:rolleyes: Why would a mod need to lock it -- there's nothing illegal, offensive or immoral going on ;)

5 posts and he owns the forum.

Ya, the two I've seen were negative towards me! I wonder what the other three were about.

If it's about his wife, I'm not seeing her anymore.

Moostafa will take her off your hands. Whoops, that should have been a pm.

194 pages over almost 2 years and no moderator has locked this thread yet?

Unreal.
Here's a reality check. I'm a mod and you aren't. I like the thread.

Ya, the two I've seen were negative towards me! I wonder what the other three were about.

If it's about his wife, I'm not seeing her anymore.

They were about pictures of a car for sale, an Altima vs an RX-8, and a Vette.

"He" also shares the same IP address with a "she" who spends her time between Arizona and Oregon. "She" also only has a few posts but none of them were anywhere that would have been seen by most. "He" doesn't have any personal information on the site but "she" does.

I am a newb when it comes to rotory engine cars but I have to say I have learned a lot from this thread even if it wasn't always on topic, I don't care there are a lot of smart people posting valuable info.

194 pages over almost 2 years and no moderator has locked this thread yet?

Unreal.


We all read it...

At 194 pages Tolstoy may not yet have to worry about coming up with an addendum to War & Peace, but .... , IMO it is a little hard to figure when, if ever there might be an end in sight. I worry I may have to move along to some other form of transport with a bit more bhp before this ever sorts itself out ..... the OrscheP Cayman is (unfortunately) starting to look pretty attractive except for its entry price point.

Come on RP! As Pogo is alleged to've said, "We have met the enemy, and he is us."

RP, save us from ourselves

The world wasn't created in a day. It takes time to fabricate this sort of thing.

Name dropper

how fast can the compressor blades safely spin?

how fast can the compressor blades safely spin?


50,000 RPM. More complicated then that because of "Mach number effects" meaning some parts of the blade go sonic before the tip speed does. Anyway for your answer 50k is a good number.

oh ok...

i was kinda wondering about fitting a compressor section onto a turbo back side to take advantage of the adiabatic efficiency of the axialflow, without the parasitic loss from the belt.

but i think too much.

^and the turbo spooled up by the time the cows came home.
(...the inertia of 4 or 5 axial flow wheels is probably way higher than 1 radial flow wheel - not to mention the added complexity).

(Btw the very first turbocharger patent from 1905 shows an axial flow compressor and an axial flow turbine.)

how do parts of the blade go sonic before the tips?

how do parts of the blade go sonic before the tips?


The tip speed is a function of the radius. The air speed is a function of fluid dynamics. The air goes around and through the blades so it travels further. To complicate things the air goes faster on top of the blade then the bottom. Then you get into radius at the root and air leakage etc. etc. So there are numorous factors that combine to make Mach Effects.

In WWII at the end of the development of piston engine fighter planes pilots were having problems in high speed dives. While they were a long way from sonic but there were some parts of the wing surfaces that were seeing high enough speed to pressure the control surfaces as they were to hard for manual manipulation.


Mlx8, It just dawned on me that you wasted your time in school studying lit when you should've been off campus with the rest of us drinking and chasing girls.

(Btw the very first turbocharger patent from 1905 shows an axial flow compressor and an axial flow turbine.)


never hears of that before. got a link to the info? search came out negative.

I do have to say that if the axial flow only takes about 20 hp to drive to make it's rated power, that's a far smaller load than any turbo takes by restricting off the exhaust flow the way they do. That's pretty damn good. There is no free power.

never hears that before
On the patent you could clearly see how the turbo from 1905 was built.
Here's an article about its invention http://www.gizmag.co.uk/go/4848/1/
Unfortunately the picture of the patent is gone.

It is not surprising though. Parsons steam turbines were built in the 1880's already and they were axialflow type. Radial flow wasn't well known or at least not as popular back then.

Here's a picture from an axial flow steam turbine wheel from 1884:
http://www.history.rochester.edu/steam/parsons/Fig_6.GIF
http://www.history.rochester.edu/steam/parsons/part1.html

On the patent you could clearly see how the turbo from 1905 was built.
Here's an article about its invention http://www.gizmag.co.uk/go/4848/1/
Unfortunately the picture of the patent is gone.

It is not surprising though. Parsons steam turbines were built in the 1880's already and they were axialflow type. Radial flow wasn't well known or at least not as popular back then.

Here's a picture from an axial flow steam turbine wheel from 1884:
http://www.history.rochester.edu/steam/parsons/Fig_6.GIF
http://www.history.rochester.edu/steam/parsons/part1.html


Funny thing, see post 5 page 1 this thread.

BTW Parsons first patent on axialflow compression in late 1800's was wrong. However His 1910 patent was the basis for axialflow development thereafter. I guess the guy knew his shit. Pity he's not around to see what has happened with his work.
His discovery was that steam turbine blades worked great because the constant energy being supplied by expanding gases away from the blade surface. This was not the case in compressing against the surface. His first patent was just using turbine design in a compressor which didn't work well. Defining the difference in 1910 formed the basis for future development.

cool stuff. i got a few weeks of homework now :p:

50,000 RPM. More complicated then that because of "Mach number effects" meaning some parts of the blade go sonic before the tip speed does. Anyway for your answer 50k is a good number.

50,000 damn!

cool stuff. i got a few weeks of homework now
me too. been following (trying to follow) this thread for a while and have LEARNED A CRAP LOAD!!! I hope learn enough by the time this SC kit is done.

I do have to say that if the axial flow only takes about 20 hp to drive to make it's rated power
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but are there ways to further minamize this parasitic loss without loss of charger efficiency?

is there a release date yet. not even a set date but a time frame

It will happen - he is commited, but asking for a date, well make sure Richard has a new dress to wear, and take him to the best place in town. :)

i should put one on my fd :)

is there a release date yet. not even a set date but a time frameHere's a cheery little story that pops into my mind, esp it being spring of the 3rd year after the RENESIS. RP I appreciate all your valiant efforts and applaud all others (so many it seems) who are also laboring as well, but a bit of comic tragedy is good for the soul, yes?

[{} being mine and apologies for blasphemous story editing of SB's plot]

For those who have studied the original play it does seem eerily appropriate for us who keep returning to all these threads. I'm always ready to keep coming back whenever I get the 'new post' call ever hopeful, and it seems I always find ... well... not to give away the story, read on.

"The plot of Samuel Beckett's Waiting for Godot {major power upgrades or MPUs for short} is simple to relate. Two tramps {aka forum members or FMs for short} are waiting by a sickly looking tree {aka forum thread] for the arrival of MPUs. A young boy arrives to say that MPUs will not come today, but that he will come tomorrow. They do not come and the two FMs resume their vigil by the tree, the only symbol of a possible order in a thoroughly alienated world.

The unity of place is a muddy plateau with one tree, a kind of gallows which invites the FMs to consider hanging themselves. This place is any place. It is perhaps best characterized as being the place where MPUs are not. As the play unfolds we come to realize that MPUs are not in any place comparable to the setting of the play. They will not come out of one place into another. The unity of time is two days, but it might be any sequence of days in anyone's life. Time is equivalent to what is announced in the title: the act of waiting.

Time is really immobility, although a few minor changes do take place during the play. The act of waiting is never over, and yet it mysteriously starts up again each day. The action, in the same way, describes a circle. Each day is the return to the beginning. Nothing is completed because nothing can be completed. The despair in the play, which is never defined as such but which pervades all the lack of action and gives the play its metaphysical color, is the fact that the two FMs cannot NOT wait for MPUs..."

I always liked that one...

I get the feeling that RP is more waiting/working for ECU management at this point as much as anything else...could be wrong, of course...

It will happen - he is commited, but asking for a date, well make sure Richard has a new dress to wear, and take him to the best place in town. :)


i always loved your post. you like to be funny, so do I. The way i see it there is no point of living if you cant laugh at life itself....


keep posting like the way you do

Hopfully in a little while Ajax will be posting some new pictures for us.

You will see a intake experement that increases volocity of the charge. We are trying this because we can't make the intake longer and we want to increase low end torque. It's not practical as a production part due to fabrication costs.

Then there will be the mold for the carbon fiber inlet duct. This goes from the S/C inlet to the TB.

Now this is a product that will solve all the fueling problems forever. :jump:

It is a manifold to hold up to a 55 DCO Weber. It outlets in a 80mm ID 3.5" hose.
No other adapter has been made to hold more then a 45mm carb. :puke:
Also no one else makes it into a tube so as to be universal.
This is our own casting and is not offered anywhere else. I know I'll get yelled at for this but you make all the castings you want for your own tricks.

Are you going to offer different levels of performance? I'm only looking for a liitle boost. :rolleyes: This sounds like a highway star machine :rock:

Come on Ajax :D:

Are you going to offer different levels of performance? I'm only looking for a liitle boost. :rolleyes: This sounds like a highway star machine :rock:

Come on Ajax :D:

Let me check and see if Gomez is paying attention, he can do it.


Gomez said OK, they're in his hands.

Heres one I tried.
See if it comes out

Not to good.

Ok, I'm back....gimme 10 mins to sort them out!!

I know what you're doing. You're punishing me 'cause your check is late again.

Sorted....batch of pics #1.

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=74745

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=74746

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=74747

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=74749

Batch of pics #2......


http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=74750

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=74751

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=74752

Thats it folks....nice work there Richard!!

15 mins work @ $100USD/hour=$25 Richard ;)

Same method as usual. That'll be ace, buddy.... :smoker:

Ok sorry for the ingnorance in this question, I am pretty sure I have followed most of this thread until now. You are adding a carb to this for the extra fuel needs. Is this correct? And if so, where is the carb going to be located? I remember talk about adding another injector pre-AFS before.

No he isn't adding a carb for this project. The carb is HIS project that he'd like to see work on a Renesis.

You are adding a carb to this for the extra fuel needs. Is this correct? And if so, where is the carb going to be located? I remember talk about adding another injector pre-AFS before.

I'll go out on a limb and put forward this theory.....the Weber adapter is another of Richards projects and is unrelated to the AFSC project.

I could be wrong though, he is a crazy mixed up stuck-in-the-sixties Yank!!!

thanks for doing the photo gomez. only comment.

OOOOOHHHHH, AAAHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!! and i hit 50 k miles in about 3 months. time line seems to be working out.


beers :beer:

Sweet intake. Runners for all the ports. Just wish it would be done sooner :) I bet a lot of the guys here are anxious :P

Nice work Richard! If you just wanted a Webber adaptor for a 13B, you could have always just asked ;)

Cheers,
Hymee

Gomez gets the prize, it was for the Latham Supercharger.
The one photo that is not identified is a section of the new inlet volute.
It shows the shape of the airflow. It's kinda hard to see it without the right shadows so just keep looking until you see it.

Hymee, is there a 13b adapter with 55mm capacity?

I was sure that picture was there yesterday. Am I nuts?
Allright Gomez, I said I'd send the check you don't have to drive me closer to the nut house then I am.

I was sure that picture was there yesterday. Am I nuts?
Allright Gomez, I said I'd send the check you don't have to drive me closer to the nut house then I am.

Hahahaha....this one? I deleted it because I rushed all the photo's up there before I read your email. You sent this photo in a group of three and said this photo was no good.....so I removed it :doh:



http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=74788

That's it. I first didn't want to bother explaining it so I said forget it. Then you posted it so I explained it. Then noticed you removed it after reading my note. :rollingla

Still damn good comunication for two guys on other sides of the world.
Think how long this would take if we had to use regular mail.
Most of you guys can't fathom that can you? :scratchhe :dunno:

Most of you guys can't fathum that can you? :scratchhe :dunno:

No, bit too deep for me.

What is this "regular" mail that you speak of knuckle dragger? Does the post office even still exist?

A fathom is 6 feet.
Yes the post office still exists just to deliver our shifters. Other then that they would close.

If you look at the cut for the seal holder you get an idea of the shape and direction of flow.
The inlet is not cut yet but comes in at the left in the fat part of the part. It will be cut at 50 degrees from axial.

This is the non intercooled setup, right?

Good pics. Sorry I couldn't post them. I've been doin the Easter thing all weekend and I've only been checking one of my 2 gmail accts, not the one richard likes to email, lol.
I've updated him with the appropriate account, hehe.
Good to see this is still moving.

Richard,
Any news on engine management?

This is the non intercooled setup, right?



We don't think we need one on a street setup. We use efficiency instead.
Engine managment? Hopefully use a flash in production, we will use a stand alone for the prototype.

wow,

very very wow.

beers :beer:

Out of curiosity, what would be a theoretical horsepower gain that might be achieved with one of these on an 8? Not something set in stone, but I'm just wondering what the power difference would be when it's all said and done from say a twin-screw, or centrifugal compressor.

So in what step are we now??When will this sc kit comes out for orders??And i am also curious about the theoritical +whp???

When the results don't match the theory, get a new theory. ;)

When the results don't match the theory, get a new theory.
well said.

We don't think we need one on a street setup. We use efficiency instead.
Engine managment? Hopefully use a flash in production, we will use a stand alone for the prototype.:D:

Man, this looks very simple to maintain. All I need is a spare drive belt! On the suction side of the blower, are you going to pipe the inlet thru the front clip opening where the existing intake pulls air from?

richard - you're gonna shave some of that voloute for the production pieces right? looks a tad thick;)

I'd like to take about 3 lbs off of it. To get it right down there it will take a casting.

I don't know yet where that piping is going to wind up yet. We were just looking at that tonight.

Wow , a custom flash for the supercharger. Mm..knowing that all cars are not created equal. You would still need fine tuning to get it to optimised. About the standalone, will you be pushing that out too at a later date ? May be even a harness spacer so you don't have to chop up your original harness after you added on standalone .
Would love to hear how you wired in the motec to run with the OEM PCM :) may be you can pm me about it ..hehe.. :P

Would love to hear how you wired in the motec to run with the OEM PCM :) may be you can pm me about it ..hehe.. :P

I think the MoTeC comment belongs in the Hymee supercharger thread?? We take full control of fuelling and ignition (leading and trailing) with the MoTeC wiand leace the factory ECU running everything else. ABS, DSC, TC etc all functioning per normal. All with a "plug and play" harness = no splicing/cutting the factory loom.

Cheers,
Hymee.

so can I get your supercharger for use here in the states, say as an off road vehicle application?

You can take what my mate Hymee says to the bank.
The cars are very near equal contrary to popular opinion.
I have it on authority that random Rx8 engines put out 215-220 HP
on the engine dyno. That's damn close. Close enough so a common map
can work. The factory thinks so anyway. Or else they couldn't produce it.

Can you optimize the last 2% out of it? Maybe, but I doubt it. That 2% is more likely in the internals. And for a mass produced engine you can't expect any better.
50 years ago there was probably 10% delta, or more. For sure in the british engines. :mdrmed:

weird i thought i posted a remark about flashes working perfectly fine - your giving the car a new set of instructions and the pcm is able to adapt enough to take away nearly all the vriances from car to car like small differences in injectors etc. etc etc

apparently i didnt click "post reply" correctly. well if you search my posts on this subject you find more remarks about this.:)

Hey Zoom44, will this be the first 200 page thread?

i think so... unless i lock it now and make you start a new one :D: :D:

Oooh oooh 200 pages, ok here is a bump for that haha

I'll be 200 years old before Richard lets me play :)

Oooh oooh 200 pages, ok here is a bump for that haha


Ya think not? The news is that we are putting it in the car next week or the week after. Depends on when we get the CF parts in.

Thanks RP, we are all behind you - so break a leg, but just don't break the speed limit on highway 118.

Hey Zoom44, will this be the first 200 page thread?
It's longer than "Klegg's Blog". That is at 177 pages.

Ausse Lounge is at 220 pages. :Eyecrazy:

Its 75 pages for me :)

Hey Richard, I was just wondering, since you can make AF compressors, have you ever added a combustion chamber and an exhaust turbine and made a full, running, standalone jet engine? Sorry if it's been asked already but we're coming up on 200 pages and I have the attention span of a fruit fly.

Its 75 pages for me :)

Me too. I don't know why others persist with 15 posts/page when 40/page is just a click away.

I can tell you. Try it with dial up. This site takes long enough to load 20 post, imaging if you had to load 40 posts/page over dial up!!!!!!!

Gee I waited so long I got audited by the IRS.

There goes the 5 grand for the Super Charger.

Hey Richard, I was just wondering, since you can make AF compressors, have you ever added a combustion chamber and an exhaust turbine and made a full, running, standalone jet engine? Sorry if it's been asked already but we're coming up on 200 pages and I have the attention span of a fruit fly.


I often think about it but machining nickle alloy isn't something I like to do.
We machine these by flank cutting between the blade with a very small cutter. I don't think it could work in Hastalloy.
Then there's all the controls that get complicated.

I do know someone who does make a small model airplane jet engine though.
It's kinda neat for about 5G's.

200 ftw

I can tell you. Try it with dial up. This site takes long enough to load 20 post, imaging if you had to load 40 posts/page over dial up!!!!!!!

Oh......I had forgotten about that :sleep: :D:

The news is that we are putting it in the car next week or the week after. Depends on when we get the CF parts in.

Is that a light at the end of the tunnel I see? :smiley309

Is that merely a test fitting or is it the complete kit including an ECU solution? If its the later, you must include at least a sound clip or the whole forum will :spank: you. You get that thing running and tuned with dyno sheets and this thread will melt the server. :worship:

Start the countdown...12 more posts until 2000

Start the countdown...12 more posts until 2000
Thats a better way of looking at it...but its actually until 3000 :bootyshak

:doh: :uh:
Now down to :score:

I dindnt read all 2990 posts, but can anybody inform me as to the hp and torque projections of this supercharger?

When is it suppose to come out?

As with Hymee's supercharger there is no projected completion date. They are done when they are done and everything works properly. Until that point there are also no definitive power numbers. There are goals but even those are only just speculative around the 300 hp mark until actually proven. We'll all just have to wait and see.

Thank you.

How much boost is this SC putting out?

^^^^^Whatever Hymee says, that's what I say.

Lol!

^^^^^Whatever Hymee says, that's what I say.


Do I smell a Cartel! haha! call the regulators!
:Freak_ani

I think the MoTeC comment belongs in the Hymee supercharger thread?? We take full control of fuelling and ignition (leading and trailing) with the MoTeC wiand leace the factory ECU running everything else. ABS, DSC, TC etc all functioning per normal. All with a "plug and play" harness = no splicing/cutting the factory loom.

Cheers,
Hymee.


Oh yeah.... i am confusing the two :P Both long threads.

I just read nearly all the post, Thank God I didn't join this back in 2004. I am way to impatient, even if I am waiting on something perfect. Looks Like I am joining at the perfect time :ylsuper: You guys are some intelligent, patient and driven SOB's. I mean that with the utmost respect. I am posting this to make sure I follow it from here on out. Everyone please feel free to email some good sites to get my products from. I just bought my RX 8, so let the fun begin and the money flow. Take care all and thank you Hymee and MR. PAUL!

I just read nearly all the post, Thank God I didn't join this back in 2004. I am way to impatient, even if I am waiting on something perfect. Looks Like I am joining at the perfect time :ylsuper: You guys are some intelligent, patient and driven SOB's. I mean that with the utmost respect. I am posting this to make sure I follow it from here on out. Everyone please feel free to email some good sites to get my products from. I just bought my RX 8, so let the fun begin and the money flow. Take care all and thank you Hymee and MR. PAUL!



Here's a few to start with...

www.performancecenter.com
www.sportcompactonly.com
www.optionsauto.com
www.nopionline.com
www.srmotorsports.com
www.rx7.com
www.turbo-kits.com/rx-8_turbo_kits.html
www.horsepowerfreaks.com
www.hopupracing.com

The guys at performance center are very knowledgeable. Ask for Elson at ext. 268. He's helped me out a lot and will beat competitor's prices if you tell him where you got the price. Every time I have ordered from Sport Compact Only my merchandise has arrived early and in perfect condition.

I'm wondering if Richard is going to give away a super charger for the 3000th post, oh wait what do you know thats me. Well PM and i will give you my address so you can ship one out. Seriouly great work and I can't wait to see how this product performs. It has been a thrilling read all these years. I wish you 3000 more post but I think it would be better if the next 3000 were praises from all your customers about how good this supercharger is. Keep up the good work

Who is out there that wants to post the pictures of our new carbon fiber duct?
This baby's almost ready to go in the car.
Who makes that little mushroom aircleaner or some other short AC?

Hit me with it..... :)

Here they are.... :)


http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75635

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75636

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75637

Here they are.... :)


http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75635

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75636



very, very nice.

beers :beer:

Last pics......

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75638

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75639

You were too quick for me swooper..... :)

that ok leave them both. double my pleasure looking at them..:)

Nice idea on the C/F ducting. :)

Cheers,
Hymee.

You were too quick for me swooper..... :)

sorry,

better than left behind.

beers :beer:

Nice idea on the C/F ducting. :)

Cheers,
Hymee.


If Hymee has one, then I'm going to have two.

Who makes that little mushroom aircleaner or some other short AC?

My "old" prototype v1 pics showed a K&N pod filter. Prototype v2 used a std air box with minor mods for ducting.

Cheers,
Hymee.

My "old" prototype v1 pics showed a K&N pod filter. Prototype v2 used a std air box with minor mods for ducting.

Cheers,
Hymee.


Finally found the picture of that and it might work. Have you the part number? Oh ya is it 3.75 inlet dia? Can I get one that size.
I know look for their website.

Have you the part number?

Sure, I'll get you the part number. Just wait until I have my S/C running on the dyno ;) You ideapinchingoldbastard!!!

Cheers,
Hymee.

Sure, I'll get you the part number. Just wait until I have my S/C running on the dyno ;) You ideapinchingoldbastard!!!

Cheers,
Hymee.

Well thanks, you doesnotplaywellwithothersbastard :spank:

C/F Looks sexy... :drool:

C/F Looks sexy... :drool:

Mine is sexier than his. And I did mine first... :ylsuper:

LOL.

Cheers,
Hymee.

ok,

here we go, my cf is / bigger, better, shinner, stronger , longer, stiffer, has feelings, likes to cuddle...

get back to work.. and yes hymee the rum offer still stands..

beers :beer:

ok,

here we go, my cf is / bigger, better, shinner, stronger , longer, stiffer, has feelings, likes to cuddle...

get back to work.. and yes hymee the rum offer still stands..

beers :beer:



Now that takes the cake. I didn't get any rum offer, I only got a beer offer.
That means Hymee wins this round, but not the war.

And Hymee, Mines bigger around.

Now that takes the cake. I didn't get any rum offer, I only got a beer offer.
That means Hymee wins this round, but not the war.

And Hymee, Mines bigger around.

did not know you were into rum...

so now it is a girth issue??

beers :beer:

Cognac, Remy is good.

I hate to ask this (But I also hate to read 200+ pages worth of material):


Nothing for the 4 port?

Get someone to fabricate an upper intake manifold for you and it will work. You will also have to have it tuned. Everything else should fit.

That SC sure is pretty.

Looks really good, Richard.

The more I look at the pics, the easier I think it looks like this would be to install. Is there still going to be a tap into the oil system for the SC?

RP how did you do your CF work?

Plug/Vacuum bag process

OR

Did you go to another company to accomplish the CF tube and interface?
If you did go to an outside company who did you go with I would like to contact them for some other projects I am working on.

looks great Richard--while you are at it go ahead and relocated the coils and find some aftermarket coils that will stand up to the demand. Might as well do it "the package" right to begin with.
Slowly but sure.
olddragger

The SC looks pretty funny... I looks really big, but I guess it's because the pics are so zoomed in.

I wonder how strong the coils are? Is it an HEI system? How hard would it be to make aftermarket coils?

Just curious, that's all.


Someday, when I have my RX-8, I will probably get this package. I know it was mentioned in here somewhere, but I can't remember where, so I will ask again. Is the boost going to be more like a screw, or will it be a bit more like a centrifugal? Just curious... Thanks!

It's actually quite small. It's not much larger than the alternator. It's just slightly longer. A few of us got to play with one out at Sevenstock last year. It's pretty light too. If you could see it next to any other types of supercahrgers out there, you'd realize how really small it actually is.

The coils should be fine for the power levels this kit is going to produce.

The boost curve is theoretically linear with rpm but Richard has gone in and changed the efficiency at certain areas to change that a little bit. It would probably be best described as having a boost profile that is between a positive displacement and a centrifugal. With a higher efficiency, it should make more power at any level of boost though. Hopefully we'll find out in the near future.

Richard, looks great. If you need any beta testers sign me up. :D

That is very purdy!

i know im supposed to be looking at the CF( which is very nice , of course) but i cant help noticing the machining done to the top of the intake volute:) ver nice Richard.

i know im supposed to be looking at the CF( which is very nice , of course) but i cant help noticing the machining done to the top of the intake volute:) ver nice Richard.haha I was checking that out too

agree with everyone else, it looks great so far

We did the CF work in concert with a friend of ours. We made the mold and he laid up the CF. He used an innertube to set the fiber sheet. From a bike actually.
We have a plate that fits over the flange area and put the tube in from the other end. :cool:

The oil system is tapped into the engine by a oil filter adapter, then drains to the pan. It's not hard to do on this car. The pan is ez to drop and weld or braze in a fitting. A plate will be in the kit to put under the oil filter. From a fitting on the plate you run a hose to the blower.

The machined part of the front volute is for me to keep all the parts and jets in when I'm changing carb tuning. :mdrmed:

We did the CF work in concert with a friend of ours. We made the mold and he laid up the CF. He used an innertube to set the fiber sheet. From a bike actually.
We have a plate that fits over the flange area and put the tube in from the other end. :cool:

The oil system is tapped into the engine by a oil filter adapter, then drains to the pan. It's not hard to do on this car. The pan is ez to drop and weld or braze in a fitting. A plate will be in the kit to put under the oil filter. From a fitting on the plate you run a hose to the blower.

The machined part of the front volute is for me to keep all the parts and jets in when I'm changing carb tuning. :mdrmed:

why not just go into the oil pan through the drain plug? You gotta clear the line ayways on a oil change, save a lot of trouble cutting holes in things...

why not just go into the oil pan through the drain plug? You gotta clear the line ayways on a oil change, save a lot of trouble cutting holes in things...



Because I want to enter above the oil level. It may work the other way but it isn't really right. The line will not drain as fast at high speeds. Water seeks it's own level but it takes time and oil takes a little longer. :scratchhe

Idealy we will cast a new pan with a lower oil level and added capacity. Some fins on the bottom just for kicks and some extra cooling. Throw in some baffling around the pickup and you have good addition for even the NA cars. If you drive hard in the canyons consider yourself lucky when the level is even slightly low.

Just 'cause you don't see the oil pressure gauge drop in the curves doesn't mean it isn't. Why not? 'Cause you don't have an oil pressure gauge. Have you ever seen it read high when cold? Have you ever seen it move? That's because it doesn't, it always stays the same. It's not even hooked to a pressure sender. Have you ever had a car where the oil pressure was the same at idle? It starts out low then builds as RPM go up, right?

Fear not you always have the warning light. That probably comes on when your down to 10psi.

Don't blame the messenger, blame Mazda.

Thanks RP, I'm well aware the oil pressure gauge is an idiot gauge...

Now get back to work! I need me some supercharger luvin :)

Thanks for the info RP so it was a plug and vacuum bag process very nice job.


Can you send me your "friend" contact info My current supplier of CF is out of stock and does not truly know when he will get more in.

I hate to ask this (But I also hate to read 200+ pages worth of material):


Nothing for the 4 port?


Not likely as of 50 pages or so ago. I wouldn't count on it, unfortunately. Oh well...[plug for Hymee here]

Because I want to enter below the oil level. It may work the other way but it isn't really right. The line will not drain as fast at high speeds.
Why is that? With a turbo you want the oil to drain above the level of the oil in the pan as it will back up into the turbo and eventually kill the turbo's oil seals. How is your seal different?

How's far is the project from completion? and what additional upgrades will be necessary for the engine to be able to handle it?

Why is that? With a turbo you want the oil to drain above the level of the oil in the pan as it will back up into the turbo and eventually kill the turbo's oil seals. How is your seal different?



Did I write that or did you go in there and change it??
I must be getting feable minded. I think the rest of what I said makes it clear that it is the same as a turbo. I don't think it was up there long enough for anyone to have built anything that way. :ban:

I'll go back and change it. Thanks for pointing it out, that means your paying attention. And I'm not proof reading what I write.


We are starting the install on my car in a couple of days from now.

Why does it have to drain? Won't it be under pressure anyways? Sorry for my ignorance - LOL!

I don't need to worry about that, as the blower has it's own gear box and oil reserviour.

Cheers,
Hymee.

You don't want to have oil pressure in the gear case just to force out oil. This overloads the seals and doesn't drain the heat away. Plus it foams the oil. The only oil you want in there is the spray from the nozzle aimed at the gearset. It lubes the gears and takes away the heat.

A luxury that you don't have. :bootyshak

OK - I get it now. I was thinking too much in terms of the turbo's bearings. :doh:

At least I won't be adding any heat to the engine oil!

Cheers,
Hymee.

well our 2 oil coolers can handle the extra little bit of heat much better than your standard single cooler;)

I think the gear set will might get even hotter than normal from all that hot oil from the engine! LOL :D

Cheers,
Hymee.

ah cool... competition now...the regulators threat must have worked!

;)

How's far is the project from completion? and what additional upgrades will be necessary for the engine to be able to handle it?



:pat: go with the flow bro, nothing happens befor it's time..you asked for it, :flamed:

:pat: go with the flow bro, nothing happens befor it's time..you asked for it, :flamed:

While I might flame someone for asking this question on a thread that dosen't have over 200 pages. I can respect someone asking because frankly, it's impossible to read through the size of this thread. My only hope is that when it's released a new thread will be started. heh

While I might flame someone for asking this question on a thread that dosen't have over 200 pages. I can respect someone asking because frankly, it's impossible to read through the size of this thread. My only hope is that when it's released a new thread will be started. heh


So true.. but in this case and stage the fun is getting there not being there....BTW .R.P. I am takign my car in to mazda tomarow to get a couple things fixed, should I leave it there for the install of the SC.. or have them tow it to your shop :p:

Hey Richard, I had thought about this earlier but I don't recall if I asked it or not.

It just popped into my head again.

Is the current design about as small as you can get it? Or would you be able to create a version that consists of 2 AFSC that are smaller in diameter that are next to eachother?

Maybe with like 3 blade layers on each SC instead of 5 on one larger one?

The problem with that is that first off all it would be more expensive for him to machine. Since he makes the parts out of solid aluminum blocks, it would take more of them to make the required parts. It also isn't as simple as dividing them into 2 units and then cutting the stages down. Each stage gives a certain compression of the air. He needs those stages to get the desired pressure. Having 2 blowers wouldn't increase the pressure but it would increase the flow capacity. He's still need 4 stage blowers, just 2 smaller ones. From a money and complexity standpoint, 2 just isn't practical. You will also have more than twice the rotating mass even with 2 smaller units so that would be more load on the engine. One unit seems like the best option. It's already pretty small for a supercharger but even mounting 2 smaller units would be pretty hard to do.

I kept on thinking how much should I spend on the upgrades for this year, and after like X nights of lack of sleep. I decided that I will go extreme this time and spend up to 1/2 the price of what I paid for this car ! (Its extreme for me, and Im sure my GF would be piss, but ahh)

So .... WHEN YOU GONNA RELEASE IT ! (Or Hymee, if hes reading it)

okay, so it only took me about 2 years of this thread for me to finally post...

Haven't read all 200+ pages (just the last 3) but keep up the great work R.P.

The problem with that is that first off all it would be more expensive for him to machine. Since he makes the parts out of solid aluminum blocks, it would take more of them to make the required parts. It also isn't as simple as dividing them into 2 units and then cutting the stages down. Each stage gives a certain compression of the air. He needs those stages to get the desired pressure. Having 2 blowers wouldn't increase the pressure but it would increase the flow capacity. He's still need 4 stage blowers, just 2 smaller ones. From a money and complexity standpoint, 2 just isn't practical. You will also have more than twice the rotating mass even with 2 smaller units so that would be more load on the engine. One unit seems like the best option. It's already pretty small for a supercharger but even mounting 2 smaller units would be pretty hard to do.

Yeah I figured it would cost more. I thought about the parasitic draw on the engine and I imagined 2 possibilities. A gear that spins them both that is attached to the belt at 1 point, or a serpentine belt between the 2. I was just thinking of space savings.

Although having seen it in person and holding it, it is pretty small already.

What really got me thinking about it was hearing that VW (I think) developed a Quad turbo design for a 4 banger engine. 4 small turbos, 1 for each cylinder. They said it cut down on waisted heat and turbo lag since they weren't as big to spool up and they were providing just enough cfm and pressure for each cylinder.

Was just a thought :)

Unfortunately I have a lot of them. Damn process wont stop. Even tried a Kill -9 on it. ;)

A fellow linux man!!! Try using a kill -HUP... you dont want any orphaned thoughts.

We just went from 0 to dork in 2.8 seconds.


COULD you IMAGINE trying to sync 4 small turbos? I hear it's a beotch to sync 2.

My bad. It wasn't VW. It was Owen Developments (But on the same site I came across a quad turbo vw, but it wasn't the one I was thinking of)

Here is the link, sometimes gizmag is a little finicky I hope the link works.

http://www.gizmag.com/go/5227/

Looking good man.

Richard how difficult or expensive would it be to get a new upper intake manifold made out of cast aluminum?

Richard how difficult or expensive would it be to get a new upper intake manifold made out of cast aluminum?


That's what we are going to do. I'll tell you how much when it's done. :wink2:
Now when are you going to answer my queston about the plug ass'y I need for the Motec? :scratchhe I Emailed, I PM'd, you just to busy posting?? :icon5:

Rotary Performance sells what you are looking for. It's $200 though. That's the best option. Ours was cheaper but I spent 8 hours redoing it and it still isnt a nice as that one.

http://www.rx7.com/store/rx8/rx8harnessadaptor.html

http://www.rx7.com/store/rx8/rx8ecu.html

You will still need to splice in a loom that connects to the MoTeC.

Cheers,
Hymee.

You will still need to splice in a loom that connects to the MoTeC.

Cheers,
Hymee.


Yes, or whatever else use. Haven't crossed that bridge yet.

The update is that the manifold is on and the blower bracket. The pan is changed and we are about to put in the compressor. Have one part missing and that is a reducing hose for the MAF to TB. Made a mold for it but the molders press was down. Have to wait till Monday for thst now.

I'll take some pictures later and get them off to someone to post. Hope Gomez is around. He's the most often one found.

I can do the pics for you if Gomez is at church or something. Blower might look a little different though. Hahaha. Just kidding.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Blower might look a little different though.

But at least it will look like the MoTeC is all hooked up and running. LOL!

If anyone is home in Oz then you've got pictures.
Not getting done tonight, tomorrow it will be.
Had to fight getting fitting and hoses and other stuff or it would have been done.

If anyone is home in Oz then you've got pictures.
Not getting done tonight, tomorrow it will be.
Had to fight getting fitting and hoses and other stuff or it would have been done.

richard,
i can take them shrink them and put them up. they just wont be as big as if gomez did them... pm for my email address if you want.

beers :beer:

I got them, and will post now... Standby Chatsworth, standby world.

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=76013&stc=1

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=76014&stc=1

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=76015&stc=1

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=76016&stc=1

BTW - Love the tool / parts caddy :)

Nice Engineering RP. real nice.

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=76013&stc=1

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=76014&stc=1

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=76015&stc=1

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=76016&stc=1

BTW - Love the tool / parts caddy :)

nice job hymee,

i love the fact that you host a fellow competetors photo... this is as it should be....

rp, could you aim the intake inlet so it hits somewhere around the revi exit?????

i know it is not going to happen, but all you can do is say no!!!!

beers :beer:

Lookin' good :rock:


What I want to know is............

.........when RP is going to host and post the latest update of Hymee's twin screw ;) :hahano:

Hyme does WHAT with twins??? ;) Those pictures may be worth $$ on the Internet!!!

Richard why such a large pulley? Are you spinning it at the same speed as the engine for no boost until you get an ecu installed?

Since when is spinnning it at the same speed as the engine going to give you no boost?? :D:.........I could see not spinning= no boost...but if it's spinning at 7K it sure is going to do something isn't it ;)

yummy pictures... more.......more.....MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm assuming that braided line is the oil feed? If so, why is it making going all the way to the side of the engine compartment before bending back to the oil filter?

You are forgetting the 4:1 internal planetary set. As it sits right now we are using a larger pulley than the max will be but it is still 460% overdrive now.

The oil feed line is going where it does because that is the size hose we had.
I'll shorten it later. I just wanted to drive the car.

Which I did just awhile ago. I can't lean on it yet 'cause we have no managment.
I just want to put some miles on it to see if there are any problems. Plus we havn't finaized the air cleaner yet.

As soon as I can get the pictures out of my camera I'll post them. These are the ready to drive ones.

A lot of these things have to be cleaned up into production parts yet.
Also we wanted to keep all the original hoses intact so we can go to CARB with a "before" car.

so you have driven it... very exciting to hear... thanks for the update.

beers :beer:

Holy Belt Busters Batman!! A RP SuperCharged RX-8 has been on the road!!!!!!!!!!! There IS a God!!

Since when is spinnning it at the same speed as the engine going to give you no boost?? :D:.........I could see not spinning= no boost...but if it's spinning at 7K it sure is going to do something isn't it ;)
Yeah I should have quantified that better by asking if it was large to hold boost down rather than stating no boost.

What can you tell us about the power curve characteristics of the AF supercharger? Does it stay mostly linear like a stock 8?

looks good richard, keep it up. I've got the management, I just need to buy the FI now :D:

:Drooling_

Pictures just in from Richard...

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=76210&stc=1

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=76212&stc=1

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=76214&stc=1

Well done RAP.

Cheers,
Hymee.

:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:
:smiley309

Where is the strut brace? :stickpoke

At least we kept that on mine :)

Yeah - I know the reasons. Just joshin ya, mate.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Where is the strut brace? :stickpoke

At least we kept that on mine :)

Yeah - I know the reasons. Just joshin ya, mate.

Cheers,
Hymee.


You're the first one to notice. We are building a new one now.

Nice job on the pics. Next time you come by you should show me how, then you will not have to do anymore. Of course we can always get Gomez to do it. After all he gets that fat check every month.

Hot stuff RP...I doffs me lid to ye :worship:

Cheers Richard - what a long strange trip this has been :chefico:

richard,
i really like where the intake is headed!!!!!!!

keep up the good work.

beers :beer:

You're the first one to notice. We are building a new one now.

Nice job on the pics. Next time you come by you should show me how, then you will not have to do anymore. Of course we can always get Gomez to do it. After all he gets that fat check every month.Nice work man!
Excellent use of carbon fiber too!
I think i'll make an animated tutorial for you on how to post pics so nobody has to wait anymore :b

I can't wait to see what you guys do for the strut brace too. It's too bad the stock one didn't fit.

Man, we're finally getting to the really exciting part! Woohoo!

(Not that the previous ~3000 posts haven't been exciting and interesting in their own way ;) )

Does that mean your considering going for 50 state legal!! If you get the CARB sticker you can have one of my Kidneys.

You are forgetting the 4:1 internal planetary set. As it sits right now we are using a larger pulley than the max will be but it is still 460% overdrive now.

The oil feed line is going where it does because that is the size hose we had.
I'll shorten it later. I just wanted to drive the car.

Which I did just awhile ago. I can't lean on it yet 'cause we have no managment.
I just want to put some miles on it to see if there are any problems. Plus we havn't finaized the air cleaner yet.

As soon as I can get the pictures out of my camera I'll post them. These are the ready to drive ones.

A lot of these things have to be cleaned up into production parts yet.
Also we wanted to keep all the original hoses intact so we can go to CARB with a "before" car.

OK I am ready to buy. Hey RP I am at the LAX Renaissance for the night. I don't know how close you are. but if you are in the area, drop by. We are going to Houston's for dinner if you would like to join us.

John

Wow, this project is really coming along. Can't wait to see what it will do!

OK I am ready to buy. Hey RP I am at the LAX Renaissance for the night. I don't know how close you are. but if you are in the area, drop by. We are going to Houston's for dinner if you would like to join us.

John


Thanks for the invite but I'm not that close. Besides I just filled it up with $6.00 a gal fuel. Doesn't sound that high anymore does it?

I filled it with 101 race gas so I can drive around. I'm holding it down to 2-3 psi and have no problems. I can tell you there are no driveability problems. It idles perfectly and has no ill effects on any normal driving.

You cannot hear it unless you open the throttle and then it is only a slight whine.
If you know its there and listen for it you can hear it standing next to it. I drove it down between two block buildings just to check and it is there but hardly. Only if you know what to listen for, otherwise you might think it was an alt going out.

BTW it took about 12 hours to do the first install. I think when production parts are available it will take a first timer 8 hrs. After a shop has done it once it'll be down to under 6 hrs.

wow,
the hits just keep on coming today... happy may day!!! we should make this the afs ran day....

i would take a day off of work for that..

beers :beer:

Damn RP... that looks hot!! Congrats on the first test install. Can't wait to see when you've gone the management going and can "let 'er rip". :rock:

You're the first one to notice. We are building a new one now.

Nice job on the pics. Next time you come by you should show me how, then you will not have to do anymore. Of course we can always get Gomez to do it. After all he gets that fat check every month.

I guess you could say I am quite well versed in the intracicies of s/c install details for the RX-8 :ylsuper:

Pics are easy. I think it is your turn next to come visit me. Just remember, you can always hit Alan Jones up for some accomdation again.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Well done MATE...... :) .

Seriously, congratulations on the first test drive.... :beerchug: :beerchug:

I guess you could say I am quite well versed in the intracicies of s/c install details for the RX-8 :ylsuper:

Pics are easy. I think it is your turn next to come visit me. Just remember, you can always hit Alan Jones up for some accomdation again.

Cheers,
Hymee.

alan jones,

did he not drive the beat rice car in f1???? to funny.

beers :beer:

Sorry - I am name dropping on Richards behalf. It was a Williams IIRC when Alan won the F1 championship way back when. But it is the same person we speak of.

name dropping alan jones in the usa is like dropping marco ambrose in aus who is driving in the nascar trucks now...

if i recall it was alan jones, ford, mario put it together and beatrice was the sponsor... great stuff. did nothing, but they tried....

and in his day alan was the man... btw some of us wankers here follow f1, why i dont know, guess it is habit... but the aus touring cars are the shit...

the whole balacava stuff last year was fkng funny..

beers :beer:

Thanks for the invite but I'm not that close. Besides I just filled it up with $6.00 a gal fuel. Doesn't sound that high anymore does it?


Signature FS in LAS wants $6.23 for Jet A. Think about putting 5000 gallons to cross the pond at that price. That would buy me a new RX-8 with every topoff. BTW, we get it for $3.00 less at home. I am glad I don't have to pay that gas bill

John

I can't wait to see the power results once once you get engine management in.

Do you think that underdrive pulleys would do more with the AFSC than they did on just a NA car?

Do you think that underdrive pulleys would do more with the AFSC than they did on just a NA car?

hello mcfly?????????????

quick answer, NO.

beers :beer:

Congrats, Richard. It looks great!

The carbon fiber looks like snakeskin, as if you injested an anaconda and it got stuck in the intake. I guess if jet engines can injest birds, your AFS can injest snakes. :)

With 2-3 psi, is the power increase noticable? And how high of RPMs have you tested?

P.S. Some of us Yanks know who Alan Jones is. I saw him win the Long Beach GP in the Saudia-Williams car (1980 or 81). Nothing like the sound of an F1 engine echoing between the building of Long Beach. Nothing, except maybe the sound of and AF supercharged Renesis, that is. :)

Congrats RP,

Really nice setup you have there. I love it. :naughty:

One silly question though.
The silicone rubber at the outlet is there on purpose to see it bubble when pressure rises, or do you plan to later replace it with a CF tubing too (which I'd love the most ;)) ?

T.

If it is a hi quality 90deg silicone elbow it should be good up to about 120+psi Gauge before it starts to yield (flex out)

That's not the final intake manifold design anyways. That's just there to get the car running.

Hey Richard great work so far! 1 question, if you are still going with an ECU flash for management will you be devloping a different flash for people at high altitude?

I currently live at over 6,000 feet and I wanted to know if your flash could handle the lack of air up here. I would be more than happy to be a test mule for you (hint, hint) :stickpoke :fingersx:

^^^
Does your RX-8, or any other for that matter, have a flash for higher elevations that is separate from the rest of us?

A new flash to your PCM would allow your car to adjust to the specific parameters it needs to run properly. That's why the RX-8's all run off of one flash and each vehicle isn't individually tuned from the factory.

^^^
Does your RX-8, or any other for that matter, have a flash for higher elevations that is separate from the rest of us?

A new flash to your PCM would allow your car to adjust to the specific parameters it needs to run properly. That's why the RX-8's all run off of one flash and each vehicle isn't individually tuned from the factory.

Don't you need different maps for the same greddy equipped Rx-8 if you travel between altitudes? If I had the greddy turbo I couldn't run the same map here and than take my car to sea level, right?

I have worked on a few Audis that had upgraded from ko3 to ko4 turbos with the upgraded fueling kits and we were having boost and fueling problems and had to get the chip redone to accomodate the elevation.

Thanks for your help!

The RX-8 has a BARO sensor, so that should help the altitude encumbered amongst us to a certain extent. And the MAF measures the mass air flow - regardless.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Hymee,

thanks for the info, don't you sleep? Isn't it 2:30 am there? :)

EDIT: Richard, either way my offer stands if you need a test mule for testing your supercharger at higher elevation.

Keep up the good work!! :ylsuper:

Hymee,

thanks for the info, don't you sleep? Isn't it 2:30 am there? :)

EDIT: Richard, either way my offer stands if you need a test mule for testing your supercharger at higher elevation.

Keep up the good work!! :ylsuper:

And I'll be moving to his city soon. I want a free one too!

I'm still wondering, does this work like the pettit supercharger and dramatically limit the powerband to lower revs? I like the high-rev nature of the 8 and I'm hoping your kit retains it.

I'm still wondering, does this work like the pettit supercharger and dramatically limit the powerband to lower revs?

Please point me to where that information was posted...

And no, it shouldn't.

Cheers,
Hymee.

The RX-8 has a BARO sensor, so that should help the altitude encumbered amongst us to a certain extent. And the MAF measures the mass air flow - regardless.
Just curious. Do you know why it does have an additional pressure sensor? As you said the MAF measures mass air flow. So, pressure info is as far as measurement of air flow goes is redundant. So there obviously must be another reason or is it simply to check the MAF data or what is it?

And nice work Richard.
Question: Why does the compressor need to be connected to the engine oil circuit? Is it not possible to run the planetery gear of the compressor without a pump, reservoir and cooler similar to an oil filled differential? (I apologize if this question has already been raised and answered before).

RP, you look to be using 5W-20 dino oil. What about synthetics? We use a grade 46 turbine in our pumps here. Mainly for ball bearings and spherical rollers.

I'm glad Freddy Krueger could give you a "hand" with the intake manifold.
That guy just refuses to die :)

Awsome to see it coming together!
/twospoons

Please point me to where that information was posted...

And no, it shouldn't.

Cheers,
Hymee.

Pettit Supercharger:
HP: Currently making 230hp w/o an intercooler. Once they add the IC, they should be around 240hp.
When is it available: Early next year
Boost: ?
How long has it been running: ~8K miles
Engine Management: ?
Price: Around $4k
Comments: HP peaks early, good because you don’t have to rev to 9k to get power, but I kind of like reving, and there won’t be much point to reving above 6k. This is a very reputable company and really seem to know what they are doing. They have actually torn down a Renesis motor to check for wear caused by the SC. They seem to have great customer service and are really concerned with making this a reliable product.

Man I'm gone for the day and this thread fills up with questions.

Power band should just rise in a way following the rotarys normal path except it gets more poewer built up as it revs.
I can for sure feel the added power as I let build boost. It is nice under freeway cruise to add throttle and feel the extra torque.
It has synthetic oil in it now.
The outlet 90 has 5 layers of poliester weave.
We could have a oil res built in but this takes away the heat better.
Roots (ki) did your ancestors (Roots Bros) desighn the original PD blower?
Alt will be self compensating. It is better then a turbo in that the temp doesnt effect the boost. In a turbo it has to work harder with less heat and density so may get into an inefficiant area of operation.

those pictures make me horny :Eyecrazy:

RP, still driving around with no management?

couldnt let the pics fall too far back

Fucking Awesome Richard!! :D:

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=76212&stc=1

Yeah, that's my favorite one also. I really liked the Yellow - makes everything aluminum and CF really stand out and get noticed.

Zoom can you keep bumping this pic up every other thread.. good inspiration there...

would this supercharger work with after market intakes? I have the umnitza intake right now, and I think it would look sick beacuse it's carbonfiber so it would go good with the carbon pieces on the supercharger.

Could you shorten the carbon fibre intake plenum...and get it close to the stock position so we could use a modified Revi intake??

Sorry Dannobre, I've got it as short as I can. We have a mold made for a new part to replace the accordian rubber stock coupler. This will let us put a better aircleaner on. It still will not be short enough to use the stock box. The current thought is to build a box around an aircleaner but it has to be shorter then stock.

Without the acoustic effect of the box there will be more noise then we want.
We want it to sound stock. I know it looks like it is aimed there but it will not work out.

Yes I have been driving it around putting miles on it.
The other news is that we are going with the Intercepter X at least on this car. Scott will be coming out here in three weeks and will work with us to tune his unit and develop maps for the AFSC. We will dyno it at that time and change pulleys after we get some experiance.

The thrills never stop coming from now on. :Eyecrazy:

AFS + Int X = :Drooling_

I hope I get a chance to see that while I'm out there.

If someone picks me up at the airport and can put me up for a night, I'll try to get out there for that. Flying only costs me $25 roundtrip.

If someone picks me up at the airport and can put me up for a night, I'll try to get out there for that. Flying only costs me $25 roundtrip.fred you dirty FI slut!

oh.. wait.. i'd do the same if I wasn't supposed to be in OK in 3 weeks for that BBQ :b

Hehe.. no matter what you guys do, take pics!

And video document all of it!

I need a new pair of pants :cwm27:

looking very nice Richard

Someone lend RG a room!!!

Someone share his bed with RG!
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I need a new pair of pants :cwm27:

Why? Did you mess yourself, or was it just your forward blow-off valve functioning?

Hehehe.

Maybe I'm jealous cause no-one shot their load when I posted pics of the MoTeC on the '8. :wiggle: :rollingla

Cheers,
Hymee.

was it just your forward blow-off valve functioning?


Hymee.


The man sure has a way with words!!!

Someone share his bed with RG!
You guys are funny. Richard is the expert with his unit. Scott is the expert with the ecu and tuning it. I would be nothing more than a very interested spectator with a camera.

im expert with my unit too.....

8)

Hey Richard, when the mechanical side of this little project is done, you'll need to spend ten minutes on the lathe to carve out a rotary style pulley for the jigger........ :)


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Hey Richard, when the mechanical side of this little project is done, you'll need to spend ten minutes on the lathe to carve out a rotary style pulley for the jigger........ :)


The rotor could be offset to make it look like it was spinning with the engine's rotors.

I reckon you should just apply a sticker to the side of the blower...

Danger: Beware of Jet Wash

Cheers,
Hymee.

What's a "jigger"??

Why a sticker, I could just carve it in.

Very nice.

Heh I'm amazed to see that someone else in California is actually up at this time.

Hell I'm amazed that I'm up at this time.

How about an option to have the intake come out of the top of the Unit so we can make a hood scoop like the white supercharged mazdaspeed 8? http://208.219.69.31/dsc01567.jpg