I have it now. 2005 Legacy GT Limited. Black with black leather.

250/HP 250 LB of tourque. AWD 13.5PSI single turbo with AWD and a multilink suspension in the back.

Got to love it.

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make take their name off of your car or make them pay you for the advertising!

oh and nice car. how much did that set you back?

edit you changed pics while i was posting the second was originally of the back and you could see the dealer badge.

Looks OK.
I like the way the circle of the headlights are indented into the bumper. And I like the turn signals on the side mirrors.
Any interior pics?
What kind of tires does it have?

Set me back 29k. But, that's with every option includeing subwoofer and amp.

I have one interior pic, will have more later. Its ony 2 days old. I will debage the car by the weekend. The only badge on there will be there LEGACY badge on the back.

Originally posted by silvercloud
Looks OK.
I like the way the circle of the headlights are indented into the bumper. And I like the turn signals on the side mirrors.
Any interior pics?
What kind of tires does it have?

Potenza RE92s..peices of crap. I have RE750s on order.

Also a STI short shifter..the shifter needs to go.

Looks great! Now time for some wheels, a little less wheel gap, an FP Green, FMIC, Utec, TBE, and... It's a good thing I don't have to pay for all that or I'd be broke, now get to work! :p

BY the way, what turbo did you guys end up with TD-04 or VF39, I've been looking everywhere and still can't find an answer.

Wow. That looks sooo good. Please post more pics me likey!

Originally posted by IkeWRX
BY the way, what turbo did you guys end up with TD-04 or VF39, I've been looking everywhere and still can't find an answer.

Yes, wheel gap huge on this car. But, I am not dieing to buy rims for this thing yet. I will just stick with the 17inchers for now. But, we have no idea what turbo it is either. They haven't disclosed that information.

Also, the car seems not to have a break in period. There is no break in period in the owners manual, and the dealer stated there was no break in. But, it won't see over 4kRPM untill after the first oil change at 700 miles.

More pictures will come soon... its too rainy for good pics.

9-K Rever

The interior is nice, I rode in it. Like it a lot, definitely a more grown up car. Engine sounds very similar to STI. I am pretty sure Subaru is not going to put the VF39 on the legacy, should be a TD-04.

Originally posted by Hanzo
The interior is nice, I rode in it. Like it a lot, definitely a more grown up car. Engine sounds very similar to STI. I am pretty sure Subaru is not going to put the VF39 on the legacy, should be a TD-04.

Whats the diffrence in those two turbos? If the VF39 is the STI turbo..that is not the turbo in the car. All I know is it doesn't share the same turbo with any other car in the line up.

I am in agreement with Hanzo. Its deffinatly targetted for a more mature market. Interior is top notch.

9-K Rever

Car looks good.
How about 215/50 17 to fill out the wheel wells.

that second shot makes it look like a Ford Taurus.

Nice Taurus, if thats your thing and all.

Personally I think it looks like a$$ with an attached hood scoup.

Originally posted by -8-
that second shot makes it look like a Ford Taurus.

It actually does, I think it's just the angle, they don't look anything like the Taurus in person but the rear half of the car in that shot certainly makes it look like one.

Originally posted by MikeW
Car looks good.
How about 215/50 17 to fill out the wheel wells.

WILL DO!!!

Originally posted by 9-K Rever
WILL DO!!!

You won't clear up that gap without a drop from some springs, trying to do it with tires is the wrong way to go.

Or I coud just go with 18's and call it a day..but, I would rather spend the wheel money on something diffrent. Like the suspension. But, thats the only thing that bugs me about its appearance. Need to fill the gap.

Originally posted by IkeWRX
You won't clear up that gap without a drop from some springs, trying to do it with tires is the wrong way to go.

The japanese models look pretty good with their 215/45 18s, and the wheel width is only 7" wide, so 225/45 17 isn't a good idea.

I wonder if the 225/50/17 will work on the stock rim..and would it make much of a diffrence.

Finally Subaru styling I like (car looks much better in real life than in these photos). Nice dials too. Congrats.

Thank you, I will get more up this weekend.

What are the performance specs on that car, very nice by the way.

Supposedly better than my RX8. I have been babying due to break it. But, it has 250HP/and 250lbft of tourque, with a 2.5 liter semi-closed deck STI engine in it.

Lets just say I am expecting 5.5 0-60..and 13.5 quatermile..but I won't know till I break it in.

Also, I has the climate control on today on the higway and the car was in in fith gear and it still pulled like a frieght train when I needed to ecelerate.

Its definatly a STI engine in that thing.

Uh oh- looks like someone's jealous! I don't think it looks anything like a Taurus. But I do think you sound like a knucklehead :p

ok, young padawan - perhaps yoda can use the force to show you the light.

"Moron, you are. Taurus, it looks like...big way, it does."

Bite me, you will. Asshat you are :)

Originally posted by jedimaster
Bite me, you will. Asshat you are :)

Jedimaster..what up dog! Let them hate its all good.

We know what's up.

Awesome car! Good looks, nice interior, and lots of power! I can't find anything I don't like about that car (except that it should have got the shorter JDM bumpers). Ford Taurus? It looks nothing like a Taurus. What model year?

I think it's badass! Everyone is entitled to thier opinion however. Also, I'm completely and 100%, unequivocally, without a doubt- correct :D

Originally posted by WRX8Titan
Awesome car! Good looks, nice interior, and lots of power! I can't find anything I don't like about that car (except that it should have got the shorter JDM bumpers). Ford Taurus? It looks nothing like a Taurus. What model year?

Thanks!! I love it, the engine pulls like a freight train. Well...it is a STI motor.

Worlds diffrent from the RX8, I love haveing tourque in every gear and not have to wring the heck out of my engine to get some power.

People seem to have issues witht the bumpers..not I.. I have issues with the "Wheal Gap", but that can be fixed in time. No big rush.

I am getting my STI short shifter installed on Monday, and I am going to debadge and take more pics this weekend. Also I am going to see if my old strut tower brace will fit... Mabey..mabey not..

Sorry - I DO see hints of the Taurus in there.

Oh crap- you're right! They both have four wheels :D

Originally posted by jedimaster
Oh crap- you're right! They both have four wheels :D


HAHAHHA!

Originally posted by jedimaster
Oh crap- you're right! They both have four wheels :D

Oh crap! And look identical! :D :D :D

sweet car. how the heck does that look like a taurus???

i love these new legacys. personally i prefer the wagon, and i like the bumpers and wheels on the jdm spec.B

congrats. tell us how it drives

You probably won't get those 0-60 and 1/4 times until it get's cooler out. I love turbos but the damn heat just kills the hell out of it. I used to have a first gen Eclipse with a 20g turbo and in the middle of the day (even with that turbo) it stuggled, but it was a huge difference at night when the temps dropped 20 degrees. Congrats and I hope you have alot of fun. Did you trade the 8 in or is this your second car?

Yeah, but I have been suprised on how strong this engine is. With the AC on on a 90degre day and the car is pulling like a mule.

Its also a 2.5 liter semi-opean deck engine...its crazy strong!! Plus, the body is made of a ass load of aluminum so its light as hell!

More pics to come over the weekend.

Hey, that thing got a Hemi? Ok sorry no.

But, is it a turbo-boxer-4 quad-vario-cam?

I hadn't realized they made Legacy sedans. Here in LA I only see Legacy wagons and Outbacks.. along with the normal hordes of WRXs and STis.

I think I should get one for my mum.

Originally posted by 9-K Rever
Yeah, but I have been suprised on how strong this engine is. With the AC on on a 90degre day and the car is pulling like a mule.

Its also a 2.5 liter semi-opean deck engine...its crazy strong!! Plus, the body is made of a ass load of aluminum so its light as hell!

More pics to come over the weekend.

Now you just talk like a ghetto person.

Originally posted by 9-K Rever
I wonder if the 225/50/17 will work on the stock rim..and would it make much of a diffrence.

50 series tires are too fat on the side wall, you'll get even more body roll than now and the side wall will eat away fast when you corner. Not a good profile for performance car.

Originally posted by Hanzo
Now you just talk like a ghetto person.

That wasn't very nice. Hoser.

Originally posted by jedimaster
That wasn't very nice. Hoser.

Jedi..its okay! He's cool. He's been my friend since highschool...

He's jokeing. I can crack on his EVO with leaky door seals.

Talk about a Japanese car built on a Monday...YIKES...

japanese cars suck ;)

Originally posted by 9-K Rever
Jedi..its okay! He's cool. He's been my friend since highschool...

He's jokeing. I can crack on his EVO with leaky door seals.

Talk about a Japanese car built on a Monday...YIKES...

Damn...

Originally posted by GiN
Hey, that thing got a Hemi? Ok sorry no.

But, is it a turbo-boxer-4 quad-vario-cam?

I hadn't realized they made Legacy sedans. Here in LA I only see Legacy wagons and Outbacks.. along with the normal hordes of WRXs and STis.

I think I should get one for my mum.


This thing has variable exhaust valve timing?

Originally posted by MikeW
This thing has variable exhaust valve timing?

Subaru uses AVCS (Active Valve Control System) variable valve timing technology to optimize the engine’s volumetric efficiency throughout the rev band.

Yup..its a beast of an engine.

Do you know why they lowered the redline of the engine in the Legacy? The redline at 6500 is the same as the other 2.5L H4s in Subaru's various models, lower than the 7000 rpm redline in the STi's 2.5L H4. I'm just wondering why Subaru's engineers felt the need to drop the redline.

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?postid=413801

http://www.velozt.com/elements/04-wrx-sti/04-STi-gauge.jpg

That is a good question. that has been thrown about here at www.legacysti.com . But, I just feel that tourqe delivery is at a much lower RPM and it reaches its maximum HP lower so the need to ring it out that high is not there.

Plus, I think they STI is supposed to have a sportier feel, and good sports cars have high red lines.

Different cam lobes.
The engine basically has porsches variocam+ system, camswitching and camphasing on the intake side.
There is little diffence in maximum boost 1-2 psi, not enough to account for 50hp (and 500rpms), considering the better intercooler of the Legacy.

http://autozine.kyul.net/technical_school/engine/vvt_31.htm#Variocam%20Plus

Originally posted by MikeW
Different cam lobes.
The engine basically has porsches variocam+ system, camswitching and camphasing on the intake side.
There is little diffence in maximum boost 1-2 psi, not enough to account for 50hp (and 500rpms), considering the better intercooler of the Legacy.

http://autozine.kyul.net/technical_school/engine/vvt_31.htm#Variocam%20Plus

Correct.

Originally posted by MikeW
Different cam lobes.
The engine basically has porsches variocam+ system, camswitching and camphasing on the intake side.
There is little diffence in maximum boost 1-2 psi, not enough to account for 50hp (and 500rpms), considering the better intercooler of the Legacy.

http://autozine.kyul.net/technical_school/engine/vvt_31.htm#Variocam%20Plus

WOW MIKE!! :) AWSOME POST!

The boxing 6 has this, and so does the WRX STi, so why not the Legacy? This would allow for better mileage and emissions, and STi matching power. Maybe the manual cannot handle over 275ft-lbs of torque.:(

Well, lets keep in mind that it is a DE-TUNED STI engine..thay may be part of the DE-TUNING.

Originally posted by PoorCollegeKid
Do you know why they lowered the redline of the engine in the Legacy?

If the engine internals are heavier, it wouldn't be able to rev as high as the sti's engine.

Originally posted by PoorCollegeKid
Do you know why they lowered the redline of the engine in the Legacy?

If the engine internals are heavier, it wouldn't be able to rev as high as the sti's engine.

Originally posted by julian
If the engine internals are heavier, it wouldn't be able to rev as high as the sti's engine.

From what I've read, the internals of the engine are exactly the same. The different cam timing makes sense and seems to be the prevailing theory so far (although the Legacy GT still uses the AVCS system), but I was wondering if anyone has actually opened the engine up and verified that the cams in the Legacy GT are indeed different from those in the STi.

Originally posted by PoorCollegeKid
From what I've read, the internals of the engine are exactly the same. The different cam timing makes sense and seems to be the prevailing theory so far (although the Legacy GT still uses the AVCS system), but I was wondering if anyone has actually opened the engine up and verified that the cams in the Legacy GT are indeed different from those in the STi.

I am sure they just tune down the power so they can up it on the later model and keeps selling these cars. Not to mention they don't want to out spec their flat 6 version which has the same horse power.

It already out specs the 6 cyleder version. The turbo 4 has more tourque.

The 6 cylender is just a marketing ploy.

I am haveing my car detailed today, I will get pics up as soon as its done.

9-K Rever

Originally posted by 9-K Rever
It already out specs the 6 cyleder version. The turbo 4 has more tourque.

The 6 cylender is just a marketing ploy.

I am haveing my car detailed today, I will get pics up as soon as its done.

9-K Rever

Yes I'm talking about horsepower. You know most people don't even care and know of the torque numbers.

But, its the same HP Hanzo..they both have 250 hp!

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Originally posted by 9-K Rever
But, its the same HP Hanzo..they both have 250 hp!

Yes I know, that is why I say they don't want to "out gun" it. They are the same.

Originally posted by Hanzo
Yes I know, that is why I say they don't want to "out gun" it. They are the same.


But Hanzo.. what I am trying to say is the H6 is out classed by the turbo B4. The H6 is a heavier car, and it has less tourqe. The B4 sedan is lighter has the same HP and more Torque. The H6 is just here for the american market for those people that think 6 is better than 4...

Originally posted by 9-K Rever
But Hanzo.. what I am trying to say is the H6 is out classed by the turbo B4. The H6 is a heavier car, and it has less tourqe. The B4 sedan is lighter has the same HP and more Torque. The H6 is just here for the american market for those people that think 6 is better than 4...

Like I said, people only look at HP numbers they don't know if it is heavier or has less torque.

And the American marketing thing, I was the one that told you that last time. Ralph agrees with me as well.

Originally posted by Hanzo
Like I said, people only look at HP numbers they don't know if it is heavier or has less torque.

And the American marketing thing, I was the one that told you that last time. Ralph agrees with me as well.

Yup, and it was a good point! Right on target! :)

WOW! what a nice car with a perfect matching color! btw, whats ur username at legacysti.com?
:P

Originally posted by AltecLansing
WOW! what a nice car with a perfect matching color! btw, whats ur username at legacysti.com?
:P

Thanks! On the Legacysti forum I am B4_Maniac.

I think thats going to be my plate too..either that or USDM B4.

how much did u pay for it? is it an auto or stick?

Stick of course. 29k

Very nice, it’s a shame that they can't make the WRX and STi look as nice. Congratulations.

Originally posted by StphNieuw
Very nice, it’s a shame that they can't make the WRX and STi look as nice. Congratulations.


You know what....I thought the same thing...But oh well...diffrent car diffrent stylings.

From this pic (http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=432378), I think it looks more like a cross between a Mustang and an Accord, than a Taurus.