Hello all,
First let me introduce myself. My name is Gene and I had my heart set on an Audi A4 1.8T Quattro until I saw the RX-8! I already own a Passat 1.8T, so I thought to myself why do I need another sedan when I can get a practical sports car for the same price. So here I am.
I'm a member of www.clubb5.com because of my Passat, so finding this forum has been great. I've learned more about the RX-8 and then some from reading numerous posts.
So, now I have my first question. Since the big day is getting closer, has anyone come across a dealer willing to sell the RX-8 less than MSRP? I did a search on this already, but most people were quoting prices for pre-orders. I'd like to see what the situation is now.

To start off and let everyone know there's hope, here's what I got coming.
Winning Blue, 6MT, with Sport Package
$27,500 including destination

Basically, $800 below MSRP. But the dealer is sticking me with a $594 Dealer Fee. I've tried to get this reduced, but every dealer where I live has this outrageous fee. I did get the dealer to throw in window tint, cargo net, and some other stuff for free. It helps, but I'd still like to see the Dealer Fee gone!!!

My dealer said there's no negotiation at all, M.S.R.P. or nothing.
That means if I'm goin to place an order, it will comes to $28,300 sharp. (6sp w/ Sport Pack.) So is it possible to get below M.S.R.P.?

It's always possible, but given that there is a backlog of demand for the car and that RX-8s will be scarce to begin with, I would say that if you want to pay under MSRP your best bet is to wait until either late in the 2004 model year or wait for 2005; that way those who HAVE to have an RX-8 will already have one and the car will at that point have to hold its own against all the other newer cars that will have come out by that point (like all the turbo rally cars coming from Subaru and Mitsubishi.)

Just my $.02, but it's based on seeing how these things usually go for cars like this (e.g. the Audi TT its first two years, the 350Z, the original Miata, etc.)

For example, dealers in the Bay Area were asking $10K OVER MSRP for Miatas back in 1989; a year or two later they were begging people to take them off their hands.

So it all depends on demand in your area; personally if I saw a Winning Blue w/Sport on your dealer's lot I'd be happy to pay MSRP plus the dealer fee and not ask them to toss in anything more (well OK, I'd probably ASK for the cargo net, but personally I'd just feel lucky to find what I wanted at MSRP...)

I disagree that one should be happy to get one at MSRP. What's the hurt in trying to negociate? The worst that can happen is the dealer says no and you have to either pay MSRP or don't get one. Unless the dealer is 100% certain that he can sell all his RX8 faster than he can get new ones, there is room for negociation. I'm planning on negociating when they finally arrive in showrooms. I may not get much off MSRP, but even $100 is better in my pocket than theirs.

I feel very lucky I found this dealer. I almost gave up hope and was going to wait until Winter.

This car is going to generate alot of buzz with Mazda dealers as well as profit. With the Mazda 6 doing very well, Mazda dealers are riding high. I'm just trying to get the best deal I can and will keep trying to the end. If I can get them to throw in tint and a cargo net, that's less money I have to pay. I think the $2000 profit they're getting is more than enough.

The same thing happened with the Honda Odyssey. I had to negotiate like hell just to pay MSRP and to top it all the dealer was even rude about it. Mazda dealers aren't as cocky as Honda's, but I hope they don't let Mazda's comeback change that.

Anyone else able to negotiate below MSRP?

Speak for yourselves.. no dealer here even wants to talk at MSRP. All of them seem to think they need to make buku bucks off this car. Like it's the only car they have left in the world to sell. They like to pull that good ol' crutch of "doing business here is expensive, more so than any other state" BS.

And of course Mazda discourages gouging, but they also like to say they cannot dictate independent dealer pricing.

Of course that wont stop me from negotiating... But I know, they know, some kid with mommy's wallet will pay way over MSRP for it which they are probably betting on if I walk hahhaha.

Originally posted by notb
I disagree that one should be happy to get one at MSRP. What's the hurt in trying to negociate?

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying you shouldn't try to negotiate.

It's just that if I walked into a dealer and there was a Winning Blue MT6 w/Sport Pkg sitting there and they wanted MSRP and wouldn't budge I'd be more than happy to pay that, as (1) the car would be there and available and (2) I suspect most dealers with unsold RX-8s on the lot this year will be those asking $5000 or more in "additional dealer profit."

Hello,

There are a few dealers in the L.A. area offering MSRP for pre-orders. I'm sitting on one. Serveral others said they expected to get 2000-4000 over MSRP for their alloted cars. They said to jump at an MSRP deal.

I'm not surprised at ALL that a dealer has tacked on the 500+ plus fee. I've got a written offer from my dealer on the MSRP and will use that if they "fee me." They ain't your buddy, no matter how wonderous the RX is.

But, note, even with the GT package, there are a NUMBER of adds to the deal like 6-CD player for 500.00 etc. etc.

My guess is there's more demand that cars and it will be a sellers market.

Me, I'm on the edge of simply buying a race-ready spec class Miata for 15,000 and too heck with the RX-8 (which I still REALLY, REALLY want . . .). <grin>

the company i work for has a plan called the xplan and iwill get the car at company prize that below msrp.If you work for ups you most be jumping for joy.:p

booooooooooooooo........ I'm not your friend. :D

rx-8 is not offered in the xplan or the s plan

I got my millenia s below msrp with the x plan and I talked to my dealer and i got my rx8 below msrp.

let me know again when you pick up your car. when last i checked with "people in the know" mazda had said no xpln or splan pricing. of course they could have changed their minds. but if they are willing to do that i don't know why i have to pay $500 for a freakin cd changer!

Originally posted by saejin

Basically, $800 below MSRP. But the dealer is sticking me with a $594 Dealer Fee. I've tried to get this reduced, but every dealer where I live has this outrageous fee. I did get the dealer to throw in window tint, cargo net, and some other stuff for free. It helps, but I'd still like to see the Dealer Fee gone!!!

My sale was the same way. We did not want to pay over the MSRP + tax + tag. The dealer wanted to throw in a $500 dealer fee. We said no sale then. The dealer took off -500 from the original MSRP and then added on his dealer fee of $500. Why? Must have been some kind of record keeping or something. So.. I ended up paying right at MSRP ($33,100).

I wouldn't complain. You are getting the car for approx. $200 less than MSRP. Anyone that can get this vehicle near the MSRP, nad not over, should jump on it. If you are too stingy about paying around the MSRP, then wait a year and hope you can get it for less than MSRP. In the meantime, you will be missing out on the fun since you want to save a few bucks.

RX-8 Zoomster quick question.

You sig says, "cheers from Qatar", and you live in Valrico, FL. That can only mean one thing.
I live in Brandon and am also in Qatar. Drop me a line offline at saejin@hotmail.com . I'd like to know which dealer you went with. For me it was an out of town dealer, way out of town.

Originally posted by saejin
RX-8 Zoomster quick question.

I live in Brandon and am also in Qatar. Drop me a line offline at saejin@hotmail.com .

saejin,

Small world! I sent a reply to you hotmail account.

Hey, I know it's off topic, but since Qatar's not exactly a tourist hot spot these days, thanks for being there, guys...

Hawaii might be expensive but I bet petrol is cheap. In the UK we pay something like $6 a gallon, but look at this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2952241.stm

That's more to fill up the tank than rent a decent car for a week.

I went to two different dealerships to negotiate. One dealer offered me $200 under sticker and no b.s. fees. The other dealer offered $600 under sticker and I ordered the car. It is one of the dealer allocations that is expected in May-June so I feel pretty lucky.

Hope you don't mind me adding this to the mix. but if you haven't checked out www.edmunds.com or Consumer Reports Auto buying guides at any store or local library ... please do!
This is what I've learned from past experiences...

A destination charge, is levied by all manufacturers. However, the invoice price might vary in certain regions where advertising costs and other dealer fees are included.

Consumer Reports calculates most Dealer Advertising fees around $200 - $400 if applicable. Consumer Reports takes the stance that Dealers are entitled to a reasonable profit (I agree with them on that). Consumer Reports advises that during your negotiations tell the dealer that you do not want to pay any advertising fees. Some dealers may not be willing to waive the advertising/dealer fees. In this case , the only way around this is to choose an other dealer or another car that doesn't charge any of those extra excessive fees...

Consumer Reports feel that for most "new" models, a 4-8% over invoice price which includes the deduction of any "Dealer Holdback" amount is a fair price. However, if the car is in demand, the dealer often sets the price and good luck to you. Edmunds recommends paying only the fees listed on the invoice, but questioning any advertising fees that appear on the purchase contract.) American made cars like GM or Ford sometimes are able to sell their cars for below dealer invoice. As far as I'm aware no other car manufactures ever have done this.

This is something if you don't know about you should quickly learn: Dealer Holdback. Many consumers don't understand what the dealer holdback is, what it is used for and what the holdback's role is in the deal-making process. Let's try to clear up some of the confusion.

Dealer holdback is a percentage of either the MSRP or invoice price of a new vehicle that is paid to the dealer by the manufacturer to assist with the dealership's financing of the vehicle. The holdback itself can't really be used as a negotiating chip. However, knowing about it might help you get a better deal on a new car.

http://www.edmunds.com/advice/incentives/holdback/index.html

Also, be warned that if you ask the dealer to cut his profit, he might try to take it back somewhere else. Remember, a good deal isn't just the lowest selling price. It's the lowest total out-the-door cost on a car that meets your needs. This means that to ensure you get a fair deal you have to be vigilant throughout the entire purchase process, even after you and the salesman agree on a price.

10 Steps to Buying a New Car (common sense but still good to read up on)

Step 1: Starting out.
Step 2: Using incentives and rebates.
Step 3: Pricing the car.
Step 4: Finding the exact car you want to buy.
Step 5: Test driving the car salesman.
Step 6: If you are trading in your old car...
Step 7: Negotiating for your lowest price.
Step 8: Closing the deal.
Step 9: Reviewing and signing the paperwork.
Step 10: Inspecting and taking possession of your new car.

http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/78386/article.html

My personal experience is if at all possible find a Auto Broker instead of a auto dealer, in California I used AutoLand (in 1990 to buy my Probe - which at the time was a very hot car and at the dealer they were asking an extra $5,000 over MSRP and then they also had included those dealer "packs" that I didn't want) and it was great - $100 over dealer invoice and it was a no hassle - a truly wonderful experience. When we bought my wife's 2000 Passat (when that was also a hot car) we got it for $250 over dealer invoice but it was a very painful 4 hour experience. But to make it up, last feb. when I got my 2003 MP5 it was as almost as good as AutoLand - I went though Freeman Mazda (here in Dallas) and did it for $200 over dealer invoice. (I did think that some of their document/tax/title fees were a little high, but I checked with the DMV and the said it was in line for the dealer to pass that along.

Anyway, Good Luck!

Originally posted by rx8racer
I went to two different dealerships to negotiate. One dealer offered me $200 under sticker and no b.s. fees. The other dealer offered $600 under sticker and I ordered the car. It is one of the dealer allocations that is expected in May-June so I feel pretty lucky.

Yeah, the best thing to do is shop around and be prepared to walk!

Lucky for me I'll be waiting at least 3+ years before I get my RX-8

:D

If I want my 8 it's MSRP baby; I'm number one on their list (they have an allocation of three units) and the list is seven or eight deep, you have to pay if you want to play.

Originally posted by BillK
Hey, I know it's off topic, but since Qatar's not exactly a tourist hot spot these days, thanks for being there, guys...

You read my mind BillK!

To everyone overseas......stay safe and THANK YOU!

I saw some thoughts on x plan, but what about A Plan? I work for Ford and get the a-plan on mazda but did not know if that is a dealership decision... I HOPE I Do :)

Nice try with the plan codes, I work for Mazda and they will not give you "S" plan(as it is called at Mazda), it is the dealers discresion, and they are retarted if they sell it to you for that. Need less to say they wont. If they are only getting 40-75 cars a year why would they give up $2500 easy? I am paying MSRP, and working on better. You should all be exstatic that this is not like the S2000 which was being sold for $7500-$10000 over window. It is a good value and Mazda and your dealer deserve the profit they are about to make. If you dont think your dealer is worth it why are you doing buisness with them?


Kyle Lancaster--Double Agent Salesman

Originally posted by N20SA22C
It is a good value and Mazda and your dealer deserve the profit they are about to make. If you dont think your dealer is worth it why are you doing buisness with them?


Kyle Lancaster--Double Agent Salesman

I kinda agree that Mazda deserves the profit they are going to make on this car as long as the car lives up to all the hype. But why does the dealer deserve the +$2000 profit? All they are doing is taking our deposits and reserving a car for us. This car is selling itself, the dealer and salesperson are hardly lifting a finger doing anything to sell this car. At most a few phone calls and then prepping the car for delivery.

I could almost understand if the salesperson is actively trying to get the status on vehicle delivery, delay problems, and little other things to help keep the customer informed, but from reading the posts it's the exact opposite.

Is my dealer worth it? Not +$2000 profit worth it, but since they are cutting me a deal for $800 below MSRP, then yes. But other dealers who are not willing to negotiate, then no they are not worth it. They only reason they are getting our business is because they have the RX-8 for sale. I'll pay a little more for customer service and overall good buying experience, but it's hard to give away $2000 without a fight.

Mazda wants to see a profit on the new car side and not just the used car side. I remember Ford doing the same thing back in the day with the expedition when it first came out. Really depend on your demographics and who you were if it was going to be sold at A-plan. I know the supervisors got a-plan but the hourly did not for the first couple months.Dealerships do not get a chance to make a good profit like this on new cars very often maybe every few years so they do take advantage of it. But IMO if someone works for a company that builds the product they should recieve the discount. But can relate to what N2 is saying:(

The reason why the dealer deserves his $2000+ profit is because they dont make that much on everthing else. If they dont have a car that makes $$ why wouldn't they all start selling Fords and rake in the cash and belt out POS's? They need some type of incentive to stay in buisness or they will work for a company that offers them more profit potential. Same thing for salesman, a lot of good ones are lost to toyaota/ford because they pay better. Its gotta be a happy balance, and Mazda will raise the price next year so those who want a discount can haggle their way back to where we will have been 1 year before.

Kyle Lancaster--Double Agent Salesman

kyle, are you guys selling the rx-8 at MSRP, or over??

Originally posted by N20SA22C
The reason why the dealer deserves his $2000+ profit is because they dont make that much on everthing else...Its gotta be a happy balance, and Mazda will raise the price next year so those who want a discount can haggle their way back to where we will have been 1 year before.

Kyle Lancaster--Double Agent Salesman

We should take a closer look at this. Do dealerships really make most of their money from new car sales. I always thought a majority of a dealerships profit came from the service and parts department. Most dealership's also sell used cars, which is by far more profitable than new car sales.

If I was buying a Mazda6 or Protege, the dealership would be lucky to get $1000+ profit on those cars. I ask again, why does he deserve $2000+ profit on the RX-8. Dealerships will get this profit in the end, but the emphasis here is on "deserve".
From reading the forum here, I noticed some dealerships dropping the ball on pre-sell orders, not calling customers giving them updates, price-gouging, and overall lack of customer service. So, do these dealerships "deserve" $2000.

It's a seller's market right now and the price of the RX-8 is being driven by what people are willing to pay for it. Right now, we are willing to pay MSRP. Once volume increases and the uniqueness of the RX-8 has gone away, deals will be made. If Mazda raises the MSRP on the RX-8 for 2005, I believe it would be a mistake. They're trying to gain marketshare and right now the RX-8 is priced perfectly. To raise it would be a step back.

I would first like to appoligize for putting the dealers name in my last post, it has been corrected by me already to "Double Agent Salesman":(
We are not selling them for over MSRP. It took me months of fighting and some lost customers to lose their $5,000 over window approach to this car citing that it will cause the demise of my beloved rotary engine.
Most Mazda Protege5's and such are sold for $300 over and the Mazda 6's are sold the same unless they have a 5 speed or a sports package. We still get MSRP for every one of the 5 speed "S" models. They are only making 3% in this config so we are going to take advantage, it is called supply and demand. It is the same reason I was being charged $2.20 a gallon for 87 octane in San Diego a while back. Or why avacados cost $2 each in the winter. It is the way it goes, hey atleaste you didn't pay over window for an overhyped neon called the PT. I still meet people who paid 25-30 for "Tricked out"( read chrome 15's, SE badges, and gay woody look) PT's and want to trade them in.

Originally posted by N20SA22C
I would first like to appoligize for putting the dealers name in my last post, it has been corrected by me already to "Double Agent Salesman":(


I went ahead and changed my previous post where I quote the dealership. No worries.

Yes it is a supply and demand problem. Right now there is high demand and limited supply once the car hits showrooms, hence the MSRP prices. But why can't a dealer say, "hey, let's sell these at $500 below MSRP instead of doing what every other dealer is by selling them at MSRP", and place the emphasis on volume, customer loyalty, and overall satisfaction. RX-8 buyers may turn out to be future Mazda6 or Protege buyers down the road. I always hear about the importance of repeat business.

Bottom line is this car will be sold for MSRP and probably more later on. The MR2 and S2000 continue to be sold for over MSRP. If you can find a deal for MSRP, take it now. I'm very happy with the deal I got, I just wanted to find out if anyone else was able to get a price below MSRP.

the only problem i have with mazda dealers selling for more than MSRP is that mazda corporate is using the rx-8 and the 6 to bring the COMPANY back into the consumers mind as a great product... honda may have the luxury of selling the s2000 with 5K over sticker, cuz people are going to buy accords and civics regardless... mazda on the other hand, if bad word of mouth spreads, will hurt sales overall... this is not like oil, were a cartel is setting the prices and taking as much advantage of the market... mazda is counting on the rx-8 to bring up the company image, and we dont need freakin dealers taking advantage of a product for short term gain and acting like a$$es...

I believe their going to continue to hype this thing up a lot to stir interest and then only give a half dozen or so to each dealer per month to allow demand/price to remain higher than msrp. At least that's better then Toyota & the MR-2, they only supplied our local dealer with 1 per month.

You will get the car under MSRP if you dont preorder. Well around here I will. The mazda6 is doing horribly, being priced $2000 or less below MSRP. I think by fall I'll be able to get the car under MSRP.

Originally posted by Zio
You will get the car under MSRP if you dont preorder. Well around here I will. The mazda6 is doing horribly, being priced $2000 or less below MSRP. I think by fall I'll be able to get the car under MSRP.

Not so fast. Find out which Mazda6 is selling below MSRP. I bet it's the "i" model. Try finding a Mazda6 s with the manual trans and all the options. I bet it's selling closer to MSRP.

A majority of the people don't even know about the RX-8 yet, so you can say they're not in the market to buy one. Once it hits the streets and everybody sees it, I'm sure demand will go up as long as it does good. And since the initial delivery of the RX-8 has already been sold to pre-orders, the supply will be limited, therefore driving the price up on any RX-8 you can find in stock. Take a look at the S2000, MR2, and Mini Cooper S. You can't find one below MSRP.

Come on, a psuedo sports car that can seat 4 adults comfortably. Place your order now.

I just saw the first add for the RX-8 in the latest Sport Compact Car! Just flip open the cover, it's on the inside of the cover and the first page!

It's a Mazda! Of course it will sell below MSRP! Believe me, I would never pay MSRP for a Mazda product since all the profit over dealer invoice goes to the dealership. I've yet to find a decent Mazda dealership. They all suck in terms of customer service and forget about warranty claims. If you buy a Mazda, you'll have to depend on communities like this forum to fix any problems with the car!

I know this from experience owning a 10th Anniversary Edition Miata for the past 4 years. I was recently rear-ended on the freeway and I think I might step up to an RX-8 if the dealers don't scare me away. Mazda really needs to work on their dealership network.

All Mazdas end up discounted a few months after they come out. Even the Mazda Miata in 1989 sold for double it's MSRP when it first came out. But six months later, they were back to wheeling and dealing.

Originally posted by CharT
It's a Mazda! Of course it will sell below MSRP! Believe me, I would never pay MSRP for a Mazda product since all the profit over dealer invoice goes to the dealership. I've yet to find a decent Mazda dealership. They all suck in terms of customer service and forget about warranty claims. If you buy a Mazda, you'll have to depend on communities like this forum to fix any problems with the car!

I know this from experience owning a 10th Anniversary Edition Miata for the past 4 years. I was recently rear-ended on the freeway and I think I might step up to an RX-8 if the dealers don't scare me away. Mazda really needs to work on their dealership network.

All Mazdas end up discounted a few months after they come out. Even the Mazda Miata in 1989 sold for double it's MSRP when it first came out. But six months later, they were back to wheeling and dealing.

Amen brother.

Exactly, they really do and I doubt this car will be in very high demand immediately when it comes out because it does have the rotary and many people still use pist-on engines. Its also a sportscar and the sportscar market is small compared to the SUV market. Well I hope I can get my RX-8 :D.

I agree, this car will sell for less than MSRP. But if you want the first ones that hit the street then you'll have to pay MSRP or close to it.

Here's another twist. Do you think Mazda underpriced the RX-8 to help it get a foothold in the market. Look at the alternative vehicles coming out right now:
350Z - 30k with options
G35C - 30-32k with options
STi - 31k
Evo - 30k

The STi and Evo are selling with premiums, 1k-5k above sticker.

You can't really compare the RX-8 to the above cars, but some of the people buying the RX-8 have probably thought about or have test driven the above cars. So, by pricing the RX-8 lower than the rest of the competition, Mazda will be able to sell the RX-8.

Look at what you get in the RX-8. I think we're getting a pretty good deal at MSRP for the standard options avail on the 6 Speed model.

I may start another thread on this subject to see what everyone thinks.

I believe all throughout the development of the RX-8, from the RX-Evolv, Mazda has promised to price the car at well under $30k.

The problem that Mazda has to overcome is that their brand image is not as visible as Toyota and Honda. Nissan had a similar problem but their recent revival is a good attempt at bringing their brand-recognition back into the public eye. Subaru has a cult following in the US and they are a relatively small-volume car manufacturer compared to the others, so they are not directly in the marketing wars with Nissan, Toyota, Honda, etc. What I'm saying is, Mazda needs to compete with all of the other Japanese brands, but they need to sell more volume than Nissan and have better brand-recognition than Toyota. It's an uphill battle for Mazda. The only way to do that is to have a flagship car like the RX-8 and get as many as possible out on the streets. I think Mazda made a great pricing move and the RX-8 is priced just right. Anyone buying an RX-8 is taking a fair risk because it's a new type of car with an unconventional engine. Just look at the big flop Saturn had with their 3-door coupe. The RX-8 might become a revolutionary car and collector's item, or it might be a huge flop 10 years from now.

With that said, I just can't believe what a great deal a the 6MT w/sport package is at only $28,300 MSRP! If they were only available in white...:(

I saw the RX-8 (concept) at the 2000 San Diego car show. As a former RX-7 owner (an '80 and an '84 GSL-SE), I responded to a questionnaire asking what I would pay for an RX-8. I said up to 30k. My pick just fits in at 30k. As long as the RX-8 doesn't have the problems that the 3rd generation RX-7 had, it's good price. Yes, I would pay MSRP for it.

I doubt that demand it going to allow the dealerships to overprice it. People that can spend 30k or more on a car want SUV's over sedans. A loaded Tribute would probably make more sense... that is if I didn't have a love affair with the rotary.

i hope it's below msrp. up here in lost angeles i'm guessing not too much off first couple months but by late summer or early fall it should be all good.

Originally posted by saejin
Take a look at the S2000, MR2, and Mini Cooper S. You can't find one below MSRP.


S2000 is a bad example. They can easily be had for invoice in the Chicago area.

Originally posted by RX-Nut
Speak for yourselves.. no dealer here even wants to talk at MSRP. All of them seem to think they need to make buku bucks off this car. Like it's the only car they have left in the world to sell. They like to pull that good ol' crutch of "doing business here is expensive, more so than any other state" BS. yeah that is BS. the sti's are out in hawaii and they're going out for MSRP. several people at i-club.com have already purchased them there. :)

STi's in Hawaii for MSRP?? Whoa. where in Hawaii would that be?

I'm wishing for my 8 at MSRP, but that's just wishing..

I spent a YEAR on my local dealers list, with $1000 down for my'8', then I get a call that the price has been announced, and quoted me around $2000 over list......
A quick trip to the big city to hear that 'this is the price' and 'we have decided not to discount them'!!!
The STONES on these guys!
I mentioned that I thought a year with a deposit on one might get me a 'full MSRP' price.....but nooooooo, take it or leave it!
I went home feeling thoroughly screwed, but within a week I heard (in this glorious forum!) of a dealer who had ordered two, one of which was still unsold......
Its 50 miles away, but I got it for list price. I feel the list price is a fair price, and have no problem with it. Just told the first dealer I was buying a'Z' and got my cash back. (Don't want any bad feelings, he has lost the sale, but he is still my local dealer!)
I may need him in a good mood one day!
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Glad to see everyone is posting their experiences. I believe when the time comes to purchase and you're sitting at the dealer anything can happen. So when they say MSRP or no sale just hold out and I bet they will give a little, but not much. This should work unless you have already signed something saying you'll pay MSRP.
The dealer won't let a sale go for a couple of hundred dollar's. My guess is you could probably get $500 off. Right now I'm sitting at $27,500 (RX-8 MT/Sport Pkg) and a dealer fee of $594. When the car shows up I'm going to try my best to negotiate the dealer fee away.

Good luck to everyone and keep posting if you run into a good deal.

Hello, new to the forum and new to car buying in general.

I plan to put a deposit on a pre-order for the car below this coming Tuesday. Are you saying at time of delivery I can try to negotiate and if the deal falls thru I can get my deposit back so long as I have not signed something specifically to the contrary.

I was quoted MSRP only after he initially tried to stiff me an extra 2K. I told him that other dealers in the area were quoting MSRP, he quickly changed his tune and said fine to MSRP.

Thanks in advance for the car buying lesson.

Dealerships who try to sell Mazda's above msrp will get in big trouble with the Mazda Corporation. If you find out that one is trying to do that you should report it to the Mazda discrict rep.

j-apex rx:

There is no x or s p[lan pricing for the RX-8, at least not initiially. After the rush is over and things settle down, the plans may be introduced but you're looking at several months away.
If your dealer said he would get you X or s plan pricing, he has either been smoking the wrong stuff or he is willing to forfeit profit from his own pocket which he doesn't have to do with a high demand car. Sorry:o

Originally posted by HalleysComet
Dealerships who try to sell Mazda's above msrp will get in big trouble with the Mazda Corporation. If you find out that one is trying to do that you should report it to the Mazda discrict rep. Not true; as has been stated elsewhere, Mazda discourages dealers from selling at prices above MSRP, but as they are independent dealers they have NO control over what the dealer's final sale price is.

You never know, some dealers do offer a plan with the new ones. It just depends on the dealership. And there is aslo an E plan for Mazda employees and their family.

BTW, My father is corporate Mazda, he's the one who filled me in on the whole msrp thing. I'll have to ask him what happens if they catch one selling above msrp. You can always expect some additonal dealer fees, but I am just relaying what I was told. I'll talk to him tomorrow and post his response after I speak with him.