Ummmm yeah.... do you guys still think this car is going to beat a Z around the track?

:o

Who said it was??

Around the track? Yes.

In a straight line? No.

Simple enough?

ummmmm i said it many times, and i still do...... is there a reason i shouldn't?

Originally posted by ToRX-8orToZ
Ummmm yeah.... do you guys still think this car is going to beat a Z around the track?

:o

Ummmmm....who gives a rat's ass!

All of this boy racer stuff is really wearing thin....I was afraid this would happen as the launch date for the RX-8 grows nearer!

Ummmm Let me think. The 8 fits 4 adults and weighs less then the 350Z. Sounds pretty damn good to me. If you are buying this car to race, you should go elsewhere.

According to rotarynews, there is a team that is going to be campaigning the pettit racing fd rx7 in the speed world challenge series, with plans to eventually be campainging a couple rx8s, when this happens, assuming someone else decides to run the 350z we'll get to see which one is finishing in front of the other.

I missed the part where a stock 350Z on street tires managed a Laguna Seca lap better than 1:50...


TROLL

Originally posted by m477
I missed the part where a stock 350Z on street tires managed a Laguna Seca lap better than 1:50...


TROLL
I was just going to mirror your last line.

Get the hell off this board if you don't have anything to contribute except TROLL trash.

Get the hell off this board if you don't have anything to contribute except TROLL trash.

You're such a great moderator Hercules.

Anyhow, I just wanted to bring the subject up again, since most of the people flaming me here insisted the 8 would beat the Z around the "track" in a thread a couple of months ago.

You were wrong then, and you're wrong now.

I'm buying an 8, because its gonna be a "fun to drive" car with "sports car like" characteristics and 4 seats. It is not competition for a GT, or true sports car. It is not competition for a Z; while I hate mag racing, the numbers are so far off that its blatantly obvious to anyone who knows ANYTHING about racing that this car is going to get owned by the Z on the street, and handily beat on the track.

Yeah HP and torque numbers are SUCH a great indicator of track performance :rolleyes:
Let's see some 350Z Laguna Seca numbers!

A little googling turned up this thread on C&D forums by a guy named "buger" asking for Laguna Seca track times:
http://forums.caranddriver.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=19&t=000505
Could it be the same buger ? ;)

I'm not saying the rx8 can nevar l00se, but I'm willing to put good money on that it'll do much better then the magazine-racer numbers suggest!

If a track was a perfect circle then the 8 would probably win but its not :l

yeah that's our Buger allright!!:D

Originally posted by Zio
If a track was a perfect circle then the 8 would probably win but its not :l

So you think the few straights will make that big of a difference ? If my understanding is correct you can come out of a corner with high revs, if you select the right gear you'll never notice the difference in low end torque.. It'll be much closer than you think.

The function of a moderator, is to weed out trollish posts and stop them before they start a flame war.

That's exactly what you're aching for -- and I don't want to see it happen. We don't need these low intelligence posts that are meant just to elicit a response from people that have been rather quiet and calm.

So you are buying an RX-8, good for you! The fact that the 350Z got top honors around a track (that is mainly STRAIGHTS) doesn't mean a damn thing. Let's get it onto Nurburgring vs the RX-8 and we'll see then eh? Or even Laguna Seca. I think the 350Z will be in the rear view mirror of the RX-8 because guess what... there's not as many straights on a track like Nurburgring or Laguna Seca.

Thus, please stop the trolling and if you have something to contribute we're happy to hear it. If your post says "I told you so" then my hope is that the mods on this forum decide to ban you quickly.. People like degrade good conversations (I've seen it on my site) and turn them into flame fests.

My expectations for this site are the same as my own -- a good natured, spirited, and EDUCATIONAL discussion. If you can't abide by that, I'll repeat it again: Get the hell off this board.

The function of a moderator, is to weed out trollish posts and stop them before they start a flame war.

Whos making a trollish post? I'm simply pointing out how you, and a couple of other people who frequent this forum are dilusional.

That's exactly what you're aching for -- and I don't want to see it happen. We don't need these low intelligence posts that are meant just to elicit a response from people that have been rather quiet and calm.

How long did it take you to think of a veiled personal insult like that? I'm aching for this car to get its credit (where its due), and for people to recognize what it is... and what it is not. If you, and people like you, continue to hype this car as something it isnt, you're setting it up so haters can claim that its simply another underpowered chick car that should be religated for civic like status. The 8 will be a new breed of car... but its not gonna be beating down any performance doors; the 7 will do that.

My expectations for this site are the same as my own -- a good natured, spirited, and EDUCATIONAL discussion. If you can't abide by that, I'll repeat it again: Get the hell off this board.

This coming from a guy who went off on a diatribe about how the 8 was going to handle better because it had a limited slip and the Z didnt. Where did you matriculate from again? Please, don't spout of poor attempts at insults.

*yawn*

If it looks like a troll, smells like a troll, acts like a troll, and thinks like a troll...

it must be a troll.

If it looks like a troll, smells like a troll, acts like a troll, and thinks like a troll...

Is that your idea of educated commentary?

if my celica can pass a 350z on the track then I'm sure our cars can too. . . that's all I'm sayin'

Originally posted by ToRX-8orToZ

You're such a great moderator Hercules.

Seriously, you've been trolling on this forum for quite some time now and it's no secret to anyone. You should be thankful that Herc and the other mods have been so patient with you, because if it was up to me, you would have been banned a long time ago. Flame me if you want, but I will no longer bother with this worthless thread.

The track time of a 350Z vs an RX-8 - my opinion:
on any given day, either can win. Given the option of the rotary hands down I'll take an RX. Where would I put my other 1 or 2 passengers in the Z that are sitting in the back seat of my RX-8???

This is just the beginning of the return of the rotary, IMHO.
A slightly larger rotary using this new technology with a few pounds trimeed - all a Z will be seeing around a track is the back of a new RX-7 - and the sides as the Z's getting passed, the front as it approaches before passing, etc., etc., etc.

Weed away Herc....

BTW I drove Nurburgring (old track) in my Z28 back in the day ('89). That track is mad twisty as it winds through a few small towns. Anyway I was passed by a few lesser HP cars (944's, VW GTI's etc) why? Because they like the 8 handle so much better at a faster average speed than a lot of higher HP/Torgue cars. Of course I made up some ground on the couple longer straights but not enough :mad:

I did blow away a bunch of Citroens though :D


I got his "told ya so" hangin'. Buy a Civic Troll.

I myself was stunned at the 1:50 that BM ran at Laguna. That's an amzaing time for a stock car.

FYI- the downfall of the 350Z on the track, even the Track package, are its brakes. Last time I was at Sears Point, the 350Z had to go back into the pits after several hard laps as he was getting huge brake fade.

I actually was surprised at the time of the RX8 at Laguna as I would have expected that the long uphill and the long straight would work against its modest power. But hey- great chasis balance pays off.

I'd fuly expect at power tracks like Willow Springs for the Z to top the RX-8. But the 8 can clearly hold its own on the track, and take the Z at a good number of tracks.

NB- I'm just talking stock vs stock. Obviously any mods will change everything.

Oh- and here's praying for the 8 to do well so Mazda will finally come out with a new RX-7 and I can finally own a brand new RX-7.

300hp plus 2600lbs plus stiffer body plus more aggressive suspension = an incredible track car for the street.

I still love watching the clip of a last gen RX-7 smoking the Porsche Turbo of that year around the Nurburing.

Seriously, you've been trolling on this forum for quite some time now and it's no secret to anyone.

Trolling? Because I have a realistic view of what the RX-8 is going to be. This isnt the 7 folks.

Originally posted by ToRX-8orToZ


Trolling? Because I have a realistic view of what the RX-8 is going to be. This isnt the 7 folks. I'd encourage the rest of our members that unless this guy has anything to contribute as per valid questions instead of pointless comments, please refrain from commenting to ANY of his posts.

And with that, please don't reply any more to this thread. I personally don't stand much for trolling, and this guy is a true troll.

Again I have no problem with a valid dialogue about problems that may plague the RX-8, or comparisons of different cars with the RX-8, but keep them constructive and educational for the community here. These "I told you so" posts shouldn't be tolerated by our community and that's why I'm asking... please do not reply to this thread any further. Let ToRX-8orToZ reply to himself. When he's ready to rejoin the discussions that go on in proper fashion we can welcome him back.

Let it be a sign that the RX-8forum.com members won't stand for the trollish posts! We won't need mods to close threads because members just ignore those who make no valid contributions. Already I've gotten a tad irritated at him and now that I've calmed... I feel stupid for even partaking in the conversation. Won't happen again.

so don't reply any more :D