Simple,yet effective.

:)

i like them, im wishing i ordered those when i got the rest of my bulbs now!

bad pic, but here are my clear corners w/red lights and the super white led running lights. headlights caught the flash and it looks like crap, oh well

Look good, Preacher! :D

Where did you guys order these from? http://www.superbrightleds.com/1157.htm <<---????

they look awesome

I got most of my bulbs here:
http://autolumination.com/7443_7440.htm
including the 7443 red 9-LEDs,of which I accidentally bought a second set of,and which Omi should have in and installed by Friday ;)

At least, I hope to get 'em in that quick. :D

I have a similar install from the same supplier as you do Preacher. Only difference is, I got amber LED side corners since red are not legal here. I love the front super white 194 LED running lights, pics just cannot do it justice. They are so nice and bright with just a litttle blue hue that they are unique looking when viewed at night.

If I have one complaint about the brake/tail light LEDs vs. the incadescents, they are just a bit darker and more directional but, then again, so are the silvered bulbs that I replaced all of the rear lamps and front turn signals with too. At night, they are excellent, during high sun light, they can be hard to see. However, one light I left incadescent is the 3rd brake lamp, everyone sees that one light up since it's higher than the other two.

hey those lights goods great, but how can u change the one that is at the front by the head lights, do u have to take the whole head light unite out? thanks

Parking lights are 194s-I got 6-LED SuperWhites for mine :D

Originally posted by rx-81688
hey those lights goods great, but how can u change the one that is at the front by the head lights, do u have to take the whole head light unite out? thanks

The one on the driver's side can be reached from under the hood without removeing anything. The one on the passenger side can be reached after you take the cover off of the ECU which sets in the way. Both are a tight squeeze.

Originally posted by Preacher
Parking lights are 194s-I got 6-LED SuperWhites for mine :D

What brand are they?

they came from here http://autolumination.com

They do not come packaged as if in a store. My guess is they buy them by the bulk and sell them by the order. The "stealth" style lamps are Chrome Silver Vision by Sylvania. I've had both for well over a month, all that I prurchased from them came in in good shape and working just fine. The best way to describe this product is as if it were an OEM product.

Autoillumination's bulbs are definately bought in bulk.
I have their 9-LED 7440s in my brake/tails,and they look so awesome that I just ordered 6-LED SuperWhites for my parking lights,single-LED SW's for my door lights and 9-LED SuperWhites for my reverse lights. :)
They deliver quick-bet I have mine by Thursday from AZ>ME....

Originally posted by D MENAC 7
The one on the driver's side can be reached from under the hood without removeing anything. The one on the passenger side can be reached after you take the cover off of the ECU which sets in the way. Both are a tight squeeze.


i can reach my drivers, but not my passengers. i asked about it in this thread (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25392) and apparently you can reach them from the wheel well much easier. i broke my replacement bulb, so i have yet to try from there again.

Originally posted by kellybrf
i can reach my drivers, but not my passengers. i asked about it in this thread (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25392) and apparently you can reach them from the wheel well much easier. i broke my replacement bulb, so i have yet to try from there again. If you are going through the wheel well and you are planning on changing out the turn signals, do it then. It's tight, even through the wheel well. When I changed out my turn signal lamps for chrome ones, I had to have my 15 year old do it because he has smaller hands. I have big paws. I had no trouble once removing the ECU cover reaching the running lights on the passenger side from under the hood.

D,
What's the best way to get those pesky dome bulbs out?
I have chrome ones for them,but they don't look very accessable.
Any words o' wisdom?

If you are talking about the 194 map lights which are next to the moon roof controls up front, you take ouut the two screws up inside the eye glass holder. The whole unit pulls out and I know it feels like it's not wanting to come out because there are two clamps at the back side but if you pull just a bit harder the whole unit comes right out. This is the ONLY way to get them out. When you get the unit out the lamp sockets are removable by turning them to the left about a 1/4 turn then they come out. Pull out the old lkamp, put in the new one and reverse the whole process. I will say one thing. This will render your map lighhts useless. The amount of light that is cut down is at least 70% or more with the chromed 194s. I eventually went with bright white 194s and put in a coupld of single LEDs which I drilled out the holes for that I use for cruising night lights.

what's the difference between the 7440 and 7443 bulbs?

Originally posted by D MENAC 7
If you are talking about the 194 map lights which are next to the moon roof controls up front, you take ouut the two screws up inside the eye glass holder. The whole unit pulls out and I know it feels like it's not wanting to come out because there are two clamps at the back side but if you pull just a bit harder the whole unit comes right out. This is the ONLY way to get them out. When you get the unit out the lamp sockets are removable by turning them to the left about a 1/4 turn then they come out. Pull out the old lkamp, put in the new one and reverse the whole process. I will say one thing. This will render your map lighhts useless. The amount of light that is cut down is at least 70% or more with the chromed 194s. I eventually went with bright white 194s and put in a coupld of single LEDs which I drilled out the holes for that I use for cruising night lights.

So are the side marker and other headlights (the little ones) 194s also?

Want to make sure I get the right thing, and I think the posts in this thread refer to them as being 194s.

yes, they are. the blinkers are 7440s

Thanks for the info, I've got some work to do tonight.

Originally posted by roboracer
what's the difference between the 7440 and 7443 bulbs? 7440s are single contact lamps such as the reverse and turn signals lamps. 7443 have dual filaments (if they were incadescent) in that they are brighter when stepping on the brake.

2004 MAZDA RX-8 BULB CODE LIST

Headlights-Halogen High Beam-(2) H9 OR #9005
Headlights-Halogen Low Beam (Non-Xenon-Equipped Cars)-(2) H7
Headlights-Xenon Low Beam-(2) D2S 35W
Halogen Foglights-(2) H11
F/R Blinkers-(4)7440
Brake/Tail-(2)7443
Reverse bulbs(2)-7440
Running Lights,Rear(two on each red corner)(4,total)-194
Fr.Corner Markers,f(2)-194
Map Lights,interior(2)-194
Lower Door Lights(2)-194
Parking Lights(small lights on front nearest Mazda logo)(2)-194
Lisc plate light (1)-194


Best deals I found on bulbs is here:
http://autolumination.com/7443_7440.htm

Great info, that should be a sticky somewhere.


Completely unrelated....black headliner?

Where did that come from, got pics?

thanx for the info DMENAC7 & Preacher

The black headliner's to go w my new leather seats.
I despise the nasty gray liner,this is an upgrade,goes w my new seats,black pearl chromed badges,and tint.....

Where does one come across a black headliner?

^^^I'm with him^^^ Where can you get a black headliner?

Mine came from the folks that are doing the CST leather seats, cost was $235.

Care to post some pictures about that custom headliner? Maybe in the pictures/multimedia section?
Also, did they remove/reinstall the headliner for you or did you do it yourself?

(sorry for the thread hijacking)

It's all (leather,tint,badges,headliner) being done while I'm in Europe next week,I'll gladly post pics when I return and get it back from the shop.

Speaking of 3rd brake light... What's the trick to getting the inside trim (under the trunk lid) off? The screw/pop out retainers were no problem. It's that handle you use to pull the trunk lid down that won't let the trim come off. I don't want to ruin the appearance by prying too much. How do you get that thing off?

Get all the screw off is ok. Yes you have to pull the handle down.... do not worry it click back right into the position.

I recently installed the 15LED at the rear brake light. I got it from autoilumination.com and there are 6 side LED +9 in front to make a matrix (more more confluent) look.

I love it.

Question to Dennis: Have you try a 9LED or 15LED Red to the 3rd brake light logo? Do you think it is worth?

I have found the spec of the LED bulb

Bulb/colour/intensity/angle

194 6led focused lens/ White /39000/55 Degrees
194 4led focused lens/ White /26000/45 Degrees
194 5LED Matrix / White / 46000 / 270 Degrees

7440 9led /White /79000/ 45 degrees
7440 15led /White / 120000 / 270 degrees
7443 9led /Red /77000/ 45 degrees
7443 15led /Red / 77000/ 270 degrees


7440 15led /Amber /120000/ 270 degrees
7443 15led /White / 79000/ 270 degrees

7440 9LED / Red/ 77000/ 45 degrees
7443 15led / Red / 77000 / 270 degrees

Looking at the list.

Do you think the 7440 Amber 15LED as a side marker??? That will be VERY BRIGHT!!! :eek:

And the 15LED White reverse light?? Oh my :eek:

I will have to go revisit their site to see the 15 LED bulb, didn't know there was one of those out yet and that sound interesting.

I didn't try the LED in the third brake light because I thought that it would provide too much directional light which would have centered even more on the logo and lens. However, the 15 LED that you are describing sounds like I might take a look at that one. Thanks, Taka! :D

The side marker is a 194 and I think that the 15 LED white if it is like the red one you posted earlier, might be better for the 3rd brake light. You wouuld have to bend the wires over to get all of them to light up bright. I am going to check these out right now.

...You wouuld have to bend the wires over to get all of them to light up bright. I am going to check these out right now.

Why and how to bend it over? Are they made that way already?

I don't understand Dennis...

Don't you found the red one safer for the for 3rd logo... i hate to spend $12 and find out it makes the brake light white :p

15 LED is out and i have it - it is great

There is no way to make the 3rd brake light white unless you removed the red lens in front of the LED lamp. The brake light/tail lght lamp has 4 contacts, 2 are ground (- negative) and 2 are power (+). When this is used in a non brake light/tail light socket (Such as is the 3rd brake light) to get the LEDs to light up as bright as possible youu have to combine the two positves and negatives. I believe there is a link on the autoilumination web site describing this.

I looked at the 15 LED array earlier and think that is a better idea than the 9 LED for the brake light/tail light lamp. I currently have the 9 LEDs in mine and it could be brighter with this 15 LED array since there is a reflector lens in the brake light/tail light assembyly. This would provide more light for the daytime. My other lamps, the reverse and turn signal I used the chrome style. They are darker than I would like, however, I am thinking about that 15 LED for the reverse light, just as a test. I am going to get the 15 LED array in white for the 3rd brake light to do a test on it and see what it is like using that lamp. I also have an idea as to how to disperse the lamp better across the entire red lens I might try at the same time. I'll keep things posted.

Thanks for the infor. :D

wahhh i didnt bother reading everyone's comments but i want a set too!!!

Update: Taka, when I replied I didn't realize there was a 7440 in the 15 LED array so there is no reason to have to bend the wires over. Disregard.

Damn you I was chasing Chris at autolumination's tail asking the same question :p

So all the other tail bulbs are 7440?? Only the tail/brake light is 7443?

Damn you I was chasing Chris at autolumination's tail asking the same question :p

So all the other tail bulbs are 7440?? Only the tail/brake light is 7443? Yes because the brake/tail light lamp is the only dual purpose lamp where it has to be lit at a lower level for tail lights but has to get bright for brake light. The turn signals both rear and front are 7440. The reverse lights and the 3rd brake light lamps are 7740. The running lights up front closeset to the Mazda emblem in the head light clusters are 194s as well as are the corner lamps. The lamps inside the doors are 194s as are the map lights. The map light lamps will hot hold a 5 LED 194, I tried and these are too large in diameter to get through the openings into the reflector lenses. The lamp that is in the center of the ceiling, is some kind of Festoon dome bulb, not sure which one but saw it on an earlier thread.

Festoon is 31mm long

Dennis do you think it is a good look to change all bulbs LED at the back?

I personally didn't do it. I only put in the brake/tail light 9 LEDs. However, with the 15 LED array, I ordered one white and one amber, I also ordered two red ones to put in the brake/tail lamp to change out the 9 LED ones in there now. I am going to take a look after they come in and if I like them, I will buy the other two to change them out. I have the chromed lamps in there now and am concerned about them being bright enough. I know the reverse light at night is dimmer than I like however, my rear windows are tinted at 20%.

ic...

15 LED superwhite will bind poeple eyes for sure ;) j.k

The amber is in white when unlided, so it is kinna a shealth bulb and if it works well it is a very good alternative and I will order one for the front blinkers as well. Side markers are ok and no need to change them. I think I change all the 194 in the car too, including the license plate at the back which have the blue vision (slightly yellow/slightly blue) ... I maybe wasting my money there :p

Simple,yet effective.

That is so much cooler than gold headlamps. Blue headlamps perhaps?

ic...

15 LED superwhite will bind poeple eyes for sure ;) j.k

The amber is in white when unlided, so it is kinna a shealth bulb and if it works well it is a very good alternative and I will order one for the front blinkers as well. Side markers are ok and no need to change them. I think I change all the 194 in the car too, including the license plate at the back which have the blue vision (slightly yellow/slightly blue) ... I maybe wasting my money there :p

So you changed the license plate lamp before? I remember when I pulled it to get power to my white neon license plate mod it was not easy. I used needle nosed plyers with duct tape reversed on them to get a good enough grip to pull it, that sucker was stuck in there tight. The white LED 194 I have in the front puts out quite a light. The translucent lens keeps the light from projecting out the front and it sort of has a bluish cast to it. I have always liked LEDs and was going that route when I first started changing but was afraid that the angle wouldn't be good for turn signals and now that they have a 270 degree angle lamp, this might be the way to go. :D Besides, LEDs should last for up to 20 years with the use they will get as a blinker or running light.

Yeah... I did it. I dunno whether to do it again and risk to crack the bumper. It is whiter than normal and I don't want cops to see it say "hay that is different" and I have a personalised plate as well. I may leave it for now but will change the mirror, 2 on the door.

Talking about tough getting it out. How about the parking lights in teh front... they are real PITA!

Tell me about it! I did it by taking off the ECU cover on the passenger side, I could reach the driver side without a lot of difficulty. Have you changed the front turn signals ever? If you want to talk about cussing.....grrrrrrrr I had to have my 15 year old stick his little hand in there and do it, I have big hands and fingers and I couldn't even get close.

I did the same thing the same way for the front parking light although the ECU cover is on the driver's side ;) I found lighten it up and see the light putting it in is much easier than doing it blind :cool:

I thought you change the turning blinkers from the wheel guard?

I did the same thing the same way for the front parking light although the ECU cover is on the driver's side ;) I found lighten it up and see the light putting it in is much easier than doing it blind :cool:

I thought you change the turning blinkers from the wheel guard?The ECU on the US model is on the passenger side because we are in the northern hemisphere! :D All you south of the equator dudes drive backwards. ;)

Yes, you do get to the front turn signals from the wheel wells but, that was still too tight for me.

Who is weird...

Right hand drive countries

Anguilla
Antigua & Barbuda
Australia
Bahamas
Bangladesh
Barbados
Bermuda
Bhutan
Bophuthatswana
Botswana
British Virgin Islands
Brunei
Cayman Islands
Channel Islands
Ciskei
Cyprus
Dominica
Falkland Islands
Fiji
Grenada
Guyana
Hong Kong
India
Indonesia
Ireland
Jamaica
Japan
Kenya
Lesotho
Macau
Malawi
Malaysia
Malta
Mauritius
Montserrat
Mozambique
Namibia
Nepal
New Zealand
Pakistan
Papua New Guinea
St. Vincent & Grenadines
Seychelles
Sikkim
Singapore
Solomon Islands
Somalia
South Africa
Sri Lanka
St Kitts & Nevis
St. Helena
St. Lucia
Surinam
Swaziland
Tanzania
Thailand
Tonga
Trinidad and Tobago
Uganda
United Kingdom
US Virgin Islands
Venda
Zambia
Zimbabwe

Left hand drive countries

R Afghanistan
R Albania
R Algeria
R American Samoa
R Andorra
R Angola
R Argentina
R Armenia
R Aruba
R Austria
R Azerbaijan
R Bahrain
R Belarus
R Belgium
R Belize
R Benin
R Bolivia
R Bosnia and Herzegovina
R Brazil
R British Indian Ocean Territory (Diego Garcia)
R Bulgaria
R Burkina Faso
R Burundi
R Cambodia
R Cameroon
R Canada
R Cape Verde
R Central African Republic
R Chad
R Chile
R China, People's Republic of (Mainland China)
R Colombia
R Comoros
R Congo
R Costa Rica
R Croatia
R Cuba
R Czech Republic
R Denmark
R Djibouti
R Dominican Republic
R Ecuador
R Egypt
R El Salvador
R Equatorial Guinea
R Eritrea
R Estonia
R Ethiopia
R Faroe Islands (Denmark)
R Finland
R France
R French Guiana
R French Polynesia
R Gabon
R Gambia, The
R Gaza Strip
R Georgia
R Germany
R Ghana
R Gibraltar
R Greece
R Greenland
R Guadeloupe (French West Indies)
R Guam
R Guatemala
R Guinea
R Guinea-Bissau
R Haiti
R Honduras
R Hungary
R Iceland
R Iran
R Iraq
R Israel
R Italy
R Ivory Coast
R Jordan
R Kazakhstan
R Korea, Democratic People's Republic of (North Korea)
R Korea, Republic of (South Korea)
R Kuwait
R Kyrgyzstan
R Laos
R Latvia
R Lebanon
R Liberia
R Libya
R Liechtenstein
R Lithuania
R Luxembourg
R Macedonia
R Madagascar
R Mali
R Marshall Islands
R Martinique (French West Indies)
R Mauritania
R Mayotte (France)
R Mexico
R Micronesia, Federated States of
R Midway Islands (USA)
R Moldova
R Monaco
R Mongolia
R Morocco
R Myanmar (Burma)
R Netherlands
R Netherlands Antilles (Curacao, St. Maarten, St. Eustatius, Saba)
R New Caledonia
R Nicaragua
R Niger
R Nigeria
R Northern Mariana Islands (Saipan)
R Norway
R Oman
R Palau
R Panama
R Paraguay
R Peru
R Philippines
R Poland
R Portugal
R Puerto Rico
R Qatar
R Reunion
R Romania
R Russia
R Rwanda
R Saint Barthélemy (French West Indies)
R Saint Martin (French West Indies)
R Saint Pierre and Miquelon (France)
R Samoa
R San Marino
R Sao Tome e Principe
R Saudi Arabia
R Senegal
R Sierra Leone
R Slovakia
R Slovenia
R Somalia (a parts of Somalia, Somaliland, drives on the left)
R Spain
R Sudan
R Svalbard (Norway)
R Sweden
R Switzerland
R Syria
R Taiwan
R Tajikistan
R Togo
R Tunisia
R Turkey
R Turkmenistan
R Ukraine
R United Arab Emirates
R United States
R Uruguay
R Uzbekistan
R Vanuatu
R Venezuela
R Vietnam
R Wake Island (USA)
R Wallis and Futuna Islands [Fr.]
R West Bank
R Western Sahara (ex Spanish Sahara)
R Yemen
R Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro)
R Zaire

:cool:

Dang Taka, I was just kidding. :D

Does anyone know what size the ashtray light bulb is? I'm doing some surgery for an XM roady install, and I was thinking about a red or blue backlight for the receiver...

Pretty sure it's a 194, but I could be wrong.

I am thinking of taking the one in the ashtray out... but HOW?

It is getting too hot in there!

I have the 15 LED Brake lights and they are %100 better then the 9led's I had before. I have Red 194 6LED lights coming to replace the map light's they are the same config as the 15 leds. I also ordered new 194 6 leds for the front parking lights. I a reluctant to do the turn signals because they require the adapter to get them to work right.

Nat

I have the 15 LED Brake lights and they are %100 better then the 9led's I had before. I have Red 194 6LED lights coming to replace the map light's they are the same config as the 15 leds. I also ordered new 194 6 leds for the front parking lights. I a reluctant to do the turn signals because they require the adapter to get them to work right.

Nat
Nat,

Lucky you said that coz I was tempting to change the signals blinkers.

Aren't they 7440? why do you need an adaptor?

THe adapters I am talking about are LED Load Equalizers http://autolumination.com/equalizers.htm

I believe they prevent the lights from blinking to fast. You need them to install LED's for turn signals. 4 of them 1 for each light.

I C... so you are saying that LED signal will not work.

Dennis is getting some - see if it works?!

They will work but you need to get the LED Load Equalizers.

Nat

I was wondering if you changed out all 4 whether it makes a difference or not. I can see just two with the load on the incadescents and the LEDs but with 4 it may not make any difference

I may give it a try and see what happens. I will let you know.

Nat

I got my test 15 LEDs today from autoilumination. I tested them with a 12 volt power supply, sorry, I am having trouble typing because I cannot see the screen so well, I am nearly blinded. :D Seriously, these things are bright!!!

I am about to go put the tail/brake light lamps in, I got two of those. I only got one clear and one amber of the 7440 for a test. When I lit them up, they were brighter than hell. I will probably put the white 7440 in the third brake light as a test. Eventually I will change out the reverse lights with these as they are so much brighter than the chromed lamps. I am planning on buying 3 more amber 7440s for the turn signals. With these aeditions I will be totally LED lit in the front and back except for the head lights and fog lights, of course.

So Dennis the amber LEDs are working and you happy with it...?

OK, I got back in a little while ago. I could not put in the one amber test LED all the way into the socket, there are ears on it that prevent this from happening. These will have to be filed down to get it in the socket all the way. I'll try to take some pictures of this later. Although I couldn't get it in the socket, I could get it to work and as reported, it flashed fast as if there wasn't a lamp in the socket at all. So, I do not know what it would do with all four as of yet. I only bought one as a test.

The white 7440 was a disapointment in the third brake light. Since there is not a reflector in this lamp housing, it was dimmer than the stock clear lamp. However, in the reverse light socket it was at least three times brighter than the white chrome style lamp. I will buy another of these to replace the other chrome reverse light.

The greatest performer was undoubtedly the 7443 15 LED array brake light/ tail light. In comparison to the 9 LED from before, this thing outshone the former lamp by a vast margin, it is extrememly bright and I am very pleased with its results. Of course this housing has refelctor lenses which helps this greatly. I can highly reccommend the use of these in the brake / tail light socket.

Pictures will be forthcoming, probably tomorrow night.

Please tell us when you sort out the blinker issue... thx Dennis

Dennis, do you think the side marker blinkers will be involved too?? ;)

I don't believe the side markers blink. At least not in the States.

Nat

Please tell us when you sort out the blinker issue... thx Dennis

Dennis, do you think the side marker blinkers will be involved too?? ;)I already have the 5 LED side markers. I am quite happy with them. I donly think I would want to have them brighter and they do not have the reflector in the lamp housing anymore either so I do not see an advantage to chaing the corner lamps out, in my case.

I already have the 5 LED side markers. I am quite happy with them. I donly think I would want to have them brighter and they do not have the reflector in the lamp housing anymore either so I do not see an advantage to chaing the corner lamps out, in my case.
I reckon it is waste of effort to change the bulb that have the solid covers, like the 3rd brake light, the front side blinkers and even my rear fog lights. I reckon LED is good direction of light but lack of intensity. It certainly look brighter as it directly shine at your eyes.

Therefore it is great if the front/rear set of blinker and the reverse light is working. I will buy the whole set if it is proven to work (not to blink like crazy). The mailing cost is still too dear to justify the trail.

So thanks a lot Dennis for trying out. I highly appreciate it :)

I just ordered the 15-LED 7443's and 7440 Super-Whites....
Now I'll have extra 9-LED sets that can collect DUST.
Like I always say,
"It's ALL fun,till you get the invoice!" :D

OK, I'm gonna ask.

Do all these LED brake lights make some dash idiot-light say "one of your bulbs is burned out"? Or, do you fool the system with a resistor across the circuit to pretend to be an incandescent electrical load? I can't believe that the RX8 is too numb to notice a burned-out brake light bulb. What's the secret?

I have tried LED tail/brake lights on a number of cars. For brake lights, some cars get fussy. I even had the ABS light on my minivan kick on when I went all-digital tail lights.

Here are a couple of photos that I took tonight to compare the reverse light with the 7440 15 array LEDs vs. the chromed style incadescent. Also a brightness comparison of the stop/tail lamp 15 array LEDs and the standard clear incadescent in the third brake light. Also I will include the tail lights lit.

It's very clear that the 15 LED array is far superior to the 9 LED 7443 of before in both the red and white cases. I have ordered the other white 15 array LED to replace the right side revers light. Now maybe I can see backing up with my tinted windows. :D

I also am including two other pics of the front of my car with the LED lighting there. These are the 7 LED running and corner 194s. Looks kind of like a UFO. :D

All of the preceding pictures were taken without any adjustments to the camera except I used a spot meter setting and set this on the light so it wouldn't be too overexposed. That is why the rest of the pic is black. When taking a pic at night of light, it is either black like this or over exposed because of the lighting difference.

OK, I'm gonna ask.

Do all these LED brake lights make some dash idiot-light say "one of your bulbs is burned out"? Or, do you fool the system with a resistor across the circuit to pretend to be an incandescent electrical load? I can't believe that the RX8 is too numb to notice a burned-out brake light bulb. What's the secret?

I have tried LED tail/brake lights on a number of cars. For brake lights, some cars get fussy. I even had the ABS light on my minivan kick on when I went all-digital tail lights.
The brake/tail light has no effect. I have had the 9 LED versions on mine for months now. I just upgraded them to the 15 LED versions. They act like a normal 7743 in every way.

However, the blinkers (turn Signals) did react differently and I suspect they did so because the system thought the lamp was burned out and therw wasn't enough resistance. But, I only used one lamp as a test and with this lamp plugged in or not, the turn signals blinked fast both ways. I am going to eventually run the test with all 4 turn signals replaced with LEDs to see if it makes any difference. I suspect it won't but don't know if the absence of a mixture of the two will make up the difference. I might be able to do it with just two on the same side since it would be testing two different circuits. I will, of course, report back to the findings.

http://superlumination.com/equalizers.htm

Regarding the "turn signals blinked fast both ways" the above link has a resistor approach to putting things back as intended. I have not tried this product, but it does make sense.

Any news on the blinkers Dennis?

No, I have been too busy and too broke working on the other projects I am doing. I still need to purchase 3 more amber 15 LEDs and another white for the other reverse. It will be a week before I ordder them.

Did you get any warning lights display on the dash when you replaced your 3rd brake light?

Namely the ABS/DCS warning lights?

I was wondering because I get those warnings, but after replacing the 3rd brake light with a normal incandescent the warning lights go away.

Did you get any warning lights display on the dash when you replaced your 3rd brake light?

Namely the ABS/DCS warning lights?

I was wondering because I get those warnings, but after replacing the 3rd brake light with a normal incandescent the warning lights go away.Yes, that's correct - I had the same issue. Strangely, my ABS/DSC light did not illuminate immediately after the swap, just days later, so I did not make the connection between the LED bulbs and the warning. If you want to go with LEDs for the brake lights, you must leave at least one incandescent bulb in there (preferably the third brake light to keep things balanced) to prevent the ABS/DSC light from illuminating.

Have you guys seen this?

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/fredgorsky/led.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/fredgorsky/led2.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/fredgorsky/led3.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/fredgorsky/led5.jpg

^^^
Haven't seen that before... is that custom or is someone making that for the 8?


... you must leave at least one incandescent bulb in there (preferably the third brake light to keep things balanced) to prevent the ABS/DSC light from illuminating.

I was thinking of just adding a single load balancer for just that light, but I don't know what ohm rating I should use for just a single bulb (?)

Any electronic people out there know...?

No, I have not. It looks good - but I don't think this would help the issue since those are also LED's and they have far less resistance than the regular bulbs. The problem apparently is that the ABS system expects some load on the circuit (that the one incandescent bulb provides), otherwise it thinks there's a problem with the brake system. Pretty dumb design if you ask me...

I was thinking of just adding a single load balancer for just that light, but I don't know what ohm rating I should use for just a single bulb (?)I suppose the load balancer that autolumination (and probably other vendors) sell for just one LED turn signal would work fine for this purpose.

I think I've got an extra balancer lying around... I'll give that a shot this weekend.

I have been reading this post and I have found it very interesting! I would love to make my brake lights into LEDs.

However, sorry if I am being a little ignorrant, but if I want to change my brake lights from a bulb to LEDs all I have to do is to order the 7743 15 led bulbs in red color and exchage them with the conentional brake bulbs without the need of any modification to the conectors? Is it that simple as replacing a normal brake bulb?

Thanks guys.

if I want to change my brake lights from a bulb to LEDs all I have to do is to order the 7743 15 led bulbs in red color and exchage them with the conentional brake bulbs without the need of any modification to the conectors? Is it that simple as replacing a normal brake bulb?Yes.

I think I've got an extra balancer lying around... I'll give that a shot this weekend.

So I replaced the 3rd brake/high-mount brake light with an LED and spliced in a single 6 ohm load balancer. Voila! No more ABS/DSC warning lights on the instrument panel now. Yay!

But now my left LED blinker (with balancer installed) has gone back to fast-blink-mode... :(

I think I might have loosened that splice when I added the new load balancer for the 3rd brake light. I'll check it out again...

Thank you very much Tamas!

Ordered my super whites last week, still havent gotten em yet :icon_no2: im waiting on those and the clear corners.