Hey all.. here are some pictures from Seven Stock...

enjoy.

:)

Wait until I post them all please.

Top Speed Car
Racing Beat Intake
Racing Beat Front Bumper
AEM CAI

Pettit Supercharger due out in December
Pettit brochure
Blitz Turbo charged RX7

Guest Speakers:
Vice Pres of Mazda NA
Former Racers
Head of R&D Mazda NA

Race cars that speak for themselves

Cant leave the R/C cars out :)

OK.. I am done. That was an awesome event. I believe I saw a few people from this site as well... (Kari) Wasnt sure though....

Later all :)

Hello from Seven Stock...

For those not here, that Petit racing unit looks pretty finished. Big air/water intercooler where the battery once was and the battery is relocated to the passenger firewall. The supercharger itself is a Lysholm screw (autorotor/whipple/Opcon etc). From the size of the unit and the pulley it looks like they are running some serious boost....and that unit should make for a torquey bottom end. Looking forward to the dynos..

There is a forced induction factory RX8 in winning blue inside the design center with a massive intercooler up front and boost gauge for the drive but no pictures are being allowed in there...

Brian Goodwin
Good-Win Racing
www.good-win-racing.com

Im excited about the Pettit Supercharger. The guys I spoke with indicated that their estimated price will come in at less than $5000.00, which is quite acceptable in my eyes.

They are getting an additional 50 HP, and nearly 50 more lbs of torque, mostly in the bottom in (where it needs it).

They indicated that they have done nearly 200 dyno runs with this unit already. Installation is suppose to be relatively easy.

Sounds promising, and I trust Pettit as a vendor.

Schnikes!! That sounds very promising!!! :cool:


Im excited about the Pettit Supercharger. The guys I spoke with indicated that their estimated price will come in at less than $5000.00, which is quite acceptable in my eyes.

They are getting an additional 50 HP, and nearly 50 more lbs of torque, mostly in the bottom in (where it needs it).

They indicated that they have done nearly 200 dyno runs with this unit already. Installation is suppose to be relatively easy.

Sounds promising, and I trust Pettit as a vendor.

Here are a few pics I took today as well (didnt want to start a new thread, hope that's ok with you Dave).

I really love the MS body kit, and it looks great on red. I'm definitely leaning heavily towards the Velocity Red paint now:

Some more:

1. Probably the most famous Rotor powered vehicle in the world!

2. Galpinized RX-8. What a paintjob! :eek:

3. I guess this is the new Racing Beat body kit. Not bad, but I prefer the MS.

4. A picture of one of our members cars (Riccio). Very nicely done!

Did anyone get any pics of the Racing Beat rear spoiler???

That supercharger looks sick. I installed a Vortech (centrufigal) supercharger on my Cobra but wish I did the Kenne Belle (whipple charger). There isn't any spool-up time just instant boost.

Love to hear more about this setup...

Nah it's cool.. Everyone that went please feel free to post your pics here.

the AEM CAI looks rather bad....looks wise...

the RB one looks promising

i want some info on the AEM CIA if you guys have any info can u email me at bluerx804@aol.com
or at my buissness at MECAEDITING@aol.com

That RB front bumper kinda reminds me of a 300ZX for some reason.

The orange/copper RX-8 looks fantastic. Mazda should offer the orange color they use on the 3 for the RX8.

Hello from Seven Stock...
There is a forced induction factory RX8 in winning blue inside the design center with a massive intercooler up front and boost gauge for the drive but no pictures are being allowed in there...
www.good-win-racing.com

Here is a pic of the car he is talking about. I took another pic of the boost guage mounted on the A pillar but it didn't come out, I got reflection from the window.

Thanks for posting those pictures guys. It really made my day. :)

I wonder if the AEM CAI uses a cone-type filter, which I believe is not ideal for the RX-8's already tuned airbox. What am I to do when I get my GT35R? :(

The RB Body kit is definitely slick. I like how it retains the look of the stock car while still looking sporty and not "Fast and the Furious".

The AEM CAI looks interesting.. I wonder if the filter is inside all that piping or somewhere else?

wow, finally a supercharger hopefully the release date holds true. The rb bodykit looks like the 3rd gen preludes don't really like it imho. The aem intake looks weird any info on it? How bout the rb intake?

Thanks for posting those pictures guys. It really made my day. :)

I wonder if the AEM CAI uses a cone-type filter, which I believe is not ideal for the RX-8's already tuned airbox. What am I to do when I get my GT35R? :(

doesn't the rb intake use a cone filter as well?

Okay. The AEM CAI replaces the stock airbox, so any tuning there is gone. They took out the stock pipe and airbox and ran a pipe and filter through the front bumper...

RBs intake has a new air box and the filter is a special-made cylindrical shaped filter. They made the airbox out of plastic to cut down the noise. They were having problems w/ the cone filters because they are tuning to the length of the pipe that goes from the airbox to the intake manifold. The cone filter, if you run the intake tube up to far, would hit the front and restrict airflow. So they wanted something that pulled air from the sides and front that would fit in the box. Basically, now they can adjust the length of the tube INSIDE the air filter as the tube inserts into the end of the cylinder air filter. Thy said it makes 3 HP across the RPM band, which seems more promising than 7 HP at peak.

As far as the RB front end, it reminds me of a Miata. The side skirts are okay, and the rear "mud gards" are cool. I'm not a fan of the front-end, though.

Personally I dig the RB front end...it's more aggressive without dramatically changing the lines of the car...

i just can't wait til sema this year, blitz should be there with their supercharger, hopefully greddy and hks with their long antisipated turbo kits, can't wait.

shelleys man, i want my gt35r too. 500 hp, baby. we'll get there, one day...one day.

Definatly impressed with the RB intake system, they really went to work on the design, it looks as though it belongs to the 8 with all of the other plastic in the engine bay. Not really too excited about the front end, although RB is conservative, so I wasn't expecting anything extremely aggressive. Pettit is looking good, I spoke to a rep in Florida, and I'm trying to get a flight down there soon to take a ride in the 8 and see how it performs, I'll keep you posted if I go down there. I'm EXTREMELY curious is that blue 8 is Mazdaspeed's creation, makes my jimmy jump just wanting to know what's under the hood! Nice pics thanks for the view since some of the members including myself could not be there.

Yeah.. I am interested in the Pettit project as well. As I was driving home today I knew that there was something I forgot...

ASK PETTIT TO START THEIR CAR.......

dang... I really wanted to hear that... I wonder if they would have done it.

Ok, when we first went into the area where they were signing autographs, they said no pictures, but a little later on everyone was taking pictures. There was a blue mazdaspeed 8 in there that had FI. it's the same one we saw in the aftermarket threads from laguna. It's not turbocharged, it's supercharged.
The gauge on the curtain airbag mount is a blitz vaccuum gauge. Rotarygod also felt around for the turbine connection and couldn't find anything. He said it's "definitely not turbocharged." I have pictures of the car, the X2 car, and everything else from the show and I'll have pics from racing beat tomorrow. There's gonna be a very large flood of info to these boards in the next few days, so be ready. I'll try and get them up asap, but i have to go back to dallas tomorrow night and i dont even get in until 1am monday morning. So monday night is the earliest you'll see any of my pics, most likely.

i think 50 hp gain isnt too bad (Petit Supercharger). but if i was going to add more boost to my car, i'd get something that has huge potential. like greddy's twinturbo for the 350z and G35. 5000 is jsut 1000 less from greddy's twinturbo, and the twinturbo's possible maximum hp is up to 700!

i think 50 hp gain isnt too bad (Petit Supercharger). but if i was going to add more boost to my car, i'd get something that has huge potential. like greddy's twinturbo for the 350z and G35. 5000 is jsut 1000 less from greddy's twinturbo, and the twinturbo's possible maximum hp is up to 700!
good luck running twins on the RX8. The compression ratio makes it very difficult to handle high levels of boost.

Yeah.. I am interested in the Pettit project as well. As I was driving home today I knew that there was something I forgot...

ASK PETTIT TO START THEIR CAR.......

dang... I really wanted to hear that... I wonder if they would have done it.


Man, before SS7 - while we were waiting to get into the place, they were driving that thing up and down the street. You could hear the BOV going off all the time... It sounded pretty cool. :D

good luck running twins on the RX8. The compression ratio makes it very difficult to handle high levels of boost.

Not to mention the heat issues would be astounding.

Those rides are off tha hinges... Real sweet. I wonder hot that RB intake is gonna be , idlewise... looks nice! and that last Ti Grey MS is making me moist.

They've tested the hell out of it. The RB exhaust will be top quality and work like it should or they won't produce it. And they are going to produce it, so that means...

I cant wait to see the test results from the RB intake and AEM CAI... see how they match up to the rotary extreme intake.

Racing beats re-positioning of the fog lights makes the car look crosseyed :eek: IMOH , NOT IMPRESSED WITH THE FRONT END . :(

Anyone got shots of the rear spoiler ????

cheers
michael

Man thanks guys for posting these pic's, this is awesome, I can't wait for some of the FI kits to become available.

Pettit said they dynoed their 8 over 200 times and didn't give you any hints at what the numbers might be, rather than 50hp and 50ftlbs. What a tease.....

So does anybody actually know who's car the blue mazdaspeed 8 belongs to? Is it Mazda's or what?

I'm not too sure about the RB front, but it doesn't look bad at all. The RB intake looks very good though.

Not to mention the heat issues


With the car or SevenStock? :eek: :eek: :eek:



:D

i just can't wait til sema this year, blitz should be there with their supercharger, hopefully greddy and hks with their long antisipated turbo kits, can't wait.

shelleys man, i want my gt35r too. 500 hp, baby. we'll get there, one day...one day.

380 rwhp is just right for me. 500 hp is pushing it. You can still make it legal however.

I'm looking forward to Racing Beat's N/A intake system. That's the type I'm looking for. :)

I like the Racing Beat front fascia. I think it's the wheel choice that makes it look funky. Maybe if you strapped on the SSR Mesh rollers, it would look totally boss. :cool:

i think it's possible, i believe greddy and hks will come through big time. BIG TIME!!!

Did anyone atend the Q&A events? What issues were brought up? Hybrid Rotary? RX7? Turbo/SC kits for the 8? Synthetic oil? rotary Miata?

i have waited so long for the RB bodykit just so that i wont regret getting a bodykit before it came out....... but i am fairly disappointed with the RB kit..... arg.......

btw anyone has an ass shot of the RB kit?

surprised none of you guys mentioned it looks similar to the Dodge Intrepid

The RB front end looks similar to the Dodge Intrepid.

:D

Seriously, I feel like a boob for not taking some pics of the RB rear spoiler. Sorry!

DANG..... I would have loved to of heard that...

Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I guess i'll have to wait a little while longer.

I cant believe they havent updated their website with the supercharger yet. Even their brochures pointed people in that direction but they will find nothing...

Didnt get that.

Man, before SS7 - while we were waiting to get into the place, they were driving that thing up and down the street. You could hear the BOV going off all the time... It sounded pretty cool. :D

Damn...... had to post twice.. that really sucks :) I cant believe I missed it...................

I love the orange/copper color .... One day ... .one day

Whats going on with that AEM intake... looks very odd. They have no info on there website yet. I am very interested to hear about this.

later on during sevenstock they parked a pearl white Rx8 next to the copper one. I got a picture I will post it when I get the film developed. Probably when the car comes out in 3 months...LOL. I think someone will post it up though. :D

A few more pics:

1. A closeup of the "Galpinized" RX-8

2. I think this is Mikeb's car? Mike?

3. A Row of 8's!

The owner of the red FD with the "gull wings" said he had about $70,000.00 invested in the car.

Hey you didn't post the other Row :( my car is there. I would post it, but I have to develope my film still :o

This has to be one of the best pics from the RotaryNews site:

http://images.rotarynews.com/images/SevenStock7/img_3652.jpg


Is that a permanent tattoo? If so, a big thumbs up from me!

:D

2. I think this is Mikeb's car?


Yes, it is.

that tattoo is real

I guess she works at racing beat

The owner of the red FD with the "gull wings" said he had about $70,000.00 invested in the car.

i feel sorry for that guy....

OK to answer a few questions here.

I looked at the AEM intake. It looks alot like the first prototype long arm system from Rotary Extreme. It uses a generic cone filter mounted in the front opening of the car in the air stream. This is the same type of system that Chuck at RE verified idled like crap. After talking to Racing Beat, the length of the pipe that the maf is mounted on is what makes a difference. If it is too long, which isn't hard to do, the car idles like crap and makes less power. Based on what I learned from them and my own knowledge of intakes, no thanks, I'll pass. That system was just a bunch of 3" pipe that was joined together with hose couplers. I don't know what takes so long to develop something like that.

The Racing Beat intake is pretty sweet. While shaped like a cone filter, I wouldn't classify it as one. It is much larger and open. It will definitely flow more than the average cone filter. They mount this filter closer to the maf and farther from the front of the engine bay. This is because some of the systems on the market that use cone filters, have the filter too far forward. While the difference in length may only be an inch or so, it makes all the difference in the world when it comes to your idle quality. Their box is very smooth on the inside with nice rounded edges to aid in airflow. The intake into the box is as of yet undetermined. They reported that it may retain a VFAD system or it may just be a long tube that sticks down into the airstream for ramair. With their setup, idle quality and performance with the maf are not a problem. They tested the intake on the dyno after we left. They are a few weeks away from releasing a finished product. They even had 2 different filter elements that they needed to test. It should not be a loud intake by any means.

The blue Mazdaspeed car inside did have forced induction. When asked if it was a turbo or a supercharger they would not tell us. It is obvious there is a big intercooler and a boost gauge but we were left to guess the rest. Fortunately I know that if you look in the wheel well of the front right wheel behind the tire, there is a little plastic dirt flap that you can pull aside. When you do it gives you full viewing access to the exhaust manifold and motor mount. That car had the factory stock exhaust header and system. It had to have been supercharged. Also judging by the fact that when auto manufacturers install intercoolers, they typically use small air/water units built into the manifold for positive displacement superchargers whereas everyone else uses air/air types for centrifugal superchargers. It is most certainly a centrifugal supercharger. My guess it is a Procharger but this is only speculation based on the fact that Sunflower Mazda is working on a supercharger kit. Who knows which one it really is but it is probably a centrifugal never the less.

Actually, Blitz uses air/air fmic on their supercharger in all their applications and that intercooler looked like a blitz in terms of dimensions and core type when I looked at it along with the fact it is running Blitz gauges. Considering the Blitz is the most well developed and packaged of all the options I would not be suprised if that is what it is. Also remember Blitz-NA is in LA and not too far away from Mazda.

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RotaryGod,

What do you think of PettitRacings supercharger??? did you get a chance to talk to them and ride in it???

Dang you where at racingbeat when I was there. It would have been great to have meet you. I am sure that I speak for everyone, cause I base my upgrades/purchases on your opinions.

Ride in it? They were giving rides?????????? F#)*......................... I totally missed out on that one.

yup, I rode in it at 7stock and then he let this guy drive it at RacingBeat.

RotaryGod,

What do you think of PettitRacings supercharger??? did you get a chance to talk to them and ride in it???

Dang you where at racingbeat when I was there. It would have been great to have meet you. I am sure that I speak for everyone, cause I base my upgrades/purchases on your opinions.


we were the bunch standing around the bench where they had the renesis housing laid out. it was the "porting" bench. we also spent some time in the dyno room digging prototype headers out of the closet:) hell i ended up with grease on my pants and shirt from leaning so much on the work bench. i cant believe we missed you.

yup, I rode in it at 7stock and then he let this guy drive it at RacingBeat.

So what were your impressions? :) Did you feel that the power was a lot more..

I was there when that lady was putting the little traveling Gnome on the pariferal ported Rotar housing. I was the guy talking about Moller international stock wow the stock went up 32 percent by the way. Sorry to have missed you guys, there is always next year.

It felt great, and it sounded like a little jet turbine. Felt torque on the low and high end. The racer guy said it will increase the Horse power by 50. Final production in December.

I wonder if RotaryGod talked to the guy, and maybe rode in it. I want to hear his impressions. Well I have to go and get ready for my sleep studies apt, going to see how bad my Sleepapnia is. :(

catch you guys later,

Ryan

Do you know who is tuning the car? Is it Pettit or some other company?

Probably Pettit, not sure. Call them (954) 563-6064

I hear the name SPD Racing being thrown around at Seven Stock.. I wonder what they did....

but anyways.. back to Pettit...

I had the pleasure of meeting RG and zoom. 7Stock was a complete blast. I hope they do it again next year.
PS Abel's car is scary. SCARY!

I did not ride in Pettit's car. I didn't even hear it run. I did look it over though. I know it is a prototype but here are my criticisms with the kit so far. Luckily they will probably be fixed by production time.

The removed the stock plastic upper intake. They had to. They replaced it with a tubular aluminum intake. That thing was terrible. The air had to make some really sharp turns to get where it was going. They will probably fix this by production time though.

The supercharger looked a little small to me. If it is only going to produce 50 extra horsepower than that explains why it is sized the way it is. If they wanted alot more power, they'd need a bigger unit.

I did hear from others that the car idled rough. After talking to Jim Langer at Racing Beat is is very obvious why. If you look at the pictures of the Pettit car's engine bay, you can see that the maf is mounted pretty far back on the intake tube. As many have found out, if this tube is too long before the maf, the car idles rough. It even affects power because of this. The easy fix would be to move the maf further towards the front of the intake tube to get the length correct. They wouldn't necessarily need to shorten the intake although it does place the filter in the front of the car which is a place I wouldn't want the maf.

If I were them, I'd find a different way to mount the intercooler. It's basic location is fine but maybe in a more vertical position to create more space up front for an airbox and battery. It would be a tight fit though. I'm sure they'll resolve everything by the time production is ready.

It was cool meeting you too ceramicseal. I don't know how anyone missed us at Racing Beat. I was hovering all around the Renesis housings examining and even explaining how the ports worked and how certain things could and couldn't happen. zoom44 commented on how many people were standing around listening at that point. It felt kind of weird especially since Racing Beat's main porting guy was standing next to me not saying a word. Don't know if that was a good thing or not! After listening to Jim Mederer, Ianetti, and the engine builder from Jim Downing Racing (forgot his name) talk to each other, I felt like an idiot! I'd almost be willing to buy a ticket just to sit there and listen to them talk.

You would expect Rotarygod to be some sort of mechanical engineer... found out he's in real estate... Hmmm... :P

Time to open your own shop?

PS Abel's car is scary. SCARY!

no kidding! the turbo on that thing was HUGE!! i think it was bigger than my motor. it could have sucked my whole head in!!!! and LOUD!! as loud as any nitro funny car ive ever been close to. i am sure the folks standing near the rear got a little singed when he laid on the throttle :eek: :D i think rg metioned burning nostrils from the exhaust fumes :)

edit- rg i remembered his name- rick engeman. google helped a little;)

Rick Engman is the man's name (RE) of ' How to modify your RX7' fame, the book by Dave Emannuel with Jim Downing. By far most of the info in there came from Mr Engman. It was neat to see the important Japanese gents pay him reverence, like Koby and Mr Suzuki. I was just thinking today it would be neat to have a Rotary Engine Technical Conference where people like Jim Mederer and Rick Engman could share their extreme experience. These two alone have about a combined 65 years of top level rotary building experience.
I did see Cameron Worth's supercharged RX8 and also witnessed Abel take it for a test drive and return with a wide grin. Seemed quick. Hope it works out well for Cam who also has crazy experience (over 30 years).

oh was that abel driving it late in the day saturday during the raffle? i saw it coming back in.

When Abel ran his car I thought the Al Quaida was attacking again. Very loud and violent sounding.

Yep, that was Abel driving the Pettit car.

hmm, i guess a supercharger can have a HUGE intercoolr if it wants 2...anyway i have pics of the rb kit, spoiler and all. I like the spoiler and skirts but the front is 2 smiley.

http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=5006256&uid=2381748&members=1

If I were them, I'd find a different way to mount the intercooler...

Cameron said that they were going to move the intercooler up front and change to an air cooled design. The one on the car was water cooled. So, all that plumbing will get moved around again. He said that the production unit would leave the battery in it's original OEM placement also. He wanted to make the kit easy to install for all of us.

I was there when they started it up and let it idle, it was OK - and did not sound rough. Then they started revving it up and down... I wish I had my video camera running at the time, but I put it back in my trunk :(

I figured that there would be some big changes for the production kit. Did you look to see how bad the aluminum upper manifold was? It's another thing that I'm sure will get worked out though.

He only popped the cover briefly, and I did not get a good look. He also told everyone to put their cameras down when he did this, so everybody hovered closer and I was in the back.

He wasn't there when I took pictures!

Did anyone see the CF vent/strakes on the Forced Induction 8 in the mazda showroom? (the blue one with the frontmount) anyone have info on it?