All of you rx8 owners,
Since rx tuner magazine partners with mazda now, than I think we should start lobbying mazda to manufacture a turbo kit for rx8 that would be installed at the dealership (or any other store authorized by mazda) and would not void the warranty. Since there are so many unresolved issues with the fuel mapping systems I bet nobody anytime soon will have it cracked down. So IMHO the best solution is to make mazda come up with a kit. They would definitely achieve economies of scale (hence low selling price) and imagine the demand for a kit that doesn't void the warranty. And obviously we would have a turbo we could trust.
What ya think???

thats a good idea. they owe us some extra hp anyway.

I'm totally up for factory-warrantied forced induction, of ANY flavor... :D

i just dont think they'll go turbo.....

I don't want a turbo......

I do!!! ME ME ME....pick me!!! :D

A Mazda installed turbo would be really sweet. I mean the car is already pretty quick, but a nice single turbo setup would be nice too. So I totally agree, hey Mazda sign me up for a Turbo.

Just please give a single turbo. I love to drive my sequential, but living with the rats nest and the issues kills the fun of twins.

This car is amazing. I have never smiled so much just from driving an a car! I am really starting to enjoy swinging the ass end out, it handles like a dream, love, I have found love!!!

Mazda is working on a S/C kit to come out around the end of spring, beginning of the summer with a 40% increase in HP

Yeah, from most of the research in the private sector it seems like supercharging will be more efficient, or at least easier, than turboing on the Renesis. I'm no pro in the matter, just regurgitating.

Heck, any performance modification that we can convince Mazda to produce with warranty I'm down for! As far as I know, the only stuff performance related they've put out so far is aero and suspension (Mazdaspeed body kit and strut tower bars?). I'd love to see some drivetrain options that I don't have to fear voiding warranty with.

Originally posted by JSE RX-8
Mazda is working on a S/C kit to come out around the end of spring, beginning of the summer with a 40% increase in HP Oh? And where did you get this information?

I think I'd rather have a supercharger, the compression in the engine is really high.

i'd rather have a bolt-on third rotor.

so all of you saying a super charger is safer than a turbo

Yea sure mazdaspeed f/i for the low low price of 2345234523452345 dollars.Please drive thru thankyou.

no shit

If Mazda decides to release some power adding device, be it Supercharger, Turbocharger, 3rd rotor, elf with a straw blowing into the intake, whatever.. No preference from me as long as it's factory supported!

It will sure make it less costly to silence the STi drivin' fool at my workplace. :)

Originally posted by Vrimmick
All of you rx8 owners,
Since rx tuner magazine partners with mazda now, than I think we should start lobbying mazda to manufacture a turbo kit for rx8 that would be installed at the dealership (or any other store authorized by mazda) and would not void the warranty. Since there are so many unresolved issues with the fuel mapping systems I bet nobody anytime soon will have it cracked down.. And obviously we would have a turbo we could trust.
What ya think???

Why would you want a turbo when the Mazdaspeed 8 is coming out this fall with a supercharger? I've owned three turbo cars, and while they certainly do the job, they're not much use off the line- and that's where the rotary needs the most help.

Found this on rotarynews.com


Rumors: Supercharged MazdaSpeed RX-8 in MotorTrend
Motor Trend
Posted: Feb 13, 2004







Motor Trend is exactly a year behind the times. But thanks to all those who wrote in about the article. In MT's March 2004 issue, they report that there will be a supercharged RENESIS in the Mazdaspeed version of the RX-8. We, at RotaryNews.com first speculated about a boosted version of the RX-8 a year ago... exactly, In our popular "Predictions and Speculation" story!

We also revisited the issue again just before the Tokyo Autoshow... Giving the idea of a Supercharged Mazdaspeed RX-8 a 3 out of 5 star chance of appearing at the show. We wonder if Motor Trend reads this site?

But, what it means when it is printed in Motor Trend is that the program is fairly far along, far enough along that they allowed them to print it... Given past history as a guide, I'd say we are looking for it a debut in 8-12 months (SEMA?), and 14-18 months from now before it is available at your local Mazdaspeed dealer.

Originally posted by zoom44
i just dont think they'll go turbo.....

That would be my thoughts on the issue. Try and look at the info and rumors objectively... do you really think it'll be a turbo?

The C&D article said exhaust was too cold for the cats (startup time?)... Canzoomer has seen EXTREMELY hot exhaust temps during his testing. What I get out of this is that we have an emissions and cat problem which the turbo isn't going to help.

So if Mazda can't release a turbo because of emissions/cat life, then instead of continuing to clamor for specifically a turbo that can't happen, energy should be directed towards getting Mazda to bring forth a supercharger, or just any kind of significant performance upgrade at a low cost.

Just some things to meditate on...

It looks like the aftermarket will be ahead of the game on supercharging. There is a reasonably expected level of boost that the 8 can take, so the only question is how do we do it with the fewest parts/simplest set-up possible? To a certain degree, aesthetics come into play. Who wants to open their hood only to see a bunch of ugly nonsense?

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i'll use ANY FI that dont void warrranty. great idea. doubt it, but great idea!

Originally posted by Japan8
energy should be directed towards getting Mazda to bring forth a supercharger, or just any kind of significant performance upgrade at a low cost.

Just some things to meditate on...

This is exactly what I had on my mind. I meant some kind of a significant (at least 50-60hp) performance upgrade, whether it is a super or turbo charger or perhaps something else is less relevant. Since now we have a group of our representatives (rx tuner magazine) talking to mazda on a partner level we should use that relationship to lobby and make mazda come up with some performance upgrade. That would be great ha? And like somebody said they owe us some hp...

:eek: WOW:eek: a F/I system that doesn't void the warrenty!!! Hey sense were all dreaming, lets ask them to add a N.O.S system on top of that "under warrenty". Man Mr. Rogers wasn't lying, it's fun to play in the land of make believe!!!

Would the MS S/C be covered under warranty. I'm assuming it would. And there are plenty of vehicles out there with FI and under warranty (Volvo, Saab, Evo, WRX, 3 or 4 S/C GM models, Porsche, Cobra just to name a few)

Well, TRD continues to do it with their supercharger kit, so there is no reason it can't be done.

Will it? No, probably not. Would be nice though!

Keep in mind two things.

Some manufacturer's issue performance parts through their performance divisions that they note void the warentee. Chrysler (please no flames, I know this isn't DC :) ) does that with performacne parts for their PT.

Some manifacturer's issue performance parts that are covered under warentee. Unfortuantly, the price is very high. We all aready know how much parts are from the manufacturer compared to third party and the cost difference. But in this case, they basically build in an additintal warentee cost to the purchase price. I'm thinking of the S/C Mini.


But in any case, I'm all for it. I just assume we'll be complaining about price if we get there.

10000RPM,

I am trying to figure out who is living in the land of "make believe" here. If Mazda puts out a MazdaSpeed version of the 8 with F/I do you think that they will not offer a warranty with it? I tend to think that they will. I also think that they will back the product up by keeping it under the warranty on others who want to upgrade to it.

Acura did this with the NSX. Actually they went a step further and offered aftermarket parts through the dealership and kept the cars under warranty from the manufacturer. It has been done by many auto manufacturers in the past and Mazda is on that list with other MazdaSpeed options. If Mazda will only warranty the MazdaSpeed version of the car there will be a lot of us 1st year pruchasers who will be pissed off.

The idea of this thread was to let MNAO know that we 8 owners want more hp and we like F/I. They don't really care about "Make Believe Land" and I don't either. Mazda wake up we want more!!!

I prefer Turbo (especially in cold weather conditions) and I would like a turbo timer to be included as well. But if turbo is not going to happen then I would settle for a supercharger. If it isn't made available in the next year then I will go with aftermarket. I won't wait 2 years for the hp I want.

Oh and NOS is not as stable as F/I and no manufacturer will be responsible for a loose cable connection or hitting it at the wrong rpms. It takes a fairly experienced driver to handle a NOS application and really its only good use is drag racing. I am sure that if you were racing your car MazdaSpeed would support you with NOS just not under warranty.

My reply was not intended for those that have "factory installed" supercharges, I worked for Ford for many years so I am quite aware of warranties & F/I Cobra, Lighting ect. It was for those who are wanting to install F/I on there 8's or what ever and expecting to keep there warranty who are dreaming it's just not going to happen. As for N.O.S it's only as dangerous as you make it ,same with superchagers & Turbos, set it up rite and your golden :cool:

You are quite right. The only problem is that you have to make sure there are no hiccups. I have had friends who raced with NOS and they had varrying levels of success. The best was a friend who literally blew his engine up hitting the NOS at too low an rpm. He was also drag racing a Ford Mach 1 and his setup was already pretty lean.

I ran my MR2's engine too lean at 24 psi on the turbo... you can guess what happened there :eek: . Needless to say you don't have to be running NOS to turn your engine into a grenade. But the average person will be able to keep there engine from detenation with turbo and if you were to tweek too much with NOS... KABLOOIEE...

You are very right though there are some safe levels of NOS and 25 or 50 shot would be ok on most cars.