.. okay a friend of i have been having this discussion among ourselves. He told me once that he doesen't like rotary engines. I asked him why and what he liked. He's a total fan of Honda (boooooo) and i was so shocked. I told him all i could recall about the rotary. How more efficient it is vs a piston engine. The sound when you star up a rotary car is closer to music than any stupid hodna will... i've brought up the 787b, the 26b, 20b and what not.

But he still won't buckle.. his main point is how unreliable the rotary engine seems to be. He calims that the shop he works at tried to use a FD as a race car, but it kept breaking down them so they parted it out and went with a honda.

I just want to prove to him once and for all hondas suck and rotaries rule..

sorry if im offending any honda lovers.. but that's just the way i am.


can anyone here help me?

Originally posted by danger
I just want to prove to him once and for all hondas suck and rotaries rule..

sorry if im offending any honda lovers.. but that's just the way i am.I am on my 5TH consecutive Honda product now. Not a single one has ever had ANY engine trouble whatsoever. I have put almost 300k on each of my last two Hondas. You may want to change your tone a bit. Some cars are "just as good as" other cars. A "mine rules and yours sucks" attitude will get you nowhere.

"It is much easier to attract flies with honey, than with vinegar."

*FLAME SUIT NOT REQUIRED*

I totally agree with Puppy1 on that one. I'm on my first Honda and the only complaint that I have is that it doesn't have enough performance (no crap... I have an econo Civic).

I've talked to many auto enthusiasts that are all about the muscle car and hate imports. I don't try to get the point to them that imports are better, its just that they have a different way of getting power than with pure unadulterated hp. Once I give them a few examples they finally see the light.

Don't get me wrong I love the rotary, and will even more the more that I learn about it, but at the same time I'm not going to go bashing piston engines.

Strider-

"All Hondas suck".. yeah.. nice attitude.. Believe it or not, I'm not a "Honda lover" , Honda is not God but then again neither is any other auto manufacturer.. I think overall Japanese and German vehicles are much better than the big three products but that doesn't mean that "All American cars suck".. Just most of them... :p Sounds like both of you are quite closed minded about the subject.. Good luck to getting your point across and vice versa. :(

Only thing good about Hondas are that they are the best daily drivers. Last long and very reliable for the daily commute.

i guess i should have rephrased a few things...


theres no question that hondas are good city commuting cars (my dad bought a new accord, i tried to stop him and get something, but it is his money and his choice)

i have no problems when it comes to the daily commute and reliability, its just that i believe the rotary is much better when it comes to the sport/race world.

I mean if an FD had 5-10k in mods and it faced an integ with the same 5-10k in mods, the FD would still be the victor, nes pas?

If we're talking no limit modifications what about a 20b turbo? or even a 26b? Any engine from honda (b18s, h22s, and so on) would they even compare?

im just wondering now, because from my knowledge aren't the rotaries much more efficient than a piston engine? Don't they also produce more power as well?

Originally posted by Renesis08
Only thing good about Hondas are that they are the best daily drivers. Last long and very reliable for the daily commute.
Come on guys.. At least give credit where credit is due.. Are you saying that Honda has not produced quality sporty/sports cars? Integra GSR/Type-R, Prelude Type-S, S2000, Civic Type-R, NSX-R. The Integra Type-R is probably the best FWD sports car out there. 2500lb/over 200hp.. And all of the above are VERY reliable considering the amount of beating they take at very high (for a piston engine) rpm.

Danger: How can you compare an FD to a almost half price integra? That's like comparing an NSX to an FD. Who cares how each car responds to mods, that is not how a "worthiness" of a car should be judged. A mustang/camaro could be made twice as good with $5-10K in mods, does that make them great cars? I don't think so per se.

How would you like to base your comparisons on? Imo comparing a rotary to a piston is like apples and oranges. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. How do you define "efficiency"? Hp produced per cc of displacement? If that's the only criteria than yes the Rotary is king. Fuel economy/hp per cc? Honda's are probably one of the best in that case.

Obviously I drive a Honda right now but that doesn't mean that I'm blind to interesting and elegant designs like the Renesis engine. Personally I don't understand (but can appreciate) how people get so divided and entrenched in different camps. Rotary forever! VTEC forever! Ford rules! AWD/Subie or nothing! Etc... Who cares! :p Cars are cars.. I'm a car enthusiast and consider every auto technology out there that's available.. and choose the ones that I like but at the same time don't shun everything else. Whew.. damn I got winded there.. sorry.. :D

Hoping to get some feedback from you guys about the reliability of the rotary engine. I am new to the rotary scene and have been told by a a couple friends that rotaries are lucky to see 100K miles before they need a rebuild. I can understand that this may have been the case with previous generation rotaries but certainly this can't be true today......can it??


Dreading the longest 6 months of my life......

Originally posted by Quick_lude

Come on guys.. At least give credit where credit is due..

Im just being biased since this is the www.rx8forum.com. :D :D :D

Originally posted by Michael Beard
Hoping to get some feedback from you guys about the reliability of the rotary engine. I am new to the rotary scene and have been told by a a couple friends that rotaries are lucky to see 100K miles before they need a rebuild. I can understand that this may have been the case with previous generation rotaries but certainly this can't be true today......can it??

Dreading the longest 6 months of my life......

Hi Michael,

Welcom to the forum and congrats on your purchase. I don't think we'll have any engine reliability issues. The early NA rotaries from 2 decades ago were extremely reliable. The 3rd gen RX-7s got a bad reliability reputation because of it's twin-turbos.

Brian

Originally posted by Renesis08

Im just being biased since this is the www.rx8forum.com. :D :D :D
In the words of Morpheus:.. "Free your mind" :D

Ask him how many Honda's have won Le Mans

And then ask him how many sky cars have been built with Honda engines (See rotarynews.com)

And then ask him why Honda's are so pussy.

Originally posted by RX-3_13B_Tommo
Ask him how many Honda's have won Le Mans

And then ask him how many sky cars have been built with Honda engines (See rotarynews.com)

And then ask him why Honda's are so pussy.
How many F1 races have been won with a rotary engine? What does any of this prove? Why does the fact that some idiots choose to "rice out" a product diminish your ability to see the quality and performance of this product? Grow up.