Look what i found guys. I can't wait til SEMA!!!

sweet :)
i want one :)

how did you open my hood?????

haha, i hope they start coming out here with that soon. damn emission standards. bush allows hummers, but doesn't let us have out shit.

Oh yea its out! but the real question is how much???... Me I dont care. I will pay what it takes to get SC'ed or Turb'ed. But thats just me.

my goal is 500 hp

Why 500 hp? What exactly are you trying to do with this car?

Anyway, that's GReddy's turbo kit. I believe it uses a TD-05 turbocharger, or something similar in that magnitude. I highly doubt 500 hp with the kit however. I'm sure the throttle response kicks ass.

8inVegas, if you seriously want 500 hp, a good rule of thumb is to invest in a large turbocharger, such as a GT35R. Actually, it's all in the tuning. Pick and choose. :)

i'd be happy with 200lbs of torque.

i'd be happy with 200lbs of torque. (8000 x 200) / 5252 = 304.6 horespower at the wheels.
304.6 horsepower at the wheels is approximately 381 horsepower at the crank with a 20% drivetrain loss in power.

(8000 x 200) / 5252 = 304.6 horespower at the wheels.
304.6 horsepower at the wheels is approximately 381 horsepower at the crank with a 20% drivetrain loss in power.

are these numbers accurate?

380 seems a bit out of range right now. damn.

his numbers are accurate whe using 200 as the T measurment in the equation he used.

If you had 200 ft lbs of torque at 8000 rpm, you'd have 304.6 hp. If your torque peak was at 6000 rpm, you'd have 228.48 hp at 6000 rpm but not 304.6 higher. Where do you want 200 ft lbs of torque? Remember that under 5252 rpm you will always have more torque than horsepower and over 5252 rpm you will always have more horsepower than torque. Kowing how much horsepower or torque you have at any one rpm wil only tell you how much of the other you have at that same rpm. If you had 200 ft lbs of torque at 3000 rpm, you'd only have 114.24 hp at that rpm.

If you had 200 ft lbs of torque at 8000 rpm, you'd have 304.6 hp. If your torque peak was at 6000 rpm, you'd have 228.48 hp at 6000 rpm but not 304.6 higher. Where do you want 200 ft lbs of torque? Remember that under 5252 rpm you will always have more torque than horsepower and over 5252 rpm you will always have more horsepower than torque. Kowing how much horsepower or torque you have at any one rpm wil only tell you how much of the other you have at that same rpm. If you had 200 ft lbs of torque at 3000 rpm, you'd only have 114.24 hp at that rpm.

peak torque on the 8 is 159 lb-ft @ 5500 rpm, 200 @5500rpm would be nice.

basically, I'd like to see 0-60 numbers below 5sec. I'm just making a guess that the extra torque will put it there,


I can really care less about hp, I want a faster car, extra hp doesn't necessarily mean it's gonna be that much faster, but extra torque will right?

I thought torque quickens the car, hp makes it fast. plus gearing and all that. its all confusing to me but I thought with the same gearing in any given car that if you increase the torque or power that the other will be increased according to that other number, torque or hp. isnt that about rigth?

bambam

tat's 3 different car.. interesting!! i need more detail info. about those cars.
by the way.. i only need 320hp at wheel tat's enough for me. after light up the car.. i think 0~60 can beat under 4.5s

in the second pic, the car has a 4point strut bar, but it doesn't look like a RHD car, because it doesn't have the windscreen fluid box. could this be a 4p strut bar for the us-europian cars?

All 3 cars are right hand drive. You can make out the brake booster in all 3 pictures.

oh yeah, this thread has already been done......... like 50 times.
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=32383

bambam

if i wanted to achieve 500 hp. let's see what needs to be redone.
Intake, spark plugs and wires, new pulleys, bigger radiator, new stainless steel headers, cat back exhaust, midpipe, gt35r turbo, intercooler, new ecu. what else am i missing and why is tuning to important? what should i look for when i have someone tune my car? and on top of that, i wanna run two bottles (if save and possible) with 75 hp shots of nitrous. any possibility of that or am i being too far fetched here? fellow members, enlighten

if i wanted to achieve 500 hp. let's see what needs to be redone.
Intake, spark plugs and wires, new pulleys, bigger radiator, new stainless steel headers, cat back exhaust, midpipe, gt35r turbo, intercooler, new ecu. what else am i missing and why is tuning to important? what should i look for when i have someone tune my car? and on top of that, i wanna run two bottles (if save and possible) with 75 hp shots of nitrous. any possibility of that or am i being too far fetched here? fellow members, enlighten


you're in 'a little' over your head for 500hp.

You guys got me in trouble. I saw those photos and started laughing and giggling with anticipation like a school girl. Just about the time my boss walked into my office.

8Invegas, take all the money you intend to spend, put it on the hard 10. If it hits, let it ride. If it hits, buy an ENZO.

is it possible tho?

500hp=20b engine swap, there you have it :)

that looked tlike canzoomer's supercharger on the first page to me, but what do I know, I have onlyt seen it in person.

Well to me if I wont 10million HP I would just call NASA and fly the dame rocket. I just wont HP on demand and I think with the right set up I can get that out of this car no matter the price... All things in there time.

I'd be happy with just having a reliable turbo system on my 8 with at least 200lbs torque just like what Jarred said. I have over 400hp on my DSM it took a 60 trim and big cams to do it, with the cams on my car kinda sound like a V-8. Sounds like fun, but I'm always breaking something every so often, but then again its a mitsubushit!

if i wanted to achieve 500 hp. let's see what needs to be redone.
Intake, spark plugs and wires, new pulleys, bigger radiator, new stainless steel headers, cat back exhaust, midpipe, gt35r turbo, intercooler, new ecu. what else am i missing and why is tuning to important? what should i look for when i have someone tune my car? and on top of that, i wanna run two bottles (if save and possible) with 75 hp shots of nitrous. any possibility of that or am i being too far fetched here? fellow members, enlighten

you're missing quite a bit. if you want 500HP you're going to need to prepare your entire drivetrain for that kind of power.

the rear end should hold that power for street use, it won't last long on a drag strip though. the tires need to be upgraded. your suspension will need to be tweaked. your brakes will need to be upgraded slightly and your factory clutch/flywheel probably won't hold that kind of power. you will need to rework your fuel system. expect to need a returnable fuel system. the fuel system will need a new or additional fuel pump, surge tank(optional), new larger lines from and back to the tank. larger fuel injectors, fuel pressure regulator, possibly a pulsation damper, and possibly stand alone engine management (unless there is a programmable system out there that is easier to work under boost conditions). i'd consider an upgrade to the ignition system.

then you have to look into the turbo components. the turbo, and exhaust manifold, a wastegate, a blowoff valve, an intercooler, piping for the intercooler, an exhaust system that flows well enough for the power level you are reaching for.

of course, you are going to want to use high grade materials when choosing parts, otherwise you'll just be throwing money down the drain.

your also going to need some other electronics to operate the turbo system. you'll need a decent boost controller and a decent turbo timer. Gauges are optional but no self respecting ricer would be without the basic compliment of Boost, Air/Fuel, and RPM tach gauges :-)

there are a ton of parts needed to properly build a 500HP turbo car when starting with an NA car - especially one as sophisticated as the 8 if you want to maintain driveability and function.

as far as tuning is concerned i don't consider someone a tuner if all they do is install parts and tweak piggy back fuel controlers - that person is an "installer." When you look for a quality tuner look for the presence of a static load eddy current dyno (Mustang Dyno, Dyno Dynamics... ETC). make sure the person doing the "tuning" is experienced with several systems (Motec, Haltech, Microtech, AEM - the more the better). Me personally, i only have significant experience with Microtech and some limited experience with Haltech. Make sure they are familiar with Rotaries (for your application) anyone who has experience with any combination of turbocharged and fuel injected rotaries should feel right at home with a project like this.

the nitrous question is a telling sign that you probably just want a dyno queen :-) for a street application like this you really shouldn't need nitrous. a 75 HP shot for this application is a bit overkill - you really shouldn't need more than a 50, if you need anything at all, to get a ball bearing turbo up to speed when your in the 500 HP range, espeically with the exhaust pressure and flow characteristics of this motor.

Ray

I'd be happy with just having a reliable turbo system on my 8 with at least 200lbs torque just like what Jarred said.

NS...

How much $$$$ do you think it will be?

I would say $5K with out install.

I'll pay 5K turbo kit

about how much psi do you think it would push....... about 8psi?