View Full Version : Lighting Mods with Stealth and LEDs and the third brake light
D MENAC 7 02-15-2004, 04:48 PM I've been playing around with changing out the lamps and things on my 8. A lot of members have been doing the same and I thought I would post a few pics of some of the mods I have been working on.
The first is of the third brake light. I haven't seen anyone do this on here yet and I might get flamed for being ricey but, rice is in the eye of the beholder. This mod I wanted to do is to have the third brake light display the RX-8 logo when applying the brakes. My first thought was to cut a vinyl to go over the clear lens but I didn't like the result because I ouldn't match the color well enough and it looked a bit home made. I didn't photo it because I didn't even want to keep the image.
So, next I thought about doing it stealth like so that when you look at it without the brake light on, you see nothing more than you normally see. It took some thinking but I came up with the proto type in the pics below. I still want to modify this before I am through.
The third brake light consists of three main parts. One is the outer clear lens. The second is the middle red lens that disperses the light. The last is the rear part that holds the lamp unit and is also red. I'll post pics of this later since I will be taking it apart again for a final change.
Here is the result in a quick and sloppy gif. I'll post stills and close ups after this post.
D MENAC 7 02-15-2004, 04:50 PM It's hard to photo the lamp as it flashed the RX-8 logo. I worked on it and still couldn't get it to be as clear as it looks in actuality.
D MENAC 7 02-15-2004, 04:51 PM Herre is a close up of the third brake light. This looks much better in person due to the difficulty of taking the photo of a red light.
D MENAC 7 02-15-2004, 04:52 PM The logo which is an insert in the red lens piece needs to be a bit smaller since the clear lens is a little smaller than the red lens, that is the change I am planning to do tomorrow.
D MENAC 7 02-15-2004, 04:57 PM Another thing I have done is to change out the tail/brake lamps to LEDs and to change out the clear and amber lamps to "stealth" type lamps. No color but the red lens and silver bulbs.
D MENAC 7 02-15-2004, 04:59 PM Here is a photo of the tail light lit along with the reverse light lit and the turn signal flashing.
D MENAC 7 02-15-2004, 05:04 PM Front lights. I am having a hell of a time reaching the turnsignals on the front. They must have tiny elves put them things together because I cannot even get close to getting my hand in there though I haven't gone through the wheel well yet...
I did manage to change out the running lights with 6 LED 194 lamps. Here are a couple of pics with this showing. I like it because it looks a little bluer than the stock incadescent 194s.
Note, I also put clear side marker lenses on, thanks goes to SIN who no longer has his 8.
D MENAC 7 02-15-2004, 05:07 PM Here is a shot of the front with the xenons on and the LED running lights. Though the clear corners look yellow, the lamp is the stock until I get the amber LEDs I ordered this weekend.
D MENAC 7 02-15-2004, 05:10 PM Does anyone know what kind of lamps are on the sides of the tail lights?
D MENAC 7 02-15-2004, 05:15 PM A nice pic of my 8.
neit_jnf 02-15-2004, 06:39 PM Originally posted by D MENAC 7
Does anyone know what kind of lamps are on the sides of the tail lights?
I read somewhere that they're not replaceable and the whole tail light assembly needs to be replaced when they go out.
How long does a LED lasts?
D MENAC 7 02-15-2004, 06:49 PM From what I have read, 100,000 hours. However, that's from the advertisers, though I know they should last a long time and much longer than incadescents.
neit_jnf 02-15-2004, 07:03 PM 100,000 hrs wow
that would be 22.8 years using the lights 12 hrs per day every day...
By the way, LOVE the pictures!
kristopher_d 02-15-2004, 07:19 PM The cut out on the RX-8 Logo needs to be thicker. Too much light still passes through it.
D MENAC 7 02-15-2004, 08:07 PM Yes, I agree. That is the result of being in front of the red lens instead of behind it. I am working on a piece that will be color matched to the car that will slip in the clear lens. Will post what that looks like soon.
Omicron 02-15-2004, 08:46 PM Nice job man, looks good. FYI, to get at the front turn signal bulbs, you have to go through the wheel wells.
Also, can you post a more detailed "DIY" type thread on how you did that rear high-mount brake light? That's pretty nice...
D MENAC 7 02-15-2004, 09:40 PM Originally posted by Omicron
Nice job man, looks good. FYI, to get at the front turn signal bulbs, you have to go through the wheel wells.
Thanks. I remember reading about that in the manual and figured I would have to go through the front wheel wells but haven't had good enough weather to do a lot of work on it yet, the old hands get cold.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Omicron
[B]Also, can you post a more detailed "DIY" type thread on how you did that rear high-mount brake light? That's pretty nice...
Will do so soon and have a few ideas to try yet. I have to take it apart again so when I do, that's when I will take some photos and put together some instructions.
Thanks for moving this to the proper place, didn't quite know where to put it at since most of it was audio in this section.
Omicron 02-15-2004, 09:57 PM Hey, not a problem on the move. Now that you know it's here, I'll probably remove the pointer from the other forum too.
Keep us posted on this!
93rdcurrent 02-15-2004, 10:21 PM Looks great and I don't think it's rice at all. Very stealth. I think of rice as being "over the top" and hey will someone notice me? This has class. If I may ask would you P/M me and let me know how much you would charge to make one up.
93rdcurrent 02-22-2004, 10:26 AM I installed mine last night and it looks great! The whole thing only took me about 20 min. and it was very simple. Good instructions. I will post some pics as soom as I can take them. Thanks D Manec 7!
Kushballah 02-22-2004, 10:29 PM anyone making a DYI for these? would be good. materials, procedure, everything. id do something myself if it only takes 20 mins n not alotta $$$... not rice at all IMHO...
93rdcurrent 02-24-2004, 12:54 PM P/M D Manec 7 and ask. I ordered mine from him and it is reasonably priced. I was very happy with it but he cannot discuss price on the forum so the P/M is the best option.
Kushballah 02-25-2004, 09:15 PM yep...i plan on ordering from him within a week... looks very very cool.
93rdcurrent 03-04-2004, 01:39 PM On saturday I met up with another RX-8 owner and they were really impressed with the brake light mod. This seems like a pretty popular look.
doccable 03-04-2004, 05:11 PM Just installed mine yesterday:D What an amazingly quick, easy (about 25 minutes or so), and inexpensive mod! I must say I'm quite pleased with it! Thanks, D Manec 7!
D MENAC 7 03-07-2004, 10:34 PM Originally posted by doccable
Just installed mine yesterday:D What an amazingly quick, easy (about 25 minutes or so), and inexpensive mod! I must say I'm quite pleased with it! Thanks, D Manec 7!
Thanks doccable. I appreciate the comlements. I am happy to share this with the Forum community. If anyone wants one, let me know. Thanks.
93rdcurrent 03-25-2004, 04:13 AM Remember way back when and I said I would post some pics... well I finally got one. Here is the pic from my Vancouver, BC trip thanks to Inconsequential.
neit_jnf 03-25-2004, 04:47 AM AAAAAHHHHHHH!! MY EYEESSSSS!! I'M BLINNNNNDDDDD!!!!!
D MENAC 7 03-25-2004, 07:19 AM Originally posted by neit_jnf
AAAAAHHHHHHH!! MY EYEESSSSS!! I'M BLINNNNNDDDDD!!!!!
Yeah, ain't light a bitch to photograph? To get a good photo of light, as such, you have to shut the iris down a bit or use a spot meter, if your camera is equipped, and put the spot on the light source to allow it to set it's self.
Thanks 93rd!
93rdcurrent 03-25-2004, 01:13 PM Yeah Incosequential was just learning his new camara. Next time I am in BC we are going to take more photos. I hope it won't be too long ;) .
neit_jnf 03-25-2004, 04:40 PM Actually I love the picture! It reminds me of japanimation robots for some reason... Menacing red eyes looking at you!! :D
StealthTL 03-25-2004, 05:03 PM I bought the foglight from Canzoomer, and wired it to the rear lights. There is a switch to shut it off, if needed, but it is mostly 'on'.
The stock bulb and reflector create a blinding 'laser beam' straight back, so had to go, built a cluster of 7 LEDs in place of the bulb....much better!
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D MENAC 7 03-25-2004, 06:22 PM Pretty nice looking. I've wondered about those and wondered what kind of lighting they had. Now I know. I think the LEDs look better.
93rdcurrent 03-25-2004, 07:03 PM When I get my rear fog light installed I am going to keep it stock only because we get so much thick fog over here sometimes that it would come in very handy. My wife has a rear fog light on her Audi and it comes in very handy. Works good on tailgaters too.
Omicron 03-25-2004, 08:08 PM Originally posted by 93rdcurrent
When I get my rear fog light installed I am going to keep it stock only because we get so much thick fog over here sometimes that it would come in very handy. My wife has a rear fog light on her Audi and it comes in very handy. Works good on tailgaters too. Taligaters is when you'd want the "laser beam" mode. Fizzzzzzzzle....POP! (No more tailgater) :D
D MENAC 7 03-25-2004, 09:42 PM I dunno, I always wanted missles, I like big explosions and if a laser would just disentigrate them, it wouldn't be fun. :D
Omicron 03-25-2004, 11:19 PM Sure it would. :D
Speed-ER doc 03-26-2004, 05:34 AM Looks like the flame from the batmobile. That'd be cool if you could vary the light output with the RPMs.
D MENAC 7 03-26-2004, 07:10 AM Da da da da dada da da da da da da dada da da BATMAN....BATMAN Into the Batcave Robin
93rdcurrent 03-26-2004, 12:37 PM If you like explosions maybe a mine layer would work better. That way as they continued to move forward in a ball of fire they would continue to trigger new mines... Could have some possibilities for a new mod in the future?
D MENAC 7 03-26-2004, 04:50 PM or at least the next bond movie...shaken, not stirred...
arexeight 09-11-2004, 08:45 PM I just put all LED side-marker/brake lights around the oustide of my 8, except for turn signals. My ABS and TCS lights came on immediately upon starting the car. I put back the old OEM bulb into the high center brake light and the idiot lights went out. Has anyone else seen this problem?
I bought them from
http://autolumination.com
they were informative on use and fast on delivery.
D MENAC 7 09-11-2004, 09:31 PM Never. I even tried this and it didn't effect mine at all. I didn't like the effect on the third brake light with the LED hyper whites, though. So, I never left that one in. Other than that, the only incadescent lamps I have left are the front left and right turn signals and the rear driver side turn signal. The other rear turn signal is an LED and that makes them blink really fast. I will eventually change them out to LEDs, I just haven't had the time. Even my license plate light isn't incadescent. I made a custom license plate housing and used a neon tube to light it.
93rdcurrent 09-13-2004, 03:34 PM Pics please... :)
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