View Full Version : Concerned about new sound coming from engine


RXGr8
06-11-2004, 10:56 AM
A couple weeks ago my engine started to sound different. It's hard to describe, but the sound makes me imagine one of the apex seals is loose or damaged because when I first start the engine up when it's cold there's a consistent ticking noise. The rhythm of the ticking change as the revs change. When I finally start to drive and I accelerate, the noise changes to a "ssssssss", like maybe the extra combustion pressure from the acceleration pushes the seal against the chamber harder. Eventually the sound goes away once I've driven for a while.

I could be way off but can anybody offer some speculation about what the problem is?

Sea Ray
06-11-2004, 11:12 AM
I have a new noise that is more of a vacum leak type. It comes and goes, and does also sound like it could be a ticking at different rpm's. It did show itself at the dealer during an oil change, and even the service mgr, who really knows his stuff, could not track it down. The sound appears to be coming from the passenger side of the engine, towards the rear.

Haze
06-11-2004, 11:36 AM
Could be a thousand things including a leaking exhaust manifold gasket. A stethescope (or hose in your ear) used to walk around the engine can help narrow down from which part of the engine the sound is coming from. Best of luck.

Other_Dave
06-11-2004, 11:55 AM
RxGr8,
If it were a piston engine, I'd say you were describing the sound of an engine with not enough oil. Don't know what that translates to on a rotary. I'd have it checked out anyway, I don't like funny engine noises.
--Dave.

JimW
06-11-2004, 02:59 PM
I have the same exact sound. I noticed it at 4500 miles. It is not the noise that you hear when idiling with the clutch disengaged, but different. I have also noticed that it changes in variation to RPMs as well. I think it is a slight exhaust leak emitting from the catilytic converter flanges on the engine side. I wonder what could cause this, bad cat?

MyRxBad
06-14-2004, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by RXGr8
A couple weeks ago my engine started to sound different. It's hard to describe, but the sound makes me imagine one of the apex seals is loose or damaged because when I first start the engine up when it's cold there's a consistent ticking noise. The rhythm of the ticking change as the revs change. When I finally start to drive and I accelerate, the noise changes to a "ssssssss", like maybe the extra combustion pressure from the acceleration pushes the seal against the chamber harder. Eventually the sound goes away once I've driven for a while.

I could be way off but can anybody offer some speculation about what the problem is?

If one of the apex seals had let go, you would know.. It would sound like a lose bolt in the engine. AS for the noise... It would be hard to tell you what it is without more info. Try the stethoscope method.

Adamrotor
06-14-2004, 11:34 AM
Me too I just discovered it yestereday its only when the car is cold.

It sort of sounds like tik tik tik tik tik, but the car is warm it dont do it no more. I dont remember if that was there or not theres no engine light but maybe if I check it up with the dealer it might be more helpfl.

DaoTan
06-14-2004, 02:02 PM
The ticking noise may be the injectors, they tick when cold in many other cars, may be the same for the RX8 as well. The vacuum leak you discribe is probably the electrically driven smog pump. It is located on the passenger side, just behind the shock tower.

stangmatt66
06-14-2004, 03:38 PM
Mine ticks all the time and varies with the RPMs. I was thinking it was a sticky belt so i tried some belt dressing, but it only made the sound worse. I'll bring it to my dealer's attention on my next service (and then they'll tell me they can't recreate the sound and give me the car back still ticking..argh).

cas2themoe
06-14-2004, 04:06 PM
I have an AT RX8 and I noticed the same some when I first start the car but it goes away after the car warms up. I have no idea what it is caused from!

Elara
06-14-2004, 04:10 PM
How weird- I noticed something like this the other day- but I don't know if it's normal and I just couldn't hear it before because I always have the stereo up, or if it's really something new. The car isn't acting funny, though, and it just had it's 15k checkup a week ago.

Senseny
06-14-2004, 05:27 PM
I don't know what the sound is, but I would bet it isn't your any of the apex seals. Ticking has been related to fuel delivery in the experiences I have had, so injectors sounds like a good bet. Have it checked and please let us know.

rockin
06-14-2004, 06:13 PM
My engine just started to make a simulor sound. But when it is warm it makes a high pitch wistle (kind of like your ears ringing but a little lower) and the idle is a little ruff. I wonder if it is the same problem.

mikeb
06-16-2004, 01:31 AM
so what the hell is it

RevRotor9000
06-16-2004, 03:37 PM
RXGr8

Thanks for making this thread. I've been trying to figure out how to describe the noise I've noticed for some time. I have the same situation at a cold start. The "ticking" noise will eventually go away when the car is warm. Sometimes I notice it before I shut the car off. I wasn't sure if it was something normal since I used to start my car with the doors closed and the radio on. Now I start my car with the doors open just to see if I get the noise. I want to know what it is because it doesn't sound natural to me. Please let me know if you come up with any findings. I'm gonna have it checked on my next visit. Lets hope its nothing serious.

Atacdad
06-16-2004, 04:17 PM
timely thread, I first heard this two days ago as well. Only when cold.

JimW
06-16-2004, 06:09 PM
My car is in the shop for this and other reasons. I will report what they find.

RCCAZ 1
06-16-2004, 06:17 PM
I'm guessing that it's some sort of exhaust leak. Could be injectors, but I highly doubt it given the low mileage. Also, several have indicated that the sound goes away or changes once the car is warmed up, which indicates a small exhaust leak to me. We'll see. Let us know the final verdict!

RevRotor9000
06-16-2004, 09:39 PM
I listened some more today and am having a very hard time figuring out where it comes from. Its mostly noticeable when the car has been cold for a long time (like when I first start it in the morning). Unfortunately its hard to show the dealership what your talking about since the car will be warmed up by the time you drive it there. I have on occasion noticed the sound after the car has been warmed up and during driving. We need a RX-Detective. Anybody out there have any clues?

Kewl
06-16-2004, 09:53 PM
Idler Pulley? I used an engine stethoscope to try and locate the noise, but of course it doesn't make the noise when I have the scope around. On a recent long highway trip the ticking was really loud when I stopped for gas. I was expecting something to fall off the car at any minute...never did of course.

Even so I checked the sound of the alternator, water pump, AC compressor, engine in general...all smooth and quiet. Yes, the engine was running..... The Idler pulley (tension pulley is likely a more correct name for this unti) for the drive belt....well that damn thing would knock you ears off it was so loud. Not a ticking noise, just damn loud.

I don't really think it is the pulley, but I'm hoping to hear the tick again soon so I can track it down with the scope. Will let you know what I find.

kellybrf
06-16-2004, 11:54 PM
ok, heres another one. i noticed what sounded like the front input shaft whirring when the clutch was disengaged. it was very prominent and two very knowledgable car people (my dad and one of his friends) were there and verified it. after about five minutes of engaging/disengaging it went away.

RevRotor9000
06-17-2004, 09:58 AM
Hey Kellybrf,

I was wondering what you dad and friend thought it was? So far on this thread it is believed to be an injector or exhaust leak. Did they feel it was the same thing?.

Rotor_Newbie
06-18-2004, 07:26 PM
Heard the ticking noise for the first time on my car today when I started it.. Please let us know what your dealer found.

kellybrf
06-18-2004, 09:05 PM
front impact shaft bearing, but mine was a different noise. it was a definate whirring, no clicking involved

itisPRECIOUS2me
06-18-2004, 11:42 PM
I've noticed a ticking lately too. I haven't really paid much attention but it does seem like it happens before it warms up.

RevRotor9000
06-19-2004, 01:12 AM
I used to think it was what the guy from Rosenthal Mazda said on one of his posts about the car using lean mixture. This would sometimes cause the engine to make a squeaky drive belt noise or ticking upon startup or sometimes during accelaration. This made me feel like it was normal but I've been listening to it more often and I don't quite like how it is sounding cause it doesn't sound normal.

Outlaws eXtreme
06-19-2004, 05:02 AM
Where's rotarygod to come and explain this to all of us?

Rotor_Newbie
06-19-2004, 06:53 AM
i just remember something.... right before the noise started to happen, i was blowing leaves/dirt away from my driveway. I aimed the thing under the 8.. maybe something got caught in the belts or something.. I dunno.. but the noise is gone now and i have no idea why..... hey... its freaking 5am on saturday.. couldn't sleep all night.. and i'm at work now.. so don't expect anything smart coming out of these brain cells..

Winning_BlueRX8
06-20-2004, 10:45 PM
I just noticed the sound coming from my 8. Any real explanation, or at least some bullshit explanations from the dealership?

MazdaManiac
06-28-2004, 01:37 PM
Odd -

My car just started to make an RPM-dependant ticking sound as well.
However, mine occurs after the motor has gotten good and hot.
It appears to be coming from the vicinity of the rear leading plug.
I'll get a good track on it soon with a piece of rubber pipe.

Gyro
07-19-2004, 11:52 AM
I'm a new member to the ticking cub!

It is definately a new sound, i'm very in touch with this stuff :cool:


I too (like Mazda Maniac) noticed it when my car was very hot after a 200 mile highway ride. It is RPM dependant as well.

The next day (today) I noticed it again on a cold start. hmmmm. It went away after 20 minutes or so.


Its been a month since this thread was started...anyone have any info on what it may be? Dealer BS or anything?

MM....How did your plastic pipe thing go?

Rotor_Newbie
07-19-2004, 01:26 PM
mine actually stopped doing it for some strange reason.. and i didn't do anything to fix it.. nto even look to see where the noise is coming from.. maybe it was a cat that was inside the engine and it finally got out.. who knows.

Atacdad
07-19-2004, 02:07 PM
I have found the source of one "ticking". This weekend I started the car after it sat out in the texas heat (porch temp read 102, car read 101) and heard a god-awful TICK TICK TICK. An aquaintence standing near said, "better get those lifters looked at or your valves are going to get screwed":) ...so you know what it sounded like.... Inspection of the engine revealed a part on the intake runners was ticking...must be that solenoid...if I pinched the hose running to/from that area, it quit ticking and the engine hiccupped once then adjusted. ticking came back when I released my pinch and the engine idle smoothed out. Drove home. Let car sit several hours, started it and it ticked for about 10 seconds and then stopped ticking. Hasn't come back since (and its not as hot outside).

I'm speculating that it was some sort of adjustment for the ambient air being so hot.

ticking device is front center of the black plastic runners, with and electrical connection to the left side of if.

Gyro
07-19-2004, 02:35 PM
My quest to find the source of the sound didnt end so happy.......at least the way it looks.

see this thread for the story. :eek:

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=34468