Besides clothes, what do you always bring with you?


Left wrist = watch (i have 8 watches, 1 Rolex and 1 Folex ;))
Right wrist = 24k gold bracelet i got for my high school graduation (have never taken it off)
Left pocket = box of cigarettes, lighter, keys to the 8
Right pocket = wallet (w/ at least 20 dollars at all times, 2 credit cards, 1 debit card, Best Buy Rewards Card ;)), cellphone
Belt = Motorola messenging pager for emails/txt messaging/paging, iPod

wow, that's a lot of stuff!

by the way is it weird that i keep my wallet in my front right pocket? i could never get used to keeping it in my butt pockets...it always made that butt cheek numb and i always felt lopsided sitting down

wallet and keys. Everything else is optional.

Damn dood.

Let's see...:

left wrist = watch
left pocket = rx8 keys
right pocket = fat wallet (lots of cards)

2 way pager and cellphone. pager is for work.

Berretta Model 96 (.40 cal) Stainless Steel in under the belt holster.

Originally posted by BRx8
by the way is it weird that i keep my wallet in my front right pocket? i could never get used to keeping it in my butt pockets...it always made that butt cheek numb and i always felt lopsided sitting down


I carry mine up front as well. I don't like sitting on my wallet because it's fat, and I'm afraid it will squeeze its way out of my back pocket.

Originally posted by 93rdcurrent
Berretta Model 96 (.40 cal) Stainless Steel in under the belt holster.

an MLO packing heat! Dayam don't miss any payments.

I'm not the bank... Just don't try to rob the bank. No I have my CPL and carry since I am not always in nice neighborhoods when looking at some of my clients houses.

Other than my wallet and keys, I always carry a grilled cheese sandwich, a copy of 'The Concise Samuel Pepys,' and an armadillo (which I keep in my trousers).

Right pocket = keys, crapload of change.
Left pocket = Cell phone, Wallet with lots of singles for those moments when you need lots of $1.
Left back pocket = a crinkled bank receipt showing I have around 150k+ in the bank. That way if I bump into a lady, I can drop the reciept, let her see it, and BAMN... she's mine.
Right back pocket = Nothing
Right sock = Extra secret stash of money, about $500.
Left sock = Secret stash of hash, good for a small group to share.

Originally posted by 93rdcurrent
I'm not the bank... Just don't try to rob the bank. No I have my CPL and carry since I am not always in nice neighborhoods when looking at some of my clients houses.

they must be some seriously bad neighborhoods to have to carry. :D

Hmmm... It depends on where I am. When I'm out and about:
Right Rear, wallet (unless I'm sitting down)
Right Front, keys
Left Front, change if any, cell phone (unless I'm sitting down)
Left wrist, watch
Right hand, glass of scotch
Left hand, rests on my nuts

cigarettes

Any neighborhood can be seriously bad under the right conditions ;) . No one's getting my RX-8! And who said I have to carry?

if someone tries to get my 8 i'll call a cop. i'm not going to play target practice with them. do you have to carry? you tell me. do you ever go into these neighborhoods without your weapon? this is a topic for a new thread. as far as what i carry, keys, wallet and cell. :D

Hmm..I feel kinda tame compared to some of you guys. I can't live without my purse (and in it cell phone, cc, keys, eyeliner, drivers license, etc.) and chapstick. I'd be worse off if I forgot my chapstick than my purse. I can't function without it.

I carry most of the time regardless of whether or not I'm in a "bad" neighborhood. I have been in a few bad situations without being in a bad neighborhood. And I enjoy exercising my rights since we have so few left these days.

Left front pocket: loose change, sometimes keys,
Right front pocket: wallet ( I don't like to put it in the rear pockets for a couple reasons. It makes me sit a little lop sided, hurting my back. The other reason, because it is easiar for pick pockets.)
Left wrist: watch

I can't function without it.

That's my wife as well.

cigs wallet n keys =)

keys, wallet, cell(80%), swiss army knife. and every day during the week a 7/16 small ratcheting box wrench. that thing has come in handy more times than i can count.

Originally posted by 93rdcurrent
I carry most of the time regardless of whether or not I'm in a "bad" neighborhood. I have been in a few bad situations without being in a bad neighborhood. And I enjoy exercising my rights since we have so few left these days.

I used to carry a lot, but my wife is uncomfortable around guns, so I don't anymore. If I do feel as though it's necessary to carry, I usually don't tell her. She has yet to notice.

Unless I know I'm going into a bad area, I generally just carry my wallet, keys, jump drive, and my Leatherman Wave.

when i went to Minnesota i saw signs up at the malls and clubs asking not to bring firearms into the place...i thought that was kinda weird considering it's illegal to carry weapons in Illinois...and while i'm pretty sure there are some very dangerous places here especially the ghetto in the innercity, i've never felt compelled to carry a firearm

besides, i have too much stuff on me as it is...i could always beat him to death with my cellphone!

Left wrist:Wenger Watch
Right-front pocket:keys
Right-rear pocket:wallet & Gerber Covert folder
On belt:Cell phone

93rdcurrent---A Beretta 96? I have to agree with the people who question you on this one. That is one of the largest, heaviest handguns on the market. Why not go with a mini-Glock or a Kahr?

And BTW, cops are under NO legal requirement to come to your aid. They are required to catch criminals, not protect citizens.

Elara....I have a purse too. It's a biker bag. My girlfriend calls it a man-bag...but I know it's a purse. I keep my PDA, bills, checkbook to pay bills, work files, work keys, MP3 player w/ headphones, FM transmitter and power cord, digital camera, police scanner, stamps, pens, sharpies, notepad, and other assorted items....but NO tampons!!! I can't live without my purse.

my car keys

My penis, never leave home without it! Oh... and my codpiece.

bowman,

It's big alright but with 2 t-shirts on no one can see it and since I have one of those under the belt holsters I don't notice the weight. For my next gun I am thinking of going with a compact .45 or something similar but I like the .40 rounds better. I also like the accuracy and feel of my model 96. Some people are just funny like that. Of course I don't take it with me to Canada or to Oregon or California.

Originally posted by IkeWRX
My penis, never leave home without it! Oh... and my codpiece.

Oh is it detachable? :D

Left wrist - Skagen/Kenneth Cole watch

Left back pocket - Wallet w/ whole bunch of cards and usually no cash. I love charging everything cause then I can keep track of what I've spent my money on. My friends hate the fact I don't carry cash :D

Belt - Cellphone and keys

Hi All,

Living in an Australian city, means Im not likely to be a vicitm of much crime, But it really worries me that you Ameicans feel the need to carry a gun, I woudl like to know if you really need it, or if it is somewhere between a saftey blanket and a political statement?

Have any of you actually used the gun, for legitimate defensive reasons?

The criminals areounf Perth are mostly 70-80 yrs old and committing the felony that is, failing to drive in an appropriate manor..

Cheers,

Case

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Originally posted by sinkas
Living in an Australian city, means Im not likely to be a vicitm of much crime, But it really worries me that you Ameicans feel the need to carry a gun, I woudl like to know if you really need it, or if it is somewhere between a saftey blanket and a political statement?
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It's my constitutional right. And if you think that you are not likely to be victim of much crime, the first year crime statistics from Australia were reported:

>The first year results are now in,
>Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent
> Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent
> Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent
> (yes, 44 percent!)
> In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with
> firearms are now up 300 percent.
> (Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned
> them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still
> possess their guns!)

Case,

I did get jumped by about 15 guys when I was 21, I've told the story elsewhere (search ever been to jail thread) so I won't repeat it here. I have never used my gun but I have had to pull it on 3 people.

1. A guy zoomed past me in a parking lot while I was backing out of a parking spot and I didn't have time to stop so I almost hit him. I honked my horn after he passed. He pulled around the corner into an alley way and got out of his car yelling "You want to play?" he had his right hand behind his back and I was stuck with traffic in front of me with no where to go. Not wanting to get shot I got out of my car and put my hand on my gun under my shirt. This fine young gentleman pulled his hand out and had a tazer in his hand which he triggered so that I could see that it worked. I pulled my gun out and took the safety off telling him that this is how people get shot. He very quickly jumped back in his car and took off.

2. I was at a friends party in his apartment in a shadey part of town when 3 gang members showed up and pushed their way into the party. I started to escort them out and instructed a friend to call the police. The guys became very belligerent and I ended up pulling my gun on them when one of them threatened that he was going to stab me with a knife as he reached for his back pocket. Needless to say the police showed up shortly after and they were escorted away.

3. I had someone try to break into my M3 at about 3 am one night. The car was parked accross the street from my apartment complex but I had the Compustar alarm so I was paged when the alarm went off. As I approached the would be theif he grabbed his slim jim like it was a knife and began to walk towards me. Needless to say when he saw that he was staring at the business end of my Berretta he decided to exit stage left.

I used to fight people more often but after getting needlessly injured a bunch of times (even when I won the fight) I decided that I no longer like it as much as I used to. I hope I never have to shoot anyone but if it comes down to it I will. And I also called law enforcement every time I had to show my gun and every time they agreed that I was justified (otherwise I would loose my cpl). Realise that this is over a 3.5 year period and I used to live in a fairly bad neighborhood (the same one my friends party was held in). I haven't had occasion to show my weapon in my new neighborhood.

Originally posted by sinkas
Hi All,

Living in an Australian city, means Im not likely to be a vicitm of much crime, But it really worries me that you Ameicans feel the need to carry a gun, I woudl like to know if you really need it, or if it is somewhere between a saftey blanket and a political statement?

Have any of you actually used the gun, for legitimate defensive reasons?

The criminals areounf Perth are mostly 70-80 yrs old and committing the felony that is, failing to drive in an appropriate manor..

Cheers,

Case

i agree i dont see the need to carry a gun. i've never been "jumped" and really never been in a fight. 93rd i respect your opinion and you as a person but i'm concerned when you say "i used to fight people and no longer like it as much as i used to." whom were you fighting and why? has the gun replaced the fighting because it makes it easier? it sounds like you've had alot of close calls. more than the average person. i pray you use that cpl wisely and don't pull that trigger mistakenly. there's a fine line between murder and self defense in cases like the ones you mentioned. be careful! :)

Originally posted by sinkas
Hi All,

Living in an Australian city, means Im not likely to be a vicitm of much crime, But it really worries me that you Ameicans feel the need to carry a gun, I woudl like to know if you really need it, or if it is somewhere between a saftey blanket and a political statement?

Have any of you actually used the gun, for legitimate defensive reasons?

The criminals areounf Perth are mostly 70-80 yrs old and committing the felony that is, failing to drive in an appropriate manor..

Cheers,

Case

I don't own a functioning fire arm. Just because a few Americans do carry, do not lump all of us into a category of gun toting fools eager to get into a scuff just to pull out a weapon and make someone a statistic.

93rdcurrent has legitimate reasons to do what he has done. If I lived in an area where I felt threatened or in possible harm, I would either get licensed to carry or something, too. Fortunately, I live in the middle of corn country...well maybe not so fortunate for other things...but the crime rate is fairly low here.

Not every American owns or needs a gun. I was on the rifle team in high school and was a really good marksman shooting perfect scores in every position except standing and only missing by 1 point in that position which qualified me for state. This was with a 22 cal. target, no scope on a 50ft. range. Do I own one now? No, I see no reason to but if it came down to it where I needed one, I would.

Now, back on topic...what do I carry. I don't carry my stuff in a fanny bag or man's bag because it looks a bit strange...society makes it that way. But, if I could carry a purse, I would. Not because of a secret desire for feminimity, but, I carry a lot of stuff. I wear out pockets before I wear out pants.

right pocket - keys. I don't have a few keys, I have a BUNCH of keys. Keys to home, cars, work. My work keys consist of a ring that has 17 keys. 8 of them are large institutional sized door keys and the remaing to cabinets and padalocks. I have keys to 4 cars in that pocket with 3 fobs on them.

left pocket - change, folding money, swiss army knife (not the huge one with the spoon and saw) 2 ink pens.

left rear pocket - two keys to an auditorium that I am responsible for at where I work. I just never put thm on my regular key chain because I am often lending them out.

left right pocket - wallet/check book combination and appointment book. I never carry money in my wallet, only credit cards, other cards and I have one that also holds my check book.

left hand - my wedding ring, never take it off I never wear a watch, there are clocks all over the place and I have a job that runs by a schedule! Ha!

right hand - one sterling silver braided style ring

left ear - used to have a diamond studded ear ring. Took it out a few months ago, never put it back. The hole is still there.

I loose 10 lbs., it seems, when I take off my pants.

One fairly thick hoop earing in the left ear.

Festina Tour de France watch on the left wrist when I am not at work. I work at a bike shop and figure I'll break it.

Keys and Blistex in the front pockets.

Wallet in the back right.

Man, I am boring.

dennis it's a given that it's legal to carry a concealed weapon. that fact is, if you don't carry one you cant use it if you do carry one you better make sure you know when to use it.

RX-GR8,

I understand your concern and rest assured that I have owned guns since I was 18 and have not shot anyone yet. If I ever do need to pull the trigger (and I hope that never happens) I will know that I was justified since I am not the kind of person to show aggression needlessly.

My dad was in the Air Force and we travelled all over the country as he was transferred from post to post. I went to a different school almost every year I was in school. I was not only the new kid but I was an Air Force brat to top it all off. That may not mean much to most people but I will tell you that kids look for reasons to cause problems with each other all the time. For this reason I got into lots of fights. I never backed down as a kid even when out numbered and for that reason I also got hurt. I have probably been in about 10 fights since I have been an adult and most of them were stupid bar type situations where some drunk guy decides to take a swing at me for whatever stupid reason they can come up with (one time it was because I was wearing my work short, a simple black polo shirt that had the logo for the martial arts studio I ran with the word staff above the logo). I guess he wanted to prove to his friends that he could open a can of whoop ass on a martial artist, he was wrong. I don't go out looking for trouble. I just don't run from it either. If I can solve something without violence I will. I could have legitemately shot some of the people I mentioned in my previous post but chose not too.

I travel light. No jewelry, no watch. I do wear my wedding ring when I go out with my wife to a fancy place. Just a wallet and keys. I keep the cell phone in the car.

At work, a pen, a stethoscope (mostly for appearances, rarely is helpful), and my PDA (for medication doses and occasional references). No white coat, just scrubs. Black, of course.

I have the best job in the world, I get to wear pajamas and tennis shoes to work! Ties suck in Texas, it's like torture to me.

And I think it's great that people like our Stickinator are packing heat. When I drove my Lexus SC400 I felt like a target and strongly considered getting a concealed carry license. I am not as nervous in the 8, one reason I don't drive a fancy car. Citizens can make a big difference in fighting crime if they are observent and ready for action.

I have brandished my Smith and Wesson pump 12 gauge with pistol grip and police barrel at some thugs trying to steal a car in my apartment parking lot at college. Very effective.

Originally posted by sinkas
Hi All,

Living in an Australian city, means Im not likely to be a vicitm of much crime, But it really worries me that you Ameicans feel the need to carry a gun, I woudl like to know if you really need it, or if it is somewhere between a saftey blanket and a political statement?

Statistically, most Americans aren't likely to be victims of violent crime either. It's a detachable penis.

That doesn't apply to anyone on this board, of course.

Wallet:

I usually keep it in my butt pocket if I want my pants to hang right. If I'm wearing jeans I keep it in the front. If I'm driving I take it out and put it on the console. I have a pretty slim wallet but it has a moneyclip which can get uncomfortable. I very rearely carry any cash.

Cell Phone:

It's company paid for, so I pretty much keep it with me all the time. Not to mention that I'm cheap so it's the ONLY phone that I keep.

Keychain:

I keep my keys with me at all times. It used to have my lucky casino chip. Now it has my lucky keychain/pocketwatch.

Glasses:

Without them I couldn't see the "E" on an eye chart clearly unless my nose was touching the wall.

Detatchable penises (or is it peni?) are kinda cool, but they can be a real pain in the ass sometimes.

Originally posted by I, Claudius
Statistically, most Americans aren't likely to be victims of violent crime either. It's a detachable penis.

That doesn't apply to anyone on this board, of course.

Originally posted by guy321
Detatchable penises (or is it peni?) are kinda cool, but they can be a real pain in the ass sometimes. Ha ha, guy... pain in the.. ha ha

I'm so surprised that no one has condoms with them at all times! :p

Originally posted by Meowloud
I'm so surprised that no one has condoms with them at all times! :p
That would be tough for me to explain to the old lady.

Condoms leave a stupid ring in the wallet, plus they break down in heat. So it's better just to get them when you need them!

I always stick some in my bag if I go on a trip tho. Never know when you might need one. They make good water bladders if you're lost in the woods. Just don't get the ones with nynoxil9 that stuff tastes nasty!

Originally posted by Meowloud
Ha ha, guy... pain in the.. ha ha

I'm so surprised that no one has condoms with them at all times! :p

Originally posted by Speed-ER doc
That would be tough for me to explain to the old lady.
You may want to try a thinner one then. Maybe a 'sensitive' feel type! :D

Originally posted by guy321
Just don't get the ones with nynoxil9 that stuff tastes nasty!
I really don't want to know why you know that. :)

A Knife

On that subject, doc. Ever eat boudin?? doesn't the casing look like a condom?

Originally posted by Speed-ER doc
I really don't want to know why you know that. :)

I think Sinkas ""i used to fight people and no longer like it as much as i used to."" should be quote of the month at least- cause it is the quote of my day, I will say that! :)

Originally posted by guy321
On that subject, doc. Ever eat boudin?? doesn't the casing look like a condom?
I used to.... :D

Originally posted by Kain
A Knife
In the personality thread, basically I wrote that you were a reserved genius with a sick sense of humor... but I'm leaning more toward... sick genius with a reserved sense of humor! ha ha

Originally posted by Meowloud
In the personality thread, basically I wrote that you were a reserved genius with a sick sense of humor... but I'm leaning more toward... sick genius with a reserved sense of humor! ha ha

Thank you! both of them maybe me smirk. :) but your probably starting to raise some "red flags" ;)

money clip

Originally posted by blue flash
money clip
This is the only article due to lack of room for anything else?!?
*Make note: If you want to mugg someone, this is your man!*
HA HA

Just my ball and chain

Originally posted by Meowloud
This is the only article due to lack of room for anything else?!?
*Make note: If you want to mugg someone, this is your man!*
HA HA Meow why do you say i'm an easytarget

my onehitter.

Originally posted by blue flash
Meow why do you say i'm an easytarget
You only have room for your money clip... to hold those WADS of cash :D :D

Originally posted by Meowloud
You only have room for your money clip... to hold those WADS of cash :D :D i carry only big bills to piss people off

pointless hijack

I am married so I never have cash. when I get it ....it is like some disease takes over and I have to spend every penny before I get home

Originally posted by Kain
pointless hijack

I am married so I never have cash. when I get it ....it is like some disease takes over and I have to spend every penny before I get home
You know, you can only give cash to hookers. Is this why I see you stopping at the ATM after work all of the time?? :p

(Oh, and I carry mace in the 8. I don't put a gun in there, because Jon can't have guns in the cars... too tempting. Seriously.)

Originally posted by Meowloud
I don't put a gun in there, because Jon can't have guns in the cars... too tempting. Seriously.)

exactly my thoughts...i mean there are just some situations that are too tempting to use it...without one, you're afforded no choice but to back off the argument, keep it at as an argument, or duke it out resulting in a few cuts and bruises...but when given another choice, which is bust out the rat-tat-tat-tat and bust a cap on his ass, some people won't hold back and shoot which may result in death...kinda frightening, what happened to good old fisticuffs?

Originally posted by Meowloud
You know, you can only give cash to hookers. Is this why I see you stopping at the ATM after work all of the time?? :p

(Oh, and I carry mace in the 8. I don't put a gun in there, because Jon can't have guns in the cars... too tempting. Seriously.) that's for the tip ,they accept mastercard &vias you should no this

It's not true.. there's alot of call girls that take amex/visa/MC but hardly any take discover for some reason. Some will do the tip as a charge too.


Originally posted by Meowloud
You know, you can only give cash to hookers. Is this why I see you stopping at the ATM after work all of the time?? :p

(Oh, and I carry mace in the 8. I don't put a gun in there, because Jon can't have guns in the cars... too tempting. Seriously.)

Originally posted by blue flash
that's for the tip ,they accept mastercard &vias you should no this
Hmmm, they don't have those 'sophisticates' here in Tennessee :D

Yes, BRx8, I truly think that is how some people get killed in road rage. They can't have something that powerful in the car. I don't even tempt Jon, as he will admit he can't have one in the car. This is when purses come in handy.

"You know, you can only give cash to hookers. Is this why I see you stopping at the ATM after work all of the time?? "

yeah my wife always asks about all of the even increment withdrawls!!! :)

"(Oh, and I carry mace in the 8. I don't put a gun in there, because Jon can't have guns in the cars... too tempting. Seriously.) "

In the movie True Romance- Christian Slader's (SP?) character is quoted something like- "I have found it is better to have a gun and not need it then to need a gun and not have it"

I am not an NRA member or anything like that- I just think everyone should be able to conceal a gun on them legally- then you would always keep your mouth shut b/c you would assume everyone would have one under their skirt or blazer- this is sad, but could be relevant in our current society

I grew up in a state where it's legal to carry a registerd firearm in your vehicle, loaded, without a carry permit. I never carried a gun. I've had 3 incidents where guns were drawn/pointed/fired at or near me.. I managed to get out of these situations without being shot or shooting someone (hard to do without a gun).. I still don't think I need to carry a gun.. I go to home poker games/bars all the time where people carry guns. I like to shoot and I've been to the shooting range many times. One Time I did carry a gun accidently into a bank.. I was working in the money counting facility.. thier metal detectors caught it and they were NOT happy, fortunately I talked my way out of it, since I had no ammo.

Originally posted by Kain
"You know, you can only give cash to hookers. Is this why I see you stopping at the ATM after work all of the time?? "

yeah my wife always asks about all of the even increment withdrawls!!! :)

"(Oh, and I carry mace in the 8. I don't put a gun in there, because Jon can't have guns in the cars... too tempting. Seriously.) "

In the movie True Romance- Christian Slader's (SP?) character is quoted something like- "I have found it is better to have a gun and not need it then to need a gun and not have it"

I am not an NRA member or anything like that- I just think everyone should be able to conceal a gun on them legally- then you would always keep your mouth shut b/c you would assume everyone would have one under their skirt or blazer- this is sad, but could be relevant in our current society

i own 2 guns a shotgun which is a collector and a chrome plated 380. i do not keep either of these in the car with me because you never know what could happen .but when my wife went to fla .she did keep the 380 in the glove box believe me you would rather have me shoot at you than my wife she is deadly with that thing.

Cell phone
Lip gloss/balm
Ring on middle finger, left hand, so you get t a decorated bird should I choose to flip it :D
Toe ring never comes off
Necklace never comes off, but I switch to a different one occasionally
A couple squares of Eclipse speariment gum tucked in my lipgloss case

Originally posted by poolsidenaz
Cell phone
Lip gloss/balm
Ring on middle finger, left hand, so you get t a decorated bird should I choose to flip it :D
Toe ring never comes off
Necklace never comes off, but I switch to a different one occasionally
A couple squares of Eclipse speariment gum tucked in my lipgloss case

boy do I feel stupid- I always thought you were a woman!

Originally posted by Kain
boy do I feel stupid- I always thought you were a woman!

well carrying lip gloss and wearing a toe ring usually means you are a woman so i'm pretty sure she is a woman

Originally posted by BRx8
well carrying lip gloss and wearing a toe ring usually means you are a woman so i'm pretty sure she is a woman

It was a joke sorry- I will try and wet my humour up! ;)

Originally posted by Kain
I will try and wet my humour up! ;)
Just try not to wet other things :D

Originally posted by Meowloud
Just try not to wet other things :D

For my chair it is too late :)

Originally posted by Kain
For my chair it is too late :)
EWWWW! "Can we get a clean-up on Aisle 4?"

Left wrist: Watch (my trusty Fossil, waterproof to 100m!). When I forget my watch I feel naked.

Neck: slim gold chain holding my good-luck charm, a little golden humuhumunukunukuapua'a.

Purse: cellphone, wallet, Garmin iQue PDA/NAV, digital camera, assorted makeup (depends on what I'm painted with that particular day), pillbottle w/ acetaminophen and ibuprofen for the occasional headache, Wet Ones, and the indispensible lipbalm. Total weight: About ten pounds, which is why I don't need a concealed weapon. I just whack the bad guy with the purse.

Aratinga - could you loan Kain a couple Wet Ones? :D

Originally posted by Aratinga
Left wrist: Watch (my trusty Fossil, waterproof to 100m!). When I forget my watch I feel naked.

Neck: slim gold chain holding my good-luck charm, a little golden humuhumunukunukuapua'a.

Purse: cellphone, wallet, Garmin iQue PDA/NAV, digital camera, assorted makeup (depends on what I'm painted with that particular day), pillbottle w/ acetaminophen and ibuprofen for the occasional headache, Wet Ones, and the indispensible lipbalm. Total weight: About ten pounds, which is why I don't need a concealed weapon. I just whack the bad guy with the purse.

I am pretty much obsesive-compulsive- if I had to have that many things before I left the house I would never leave! ;) counting to make sure I have my 50 wet wipes over and over and over

Originally posted by BRx8
exactly my thoughts...i mean there are just some situations that are too tempting to use it...without one, you're afforded no choice but to back off the argument, keep it at as an argument, or duke it out resulting in a few cuts and bruises...but when given another choice, which is bust out the rat-tat-tat-tat and bust a cap on his ass, some people won't hold back and shoot which may result in death...kinda frightening, what happened to good old fisticuffs?

You're right, you shouldn't carry a handgun. But for most people, carrying a firearm makes them less aggressive. The option of deadly force makes them try to de-escalate the situation.

Allowing citizens to legally carry concealed weapons reduces interpersonal crime. No felony has been commited with a legally concealed firearm.

Source: My unpublished undergraduate research project for my BS in Criminal Justice/Psychology.

Read the study More Guns, Less Crime by Prof John Lott of the Univ of Chicago. His is the most comprehensive study to date. His critics have attacked him personally and his funding but they can't seem to touch his science.

Two rings of silver in the left ear.
One ring on each hand.
Necklace that never comes off
Casio Baby G watch [red & black to match the interior of the RX8]
Motorola v60i on the belt loop
Wallet in the front left.
Cash & Keys to the 8 in the front right.
Swiss Army knife with ballpoint pen and night light in right pocket.
Nothing in the back.
Spare Li-Ion battery and tiny Pill box in the coin pocket
- Pill box has:
- water purification tablet (just in case)
- Percoset -- ruptured disc acts up and I'm prone to kidney stones at random (ouch!)
- Advil & Pepto (just in case)

Originally posted by BRx8
exactly my thoughts...i mean there are just some situations that are too tempting to use it...without one, you're afforded no choice but to back off the argument, keep it at as an argument, or duke it out resulting in a few cuts and bruises...but when given another choice, which is bust out the rat-tat-tat-tat and bust a cap on his ass, some people won't hold back and shoot which may result in death...kinda frightening, what happened to good old fisticuffs?

I am just the opposite. I risk a lot by getting into a fist fight with someone. With my 20+ years of martial arts experience I can literally kill someone with my bare hands. If I do hit someone I face a lot more risk in the courts than I do for shooting them. I am not saying that I would fight someone to the death intentionally but if and when I have been in a fight I want to end it as quickly as possible and when an opening presents itself there is no thought as to what I am doing necessarily it just happens. I used to compete in sparring matches and I quit for similar reasons. You just go into auto pilot and allow your body to move with out calculation at any opening which can lead to serious injuries. I don't want to hurt people nor do I want to get hurt myself. With my gun I have to think quite a bit more about what I am doing and it's not an automatic response for me like my martial arts are.

Also it is within the code of the Bushi (Samurai) that you should be familiar and comfortable with the same modern weapons that your enemy may use against you.

that's kinda the problem though, 93rdcurrent...i trust myself completely behind the wheel but what you can never trust is the other person on the same road...there are some really bad people out there that just don't give a f*** and if the law allows you to carry one, what's to say they aren't already packing? i think it just allows more people to obtain firearms which isn't a good thing...the more guns are out there, the more likely it is for people to get shot, or worse, the mroe likely it would be for little kids to get a hold of them and play with them...

on the other hand, like bowman has said, i've read several articles about states that have legalized the possession of firearms have decreased their crime percentage...i don't know the logic behind that but i find it a bit ironic that that would happen when you give people the authority to possess a weapon in public...i don't really care what other states do besides my own, but i'd like to stay in areas that are as free from weapons as possible, except for the occasional display items like samurai swords (which i have a small collection of), knives, and guns used for display and shooting ranges only

Me ballz.

Everything else is optional.

BRx8-You have an extremely cynical view of people. If it gives you comfort to live in a place where only the cops and crooks have guns, then Chicago is a good place.

The theory behind concealed carry hinges on another theory. That theory is that criminals evaluate the risks and potential payoffs before committing a crime. Without concealed carry, criminals know that no law abiding citizen is armed and therefore are soft targets. In states that allow concealed carry, the criminal has no idea who is armed, which means there are no more soft targets. This increases the perceived risks of committing interpersonal crimes. This leads to an increase in property crime and an increase in crime in neighboring states.

I can understand the apprehension some people feel about the idea of allowing people to carry concealed weapons. The process that it takes to get a permit, including being fingerprinted, is arduous enough to stymie the mildly interested.

left wrist: watch
left pocket: badge wallet
right pocket: keys, swiss army knife, cell phone

tangent to this thread: you should bear in mind that having a law against something simply means LAW ABIDING people won't do it. Having a law against carrying a firearm just means that law abiding people won't carry a firearm. Having a law against murder simply means law abiding people won't murder. It doesn't prevent morons or criminals from carrying a firearm or committing murder. Yes a law will mean there will be LESS people doing it, but the people it affects (the law abiding people) aren't the people who we should worry about ANYWAYs.

those are all very valid points...i grew up in the innercity in a fairly low class community so i do know the dangers inherent in some of these places (my dad was mugged right in front of our house and held at knifepoint)...

perhaps there are other means to defend yourself in dangerous situations such as rubber bullets or a tazer, at least something not as lethal should you decide to use your gun, or it accidentally goes off, or it intentionally goes off and you miss, or your child or someone close to you finds your gun in the house and decides to play with it...

like i've already said, i'm sure you all are very responsible adults, but there are quite a number of people that can and would abuse such power, like gangbangers...it may seem like i'm cynical but i've seen what some people can and will do to other people

i was once invited to this party in which the owners of house were all gang members (i didn't know before i went)...they all had licenses to possess a firearm and frequented the shooting range quite often...while i was there and they were all drunk and/or high, they decided to bust out their gats and act like gangsters...it was a VERY scary scene and i left instantaneously...

i'm not suggesting states disallow the possession of firearms, all i'm saying is, for myself, i'd rather not be around it, that's all...anyways, this is all really off-topic so i'll end this conversation on that note...

First, I'll answer the original question...

Starting from the top (assuming going out and about, not for work or partying or anything):
Gold Figaro Link Necklace... Haven't taken it off in over 10 years.
Right Finger... Great Grand Father's Zodiac Ring
Left Finger... Two Tone Stainless and Gold Wedding Band
Left Wrist... Watch (Bulova)
Left Side of Belt... Pager, Cell Phone
Right Side of Belt... Badge and Glock 27 (chambered in .40)
Left Front Pocket... Wallet and Car Keys
All Other Pockets... Empty

Now... On to the raging debate...

#1) I am a law enforcement officer.
#2) I live in a very pro-gun state (commonwealth, actually), Virginia, which has a "must issue" law, meaning unless the state can prove you are unfit (felon, drug user, domestic abuser, etc.) the state MUST issue you a permit to carry a concealed weapon.
#3) I fully support the decision of the Virginia legislature to enact the laws supporting number 2 above.

I am required by law to carry a firearm while in my home county (I work and live in the same county) and unofficially, yet strongly, encouraged to do so whenever I am within the borders of Virginia. Before I was accepted into the police academy I applied for, and recieved, a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

Why? Not dick waving. Partially because I enjoy exercising my constitutional rights (this in the only state in the country which outlaws radar detectors). Partially because I like to be able to respond to threats on my life or the lives of my loved ones. Partially because I know realistically that I've got a snowball's chance in heck of being "rescued" by the cops if I am getting mugged, abducted, murdered, or my wife is being drug into an alley to get raped. I've cleaned up enough of those scenes to know this.

Violent crime has decreased in Virginia after the "must issue" law was passed, as it has in every state which has done so.

I'd like to address a couple common myths that BRx8 posted.

Originally posted by BRx8

perhaps there are other means to defend yourself in dangerous situations such as rubber bullets or a tazer, at least something not as lethal should you decide to use your gun, or it accidentally goes off, or it intentionally goes off and you miss, or your child or someone close to you finds your gun in the house and decides to play with it...


Myth #1: People should not need guns, if they can use other, less lethal methods of stopping bad guys.

Rubber bullets or a tazer are not valid options for one simple reason: in every state in the union deadly force can only be used to combat deadly force. If I am getting mugged, and I shoot the mugger, I will go to jail. If someone is stealing my car, and I shoot them, I will go to jail. In Virginia (most of the country is very similar) the only reasons that deadly force can be used are: threat of loss of life of yourself or innocent bystanders, rape, and burglary.

It is for this very reason that police officers are trained NOT to fire warning shots or wounding shots. We are trained only to fire in the center of the chest, and to keep firing until the target stops threatening you. The theory is that if you are going to use your gun, the bad guy better be doing something bad enough that you have to use deadly force to protect yourself or others.

Myth #2: Guns go off by accident all the time and kill little 6 year olds playing cops and robbers.

Guns DO NOT accidently go off. The only reason that a gun will fire is if someone, or something pulls the trigger. This feeds into your next statement about kids or loved ones finding it. If a person has a gun in an environment where other people could access it, they are required BY LAW (in many states) to restrict access to it. Maryland, for one, has passed a law that all new firearms sold must include a trigger lock. I personally use a small gun safe in my bedroom closet.

Virginia is not the only state to have prosecuted people for criminally negligent homicide for leaving a gun in an area where other people could access it, if they pick it up and accidentally kill someone, or themselves.

like i've already said, i'm sure you all are very responsible adults, but there are quite a number of people that can and would abuse such power, like gangbangers...it may seem like i'm cynical but i've seen what some people can and will do to other people

Myth #3: Gun control laws reduce criminals' access to firearms.

Really, how many crack dealers do you think go down to the county court house or the sheriff's office to get fingerprinted for their concealed weapon permit?

They carry weapons illegally. And no law is going to stop them.

i was once invited to this party in which the owners of house were all gang members (i didn't know before i went)...they all had licenses to possess a firearm and frequented the shooting range quite often...while i was there and they were all drunk and/or high, they decided to bust out their gats and act like gangsters...it was a VERY scary scene and i left instantaneously...


Interesting. I just looked at the laws of the state of Illinois.

Other than the city of Chicago (which might as well be Great Britian for the personal freedoms it's residents enjoy) the state of Illinois does require a "Firearms Owner's Identification." However the state must issue a person a FOI if he or she:

Is over 21 years of age.
Has never been convicted of a felony.
Is not a narcotics addict.
Has not been a patient in a mental hospital in the preceding five years.
Is not mentally retarded.


Now if your gangbanger friends were not felons, over the age of 21, and were not narcotics addicts, and had applied for and recieved their FOIDs then they were legal. I'm not sure if that's what you mean by "they were all licenced to have a firearm." But if they didn't have their FOIDs then they weren't, and you should refer to #3 above.

Additionally, if you were within the city limits of Chicago, then they would have had to register the handgun before 1982. In 1982 the city of Chicago declared that they would not allow Chicago residents to register handguns. So, see #3 above.

Also, if they were not in their own homes, then they were carrying concealed, which is totally forbidden at all times, by all people, except "duly sworn active law enforcement officers...", so they were in illegal possession of a firearm. See #3 above.


i'm not suggesting states disallow the possession of firearms, all i'm saying is, for myself, i'd rather not be around it, that's all...anyways, this is all really off-topic so i'll end this conversation on that note...

Avoiding firearms is totally up to you and your right. If you can't tell this is an issue that is very near and dear to my heart. I am a fan of "Firearms Education." I don't care if people hate guns, as long as they are aware of all the facts and data. The anti-gun lobby relies on scare tacticts and emotion a lot more than the pro-gun people. We have statistics to back us up. :)

With this said, I'll drop it too, unless you want to continue.

Regards,
---A

well said. :)

I usually wear a condom when leaving the house instead of carrying one around.

Originally posted by BRx8
that's kinda the problem though, 93rdcurrent...i trust myself completely behind the wheel but what you can never trust is the other person on the same road...there are some really bad people out there that just don't give a f*** and if the law allows you to carry one, what's to say they aren't already packing? i think it just allows more people to obtain firearms which isn't a good thing...the more guns are out there, the more likely it is for people to get shot, or worse, the mroe likely it would be for little kids to get a hold of them and play with them...


The interesting thing about the above statement is that if you were to go states where there are very few CPLs issued like California there are a huge number of instances of road rage that often end up in shooting deaths. In all of these cases I have been able to find they were instances of illegally carried weapons. I highly doubt that any of the drive-by shootings that have taken place in the US were done by people with a CPL. In fact as I mentioned before Washington state has more than 250,000 CPLs issued. Apparently by taking guns out of law abiding citizens hands we are opening ourselves up to become victims of law breakers. The only thing that I would add to the current law in this state would be that I believe we should not only register ourselves for the CPL as it is today but we should also have to be certified with our current gun. This certification should include gun safety and shooting accuracy. If a kid can get a gun with no one watching them then is the problem the gun or the parenting style? I would certainly keep my guns in a safe when they weren't on my person especially with kids running around.

I am glad that you can be honest and say that you don't have the self-control to feel comfortable with carrying a gun. I would rather you not have one too. Feel rest assured that none of the people I have hung out with have had the slightest clue that I was carrying a gun when they were around me. It's not an ego thing where I feel that I have to flash it around. And in fact I would rather not have any criminals know that I am carrying since that is why I will have an advantage.

back on topic..

left pocket.. office keys, RX-8 key.
Right front pocket: 3" serrated/straight spyderco foldable knife. and my cell phone
Right back pocket wallet
left back pocket empty.
right hand.. college ring
left hand simple analog watch i got in italy

blahblah.

Face: glasses
Shirt pocket: sunglasses
Left pocket: wallet, pack of gum
Right pocket: change, 2 pens
Belt left: personal phone
Belt right: work phone
Knee pocket: cigarettes, lighter
Front belt loop: keychain beaner with keys

livitup, good points and while i have many more things to say about this topic, my original intent is not to change anyone's mind on it, but simply to lay down my own opinion which i've alread done, so i don't think there's much more to say...i'll just add one more statement and answer one of your questions...

about the gangbangers, yes they each had a FOID card and they all lived in one house...there are 4 roommates in a townhome and they each one had 2-3 guns of their own, i believe they were all glocks...i have 5 friends with FOID cards and 3 that have actually purchased a firearm...i know the process by which to obtain a FOID card and that's to fill out a registration "card", send it in with a fee, and wait for the card to come in...with all that "work" you get one in about 30 days...again, that is probably against our constitutional rights having to require this card to possess a firearm but that's an entirely different topic which i really have no opinions on...but the fact is, to obtain this FOID card, you require no training...

you, however, are a police enforcement officer, you have gone through rigorous training on the use, or like you put it, how to not use one...and while my friends excerise all instances of safety with their firearms, some will not, and that's what is frightening...

anyways, i do not have a FOID card but i have fired off a few...i guess in that instance, what i was doing was illegal ;) ...it was fun and perhaps one day i will own one of my own and have it for display...

Phone
Laptop
keys
sunglasses
cigarettes (don't smoke in the car)
wallet
PDA
Oil 5w-20
Meguiar's Quick Detail (birds and pollen)
Microfibre towels
I have a license to carry a gun, but rarely do, I don't have children either, but I usually don't keep it loaded.
I usually contain my shooting to FPS games like Medal of Honor.

Keys to my time machine...i'd hate to be stuck here.

Originally posted by Optitron
Keys to my time machine...i'd hate to be stuck here.

is this you?

http://www.johntitor.com/

http://www.johntitor.com/

sounds like he was here on business, i'm here for the women.

bump

My engagement/wedding rings and my Treo 600. Even when I'm in the shower, they're sitting right outside.

Originally posted by BRx8
when i went to Minnesota i saw signs up at the malls and clubs asking not to bring firearms into the place...i thought that was kinda weird considering it's illegal to carry weapons in Illinois...and while i'm pretty sure there are some very dangerous places here especially the ghetto in the innercity, i've never felt compelled to carry a firearm

besides, i have too much stuff on me as it is...i could always beat him to death with my cellphone!

We have a new Conceal Carry Law in effect and Businesses have to display that sign to make it known to people that are not aware of the laws.

Originally posted by ivyrose
My engagement/wedding rings and my Treo 600. Even when I'm in the shower, they're sitting right outside.

you're married? this is a truly, TRULY sad day in the history of RX8Club...:(

hmm...

neck: amethyst crystal necklace
right middle finger: silver plain band ring
left ankle: copper anklet

Not very much considering I'm a girl I guess.. x.x

Bump - for no particular reason other than it was the oldest subscribed thread in my queue and Kari had the last post.

left wrist 2 rubber green bracelets.
thats about it haha i have a bad habbit of never taking my wallet down from the car.

up until about 6 months ago i carried my wallet in my front pocket now i switch back and forth. i wear tighter pants now so its more comfortable (and looks better) in my back pocket.

My wacky weed... :D

I try not to carry too many things with me.
Left wrist - watch
Left pocket - money clip and the 8's credit card key
right pocket - Cell and if it's a work day my work pass...

I like how it doesn't seem like I'm carrying anything in my pockets...

Front Rt pocket: RX8 Keys, house keys, change/small bills, sometimes keys to the GFs miata
Front Lft pocket: Cell phone
5th Pocket: Bronze Zippo lighter (I quit smoking but still carry it for good luck)
Back Rt Pocket: Wallet
BackLft pocket: Misc. small papers (notes to self, time slips from track, ATM statements)

Left wrist: Silver Bulova watch (Grad. present)
Ears: Sergical steel 8g tunnels
Feet: Adidas Goodyear Monico's in white/tan/black. Wear them 95% of the time for 2 years now, GREAT driving shoes.

If the criteria are:

1. At ALL times except when sleeping
2. Besides clothes

Then I carry absolutely nothing but a smile.

Carried hardware is always task-specific.

my earrings and my tattoo. :)

If the criteria are:

1. At ALL times except when sleeping
2. Besides clothes

Then I carry absolutely nothing but a smile.

Carried hardware is always task-specific.


3. Besides birthday suit :rolleyes:

It'd be my purse... keys, 2 cell phones (mine and work), sun glasses, reading glasses, money, credit cards, driver's license and insurance card, work ID and parking pass, gum, pens, comb/mirror, lip-gloss.

Ankle bracelet, three rings, wrist bracelet, necklace, two tattoos - if we're counting what I'm not carrying. Cell phone, iPod, license, keys, and credit cards for what's carried.

^Don't forget your cookies. :D

^Don't forget your cookies. :D

Nah, those only come out for certain individuals. You, of course, would be one of those individuals. :)

Nah, those only come out for certain individuals. You, of course, would be one of those individuals. :)
Ahhh, that's sweet! I missed you guys. :grouphug:

Hey cutie.

3. Besides birthday suit :rolleyes:

And as a matter of fact, my birthday suit still fits perfectly! :)

Hey cutie.

And as a matter of fact, my birthday suit still fits perfectly! :)

Hey sweetie :kiss:

Mine fits perfectly too, but it needs ironing in a few places :rolleyes: :p:

head: Vintage Yankees Ball cap....been in the family for decades ((cept at work or in uniform))

Neck: St. Christopher Pendant Necklace

Left Wrist: Watch and my Green support the troops band

Right Wrist: Livestrong band

Front L Pocket: Key Ring....literally a key ring...14 keys on that thing...killer....5 car keys ((6,8,sebring,ranger,z24)), apartment key ((w/ an additional mailbox key and pool key)), my house key, uncles house key, Gym locker key, P.O box key, door key for work, and some random key im not sure what for...then I have a compass among other things on the ring

Front R Pocket: Cell Phone, Gum, $2.00 in change ((1 in quarters,.50 in dimes, .40 in knickles, .10 pennies))

Back L Pocket: Notes, ATM receipts or debit purchases, and my Catholic Card with the Apostle's Creed on one side and the Act of Contrition on the other

Back R Pocket: Wallet...thick as hell by design...I literally have $0 in it all the time but it looks like I must have a stack of bills in there...remember girls sometimes just because your boyfriend needs a wallet doesn't mean he needs one designed in the 1940's from the $1 discount bin


.............

If I am without one of these things...I cannot function

^^ OMG... How much does all that stuff weigh? Maybe your car would go faster if you left some of it at home :rolleyes:

I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.