View Full Version : Acceleration... Just something to entertain...


Stu
04-29-2004, 10:45 PM
Was reading through this & thought it interesting if nothing else. It really isnt applicable to anything, just makes for a good few minutes of reading...





One Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows of stock cars at the Daytona 500.

Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1.5 gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.

A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger.

With 3,000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.

Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.

At the stoichiometric (stoichiometry: methodology and technology by which quantities of reactants and products in chemical reactions are determined) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitro methane, the flame front temperature measures 7,050 deg F.

Nitro methane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass.

After halfway, the engine is dieseling from compression, plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1,400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.

If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.

In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph (well before half-track), the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.

Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.

Top Fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light! Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.

The redline is actually quite high at 9,500 rpm.

Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimated $1,000.00 per second.

The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter mile (10/05/03, Tony Schumacher). The top speed record is 333.00 mph. (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66' of the run (09/28/03 Doug Kalitta).

Putting all of this into perspective:
You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter "twin- turbo" powered Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment. The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds, the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him. Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught you, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1,320 foot long race course.

And that, folks, is ACCELERATION!

newtlicious
04-29-2004, 10:58 PM
Nice post STU, I love facts like that. And all this time I thought those "train A leaves New York @ 20 miles per hour, train B leaves Chicago @ 50 miles per hour, where do they meet" questions in High school were all but useless.

Just messin with ya :cool:
Here's a fun fact: The disadvantage of all the downforce produced by F1 cars is DRAG, lots of it. Most F1 cars produce so much drag at speed that merely chopping the throttle produces over 1G of decelleration, or -1 G of accelleration for you physics majors. That's more than a Corvette Z06 throwing out the anchor!

Reeko
04-30-2004, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by Stu
Putting all of this into perspective:
You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter "twin- turbo" powered Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment. The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds, the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him. Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught you, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1,320 foot long race course.

And that, folks, is ACCELERATION!

Nice post, but BS on the last statement.

At 200 MPH, the vette would do a 1/4 mile in .45 secs.

Doctorr
04-30-2004, 11:33 AM
I am no math wiz, but for a .45 second quarter, you would have to be doing over 2000 mph, I think you screwed p on your decimal.

Think about it, .45 sec quarter = 1.8 sec mile = 33miles/minute = 2000 miles/hour!

Step away from the calculator and no one gets hurt!

The acceleration figures and example are RIGHT!
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Speed-ER doc
04-30-2004, 11:40 AM
200 miles/hour * hour/60 min = 3.33 miles/min

3.33 miles/min * min/60 sec = .0555 miles/sec

.25 mile /.0555miles/sec = 4.5 second per 1/4 mile


DOUBLE DOC MATH ATTACK!

Winning_BlueRX8
04-30-2004, 11:48 AM
poor reeko

Reeko
04-30-2004, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Doctorr
I am no math wiz, but for a .45 second quarter, you would have to be doing over 2000 mph, I think you screwed p on your decimal.

Think about it, .45 sec quarter = 1.8 sec mile = 33miles/minute = 2000 miles/hour!

Step away from the calculator and no one gets hurt!

The acceleration figures and example are RIGHT!
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Yes you are right.
I screwed up when I was converting hours to secs, I used 360 instead of 3600 (60*60).

Doh.
Actually I should have used the calc for that part.

Only excuse is I haven't had my coffee yet :)

Speed-ER doc
04-30-2004, 11:53 AM
btw, rotarygod posted this exact same thing a couple of weeks ago. :)

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25320&highlight=Lingenfelter

Stu
04-30-2004, 02:00 PM
Doh, didnt see it the previous time. My appologies for the double post.

The math figures may well be incorrect, it was emailed to me from a friend, and I didn't bother to go through & make sure it was factual, just posted it as an interesting bit of entertainment for all.

Nubo
05-01-2004, 01:15 AM
my favorite bit is the exhaust ripping atmospheric water vapor apart and then burning the hydrogen! That is bad-ass.