BryanH
03-31-2003, 01:51 AM
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Mazda put on a great event with lots to do and see. However I must say they sold the worst $8 lunch I ever had. ;)
There were three 'practice' clinics you could do throughout the day. There was a stopping and turning clinic which I didn't do, a slalom clinic in Mazdaspeed Proteges which I should have done (just to drive the car :)), and a course practice area with stock Mazda 6s. The competition area was a larger course with modified 6s. They had springs and exhaust, at least. Still, to be totally honest I was a bit underwhelmed by the 6. The motor seemed truly gutless except at the upper limits of its rev range. I feel I have a good handle on how the car 'should' have felt too because I drove a '95 Camry V6 to the event. The Camry, by the way, feels faster and much more torquey. I don't know if it's actually faster, but it gives the impression it is, despite its long gearing. Torque isn't everything I know, but when you have to deal with an automatic transmission I think it's a bigger factor. Stuffing the 6s gas pedal off the line did nothing to threaten the front tires' traction. The Camry will claw and scratch a bit even without using the brakes to launch harder. Which btw, the 6s would not let you do (lousy computers ;)).
The steering on the 6 was also difficult for me. It has a very quick ratio compared to what I'm used to, which isn't necessarily a bad thing in itself but when the power steering is so far overboosted it becomes difficult to drive. THere is no steering feel. None. The steering wheel does not gain weight/resistance as you turn more. This is another area where I felt mom's Camry was superior. Its steering gains heft as you turn, and actually has a bit of feel to it.
On the good side, the 6 had some pretty decent suspension underneath it. The back end would step around without too much effort, and understeer was kept to a minimum in 2 out of the 3 examples I drove. The third, understeery one I think was the victim of being overdriven and the front tires were probably heat cycled to death. I could see they were bald already so I knew they wouldn't have much left. The fresher 6s in the morning were nicely balanced for a FWD sedan. Still, the steering killed a lot of my precision, as I ended up turning the wheel too much and sort of sawing at it to try to figure out what the front tires were up to.
The car did look great too, and was comfortable. The telescoping steering was cool.
Would the Camry have been faster than the 6 through the autocross? Certainly not. But it would have been much easier to drive at its limits (in fact I have a bit experience doing so with this Camry).
I test drove a 6spd Miata through another course (with an ABS stop test, some bumps, lane change maneuver, etc. Basically an 'enhanced' test drive) and felt *much* more at home in that car. I'm so used to driving lightweight, responsive RWD cars that a FWD family sedan is difficult for me to get used to.
So how did I do? Good and bad. :) For the competition, each driver got two runs. My first run was a solid one, good for 4th place overall at the time. I knew there was at least a half second I had left out there, likely more, and that if I could just keep it clean in the second run I'd be in the top 3 for sure (btw there were over 1,000 drivers participating :D). Well, I didn't keepit clean. I got a 6 s with bad front tires, I overdrove it into an understeer situation and I couldn't bring the car back. I just kept plowing and plowing and plowing, despite me being completely off the throttle. I think I hit 4 cones. I don't remember. But that run was junk. I was so pleased with how I did in my first run, it was a major downer to lose my opportunity in my second run. I really had a shot at the top time for the day, I think.
I suggested they supply RWD cars for next year. ;)
Mazda put on a great event with lots to do and see. However I must say they sold the worst $8 lunch I ever had. ;)
There were three 'practice' clinics you could do throughout the day. There was a stopping and turning clinic which I didn't do, a slalom clinic in Mazdaspeed Proteges which I should have done (just to drive the car :)), and a course practice area with stock Mazda 6s. The competition area was a larger course with modified 6s. They had springs and exhaust, at least. Still, to be totally honest I was a bit underwhelmed by the 6. The motor seemed truly gutless except at the upper limits of its rev range. I feel I have a good handle on how the car 'should' have felt too because I drove a '95 Camry V6 to the event. The Camry, by the way, feels faster and much more torquey. I don't know if it's actually faster, but it gives the impression it is, despite its long gearing. Torque isn't everything I know, but when you have to deal with an automatic transmission I think it's a bigger factor. Stuffing the 6s gas pedal off the line did nothing to threaten the front tires' traction. The Camry will claw and scratch a bit even without using the brakes to launch harder. Which btw, the 6s would not let you do (lousy computers ;)).
The steering on the 6 was also difficult for me. It has a very quick ratio compared to what I'm used to, which isn't necessarily a bad thing in itself but when the power steering is so far overboosted it becomes difficult to drive. THere is no steering feel. None. The steering wheel does not gain weight/resistance as you turn more. This is another area where I felt mom's Camry was superior. Its steering gains heft as you turn, and actually has a bit of feel to it.
On the good side, the 6 had some pretty decent suspension underneath it. The back end would step around without too much effort, and understeer was kept to a minimum in 2 out of the 3 examples I drove. The third, understeery one I think was the victim of being overdriven and the front tires were probably heat cycled to death. I could see they were bald already so I knew they wouldn't have much left. The fresher 6s in the morning were nicely balanced for a FWD sedan. Still, the steering killed a lot of my precision, as I ended up turning the wheel too much and sort of sawing at it to try to figure out what the front tires were up to.
The car did look great too, and was comfortable. The telescoping steering was cool.
Would the Camry have been faster than the 6 through the autocross? Certainly not. But it would have been much easier to drive at its limits (in fact I have a bit experience doing so with this Camry).
I test drove a 6spd Miata through another course (with an ABS stop test, some bumps, lane change maneuver, etc. Basically an 'enhanced' test drive) and felt *much* more at home in that car. I'm so used to driving lightweight, responsive RWD cars that a FWD family sedan is difficult for me to get used to.
So how did I do? Good and bad. :) For the competition, each driver got two runs. My first run was a solid one, good for 4th place overall at the time. I knew there was at least a half second I had left out there, likely more, and that if I could just keep it clean in the second run I'd be in the top 3 for sure (btw there were over 1,000 drivers participating :D). Well, I didn't keepit clean. I got a 6 s with bad front tires, I overdrove it into an understeer situation and I couldn't bring the car back. I just kept plowing and plowing and plowing, despite me being completely off the throttle. I think I hit 4 cones. I don't remember. But that run was junk. I was so pleased with how I did in my first run, it was a major downer to lose my opportunity in my second run. I really had a shot at the top time for the day, I think.
I suggested they supply RWD cars for next year. ;)