Well, I got home last night to see some jack-ass parked as shown in the attached picture. With a gut feeling, and knowing that this moron consistently parks like crap, I figured I better take some pictures and get his plate number. Figures I wake up this morning and my gut feeling has to be correct, the piece of crap hit me.

Now I would have moved the car but, as you can see, I couldn't get in my door nor could I tell if any damage was done yet and I didn't want to potentially move the car from the scene just in case. Besides, he was so close that moving my car may have meant I could have hit him...and I didn't want that! So I took pictures and it turned out I need them :-(.

The dick head scuffed and turned in my driver's mirror, his big ass tires left rubber marks on the bottom of the door, has front end scraped the door, and something dented the rear suicide door.

IF YOU CAN'T DRIVE OR PARK IT, DON'T BUY IT ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHOLE!!!!!!!!!

Anyway, I guess I posted this to cry...but also to find out who else has had similar experiences and how much, and how good the repairs were, also who did them (Mazda or independant).

Hopefully the police can use his tag and catch him with blue paint on his truck...then he gets slammed for leaving the scene and non-reporting. However, his plates start with "LE" which I'm guessing means law enforcement...so I don't expect much; we'll see. Hopefully my insurance don't go up if they have to cover this shit, and I don't really want to pay a deductable because of this asshole!

ARGH!!!!!!!! Here's a picture of his superb parking skills...I'll leave you with this because I'm too pissed off to type anymore.

my condolences...I wouldve called the cops immediately upon seeing the damage and the offending truck sitting next to it, then have the cops waiting with your when the Truck n00b comes out.

Originally posted by x3dfxWolfeman
my condolences...I wouldve called the cops immediately upon seeing the damage and the offending truck sitting next to it, then have the cops waiting with your when the Truck n00b comes out.
Couldn't see any damage last night so until this morning I didn't know if any damage was done. However from looking at the pictures I took, he didn't hit me until he left...so even if I called the cops last night the only thing they would have said was "move your car" which I guess I could have done then...but hindsight is always 20-20. :-(.

YOu probably should have gone with your instinct and moved the car...

I have had several incidents where someone has parked too close for me to get in, in those cases I go in the passenger door, put the car in neutral and push it out of the spot until I can get in the drivers side.

Sorry to hear your story - I hope you can track the idiot owner down and get something sorted out.

I hate to say it but the odds of the police caring or doing anything about it are slim to none.

People drive trucks like that in Jersey? I could swear he has a Texas look to him. I can only imagine how you feel, I am stuck at home today becasue it is raining outside and I just waxed yesterday.

Originally posted by IkeWRX
I hate to say it but the odds of the police caring or doing anything about it are slim to none.
I'm hoping the money from writing him a big fat failure to report/leaving the scene ticket would drive them to do something.

The cop was also young and said he loved my car...maybe that'll motivate him to screw the guy. If not, guess I'll be ponying up the insurance deductable :-(.

Originally posted by rev-2-9k
People drive trucks like that in Jersey? I could swear he has a Texas look to him. I can only imagine how you feel, I am stuck at home today becasue it is raining outside and I just waxed yesterday.
Yeah, they drive them and don't learn to park them! If it was Texas the mother-asldfkjasldfkjasdl;fkj would probably know how to park it.

Originally posted by DreamWarrior
Now I would have moved the car but, as you can see, I couldn't get in my door nor could I tell if any damage was done yet and I didn't want to potentially move the car from the scene just in case.

Sorry your car got messed up. However, if you were concerned enough to take photos, I think you could have found a way to get in the car and move it.

Sorry about your car. On the bright side the triangles in the seats look cool in the picture!!!

Wow, he's definitely crossed into your line. So does he live in your apartments? Hope the cops hunt him down.

It's time for street justice methinks....

It really sucks the big one that your car is damaged, but let's look at the facts for a second:

You know there's a very likely chance of your car being dinged, yet you sat by and let the unmentionable happen.. In fact you went through the trouble of getting your camera and taking a picture, rather than simply moving the car.

You had a chance to avoid this situation completely. Most people don't even get that chance.

Have you considered the fact that he *might* have seen you taking a picture of the cars. Who knows... It's possible he saw, and it pissed him off that you were "challenging" him rather than be smart about it and just move your car. If I was a jerk, I'd think that was an invitation to be even more of a jerk..

Cuz he didn't just slightly ding your car. From your description, what happened was obviously intentional. If you show the cops a picture the night before, they'll wonder why you didn't move it. Don't expect them or anyone else to be
very sympathetic when they hear your story.

jeez, that truck SHADOWS your car. If I were you, I'd go after every white Ram truck I see, just to be safe. LOL

Originally posted by Squidward
...If you show the cops a picture the night before, they'll wonder why you didn't move it. Don't expect them or anyone else to be very sympathetic when they hear your story.

What does it matter if he moved his car or not? The point is, he parked well within the lines, and someone hit him. Should he have moved his (well-parked) car just because some other moron can't park? Maybe, but the guy might not have hit him, either. It's 100% this other guy's fault, and he should be held accountable.

hm... you can call it a hit and run and the cops will come and arrest him..

well i dont know

my friend did a hit and run and got arrested

but this waz scratch a parked car and run lolz

I feel for you and hopefully you'll get the guy..... Was the passenger door blocked or how come you couldn't get into the car on the oher side?

Originally posted by rchaud98
It's time for street justice methinks....

Hehe, his tires look expensive, it would really suck for him to have to buy 4 new ones...

Originally posted by kbull
What does it matter if he moved his car or not? The point is, he parked well within the lines, and someone hit him. Should he have moved his (well-parked) car just because some other moron can't park? Maybe, but the guy might not have hit him, either. It's 100% this other guy's fault, and he should be held accountable.

I don't dispute that the damage is 100% of the guys fault, and CERTAINLY he will be proven liable in court..

You miss my point completely.

My point was that he shouldn't cry about something he could have avoided but gambled on it. I don't feel sorry for stupidity because instead of spending time to take the picture, he could have simply move the car... not exactly rocket science. Now he's stuck with a damaged 8 and a big headache. His own doing (not the car damage, but everything else).

Is it possible it dididn't occur to this guy to go in through the passenger side?

Granted it would probably be difficult, and you risk scuffing up some plastic part inside. Maybe he considered going in through the passenger side and dismissed the idea as too hard.

I never would have thought myself about putting it in neutral and rolling it back.

Give the guy a break. Some turd just miffed his car. He's got enough to worry about.

---A

PS. To the original poster: Definatley call the cops. If they can find any kind of evedence on the guys truck he could definatley be hit with Leaving the Scene.

Well for everyone telling me to go into the passenger's side I'd just like to say that hindsight is 20-20 and had I known this asshole was certainly going to hit me I would have parked it 20 miles away, however we have assigned parking and there were no non-assigned spots left open that I could have moved it into. So I was basically stuck leaving it there.

Not to mention that, as I said, even if there were spots open I'd have had to crawl in through the passenger's side (and I didn't think of rolling the car back to get in the drivers side). Besides that, had I hit him coming out it would have been MY FAULT! Then what?! I would have a scratched RX-8 AND higher insurance because I hit that f^$@er that was parked too close.

I guess the *best* thing I could have done in hindsight was call the police right then and there. That way they could watch me pull out, see if there was any damage when I did, and then proceed to take action. Then find the guy and tell him to move his shit parked truck so I could pull back in. But again, hindsight is always 20-20 and thinking about what I could have done does me no good today.

Anyway, thanks for the support and the hindsight insight which does me no good. As for the cops, they're probably not doing anything but I did see the truck again last night and lined up scuffs on his brush-guard with my mirror and scuffs on his paint with the scratch on my door...hopefully the cops will see it when he gets back provided he hasn't fixed it yet.

I feel your pain. Same thing happened to me in an airport parking lot. I just returned from the trip and my right side rear flare had all of the paint taken off by some white vehicle. Haven't had it fixed yet but will see what it costs next week.

well, eitherway, good luck to you in getting this whole thing resolved and getting your 8 back into it's original form.

none of us like to see damaged 8's (especially our own), it's horrific.

Originally posted by DreamWarrior
I did see the truck again last night and lined up scuffs on his brush-guard with my mirror and scuffs on his paint with the scratch on my door...

Sorry to hear about that major bummer. Why don't you leave a note on his windshield? Real short and sweet; not provocative or vicious. Just something like,

"Excuse me, but you parked next to me the other night (insert date) and your truck was parked over the line and into my space, so I took a picture of it up against mine, and the next morning I found that your truck had extensively damaged my car. Today I saw your truck again and matched up the damage on it with the damage to my car, and there's no doubt that you hit me. Although I have already reported this problem to the police, I'd much rather resolve it amicably, so please call me at the number below and we'll work it out."

Print out the picture and leave it with the note. That way he knows you've got him dead to rights and could charge him with a hit and run. He knows you have pictures. He knows the dents match. He knows that YOU KNOW where he parks, and he might have some fear that you would retaliate.

If he doesn't call you, then find out who he is (the DMV in many states will release this information to someone with a specific legal reason for getting it), and then call him or send him a letter. Eventually, you should get redress. In the meantime, document your damage carefully with photos, along with the matching damage to his truck, and get your car fixed.

That's what I'd do, anyway. Whatever you do, keep your cool and just stay on target, which is to get your damage paid for. If you pay the deductible and your insurance pays the rest of the damage, it should not affect your rates if you show your insurance company that it was not your fault. Then all you want from this guy is your deductible, and it will be up to your insurer to subrogate against him for the balance; not your problem.

Hard-8:

That's not a bad idea, but if I alert him to his misnomer I'd think he would go out and make his truck look all shiny new and I'd never be able to show the cops the slight scuffs on his truck.

I'm banking on the fact that he thinks I have no clue regarding who did this because then he has no reason to shine up his truck to remove any "evidence".

When, and if, the cops question him he may also lie, not knowing that they already have evidence that he was parked there, which will look conspicous and support me...hopefully.

But thanks for the idea! Maybe I'll drop him a note if the cops don't do anything this way he might at least pay my deductible out of, as you said, fear I may press harder. But with law enforcement plates, I don't think I'm going to instill any fear into him :(.

I hear ya. Whichever approach you take, I might suggest photographing the scuffs on his truck ASAP. Good luck!

Yes, you should definitely take *bunch* of photos showing the damage on the truck and the license plate, preferably both in one photos.

(Or is the truck gone right now?)

My RX-8 got hit-n-run in a parking lot at work, but I couldn't find the offending SUV (or truck.. must've been one of those big ones).
Luckily my damage was just the rear bumper panel.

Keep us updated...

Truck is gone, he is conveniently only there at nights and trying to take a picture of the damage with a flash at night seemed to be impossible :(. I was hoping that he'd be there in the morning so I could call the cops and have them look at it directly...but no go. No call back from the cops from this morning when I told them about the noticable damage...which probably means they don't care any f-ing way :(.

As you have already seen, this is not something the cops are going to get too excited about: Except for the possible hit and run issue, it's really a civil matter with the other dude. And the cops will probably decide the guy may not even have noticed hitting you, or that it would be too hard to prove intent and too little damage to warrant intervention.

I would not wait for their help.

Sounds like you will need to confront the truck driver in person.

Taking a picture of the damage at night is easy, just shine a brigth flashlight or spotlight on the truck and take the picture w/ out the flash on

Looking at the truck and its add-ons, it may as well have a bumper sticker reading "Asshole is my Lifestyle."

Our thread starter may have a chance trying to recover damages by approaching the pickup driver in a reasonable manner, but with assigned parking spaces and both vehicles sharing the same lot there's lots of potential for future trouble with this guy. That kind of parking says the guy either drinks a lot or he's just an inconsiderate jerk likely willing to back up his right to be a jerk with his fists. Be careful, take your pictures, and provide them and your police report to your insurance company. They may be able to find out his insurance co. with his plate numbers. Unfortunately on non-public property, these kinds of property damage issues are hard to get law enforcement involved in. If the guy really is in law enforcement a call to his employer might help you. Best of luck.

This reminds me of a story about younger brother who is hotter-tempered than I. One day he parked his new Mustang SVO by itself out in the Bufu Egypt end of some parking lot only to come back and find a jerk parked so close to his driver door that he couldn't open it, and no other cars parked anywhere around. Clearly intentional. Gary calmly got his valve-stem removal tool from the glove compartment, took the valve stems out of all 4 of the offender's tires, and left them in an envelope under his wiper with a note to think twice about trying it again. No damage done to either car, just four flat but undamaged tires for the offender.

Originally posted by Ned M
Looking at the truck and its add-ons, it may as well have a bumper sticker reading "Asshole is my Lifestyle."

Either that or "If you had a penis as small as mine, you'd drive a truck this big, too!"

In all honesty, sorry to hear about your 8, Dream. I hope you took or can take, clear pix of the plates and other damage. Have you thought about trying to slip out to the location where it happened at say, around sunrise? If he parks there only at night, does he leave before sunrise? Or is there a window of opportunity here?
Just a thought. :)

Ned: LOL at the valve stems...I don't think I'd be that calm...if I end up paying a $500 dedudable, I'll be very pissed off to the tune of more than that. But you're right, the guy is consistently parking like an ass, and he's built like a brick shit-house so I'm sure he'd be raring for a fight if the opportunity presented itself.

Doccable: Happened at my appt. complex, can't do anything here it'd be too obvious.

As for an update: The cops came out tonight and said that the damage on his truck is not proof without blue paint transfer. Looks like I'm out a deductable unless he "confesses" to the investigating officer. Pretty much, I'm feeling pretty screwed here to the tune of a $500 deductable to get this fixed.

How about you tell the police officer the guy is built like a tank and you're concerned he'll be confrontative, so would he mind coming along with you while you ask the guy about it. Then take the cop along with you while you nicely ask the guy why he didn't leave a note after dinging up your car?

My suggestion:
take measurements of the location(s) of the damage. If they match up, then that is at least some evidence; it'll narrow it down to the model of the hitter.

is there NO paint of yours/his on his/your cars?

I wouldn't involve the cops unless you have ABSOULUTE proof.

I advise you just go over and ask him about it. CALMLY first. wear a wire;) (but make sure yer in public, not his residence). Maybe he'll do the traditional redneck comeback: "so i did it, what ya gonna do?"

If he's ignorant AND hasn't seen a cop, show the pics and measurement data and threaten police action. that may scare him.

Originally posted by steven975
My suggestion:
take measurements of the location(s) of the damage. If they match up, then that is at least some evidence; it'll narrow it down to the model of the hitter.

is there NO paint of yours/his on his/your cars?

I wouldn't involve the cops unless you have ABSOULUTE proof.

I advise you just go over and ask him about it. CALMLY first. wear a wire;) (but make sure yer in public, not his residence). Maybe he'll do the traditional redneck comeback: "so i did it, what ya gonna do?"

If he's ignorant AND hasn't seen a cop, show the pics and measurement data and threaten police action. that may scare him.
I measured this morning, definately feasable that his brush guard was what hit my mirror and his front bumper left paint on my car. Of course, his front bumper is so messed up in that area that its hard to tell...he's probably hit a lot of people though because that part of his bumper is pretty scuffed up.

Anyway, no there's no paint of mine on his car but there is white paint on mine. Of course, the cops keep saying that in order to prove it there has to be paint from mine to his also...which IMO is bull because it doesn't have to transfer both ways. And paint transfer is easily removed...hell most of what is on mine is gone with the heavy rain from last night...he could have spit and rubbed the bumper and any potential blue paint would have been wiped away. The scuffs underneath, however, would stay...but that's not "conclusive" to this dimwits.

My take, I have:

Pictures of his shit park job and no damage on my car, yet

Damage the very next morning

White paint on my car that lines up with scuff marks on his truck (but no "conclusive" blue paint to be seen)

Scuffs on my mirror lining up with his brush guard (which is the only thing that juts out on the front end of his truck thats low enough to be capable of clipping my mirror).

I don't know what else they want. Their damn conclusive evidence is so easily washed/brushed away and they are going to let this a$$ get away with it because that's probably exactly what he did IF there was any paint transfer.

ARGH the frustration. I might as well just conceed to losing $500 for my deductable.... Maybe I'll just stop paying my state income taxes to recup it, obviously the part that pays the cops doesn't get me anything.

There is always CIVIL court.

a RATIONAL person would conclude that it is VERY likely he did it. the test in civil court is different than criminal court. Talk with this guy about it and state your facts (his paint on your car...document it). If he tells you to F off, threaten to file suit, and DO IT if he still won't work with you.

If it is concluded that he did it and left the scene in civil court, it is likely criminal proceedings could start. I doubt you'd even need a lawyer in small claims court. You seem intelligent enough to argue your case.

just go to small claims court

What a pain... Do some research on how long you actually have to spend on a small claims court case, see if it's worth it. Maybe those things only take a couple hours, I don't know. $500, plus any insurance rate hike, might be worth your time in court.

FYI, small claims court is an automatic loss for the party that no-shows, which is obviously what this jerk would do. Then you get a judgement against him which is pretty much worthless. You can hire bigger and bigger private investigators to serve the judgement paper but it will probably cost more than the repair.

When's your lease up? Borrow a dump truck the night you leave and drop about 10 yards of gravel on his truck. Everyone at the apartment complex will thank you.

It just seems to me that you're still shadow-boxing: You're wringing your hands, just assuming he won't admit it or pay up. Why not ask him first? I doubt it will work, but you won't know until you try. (See my post further above regarding a note with photos.) If he tells you to piss off, THEN you can decide whether to sue him. (I'd be sorely tempted, if I were you.)

Originally posted by beachdog
FYI, small claims court is an automatic loss for the party that no-shows, which is obviously what this jerk would do. Then you get a judgement against him which is pretty much worthless. You can hire bigger and bigger private investigators to serve the judgement paper but it will probably cost more than the repair.


I actually used small claims court earlier this year and was pleased. It's pretty cheap, simple and effective. As for serving the judgement papers, in some jurisdictions, you can actually pay the sheriff a small fee to do it.

But as Hard 8 said, you could also just try the direct approach first.

Originally posted by mamccubbin
As for serving the judgement papers, in some jurisdictions, you can actually pay the sheriff a small fee to do it.


The off-duty sheriff has to be polite and legal. I got much better results with the big scary private investigator.

Oh man, youre way calmer than I would be. Which is a good thing.. I'd bash the crap outta his truck!! Which would not be good. Then I'd go to his place and beat the crap outta him.. that also wouldnt be good.

I guess you're taking the right steps to try to do the right thing.

:(

i think also if he parked illegally and you hit his truck it's his fault. you were legally parked he wasn't.