownersclub.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7864&highlight=

Awesome post Rasputin. I was wondering about this the other night. I often play with the accelerator and throttle position settings as it is one of the few data items that can changed rapidly without starting the motor (i.e. I use it often when I want to test sCANalyser, particularly late at night when I don't want to open the garage door (waking the house) and rev the engine (wake the neighbourhood). I can concur with your engine not started graph - it matches my experience in that testing - although it has only been by eye watching a circular gauge move as I press the accelerator.

Thanks Sco,

My next studies are :
- close loop / open loop fuelling
- AFR table

I need an info though. From now on, for most logs, I'd like to use Engine Load as an input, in lieu of TPS, as it is Load that is used in the PCM for most tables and fucntions. If I remember correctly, there are 2 or even 3 different LOAD inputs available from the list of Live parameters. Are they OBD parameters or "SCO" calculated values. If they are calculated, can you give me the formula to check how accurate they are.

Cheers,

Fabrice

LoadCalculated and LoadAbsolute are the raw values provided by the PCM - I don't do any calculations.

According to the OBD spec --
Load Calculated = [current airflow] / [(peak airflow at WOT@STP as a function of rpm) * (BARO/29.92) * SQRT(298/(AAT+273))]
STP = Standard Temperature and Pressure = 25 °C, 29.92 in Hg BARO
SQRT = square root,
WOT = wide open throttle
AAT = Ambient Air Temperature and is in °C

Given that it's comparison is against "peak airflow at WOT@STP as a function of rpm" then it will not exceed 100% for NA and FI engines. LoadAbsolute is a different story.

LoadAbsolute = [air mass (g / intake stroke)] / [1.184 (g / intake stroke) * cylinder displacement in litres]

This is derived from:
air mass (g / intake stroke) = [total engine air mass (g/sec)] / [rpm (revs/min)* (1 min / 60 sec) * (1/2 # of
cylinders (strokes / rev)],
LoadAbsolute = [air mass (g)/intake stroke] / [maximum air mass (g)/intake stroke at WOT@STP at 100% volumetric efficiency] * 100%.

Thus LoadAbsolute will typically reach to just below 100% for NA, and up to 400% for boosted engines.

Thanks Ross, with this and the rest I'm all set now.

Fabrice

Fabrice,

I'm actually looking to do a similar thing at the moment. My car is booked in for a service (and a PCM flash) in just over a week's time and I want to do a before and after fuel map comparison. If you want to collaborate.... you know where to find me :)

sco

LoadCalculated and LoadAbsolute are the raw values provided by the PCM - I don't do any calculations.

According to the OBD spec --
Load Calculated = [current airflow] / [(peak airflow at WOT@STP as a function of rpm) * (BARO/29.92) * SQRT(298/(AAT+273))]
STP = Standard Temperature and Pressure = 25 °C, 29.92 in Hg BARO
SQRT = square root,
WOT = wide open throttle
AAT = Ambient Air Temperature and is in °C

Given that it's comparison is against "peak airflow at WOT@STP as a function of rpm" then it will not exceed 100% for NA and FI engines. LoadAbsolute is a different story.

LoadAbsolute = [air mass (g / intake stroke)] / [1.184 (g / intake stroke) * cylinder displacement in litres]

This is derived from:
air mass (g / intake stroke) = [total engine air mass (g/sec)] / [rpm (revs/min)* (1 min / 60 sec) * (1/2 # of
cylinders (strokes / rev)],
LoadAbsolute = [air mass (g)/intake stroke] / [maximum air mass (g)/intake stroke at WOT@STP at 100% volumetric efficiency] * 100%.

Thus LoadAbsolute will typically reach to just below 100% for NA, and up to 400% for boosted engines.
You should write a book about this???

"sCANalyser data analysis for dummies" :p

Fabrice,

I'm actually looking to do a similar thing at the moment. My car is booked in for a service (and a PCM flash) in just over a week's time and I want to do a before and after fuel map comparison. If you want to collaborate.... you know where to find me :)

sco OK, first I'll have a look at your LOAD stuff do decide which one to use once for all.
Later today.

Fabrice (member of the sCANalyser community...)

LoadCalculated and LoadAbsolute are the raw values provided by the PCM - I don't do any calculations.

According to the OBD spec --
Load Calculated = [current airflow] / [(peak airflow at WOT@STP as a function of rpm) * (BARO/29.92) * SQRT(298/(AAT+273))]
STP = Standard Temperature and Pressure = 25 °C, 29.92 in Hg BARO
SQRT = square root,
WOT = wide open throttle
AAT = Ambient Air Temperature and is in °C

Given that it's comparison is against "peak airflow at WOT@STP as a function of rpm" then it will not exceed 100% for NA and FI engines. LoadAbsolute is a different story.

LoadAbsolute = [air mass (g / intake stroke)] / [1.184 (g / intake stroke) * cylinder displacement in litres]

This is derived from:
air mass (g / intake stroke) = [total engine air mass (g/sec)] / [rpm (revs/min)* (1 min / 60 sec) * (1/2 # of
cylinders (strokes / rev)],
LoadAbsolute = [air mass (g)/intake stroke] / [maximum air mass (g)/intake stroke at WOT@STP at 100% volumetric efficiency] * 100%.

Thus LoadAbsolute will typically reach to just below 100% for NA, and up to 400% for boosted engines.
Sco,

LOAD_ABS = [air mass (g / intake stroke)] / [1.184 (g / intake stroke) * cylinder displacement in litres]
= [total engine air mass (g/sec)] / [rpm (revs/min)* (1 min / 60 sec) * (1/2 # of
cylinders (strokes / rev)*1.184 * cylinder displacement in litres]
= AM / [ N * ENGCYL * SARCHG] = Ford EEC LOAD !!! That's the one I'm gonna use from now on as it probbaly is the load input in most tables in the calibration.

Fabrice

It would be interesting to look at the load values reported versus those calculated purely based on MAF... to see if those formulas are actually used.

It would be interesting to look at the load values reported versus those calculated purely based on MAF... to see if those formulas are actually used.
They should be based on MAFS readings, excepted in the backflow region where an inferred value is used, unless the MAFS can measure backflow too.

One issue though, looking at the data. As LOAD_ABS is limited to 100% in the displays, any value above 100% comes out substracted by 100. Ex : 104.5% LOAD_ABS gives 4.05% in the log file. It's easily corrected as it happens in WOT conditions. I've seen values up to 1.1 (110%) load !! Good intake tuning!

Fabrice

I'll double check the calculations, but it sounds like the PCM on the RX-8 must be doing this... the OBD spec permits LoadAbsolute to go to 25700%. What is displayed on a gauge doesn't affect what is logged. I'll also tweak the LoadAbsolute gauge for the '8 to go to 110%.

Hymee saw similar intake behaviour, documented here: http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=33370

I'll double check the calculations, but it sounds like the PCM on the RX-8 must be doing this... the OBD spec permits LoadAbsolute to go to 25700%. What is displayed on a gauge doesn't affect what is logged. I'll also tweak the LoadAbsolute gauge for the '8 to go to 110%.


OK, good. Anyway, not a real problem as I mentionned.

Thx,

Fabrice

I have a question for US car owners that have a sCANalyser...

It looks like there are some differences between the OBD support in US cars over Australian cars. Below is a screen shot of the test monitoring information on an Australian vehicle:

http://www.hymee.com/images/monitoring.jpg

The following is a screen shot from a US vehicle:
http://www.hymee.com/sco/capture5.jpg

So I'm wondering if all US cars produce the same results, or maybe there is some variation for California calibration vehicles, or a PCM flash update added some more data???

It's almost no effort to add in the data to map the numbers above to descriptions. I'll add that to the next maintenance release. I'll also reformat the display to make it more readable.

Cheers

sco

sco,
Sorry it took so long, but here is my readout headings on a RX-8 in Alabama USA:

Monitor Test
O2SensorBank1Sensor1 Response lean to rich
O2SensorBank1Sensor1 Response rich to lean
O2SensorBank1Sensor2 Rich to lean sensor threshold voltage (constant)
O2SensorBank1Sensor2 Low sensor voltage for switch time calculation
O2SensorBank1Sensor2 High sensor voltage for switch time calculation (constant)
O2SensorBank1Sensor2 Rich to lean sensor switch time (calculated)
CatalystMonitorBank1 Front and rear HO2S switching time ratio
58 Manufacturer specific test number 128 (80 hex)
59 Manufacturer specific test number 128 (80 hex)
60 Manufacturer specific test number 128 (80 hex)
61 Manufacturer specific test number 128 (80 hex)
S SecondaryAirMonitor1 Secondary airflow test

Thanks rxeightr... really appreciate you taking time to post that.

This confirms my suspicions. Not only are there differences in RX-8s in different countries, there appears to be some variation in US cars.

Cheers

sco

Why is this I wonder?

I suspect there have been some refinements to the PCM software over time. I also wonder if cars running California flash versions might also be different.

If we had enough people with sCANalysers and different PCM software flash versions we could do a comparison between flash versions and what data is reported to see if that is true.

hymee, sco... in subsequent versions can you change it so that live and log parameters can be switched while the scanalyser and car are disconnected ? It's kind of a hassle to have to do that while car is running.

Looks great so far

Why do you want to log.. while the car is disconnected to the laptop.

Oh i guess you want to change the gauges without the PCM being switched on... that make sense :p

I've been thinking about that. The challenge is that we query the vehicle to see what parameters are supported (what I call the vehicle capabilities). I'll look into some solutions - maybe we can cache the last set of vehicle capabilities so you can do some preparation offline.

In the meantime there are a few things you can do to make life a little easier:
1. Save your gauge configuration (using File|Save) so you can reload something preconfigured with File|Load at a later date.
2. There is nothing stopping you turning the key to ON (not starting the vehicle) then do a Connect in sCANalyser and then turning the key to off and do your setup, then start and go. sCANalyser will handle this just fine.

Thanks for the feedback. I'll publish some plans and an update on where things are at in the next few days. I'll give you a bit of a hint... starting this week sco is working on sCANalyser pretty much full time.

VIN JM1FE173140127589 VIN Status 5 - RDR-VIN

Model / Year RX8 6P / 2004 Country US - UNITED STATES O Warranty Start Date
06/24/2005
Exterior Color 27B - WINNING BLUE Retail Dealer 51460 State NJ
Dealer 51460 State NJ
Retail Date 06/24/2005
Interior Color F3 - BLACK Wholesale Demo Date
Engine No 13B 458796 Engine ER - ROTARY RENESIS(2R) Assembly Date 12/02/2003
Transmission T9 - 6-SPEED MANUAL TRANS Drive REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Emissions C - CALIFORNIA EMISSION
Key Code xxxxxx

POE NK - PORT JERSEY CITY, NJ IP NK - PORT JERSEY CITY, NJ

Accessories AAF - POLISHED FRONT ROTARY ACCENT AAR - POLISHED REAR ROTARY ACCENT
ADD - FRONT AIR DAM CDC - IN-DASH 6-DISC CD CHANGER
CGN - CARGO NET DT1 - FAUX LEATHER DOOR TRIM
FLM - CARPET FLOOR MATS FL2 - FOG LAMPS
FOL - PORTFOLIO HL1 - XENON HEADLIGHTS
HM1 - HEATED MIRRORS LS1 - LEATHER SEATING SURFACES
MC2 - AUTO DAY/NIGHT MIRROR W/HOMELI MR1 - MOONROOF
PW4 - HEATED SEATS PW6 - PWR SEATS/6 WAY DRVR/LUMBAR
RAF - REAR AERO FLARES RA3 - PREMIUM SOUND SYSTEM
SIL - SIDE AERO FLARES STR
TC2 - DSC WITH TRACTION CONTROL WLK
1GT - GRAND TOURING PKG M/T 2AP - APPEARANCE PACKAGE
2RP - ROTARY ACCENT PACKAGE -

Sco, the above is the delivery info of an inventory NJ car that was shipped to CA for retail sale. Note the emissions info. This particular car was reflashed in California prior to delivery to the customer. I'd say it's likely that California has a different flash to suit the strict environmental laws there. I'll see if I can get that confirmed.

Gomez.

When the car makes the connection, the available "gauges" are read from the PCM, and only those are made available to the sCANalyser user. The engine doesn't need to be running, just the ignition on. But I understand your requirement.

Cheers,
Hymee.

I know i will get bashed for this probably but i have searched for two nights and cannot find it! I saw a thread or a site that told me how to make the charts, (and maybe something about a/f correction if needed with hymees) and now I can not find it anywhere. I did one set of charts before i was turboed about two months ago and have forgotten how to handle the excel pivot table/chart. PLEASE someone help me :)

zoom zoom 8... There is a section on this in the back of the sCANalyser manual.

Now with regards to AFR correction, there is no need to do this. sCANalyser reports the data from the Wideband O2 sensor as provided by the PCM. Our testing has shown this to be accurate in comparison to a Motec O2 sensor. We recommend using Lambda (called Equivalence Ratio in sCANalyser as that is what it is called in the OBD specification), not AFR - to use AFR you have to know the stoichiometric ratio of your fuel. With lambda you don't need to know what the stoich ratio is - 1.0 lambda is always stoich.

If you want to read some more about this it's being discussed at the moment here: http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?p=962379&postcount=18

hey, how do i get that info about tire pressures to display on the unit? I vaguely remember Hymee showing off this huge data dump. smirk

Zaku-8 -- I'm working on that right at the moment. I'm doing a bunch of changes to the core of sCANalyser (all the behind the scenes stuff you don't see - kind of like the gears in a traditional watch) to enable a bunch of new cool features, including accessing all the proprietary data. The aim is to be able to get proprietary data and standard data on the gauges at the same time... e.g. so you could tune using O2 readings, MAF, Timing Advance, Throttle Position and Knock Retard. These changes will be made available to existing customers at no charge.

Unfortunately I don't have access to a car that has TPMS, so I'll be releasing a beta for you guys to try and check it works OK.

I need to write up a post on what we're up to.

Get to work!!

Ouch :eek: that whip hurts! ;)

Question,

Does this product read all the DTC's?? I have Canscan and cannot read certain DTC's associated with aspects of the car other than MIL indicator. (I know I have DTC's)

Hey guys, trying to graph my a/f throughout the rpm range but I cannot get the rpm to just be represented by the rpm number and the a/f to be the only line in the chart. Can someone take a look at my chart and let me know what to do to get rid of the rpm line and just have the rpm numbers on the left hand side? Thanks

chris

Hey guys, trying to graph my a/f throughout the rpm range but I cannot get the rpm to just be represented by the rpm number and the a/f to be the only line in the chart. Can someone take a look at my chart and let me know what to do to get rid of the rpm line and just have the rpm numbers on the left hand side? Thanks

chris
You could change the color of the RPM line to white :)

Question,

Does this product read all the DTC's?? I have Canscan and cannot read certain DTC's associated with aspects of the car other than MIL indicator. (I know I have DTC's)

yes

wouldnt you rather have rpm at the bottm and AF on the left? and then not graph the time.

i have to admit to not spending much time with my scanalyser recently but a thought occured- if it can read the odometer plus speed and graph the time of the run couldnt we use it to get 1/4 mile speed's and ETs? wouldnt be exactly accurate but it would be as close as the cars sensors could make it:)

Wow, I took my CZ out to go in for my 30K service, and made a quick run to see my AFR. Here is a quick chart from the sCANalyser log. Can't wait to put it back in.

see thats what im saying that is graphing AF over time and RPM over time but not AF over RPM- at least it is hard to read AF over RPM. what is your AF at 6000 rpm?

see thats what im saying that is graphing AF over time and RPM over time but not AF over RPM- at least it is hard to read AF over RPM. what is your AF at 6000 rpm? I'm still learning pivot table in Excel, so here is the raw data from the log on both sides of 6,000 RPM. Looks like 12.5 or 12.6 AFR if I use 14.64 as stoich.

Image is easier to read

i have to admit to not spending much time with my scanalyser recently but a thought occured- if it can read the odometer plus speed and graph the time of the run couldnt we use it to get 1/4 mile speed's and ETs? wouldnt be exactly accurate but it would be as close as the cars sensors could make it:)

won't need to buy a gtech timer then :D

Question,

Does this product read all the DTC's?? I have Canscan and cannot read certain DTC's associated with aspects of the car other than MIL indicator. (I know I have DTC's)
What DTCs in particular are you talking about?

wouldnt you rather have rpm at the bottm and AF on the left? and then not graph the time.

i have to admit to not spending much time with my scanalyser recently but a thought occured- if it can read the odometer plus speed and graph the time of the run couldnt we use it to get 1/4 mile speed's and ETs? wouldnt be exactly accurate but it would be as close as the cars sensors could make it:)
Yep... don't necessarily even need to get the ODO reading as you can derive distance from speed and time. I think I mentioned I'm doing some changes to enable some cool features. Wouldn't a feature like that be cool? It may not make the next major release. But it is on the feature list.

There are some other cool features I've got planned to help people doing tuning and who want to understand the impact of modifications they're making... I don't want to much say for competitive reasons because I think some of them are pretty innovative.

excellent!! glad i could help;)

wouldnt you rather have rpm at the bottm and AF on the left? and then not graph the time.

i have to admit to not spending much time with my scanalyser recently but a thought occured- if it can read the odometer plus speed and graph the time of the run couldnt we use it to get 1/4 mile speed's and ETs? wouldnt be exactly accurate but it would be as close as the cars sensors could make it:)
thanks, i will give it a shot and try it, why didn't i think of that?

i have to admit to not spending much time with my scanalyser recently but a thought occured- if it can read the odometer plus speed and graph the time of the run couldnt we use it to get 1/4 mile speed's and ETs? wouldnt be exactly accurate but it would be as close as the cars sensors could make it:)

I did that awhile ago - it works reasonably well IMO as long as you don't launch with a massive burnout.

You can also convert rpms and time or speed and time and a bunch of other correction factors to get hp and torque the way it would be represented on a chassis dyno - that seems to require alot of data smoothing though (well at least with the oldschool canscan it did - perhaps the scanalyzer would be better... be willing to try it if someone would like to give me a file of rpms and time for a single gear pull and an approx temperature when you did it). I used this method along with an accelerometer extensively when i was tuning my CZ.

I'm still learning pivot table in Excel, so here is the raw data from the log on both sides of 6,000 RPM. Looks like 12.5 or 12.6 AFR if I use 14.64 as stoich.

Image is easier to read

kevin what excel do you have? my wife and i were tryingto sort the data differently so it would be easier to graph. apparently a newer version than 2000 lets you sort and "expand" according to Ajax. which does exactly what we need. here is my data and then the data after having the Ajax treatment. once its like this the graphing is much easier. here's one of my graphs also.

kevin what excel do you have?
I'm using Excel 2003. Change the scale of your Lambda to have .6 as the minimum to get better resolution for your AFR.

yeah yeah .6 fixed and re attached. the point i was making is that if you do the sort this way you can plot any of them on x or y . Time if you want or not. Unless im missing something"and i probably am;)) the pivot table when you chart it always has the time as x axis. this is hard for me to read when im trying to see the change in the afr over the rpm range. this sort and expand way allows you to sort them out but use the time just as any other value. and chart it or not and put therpm on the x.

Where is Ajax's spreadsheet?

his is in the bottom half of the first pic. i took a prnt screen cause the spreadsheet wont post. the top haldf is the normal "raw" form then below that is the sort /expand by ajax. it now looks like the pivot table but is not bound by its restrictions.

p.s. this is embarrasing but- wha tis the value the maf is giving? on the live gauge it says "gS" or somethign i just dotn have aclue what that is... :o

grams per second

Everyone,

We've had a request to change the log file format to make it a bit easier to use in Excel (i.e. not use pivot tables). This is a feature I wanted to put in the first release but didn't make the cut when we were triaging features to get that version out the door.

I'm planning on making the log file to be written in different formats in the upcoming release (that I'm still in the middle of making changes for).

In the meantime, for those of you who want this feature I've written a little utility. You can download it here: http://www.hymee.com/downloads/LogCnv.zip .

This utility will take an existing log file and convert it into a table format with one row per timestamp rather than one row for each individual data item.

To use it extract the .zip into the directory you store your log files. Then open a command prompt, change to that directory then to convert you type in:

logcnv input.csv output.csv

Where input.csv is the name of the log file you want to convert and output.csv is the name of the converted file.

Hope this helps. If you have any hassles with it, send an email to support@hymee.com and include the file you're trying to convert as an attachment.

Cheers

sco

Also, now is the time for any requests for changes or feature suggestions if you haven't already asked. I'm in the middle of the next release and will be locking down the feature set very soon.

hey Sco can you PM me your email address? I have Mark's but want to send you a DB file and had a few questions about AFR readings

Thanks

2;

Ive found I cannot start a log without having the live tab running. Is that normal?

Can you include an option in the log tab to be able to click anywhere in the screen to start/stop the log, without needing a trigger? I'm thinking a button next to the current start button that leads to a second huge button that unconditionally starts, then stops the log, then disappears.

As it is, its fine, but it would make logging a bit easier in certain situations. I wonder if i am the only person who would like to see this.

Everyone,

We've had a request to change the log file format to make it a bit easier to use in Excel (i.e. not use pivot tables). This is a feature I wanted to put in the first release but didn't make the cut when we were triaging features to get that version out the door.

I'm planning on making the log file to be written in different formats in the upcoming release (that I'm still in the middle of making changes for).

In the meantime, for those of you who want this feature I've written a little utility. You can download it here: http://www.hymee.com/downloads/LogCnv.zip .

This utility will take an existing log file and convert it into a table format with one row per timestamp rather than one row for each individual data item.

To use it extract the .zip into the directory you store your log files. Then open a command prompt, change to that directory then to convert you type in:

logcnv input.csv output.csv

Where input.csv is the name of the log file you want to convert and output.csv is the name of the converted file.

Hope this helps. If you have any hassles with it, send an email to support@hymee.com and include the file you're trying to convert as an attachment.

Cheers

sco
Great stuff, Sco!

Thanks,

Fabrice

Ive found I cannot start a log without having the live tab running. Is that normal?

Can you include an option in the log tab to be able to click anywhere in the screen to start/stop the log, without needing a trigger? I'm thinking a button next to the current start button that leads to a second huge button that unconditionally starts, then stops the log, then disappears.

As it is, its fine, but it would make logging a bit easier in certain situations. I wonder if i am the only person who would like to see this.
At the moment logging won't log anything until the live feed is started. I've been thinking of putting in something to ask you if you want to start live when you start logging (if it's not already started).

It wouldn't be too hard for me to set it up so if you click anywhere on the live tab (i.e. on one of the gauges or the space in between) it starts logging and stops it again. I'd probably have an option on logging tab like "Clicking anywhere on the live tab starts and stops logging" so you can choose if you want this turned on or not.

Any comments on this appreciated.

That would be helpful, esp. while doing these things on a notebook in the car seat beside you :)

Hmm... didn't you read the warnings at the start of the manual :eek:

You guys want this feature because your passenger might have trouble hitting a button if the road's a bit bumpy... right? :cool:

Hmm... didn't you read the warnings at the start of the manual :eek:

You guys want this feature because your passenger might have trouble hitting a button if the road's a bit bumpy... right? :cool:

right ;)





/actually my girlfriend graciously spends time driving my car as I tinker with the program...I don't think she minds though :)

actually my girlfriend graciously spends time driving my car as I tinker with the program...I don't think she minds though :)LOL... I do the same. Mine has a lead foot and she doesn't mind taking the '8 out.... except...
sco "I thought I said to keep it under 3000rpm while it's stone motherless cold"
g/f "I am. I am"
sco (points at tell-tale on the RPM gauge) "What's this thing pointing at five and a half thousand then?"

Everyone,

Sorry for the long post... If you're short on time look for the bold text for the key points.

First let me apologise for taking so long to update you with where we're at with the next version of sCANalyser :o . It's taken alot longer to get here than I anticipated. A few good things have happened along the way. Let me explain.

Hymee and I have formalised our partnership and created a company called Performance Design Australia... so you'll see a little bit of a branding change. Hymee's "stamp of approval" still goes on our RX-8 products, so Hymee Enhanced will still be around but you'll be seeing us using Performance Design Australia as the company name. It's just a name change... The people are still the same. Setting all this up has chewed up a lot of time.

We've also had some opportunities presented along the way to do some R&D on some really cool stuff that we hope to add into sCANalyser in the future. I don't want to talk about this yet, for reasons I'll go into shortly. We had to take time out from development of the next version to do that R&D because there was a window of opportunity to do that R&D and if we didn't take it we would have missed it.

You'll also notice that I've stopped talking publicly about new features. There are a couple of reasons for that. Some of the things we've been doing with sCANalyser have been better than some of the existing tools out there ... And what we've been doing may have been copied. So to maximise our success, which means our ability to keep supporting the product and add new features we've deliberately taken the decision to not talk too much about innovation in sCANalyser so we don't give people a head start on what we're doing. Also, it appears that there are competitors out there who have a goal of putting small guys like us out of business and I don't want to give them any help by talking about innovative stuff before it becomes available. I'm really sorry we have to do this but it has become a necessity.

Please continue to send us feedback... We want to hear it. If something you suggest is really cool we'll still include it, but we may just not say that we will publicly until it is "baked".

So with that out of the way let me bring you all up to speed as to where we're at. We're about to release a new beta version of sCANalyser. It has some stuff you all want... Access to non-standard information such as Knock Retard and graphing. We've also listened to all of your feedback and I hope everyone who has requested some changes will be happy. I'm still tidying up some of those feature requests, so if they're not in beta we release shortly, don't despair - I hope to have them added in prior to the final release. Don't be afraid to ask me if something you expected isn't there... I'm pretty sure I've got a complete list, but you never know. There are also other cool features that I'm sure you'll love but I'll save them for a surprise. Best of all, they will be made available to everyone who has a sCANalyser for no cost. A lot of the new features were things we wanted in the first release of the software but didn't have time to do.

Important... We're crossing T's and dotting I's again.. I can't tell you yet exactly when we'll release the beta, but we want those of you who are interested in helping us test this new version to know as soon as it is. I have a fixed list of things to get done before I release it and as soon as that list is done and testing shows we've got a reasonably stable version then we'll release.

To get access to this beta version when it becomes available, please email beta@performancedesign.com.au with a short email asking to be added to our beta email list and also let us know what your sCANalyser serial number is (the number on the back of the black box interface).

We may not respond immediately.. give us a few days... we're focused getting through all the outstanding tasks as quickly as possible.

In getting access to the beta version we ask some small favours:
1. You don't talk about the new features publicly for reasons I've outlined above unless of course I've already discussed them publicly.
2. You expect to hit a few bugs. The purpose of a beta is to have you test the software under normal use. This helps us by capturing any use that we didn't anticipate (and thus didn't test). It also gets us feedback on new features before we lock down the final release (so we can tweak any major issues). We'd appreciate it if you report any bugs direct to us at beta@performancedesign.com.au. Please don't talk about them publicly (for the same reasons I outlined above). If we come across an issue that seems like it affects more than one or two people I'll send everyone who signed up for the beta an email describing the issue and what course of action to take.

I hope that's not too bold of me to ask.

I'm working as quickly as I can to get this out to you... I really appreciate your patience. I hope it will be rewarded.

Finally thankyou to everyone who has purchased sCANalyser and also thanks to everyone who has provided feedback.

Cheers :)

sco

sco,
Has there been any updates since your last post?

Thanks for the prod... an update is definitely in order.

In the last week or so Microsoft released the latest version of their developer tools. I have just upgraded sCANalyser to use those tools. The primary reason for that is to switch to Microsoft serial routines rather than use the third party ones we've been using. I'm hoping this should avoid some of the issues some users have had with certain USB to serial dongles and also solve an occasional crash when shutting down sCANalyser. I'm just testing the upgrade and once this is tested I'll be releasing the beta to those people that asked for access via beta@performancedesign.com.au.

Sorry for the delays. Will post more news as it comes to hand.

Cheers

sco

Thanks for the prod... an update is definitely in order.

In the last week or so Microsoft released the latest version of their developer tools. I have just upgraded sCANalyser to use those tools. The primary reason for that is to switch to Microsoft serial routines rather than use the third party ones we've been using. I'm hoping this should avoid some of the issues some users have had with certain USB to serial dongles and also solve an occasional crash when shutting down sCANalyser. I'm just testing the upgrade and once this is tested I'll be releasing the beta to those people that asked for access via beta@performancedesign.com.au.

Sorry for the delays. Will post more news as it comes to hand.

Cheers

sco

check pm

beers

hey SCO am I still on the beta test list, I never emailed that account after the other betas we did

I've got your gmail address... I'll make sure you're on the list.

Oh, while I think of it.... important info for anyone running V1.1 beta and V1.0

Microsoft has made .NET Framework 2.0 available for download. sCANalyser V1.0/1.1 will run fine if you download this as .NET framework V1.1 and V2.0 can be installed on the same computer. There is no need to uninstall .NET Framework V1.1 (and I recommend that you don't as I have yet to test sCANalyser V1.0/1.1 when only .NET framework V2.0 is installed).

I've got your gmail address... I'll make sure you're on the list.
thanks bud keep up the good work :wiggle:

hey SCO am I still on the beta test list, I never emailed that account after the other betas we did
Same question from me...:)

Rasputin, you are top of my list :)

Rasputin, you are top of my list :)

Gasp! Demoted again!! :banghead:

SCO, you may and can have the three different .NET versions installed but only one can be registered. When you migrate from v1.1 to v2.0, just make sure to include the instructions on how to register different versions of the framework.

aspnet_regiis -ua to uninstall all version of ASP.NET from IIS
aspnet_regiis -i to install ASP.NET for IIS (make sure you are in the appropriate folder version)

ZZ8 thanks for the tip, but to be honest, it is irrelevant.

We don't use ASP.NET (sCANalyser is a WinForms application) so there is no need to worry about registration of ASP.NET in IIS (which is what the aspnet_regiis command manages).

To be 100% correct, you _can_ run multiple versions of ASP.NET side by side, by appropriately managing the configuration. I know this for a fact as I have done it. Refer to the following information: http://www.asp.net/faq/SideBySide.aspx?tabindex=0&tabid=1

I'm not trying to be a smartass... I do some work with the local Microsoft office helping their customers that develop on .NET... so I hope I know what I'm talking about.

Rasputin, you are top of my list :)
Is that before Mark?
:stickpoke

ZZ8 thanks for the tip, but to be honest, it is irrelevant.

We don't use ASP.NET (sCANalyser is a WinForms application) so there is no need to worry about registration of ASP.NET in IIS (which is what the aspnet_regiis command manages).

To be 100% correct, you _can_ run multiple versions of ASP.NET side by side, by appropriately managing the configuration. I know this for a fact as I have done it. Refer to the following information: http://www.asp.net/faq/SideBySide.aspx?tabindex=0&tabid=1

I'm not trying to be a smartass... I do some work with the local Microsoft office helping their customers that develop on .NET... so I hope I know what I'm talking about.


Hey guys, I come to this site to forget about work. This isn't helping. j/k.

Any word on the release date sco? It's the Holidays you know :)

It's very close. Have one more change to put in today and test. I have a draft email ready to go. Sorry it's taken a bit longer... I had hoped the port to .NET 2.0 would have been quicker. I had to tweak some internal stuff which I didn't anticipate.

I just got Version 1 on Tuesday. This is badass stuff.

I am so interested in this product, in fact I read the entire thread. But I am curious about the PDA function will it be a part of v 2. Also I am curious aboutvfuture upgrades. I take it software upgrades will either be distributed, or sold for marginal fee as downloads or CD's. I have no problem with this. But what about hardware upgrades (ability to write???)? do you have a long term plans?

the software upgrades are included (no charge :)) so far and I believe will continue to be for a while :)

drool

At the moment we don't plan to charge for updates to the product and updates will be downloadable from our website once you have registered with us. We may have different editions in the future that would require an upgrade. We appreciate everyone's faith in us that have bought our product so we're keen to look after our existing customers.

PDA version is under development. When we can talk more about it we will.

If hardware upgrades are required in the future then we would do what we can to look after existing customers. This sounds a little vague, but I can't be more specific because it's not something we've needed to do so far so it's not something I've looked into in detail.

BTW... I have a candidate release for the beta that is currently being tested. All going well it should be out in the next day or two.

cool, from your posts in this thread I thought you would do everything that you said, but i am kinda of neurotic when it comes to my car.

I should be picking one up by year end, also picking up your exhaust as well. You have pulled me from the RB band wagon.

I've just sent the email with the beta release to everyone who emailed beta@performancedesign.com.au. Please read the email carefully - there is important information in there.

I notice a couple of people have expressed interested in the beta but I don't have emails from you. If you'd like to help us with the beta, please shoot us an email to beta@performancedesign.com.au with your sCANalyser serial number (from the back of the interface).

Enjoy. I look forward to your feedback on the beta. Thanks again for your patience.

Cheers

sco

Thanks to everyone else who has signed up. You all have mail.

Ross...I don't know what's up with the mail server..can you send me a ftp address to download the software??

Thanks to everyone else who has signed up. You all have mail.
Received it OK. Loads of great new features. Thanks SCO!

Fabrice

Ross...I don't know what's up with the mail server..can you send me a ftp address to download the software??
You have a PM.

Thanks...:)

so far sooooo very cool.

you need a new thread.

beers

After loading up the latest Belkin driver, my problems are gone. :)

The new BETA rocks! Any release date yet?

I agree it does rock :D although I must admit my play time with it has been limited lately :(

yes id like to know when i can get an update.:D:

Thanks for the info on the updated Belkin drivers... I'm pleased it is working much better.

I hope to have a release candidate out in the next couple of weeks. As soon as I have something you can play with everyone on the beta list will get an email. If you're not on the list, email beta@performancedesign.com.au with your serial number from your interface and I'll add you to the list.

Cheers

sco

Another happy customer. Wanted the Analyzer in order to find out what certain mods do to my 8. But I am also thinking of installing it permanently in the car, should I decide to go the CarPC way ;)

I guess this is the thread to watch for the PPC version, right ? :ylsuper:

Thanks for the info on the updated Belkin drivers... I'm pleased it is working much better.

I hope to have a release candidate out in the next couple of weeks. As soon as I have something you can play with everyone on the beta list will get an email. If you're not on the list, email beta@performancedesign.com.au with your serial number from your interface and I'll add you to the list.

Cheers

sco

new toys, yea :Peace:

beers :beer:

SCO or Hymee --
Is there a good way to catch the parameters when you get a blinking CEL?

I suspect the blinking CEL can only be a misfire, as it also came with a P0300 code, which has been reset using the sCANalyser.

Also, anything new for this product?

AFAIK the blinking CEL is due to a misfire. Misfires can be incorrectly detected if there is a problem with the eccentric shaft position sensor (I've seen a spin on the track throw up dust and then affect the sensor). This results in a hard CEL and DTC. Keep an eye out for pending DTC codes as well.

There's still some changes to be made to sCANalyser before I can release 2.0. I'm not 100% happy with the graphing so I'm changing that. More news as it comes to hand. We've also been distracted working on a new product. In appreciation of existing customer's support and patience we'll be looking after them when the new product is released. BTW - Don't ask me about the new product. Can't say anything about it yet.

The "blinking" CEL doesn't cause the PCM to record the freeze frame data, that is why they can't be caught.

Cheers,
Hymee.

BTW - Don't ask me about the new product. Can't say anything about it yet.

Neither can I. I don't know nuthin'. Don't ask me, 'cos I can't say.

This message has been brought to you by the letter S......as in Schultz, Sergeant Schultz.


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Hiya sco.... :)

sco --
Without saying anything about the new product, can you tell us how far off it is before we can find out about it?

No sorry, because I don't know the answer myself yet.

Gomez... you'll keep ;)

guys, I haven't read the whole thread, and (sorry if its been asked before) I have a question: I have the product a couple of months now but just noticed that the CD apart from version 1.0 of Hymee's program, it has also the beta 1.1? is it better? well, ok I didn't use it for a while, only recently I had same spare time to look into it...
by the way, its amazing, I wanna thank hymee and fabrice for making it real...:) its the best thing to have on board, espacially with a car pc...

guys, I haven't read the whole thread, and (sorry if its been asked before) I have a question: I have the product a couple of months now but just noticed that the CD apart from version 1.0 of Hymee's program, it has also the beta 1.1? is it better? well, ok I didn't use it for a while, only recently I had same spare time to look into it...
by the way, its amazing, I wanna thank hymee and fabrice for making it real...:) its the best thing to have on board, espacially with a car pc...

send hymee an email from his site.. there is a 2.0beta out that is good.

beers :beer:

thanks swoope
sure I will:)

sCANalyser Live V2.0.0.3 Beta

Is the latest I guess, right?

sCANalyser Live V2.0.0.3 Beta

Is the latest I guess, right?


think so.. i know it is 2.something.


beers :beer: