Just curious..

Ok, in Genesis Adam and Eve begat Cain and Abel.. then Cain went on to marry had Enoch.. Well who did he marry? If Adam and Eve were the only two created by God, then she must have been born of Eve right? So then Cain married his sister?

So why is incest so taboo among the western religions? It's in the Bible!! Eve came from Adam's rib.. shared his genetic material.. that's like cloning.. so if you do it with your clone is that incestuous?


Scientifically and cultrually I understand the presence of incest taboos. I'm just trying to sort out WTH is going on in the Bible.

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there were others besides Adam and Eve. They were the first, but there were others. there was one line in the bible stating there was others in general. forgot where, but its somewhere.

Your not the first to ask this

http://www.bible.com/answers/acain.html

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c004.html

This link http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/ might be handy for those of us with no Bible at work

the theory goes that while adam and eve dwelt in eden, there were people beyond the gates, who lived outside of paradise. they weren't blessed by god like adam and eve and were just normal people.
the more important question is this: since adam was the first man (a prototype or first year model if you will) there had to be certain inadequacies. and since Eve was created after Adam a peculiar question arises. if woman was created after man, did man have a penis before woman came along? i mean, while the penis serves as an excellent means of passing time, its primary function is for reproduction. so if there were no vaginas in the world for a time, would a penis have been necessary? during the time that there was no eve, why would god give adam a penis? did god create eve out of adam's rib and then add the penis? like:
GOD: "Adam, awaken!"
ADAM: "Yes my lord."
GOD: "I have taken from you a rib, and crafted for you this being called a Woman."
ADAM: "You are truely all powerful!" (bows down and worships)
GOD: "But first, to make her work, you will need this here adaptor." (Presents man with Penis)
ADAM: "It is a magnificent gift my lord! I will treasure it more than anything else in the world!"
GOD: "Good. Just do not play with it too much lest you go blind and hair sprungeth from thy hands."

"Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living."

At what part of this verse does blood erupt from the penis ? :D

Sorry. I HAD to.

the theory goes that while adam and eve dwelt in eden, there were people beyond the gates, who lived outside of paradise. they weren't blessed by god like adam and eve and were just normal people.
the more important question is this: since adam was the first man (a prototype or first year model if you will) there had to be certain inadequacies. and since Eve was created after Adam a peculiar question arises. if woman was created after man, did man have a penis before woman came along? i mean, while the penis serves as an excellent means of passing time, its primary function is for reproduction. so if there were no vaginas in the world for a time, would a penis have been necessary? during the time that there was no eve, why would god give adam a penis? did god create eve out of adam's rib and then add the penis? like:
GOD: "Adam, awaken!"
ADAM: "Yes my lord."
GOD: "I have taken from you a rib, and crafted for you this being called a Woman."
ADAM: "You are truely all powerful!" (bows down and worships)
GOD: "But first, to make her work, you will need this here adaptor." (Presents man with Penis)
ADAM: "It is a magnificent gift my lord! I will treasure it more than anything else in the world!"
GOD: "Good. Just do not play with it too much lest you go blind and hair sprungeth from thy hands."

Check out 31-38 http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/genesis/genesis19.htm

No mention of any repercussions, like this was “ok” back then.

You have very good links on the subject. But what do YOU think?

So, then why do we still have enough genetic diversity to propogate mankind? I understand that over time you species can develop genetic diversity through mutation, but in the early days, especially if they lived for 1000 years according to the bible, you would think that they would have had a very shallow gene pool in a very short time.

Check out 31-38 http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/genesis/genesis19.htm

No mention of any repercussions, like this was “ok” back then.

will God works in mysterious ways suffice? lol i'll just assume since they all lived 1000 years back in the day their genetic structure was superior and not suspect to mutation from incest.

You have very good links on the subject. But what do YOU think?

So, then why do we still have enough genetic diversity to propogate mankind? I understand that over time you species can develop genetic diversity through mutation, but in the early days, especially if they lived for 1000 years according to the bible, you would think that they would have had a very shallow gene pool in a very short time.

This is only speculation but in theory back then the gene pool was very pure. There was very little pollution, everyone working hard and in good shape. No stories about sickness or mutations. I would also assume that GOD would also “be looking out” for problems with the inbreeding and until he was happy with the numbers of people on earth keep things from getting too messed up.

It seemed to change (incest being bad) around the time of Moses
http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/leviticus/leviticus18.htm but the reason given was to ovoid “disgrace” not for health reasons like the rules against Pork & Shellfish (the unclean foods)

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ADAM: "It is a magnificent gift my lord! I will treasure it more than anything else in the world!"
GOD: "Good. Just do not play with it too much lest you go blind and hair sprungeth from thy hands."

I know it's a somewhat serious question, but I can't stop laughing at this... :p

well you also had the angels coming around and expanding the gene pool once in awhile. Read about the Nephilim.

man, this is so weird.

don't worry about the creationists, just ask the pope: genesis never really happened that way(obviously), but that understanding goes a long way to understanding the dynamic between man and woman in middle eastern culture.

What's the first thing Adam said to Eve?

"A rib? No shit."

What's the second?

"Stand back, I don't know how big this thing is going to get."