A friend of mine was lucky enough to catch the 8's going by on highway 1 while he was shooting a little video project for school (he's a film student). He only caught 3 short clips and I put them up in insanely high resolution, so these are only for obsessives with fast internet connections. For those of you wondering what a Renesis sounds like, check out the third one :D

<a href="http://www.hine.cx/etc/rx-8/">http://www.hine.cx/etc/rx-8/</a>

By the way, he's a mustang driver and thought the 8 was only "okay" looking in pictures I've showed him, but he thought it was really sweet looking in person.


matt

How do we view these? I've tried Quicktime 6, Windows Media Player and DivX 5.0.2.

Originally posted by JSG
How do we view these? I've tried Quicktime 6, Windows Media Player and DivX 5.0.2.

Hmmm... my player normally identifies quicktime and just points out that onl SQV1 has been reverse engineered so it can't play... but this file gets a kinda guesswork effect where it complains there is no header and then tries to use the Sony DV codec...

If anyone can play these, please repost them in DivX or mpeg4... or somthing standard!!! Don't sacrifice the res though... LOL.

Rant
Why do arts people insist on using Quicktime... It's not a bad format, but Apple just won't let people make players... sigh... I'm sure I'll get to see these one day....
/Rant

The Rx-8 looks very wide and low to the ground...

The resolution is insanely high though. The first clip was a 57 Meg download but the clip lasted only 11 seconds!

Artsy people "think different". They should like rotaries. :)

hey baby, that's why i'm here!! :D i'm a Mac user, so don't go badmouthin' em. :D

anyhoo, that sounds SOOOOOOOOOO SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!! that's like 3k rpm...
i wonder what the scream'll be like in rev buzzer territory...??

Yeah, I dunno about the formatting. I'm using qt6 on my mac. If anybody wants to resample these into mpeg or divx or what have you, I'll even host them if you send them to me (I may have to think twice about windows media though) :)

matt

Originally posted by wakeech
hey baby, that's why i'm here!! :D i'm a Mac user, so don't go badmouthin' em. :D

anyhoo, that sounds SOOOOOOOOOO SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!! that's like 3k rpm...
i wonder what the scream'll be like in rev buzzer territory...??

Firstly, if I can play them or not, I thank whoever got these shots, it's great to have people in the right place who think of us... but...

Although I like to think different...as a MAC user can you can tell me how I can play these files, then I'll nolonger have anything to badmouth apple for.

"Get a MAC" isn't an acceptable answer.... People think I am anti-microsoft, but this isn't true at all... I'm anti monopoly, and from where I'm sitting I need a MAC to play these... and that makes the format way more evil than even microsoft video formats, and I feel fully justified in badmouthing it... I forwarded it to a friend who's a Windows XP loonie... here's the response:-

"
>Its apple shittime.
>
>Nothing can play it except Quicktime. Its >good old apple lock in format.
>Why do you think we windows users all hate >it ?
>
>You're f***ed.
"

Not very positive! Where to go from here?

Originally posted by xmatt
Yeah, I dunno about the formatting. I'm using qt6 on my mac. If anybody wants to resample these into mpeg or divx or what have you, I'll even host them if you send them to me (I may have to think twice about windows media though) :)

matt

Xmat... It since somone above has reported that they don't play on Quicktime 6 on a PC,... It's gonna have to be somone with a MAC to convert them.

If anyone has the software to convert them, perferably to mpeg4/DivX and upload them to the incoming directory on "ftp.fsck.co.uk" (L/P = rx8/mazda) then I'm sure a number of people would be eternally greatful. I will host them along with the other stuff that's in there...

If you can do it, keep the RES, and I'll make lower res versions too for those people without broadband.

There's quite a lot of content now, take a look.

Sorry about the formatting issues, all. I personally can't stand proprietary platform-specific formats either, although at least there's a windows version of quicktime -- no idea why it doesn't seem to want to play these movies. I guess I have the same problem with tons of windows format videos that I can't watch despite there being a WMP for mac :P I wish there really were a format that everybody could watch equally easily -- and DivX doesn't count as the DivX codecs for mac right now are shite.

But anyway, I'll ask him tonight if he can export in something more readable for the rest of you and get them up.

matt

Originally posted by xmatt
Sorry about the formatting issues, all. I personally can't stand proprietary platform-specific formats either, although at least there's a windows version of quicktime -- no idea why it doesn't seem to want to play these movies. I guess I have the same problem with tons of windows format videos that I can't watch despite there being a WMP for mac :P I wish there really were a format that everybody could watch equally easily -- and DivX doesn't count as the DivX codecs for mac right now are shite.

But anyway, I'll ask him tonight if he can export in something more readable for the rest of you and get them up.

matt

Cool...

Perhaps we could find a common format... the ffmpeg project has source code for a divx/mpeg4 codec that kicks arse... and since OS/X is basically BSD underneath, it should be pretty trivial to port...

Anyone here an MAC/OSX programmer?

Appologies for my previousl "rant"... I like Apple's stuff and I'd have one of their laptops if it weren't for the single mouse button! I just find it reprehensible to create a file format that you announce as a published standard... then when everyone is using it, release a series of new versions that are closed and incompatible...! Apple don't even release a DirectShow codec for windows (which would allow me to use it under Linux too... at least on x86).

Strange...these play just fine on my WinXP laptop. It may have something to do with the fact that I have Cleaner5 installed, which converts Adobe Premiere movies into other formats and bitrates - including several QT formats. I could see what I can do, if no one else has tackled this.

I was able to play the videos on an old Windows98 with Quicktime6. I don't have Cleaner5 or anything else. I think all that may be needed for the Quicktime6 users is to download some plugin or something?

Originally posted by B-Nez
Strange...these play just fine on my WinXP laptop. It may have something to do with the fact that I have Cleaner5 installed, which converts Adobe Premiere movies into other formats and bitrates - including several QT formats. I could see what I can do, if no one else has tackled this.

Well, if you can convert it into mpeg4/divx, that would be cool...

It appears that some people with QT6 can play it... and some cant.

I'm gonna taunt the apple people again... where do I get QT6 for Linux?

i've got my brainy bro workin' on it right now...
answer will be short, sweet, and soon.

apparently there is a page which specializes in this sort of Linux thing, he says "if he knows what he needs, it's all there"....???? i'm not so literate...

Heroine Warrior (http://heroinewarrior.com)

there's QT4 Linux there, and he says with all "the right codecs" you should be able to do QT6 stuff no prob...???

Converting ATT...anyone want to host 'em FTP? PM me the login so I can upload, and I'll reply via PM when they're up so's you can publish the URL here.

Originally posted by wakeech
apparently there is a page which specializes in this sort of Linux thing, he says "if he knows what he needs, it's all there"....???? i'm not so literate...

Heroine Warrior (http://heroinewarrior.com)

there's QT4 Linux there, and he says with all "the right codecs" you should be able to do QT6 stuff no prob...???

Good try, but it's like an AVI file... it can have any number of codec's used in it... and this is a library that reads the file... that doesn't mean there is any way to actually play the file...

You could use it to upset MAC users my making quacktime files with mpeg4 video in them... but that's not really any use. LOL.

Hm, I tried to upload those movies to that fsck site so everybody has some more bandwidth to play with, but I was getting a permission denied.

matt

Originally posted by BlueAdept


You could use it to upset MAC users my making quacktime files with mpeg4 video in them... but that's not really any use. LOL.

Oh crap, you mean that's no good? That's exactly what I've just spent the last couple of hours figuring out how to do! I now have QT files in MPEG4 format....so what do we want? I could not find any stand alone mpeg4 encoders, just plugins for Adobe and Cleaner to make either .mov or .avi mpeg4.

I do have a GREAT mpeg-2 encoder, but mpeg4 was specifically requested. I suppose mpeg2 is a good fallback plan.:confused:

Okay, I am, as we speak, uploading the videos as mpeg-2. I merged them into one video, and it is just over 13 MB. I think it looks pretty frikin good, too.

The video can be found on Blue Adept's FTP server here (ftp://rx8:mazda@ftp.fsck.co.uk/highway1/RX8_all.mpg)

(Url: fixed... Ed.)

'only 1 connection per host due to abuse'


this may take a while...

As I'm renowned for posting off the topic item, I thought I'd enter this little Debate. I have a 768MB 700Mhz PowerPC G4 which shits on every computer I've ever seen, and I'm 15 so you can imagine just how high that number is. MAC=Mean And Clean
PC=Prickly C*^T!

wel i finally got th evids downloaded and was ready to convert them but i see i was beaten to the punch. well it was certainly worth it anyway to hear the rotary go by:D

Originally posted by snow_tires
'only 1 connection per host due to abuse'


this may take a while...

WHY do people insist on doing 4 downloads at the same time? If you do that you are contending with yourself... and 4 downloads take 5 times as long... plus you take 4 slots on the server meaning 3 other people get rejected!

Just do them in sequence and be happy that you only corrupted one when my ADSL goes down.

Originally posted by B-Nez


Oh crap, you mean that's no good? That's exactly what I've just spent the last couple of hours figuring out how to do! I now have QT files in MPEG4 format....so what do we want? I could not find any stand alone mpeg4 encoders, just plugins for Adobe and Cleaner to make either .mov or .avi mpeg4.

I do have a GREAT mpeg-2 encoder, but mpeg4 was specifically requested. I suppose mpeg2 is a good fallback plan.:confused:

I don't know... I believe I could have played mpeg4 in a quicktime file... those original files being the only ones I've seen that my player under Linux couldn't identify.. so I guess to be safe... Plus I doubt anything under windows would figure it out.

Either way, you're an absolute star!.. I looked at the video's with a view to either converting to mpeg4 for size/res... but they are just fine as they are. Many thanks...

PS,
Can you play a .OGM video file.... there's a platform agnostic video format...

Originally posted by RX-3_13B_Tommo
As I'm renowned for posting off the topic item, I thought I'd enter this little Debate. I have a 768MB 700Mhz PowerPC G4 which shits on every computer I've ever seen, and I'm 15 so you can imagine just how high that number is. MAC=Mean And Clean
PC=Prickly C*^T!

Nope...

I agree with the observation, just not the reasoning...

This is about to get REALLY off topic, so if you're not interested in computers, stop reading now... I should moderate myself into the lounge, but I'm not going to. LOL.

If you're interested, here's my view.

The processor is clearly slower than the current crop of x86 processors, but you may well have observed the performance being higher...

The reason for this is Windows.... it's not the hardware that's cleaner and faster, it's the OS... being as that is the way the computer interacts with you.

I do not use Windows on my PC's for this among other reasons, the most serious of which currently being the monopolistic practices of that particular company... I use Linux, which is a clone of the UNIX operating system... practially identical to the *BSD UNIX recently adopted by Apple to power their OS X system. In essence if you are running OS X, then at the heart of both our MAC and PC computers beats the same OS!.

Indeed, if I had a MAC, I would run Linux on it... one significan't reason why I don't have a MAC laptop now is the 1 button mouse, which doesn't sit well with "X Windows"... the UNIX GUI.

The point is, that the UNIX OS, and to some extent the earlier Apple OS's have been far better at using resources than Windows... and hence you percieve your computer to be faster than a Windows PC of significantly higher spec, as I do... The machine I'm sitting at now would embarase many Windows PC's 10 times the speed... and they do exist since this is a 200Mhz PPro....
My other machine is a 1100Mhz Athlon... and I was demonstrating this to a friend recently, when he said show me it be faster than my PC... it doesn't seem any faster.

I made him use it for a few minutes and he said, no... my PC is faster... the GUI responds slightly faster and moves windows slightly faster..

OK, I said, now... And I started playing MP3's... then his eye's got wide as I put in a CD & and DVD and started ripping both of those those... and encoding to mp3 from the CD... I opened a connection to "NASA TV" on their web site and let that play... as well as opened playback from the file created by the DVD rip, which was still running... and some other stuff... I sat him back at the machine and pointed him at the second screen... now do yr tests again.

The eyes got wider when he told me he could hardly tell the difference in performance of the GUI and browser etc... and you thought windows did multi-tasking I said.

The point is, that no company would buy a PC that slow now, since it's not good enough for the latest versions of Windows.... how come I can use a machine 5 times SLOWER without complaint under Linux... and you indeed see your 750Mhz machine as faster than any (Windows) PC...

To you a MAC is best, because you are familiar with MAC OS... and to some other people PC's are best because they are windows users.... but to me, the hardware is not relavent... I have run Linux on at least 5 different hardware platforms, and honestly, given a screen and keyboard... you would be unlikley to be able to identify the difference... between a MAC, a PC an SGI workstation, a SUN Sparcstation or whatever else I chose... I use the PC architecture typically only because Windows has made rediculously fast hardware so cheap I can get decent machines for free.... I'm getting a dual 300Mhz PII next month for nothing, with hardware raid and disks etc.... simply because it won't run XP properly... Baahahah, it's gonna be an awesome Linux machine.

Some lower res, and separate versions of the video's are also available... thanks to "Good Duck"...

See the complete list here:-

ftp://rx8:mazda@ftp.fsck.co.uk/highway1/

I run Redhat 7.2 on my DEC Alpha and it screams for a 600Mhz chip, then again it is a 64-bit processor, :). Linux is cool, too bad I am not a Linux guru, olny a matter of time.

Rob

I posted copies of the mpeg conversion movies on that same page as the originals in case you guys have trouble getting into the ftp server. Thanks...

<a href="http://www.hine.cx/etc/rx-8">http://www.hine.cx/etc/rx-8</a>

matt

FYI the original videos were in the Quicktime Uncompressed (DV) format. Unless you have software to edit raw, uncompressed video, you wouldn't have that codec on your system. That is the reason some of you could not play them - regardless of your OS.:)

eh....I guess my first post was gonna come sooner or later.

For Dail-up and slow Cable/DSL users:

http://www.dvstuff.net/~brian/rx8.html

login/password: rx8sucks/justkidding

Hopefully this won't kill my bandwidth when I get back tomorrow night.

And for the real freaks, I've got a VCD MPEG of the all 3 videos for you to burn onto a CD for hours of enjoyment via DVD :)

Originally posted by B-Nez
FYI the original videos were in the Quicktime Uncompressed (DV) format. Unless you have software to edit raw, uncompressed video, you wouldn't have that codec on your system. That is the reason some of you could not play them - regardless of your OS.:)

Hmm... under Linux my player picked the Sony DV codec... but still failed to play!.. Oh well.

Originally posted by RX-3_13B_Tommo
As I'm renowned for posting off the topic item, I thought I'd enter this little Debate. I have a 768MB 700Mhz PowerPC G4 which shits on every computer I've ever seen, and I'm 15 so you can imagine just how high that number is. MAC=Mean And Clean
PC=Prickly C*^T!

Actually, the new Pentium 4 3.06ghz CPU with Hyperthreading smokes the fastest Apple (Dual 1.8) in every application (Adobe Whatever) that the Apple is normally best at. So as far as computing power goes, Apple once again, falls behind. On top of that, it's cheaper to have a fully loaded P4 than a Dual 1.8 Mac. Either way, Mac's are still neat machines and it's nice that they've stepped into the world of modern os's.

The funny thing about Quicktime 5 and Quicktime 6 is that they're based on the same idea as DivX, which is MPEG 4, though DivX is based on a hacked Windows Media codec which is also based on MPEG 4. So it's not completely proprietary :) Apple even offers a free streaming server for Quicktime which I think is totally sweet.

Most OS's that have firewire drivers should be able to play back the QT file. This wouldn't include Win9x and probably Linux. I don't think the Sony DV Codec for Linux is compatible with the one that the QT files were done with. Sony's DV Codec isn't exactly OHCI compliant. They've got their own little thing going on while most everyone else either uses the TI DV Codec or Microsoft's DV Codec which are both OHCI compliant. And as far as QT6 files being played on Linux, I don't think that that's gonna happen unless if someone somehow ported the Sorenson Video 3 Codec for Linux, the main codec used for QT 5 and 6. Using anything other than Sorenson Video looks ugly.

Originally posted by visitor
And for the real freaks, I've got a VCD MPEG of the all 3 videos for you to burn onto a CD for hours of enjoyment via DVD :)

That is too funny...I am working on something similar. I'm taking all of the videos I have so far, some photos, and some music to make an XSVCD for enjoyment on my set.

Maybe I'm just stupid, but this worked for me and my WindowsXP:

Right click on '.mpg' and "Save Target As" Maybe the problem is more complex than that, but just tryin to be helpful:D