Hey guys I need some advice,

I cant afforde the rx-8 for awile...but there is an rx-7 around here with a new engine that I can get for about 9K what do you guys think about that price? How reliable is the 7 v. the 8 and stuff...or should I just wait and save up for the 8 like I was going to do.

there are serious reliability and repair issues with the FD, and is seriously only a (very serious) sports car toy... it's kinda like buying a Ferrari, at a way lower cost: ungodly fast, full of soul, a real sex symbol, but can break your balls with repairs. i've heard that they'll go at 60k miles no matter how well you take care of them, in STOCK trim.

if you upgrade the cooling system, vacuum lines, and make a few other solid, well reasoned mods to improve longevity, you could really have a sweet sweet, fast ass ride that won't be a big worry all the time.

of course, i'm not an owner, but there are lots of guys around the forum who can advise you on this.

also, get in contact with the guy who does the Beyond The Redline (http://beyondtheredline.fd3s.net) Rx site... this guy is a certifiable pro (he's rebuilt like 3 freakin' cars from scrap). but like i said, this forum, the www.rx7club.com guys... all good help.

as far as "what to get", it's up to you. these two cars are similar in a lot of ways, but also extremely different. IF i were you, i might be considering the RX-7, but only because i'm a young, single, swinging guy (even though i could use that warranty and extra two seats)... it really is up to you, your preferences, tastes, and what you expect from the car.

btw: can we get this moved to the lounge??

Thanks ill wait untill i can get the rx8

9k isn't a bad price for a clear title 93 rx-7 w/ r1 teeth shattering suspension or touring suspension. but wakeech is right, it's not an easy car to own however it is definitely fun =) and *imho* better lookin than the rx8...that being said i can't put enough wrench time to make an FD the way i like it so... rx8 =)

Originally posted by lefuton
*imho* better lookin than the rx8...

i think you'd be hard pressed to find many who think the FD is second, looks wise, to the 8...

It really depends on your situation. If the RX-7 is a second car, and you do have reliable transportation, go for it. However, if it is to be your primary car, you'd better have a lot of money. If you don't have either of these, go with the 8. Trust me. I've had my 7 less than a year, and I've already put $2K just in repairs reliability mods. Just my $0.02. I'm sure you'll enjoy either one.

you also have to look out for the new engine.
you don't know the quality of the rebuild. i have seen "remanufactured" engines have problems. get the compression and the rest of the car checked by a rotary specialist. you never know what can be leaking from the various hoses.

and i second what 93Red said. if it is a 2nd car, it will be "easier" to live with the 3rd gen.

OH geez... I finally got a reason to get a salvage rx-7.... THANKS SO MUCH WAKEE. OOO i am so happy... How much do they charge "give me a broad range" for rewaking a 93 rx-7 that's salvage. Don't know much about the car or what's missing but the car is worth 2k in this auction, but it says that the car runs but sold as is.

sounds like a fun 'little' job your going to have. try to get some pics up when/if you get the 7-

Originally posted by moogle
OH geez... I finally got a reason to get a salvage rx-7.... THANKS SO MUCH WAKEE. OOO i am so happy... How much do they charge "give me a broad range" for rewaking a 93 rx-7 that's salvage. Don't know much about the car or what's missing but the car is worth 2k in this auction, but it says that the car runs but sold as is.

ahahaha... no worries man.

get in contact with, like, anyone who's actually an owner (i'm not... yet... hopefully someday :o) and especially the guy at Beyond The Redline... it's not ALOT cheaper than just buying one in good condition, and it takes a REALLY REALLY long time, but for some (like it would for me) if you've got the resources, it's very worth it.... you'll know that your car was put together right, you'll know it inside and out, and it'll be YOUR car, every part of it.

...anyhoo, yeah.
:D hope you're happy with whatever you decide to do.

wakeech are you still planning on waiting for the 8 until after you graduate or did you put a down payment on it... it's been a while since i last heard-

Have not seen much on the subject although maybe I just have not found the right links. How hard do people think it would be to get an FD and drop the new renesis into it. HP is about the same and both being rotary the basic unit should be set up along the same axis. I also figure the reliability of the new unit should be way better then the old.

On the Miata forum there has always been the known problem that the output shaft of the rotary was too high relative to the transmission to be droped into the Miata without rebuilding the whole car.

hardest part would be finding a renesis, let alone mating a tranny, mounting etc =p

Originally posted by Strider
wakeech are you still planning on waiting for the 8 until after you graduate or did you put a down payment on it... it's been a while since i last heard-

:D an 8?? i dunno... i still really want an RX-7... ;) i'll see... but no, money is definitely an issue... such an enormous issue that i may never own a new RX for a decade or two ;)

Originally posted by lefuton
hardest part would be finding a renesis, let alone mating a tranny, mounting etc =p

i'm sure in a few years that Mazda will offer crate RENESIS motors... the mounting points on the RENESIS are probably different, but the motor is so much lower that it may not be an issue to build a brace... the clutch was the same (?) diameter, which leads me to believe that linking the two wouldn't be as mammoth a challenge as one may initially think...

those considering an FD may find this link useful, if you haven't seen it already

http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/buying.html