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Rx8, 350Z & C5 doubestandard?
Seems strange that the 'C5 vs Rx8' thread is moved to 'general automotive' but other identically themed comparison threads like the popular '350Z vs Rx8' thread(s) is allowed in 'Rx8 Discussion'
I'm confused - can someone explain why we can compare and contrast Rx8s vs 350Z but not vs C5s in this forum? I seem to be missing the difference.
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26344
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25795
thanks,
zoom44 04-21-2004, 06:53 PM seems strange that you should be so concerned about as to think there is some double standard employed on purpose
cueball 04-21-2004, 06:54 PM In the C5 thread, it is only the Corvette that is being discussed. That is exactly what General Automotive is for.
The 350Z vs. RX8 is discussing the RX8 as well as the Z.
jonnyb 04-21-2004, 07:07 PM its because the rx8 and z are comparable. the vette owns both of them.
I didn't mean to seem strange - just want to understand the rules and follow them - also I have the expectation that my posts are treated consistently and fairly w/ respect to how others posts are treated. The oringal post in the 350Z thread is not that different from my initial post and has been there for almost a week and is still there. My post lasted mere minutes before being moved.
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Originally posted by cueball
In the C5 thread, it is only the Corvette that is being discussed. That is exactly what General Automotive is for.
The 350Z vs. RX8 is discussing the RX8 as well as the Z.
That is incorrect.
"8" or "Rx8" was mentioned perhaps 8 or 10 times or better the 2nd time I posted.
I personally mentioned the Rx8's fuel efficiency, torque, price range, styling, form factor, rear seats, relative weight, weight distribution.
I (erroneously?) figured that it is logical on an Rx8 forum when comparing and contrasting the Rx8 to most any other car model that the onus is on the author etc to bring add'l information regarding the 'other' model. To that end I supplied more info on the C5. The presumption being that already a reasonable knowledge regarding the Rx8 can be generally presumed.
Am I to presume that if some predetermined threshold of additional Rx8 content is added to the post beyond what is there presently that the thread will again be moved back to 'Rx8 Discussion'?
I respectfully request re-read the 'moved' 'C5 vs Rx8' thread.
thanks,
zoom44 04-21-2004, 07:48 PM dont presume anything. it's moved now and wont be moved back so what would be the point of re-reading it.
The purpose in re-reading is because the reasons cited were in error. That should be plainly in evidence by reading the post as well as other similar threads allowed.
As it stands now it appears to be treated differently than 10s perhaps 100s of other similar threads that are allowed in the Rx8 Discussion forum.
livitup 04-21-2004, 08:30 PM Shouldn't this be moved to lounge or something? :)
zoom44 04-21-2004, 08:42 PM you think the reasons are in error, the mods don't. end of story. the persecution complex isn't healthy. let it go. noone is picking on YOUR thread.
Originally posted by zoom44
you think the reasons are in error, the mods don't. end of story. the persecution complex isn't healthy. let it go. noone is picking on YOUR thread.
"think"? That is incorrect. I stated factually that Rx8s were implicitly and explicitly discussed in the thread. A mod disagreed. I provided a link to the thread in which ANYONE can click into and see for themselves - The post is there for ANYONE to read and see that in fact Rx8s WERE (contrary to what a mod erroneously stated) discussed.
FACT: Rx8s were explicitly and implicitly discussed and I was inviting and desiring to here from more Rx8 owners that may be in a position to comment on both models.
FACT: Other essentially identical threads exist in this same forum in which Rx8s are explicitly and implicitly compared and contrasted to other models of vehicles.
FACT: These other threads are allowed to exist unmoved for days, weeks, months and indeed indefinately.
FACT: I inquired about comparisons between '04 C5 Coupes and Rx8s and the post was moved within minutes.
There is no persecution complex - merely an observation of verifiable FACTS - merely a polite and respectful request to understand an aparent discrepency in how standards are being applied to the recent 'C5 vs Rx8' thread compared to an apparent de-facto standard that has been applied to others.
It is apparent that you yourself have suddenly become defensive perhaps because no reasonable rationale for the difference in treatment has been presented? I simply don't know.
Perhaps there is a reasonable or even nuanced rationale for treating the discussion on 'Rx8s vs C5s' differently than so many other Rx8 vs 'xxx' threads...? I'm still patiently and respectfully awaiting an answer w/o a persecution complex so that in the future we all can learn where to post comparisons between Rx8s. Currently on the surface it just seems that certain models can be compared on Rx8 Discussion and other makes must be discussed in 'General'...???
What is "unhealthy" I submit is the apparentl difference in how this thread has been treated w/o a factually correct rationale.
downshift 04-21-2004, 09:01 PM I think all the vs. threads should go to the lounge and join the other vs. threads like rx8 vs. sonic the hedgehog, rx8 vs. your momma, rx8 vs. rx8. I don't see any difference between any of them either.
:D
Ding ding ding! to 'Downshift'!
Don't selectively single out a 'C5 vs Rx8' thread for unsubstantiated reasons - move 'em all or leave 'em be!
Thanks for the sanity check!
zoom44 04-21-2004, 09:43 PM Originally posted by pgtr
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defensive maybe. what i dislike about this is that every so often someone comes on the forum and bitches about how a mod treated "their" thread and then goes on to point out how other threads by other people weren't treated in the same fashion. this person will then come up with some rationale as to why his/her thread was treated that way. then they whine about how unfair it is that they got singled out. are the mods people that can occasionally make a mistake? sure. do we purposefully go around picking on threads that are just about this car or that car? no! you know why? most of them don't have the friggin time nor would any of these mods if they did. we simply do not operate that way and any insinuation or direct charge that we would pisses me off! if we did find a mod doing what you are saying we would deal with it but no one is. proof in point- if we were to pick on threads having to do with any particular car it would be 350Z threads! there have been like 900 of them. so there is no bias against you or the c5. just do a friggin search using corvette and find how many times it has been mentioned. when i did that search for you it came up in like 30 threads. your continued effort in this thread is just damn offensive. you didn't like the response? you know what?you dont have to! we're not here to make things "fair" for YOU. want to discuss it furthur with cueball?use the PM system. still feel like you were treated unfairly? PM Boostd 7. i'm sure he'd like to hear it. as far as the 350z thread goes it probably should be move and should probaly also be locked as it is just rambling on now with no real purpose. but hey i am not the mod of this section so it's their call.
Originally posted by zoom44
defensive maybe. what i dislike about this is that every so often someone comes on the forum and bitches about how a mod treated "their" thread and then goes on to point out how other threads by other people weren't treated in the same fashion. this person will then come up with some rationale as to why his/her thread was treated that way. then they whine about how unfair it is that they got singled out. are the mods people that can occasionally make a mistake? sure. do we purposefully go around picking on threads that are just about this car or that car? no! you know why? most of them don't have the friggin time nor would any of these mods if they did. we simply do not operate that way and any insinuation or direct charge that we would pisses me off! if we did find a mod doing what you are saying we would deal with it but no one is. proof in point- if we were to pick on threads having to do with any particular car it would be 350Z threads! there have been like 900 of them. so there is no bias against you or the c5. just do a friggin search using corvette and find how many times it has been mentioned. when i did that search for you it came up in like 30 threads. your continued effort in this thread is just damn offensive. you didn't like the response? you know what?you dont have to! we're not here to make things "fair" for YOU. want to discuss it furthur with cueball?use the PM system. still feel like you were treated unfairly? PM Boostd 7. i'm sure he'd like to hear it. as far as the 350z thread goes it probably should be move and should probaly also be locked as it is just rambling on now with no real purpose. but hey i am not the mod of this section so it's their call.
While every so often 'someone comes along' there is no call to hold past experiences against someone.
If I had noticed that anotehr post was moved while my similar/identical post was left alone - I would be JUST as concerned. Of course I do have a vested interest in 'my' post but only in so far as it is treated fairly and consistently w/ respect to how others are treated.
I've observed what 'appears' to be an inconsistency - that is all. And I've respectuflly asked why.
I don't know of the 'whining' and 'bitching' reference has a point or is particularly constructive but I have tried to provide FACTS and ask a simple question - the answer to which should benefit every member on this forum.
It's unfortunate you find my inquiry offensive - it was not meant to be - merely a statement of facts and a polite and respectful request as to why the action was taken.
I've been careful to stick to the FACTS and have chosen my words carefully and used terms like 'appears' to be inconsistent etc. I used a '?' in the subject as well. The FACTS support the 'apparent' incongruity but hey, maybe there is an underlying reason that is not obvious to me but should be...
It's not JUST the 350Z thread vs the C5 thread - there are in fact and have been since I started frequenting this board - many many many countless threads that can be classified as 'Rx8 vs xxx'. A simple search renders pages of similar comparisons and contrasts in this specific forum alone! Again, not my opinion - just another observable FACT.
Elara 04-22-2004, 01:19 PM Good frickin grief. I moved the post because it discussed the C5 more than the RX-8. The RX-8 Vs 350Z post reads more about the RX-8 than anything else, at least at first. Titles have nothing to do with it. I judged it as best I could, moved it as I deemed appropriate, just to AVOID this kind of thing. I actually read the content of the posts instead of blindly moving things around based on the thread title. Seems I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't. And this is a REALLY stupid thing to argue about.
And this should have been posted in Suggestions or the Lounge, which is where I'm moving it to now.
Meowloud 04-22-2004, 01:22 PM WHOO HOOO! Lounge Lizards get a shot at this one!!
Four words:
Paranoia will destroy 'ya!
(This is like musical chairs.. yet should be musical thread!!)
Winning_BlueRX8 04-22-2004, 01:25 PM This thread is offensive.
So anyways, me and this riced out civic are at a red light...
Meowloud 04-22-2004, 01:28 PM Originally posted by Winning_BlueRX8
This thread is offensive.
So anyways, me and this riced out civic are at a red light...
So how were those teeth during the burn-out? You didn't clinch them hard did you?
Razpewton 04-22-2004, 01:37 PM The thread should be renamed "Extreme Verbosity and Juxtaposed Intricate Affiliations"
:D :D
Winning_BlueRX8 04-22-2004, 01:54 PM Originally posted by Meowloud
So how were those teeth during the burn-out? You didn't clinch them hard did you?
i just wanted a mod to delete this thread for street racing.
Meowloud 04-22-2004, 01:58 PM Originally posted by Winning_BlueRX8
i just wanted a mod to delete this thread for street racing.
I could definitely see you wanted it gone... want to tell us your racing story?
guy321 04-22-2004, 02:03 PM I raced a kid on a bike the other day!!!
I was at the light and as soon as it turned green I took off.
I had like 20 car lenthggs on him , but then he stopped pedaling!
Speed-ER doc 04-22-2004, 02:43 PM Originally posted by guy321
I raced a kid on a bike the other day!!!
I was at the light and as soon as it turned green I took off.
I had like 20 car lenthggs on him , but then he stopped pedaling!
Then he zoomed past you in a blur, then you caught up and passed him, then..... (suspender joke).
The ultimate humiliation...having your thread moved to the lounge. :D
Meowloud 04-22-2004, 02:51 PM Originally posted by Speed-ER doc
The ultimate humiliation...having your thread moved to the lounge. :D
I wonder if your post count goes down??
allstate 04-22-2004, 02:54 PM pgtr...let it go man....let it go...
allstate 04-22-2004, 03:16 PM And what's so wrong with the lounge anyways? That's where all the cool people are. :D
911SC 04-22-2004, 03:47 PM Do they serve beer in the lounge?
Speed-ER doc 04-22-2004, 03:48 PM BYOB :D
downshift 04-22-2004, 04:51 PM Can you say, hijack? :D
Meowloud 04-22-2004, 05:19 PM Originally posted by downshift
Can you say, hijack? :D
Yep, that's the idea! :D
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