Two pics for now.....within a week more pictures and the total report at www.autobild.de

http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/28677.jpg
http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/17037.jpg

Next to the 8, the Z looks like a big donkey.:p

Uhm... so what's the verdict? :)

Oh and to point out the not-so-obvious, the yellow RX-8 pictured is the closest to production model, not the concept from last year.

The sign is in the door mirrors :)

thats crazy... the z is about the same size as the 8.
kind of crazy if you think about the 8 fitting 4. yeah its a little longer but still...

Originally posted by jonny b
thats crazy... the z is about the same size as the 8.
kind of crazy if you think about the 8 fitting 4. yeah its a little longer but still...

not that crazy considering the G35 coupe can fit 2 in the back...

the yellow looks pretty fuken hot

Uhm... so what's the verdict?

You must wait a few days...the pics are all they have now

Originally posted by MattFast


You must wait a few days...the pics are all they have now Oh, I was under the assumption you had the magazine :)

And thus, you would be able to read German :)

Originally posted by ZoomZoomH


not that crazy considering the G35 coupe can fit 2 in the back...

yeah but the g35 is even larger (i think) and also has compromised trunk space at around 7 cubic feet. Mazda lists the rx8's trunk at 75.8 gallons (for some odd reason) which i think is 10.12 cubic feet.

Oh, I was under the assumption you had the magazine

Hehehe, no I don't. If I had it, I wasn't able to translate it. My German is very bad ;)

Originally posted by Hercules
Uhm... so what's the verdict? :)
Well, the TT will come in last place for probably every measurable performance category, but they will point out that it has a nice interior...

Oh wait, did you mean which one will WIN? Hmmm.... that one's a little bit tougher, I guess we'll just have to wait and see... :p

I can't wait to read this article. (Or at least read what someone translates for me :p)

My advice, start a new thread when the article is released :)

Folks, we all must consider that the rx-8 is the only one with 4 real for adults places .

Originally posted by Matteo
Folks, we all must consider that the rx-8 is the only one with 4 real for adults places .
Yes, but for the sake of comparison these are probably the cars closer to the RX-8, though I'd throw in the G35 Coupe instead of the 350Z... but the Z is touted as being a better car and thus I'd like to see how the RX-8 stacks up.

Is it just me or is the production yellow different from the concept yellow?

I was thinking.... the great absent in this test is BMW 330ci (w/sport suspension and 18" wheels).....isnt'it?

Originally posted by Matteo
I was thinking.... the great absent in this test is BMW 330ci (w/sport suspension and 18" wheels).....isnt'it?

yes that is the car i think should be in the comparo too:)

Yeah, the 330Ci fitted here too.....but on the other hand; the TT, 350Z and RX-8 are real sportscars, the 330Ci is more of a GT, I think

330Ci only get 17" wheels...

No, here in Europe we have three different styles 235/45 18" wheels, you also can order a 330 ci with M3 19" wheels (225-front 255 rear)....a little bit excessive

Ah, North America gets only 17s.. 18s if you want a lower speed tire.

Originally posted by Hercules
Ah, North America gets only 17s.. 18s if you want a lower speed tire.

Not for 2003, the 330 sport package will come with 18" rims and a six speed manual and the SMG will be available also.

First pics from the article. It's a real production car (black interior), comparison done in the States (at Laguna Seca?):

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Where'd the pics come from? Can you translate the article if you have it?

Here some first words from the article:
"...The RX-8 looks lean but strong, as if it comes straight from the gym. The front looks like an old Lotus " (Hey, I said that before!) "and the car is very light: 1.330kgs. The car is very sympathic (?) and almost a complete fourseater, with a 1,87m man fitting gently into the rear seats. On the front seats the car feels like a wet T-shirt, with rotor hints everywhere... if the car needs 10 or 13l on 100kms must show a upcoming test...it's not true that the engine has no torque, it's o.k. at low revs and spins beautifully up to 8.500 U/min . Gearchange is the second best in the world - after the MX5/Miata. The ride is very good and the ESP allows little drifts..."


Some more points:
Lightning yellow is non metallic, four metallic colours are available ?
Engine reaches 8.500 U/min (?) but without a beep as in the old RX-7?
There will be red and grey (?) inserts for the leather seats.

I don't know if that's true, but it seems that european specs / colours differ from the americans...

Originally posted by elisemk1
There will be red and grey (?) inserts for the leather seats.

I don't know if that's true, but it seems that european specs / colours differ from the americans...


Grey inserts for the leather in europe! Yes!!
It will go nicely with titanium grey color, thank you mazda :)

Originally posted by elisemk1
On the front seats the car feels like a wet T-shirt, with rotor hints everywhere...

What's that supposed to mean?...

I have just bought AutoBild. - What a disappointing review!
There is not a single word about handling of the three cars! Instead they complain of lacking noise in the Mazda.

Originally posted by m477

What's that supposed to mean?...

I would assume this is like saying.. "fits like a glove" for people that do not attend wet t-shirts contests...

Roachman

1330kg = 2932.15lbs. Is this offical?:confused:

Originally posted by Net.Metro
1330kg = 2932.15lbs. Is this offical?:confused:
It is claimed to be official but provisional. It refers to the 6-speed 176 kW version. There is no value given for the 141 kW RX-8.

Could someone who have the newest AutoBild maybe scan the articte and put it here? It would be appriciated :)

Originally posted by xeos
Could someone who have the newest AutoBild maybe scan the articte and put it here? It would be appriciated :)
I would, but I don't have access to a scanner - sorry. :(

SECOND BEST!!!!! HOW DARE THEY!!!!!! thats freking incredible second best in the world after the mx-5/miata, my my, i wonder what they feel like.......

"WAAAAAAAH THE INTERIOR IS TO QUIET" crazy germans, god i love it
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well what was the verdict anyway? who won?

Originally posted by P00Man
"WAAAAAAAH THE INTERIOR IS TO QUIET" crazy germans, god i love it
I agree, you have to be very careful reading german car mags. German cars usually get a fairly big bonus...

Originally posted by zoom44
well what was the verdict anyway? who won?
none
They say: Result:
Respect, Mazda. A car that's different. That earn sympathy, price is good - mileage unclear.
Completly different: 350 Z: more powerful, heavier, more classic
Interesting, how the japanese have reinvented their models (ancestors).
Both have nearly no competition - Europeans are missing.
Audi is weaker, older, more expensive. TT get's hard competition.

so a comparo with no real result. sounds kinda wishy-washy to me. also why mention the the unknown mileage of the 8 with out saying something about the good or bad mileage of the others?

Originally posted by zoom44
so a comparo with no real result. sounds kinda wishy-washy to me. also why mention the the unknown mileage of the 8 with out saying something about the good or bad mileage of the others?
There is a table that mentions mileage, but in the review there are hardly hints that they even drove the cars. (Well, some.)
The text is not worth to call it a review.

wow, thats freking horrendous
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