View Full Version : StopTech big brake kit installed
VividRacing.com 02-12-2004, 04:09 AM Just thought I'd log in real quick and let every one know. Just got home from work, it's 2:55 am, and I am tired. Our StopTech brake kit came in yesterday and we installed them today. The rotors are 2 piece 355 x 32mm slotted.The calipers are 4 piston calipers Red anodized and come with AXXIS Ultimate pads, Stainless Steel front brake lines, and brakets and hardware. Fit ment was quite easy. Bleading the lines takes some time. Haven't bedded them in yet, we spent the whole night prepping the cars for photoshoots for Turbo Mag and Modified Mag thurs, fri, and the following monday. I will post some pics tomorrow and have a write up soon. Good night to you.:)
Speed Racer 02-12-2004, 08:45 AM Sweet! You'll have to let us know what you think of them after you have had a chance to run the car on the track.
Sanguine_Dark 02-12-2004, 09:16 AM Can't wait to see it!
Huff...for some reason i knew you guys would be the first...02:55!! and you're sleepy!!what's wrong with you..sleep is for wimps...lol...
you need a 7mth old daughter...
let us know how it goes...although..i painted my calipers recently so i won't be too quick to jump on this mod yet...
Sputnik 02-12-2004, 09:57 AM Only the 2-wheel kit Huff? Do they offer a 4-wheel kit?
---jps
mmmdowning 02-12-2004, 11:01 AM Can't wait to see!
VividRacing.com 02-12-2004, 11:28 AM Originally posted by XeRo
Huff...for some reason i knew you guys would be the first...02:55!! and you're sleepy!!what's wrong with you..sleep is for wimps...lol...
you need a 7mth old daughter...
let us know how it goes...although..i painted my calipers recently so i won't be too quick to jump on this mod yet...
OK so I'm a wimp. My hats off to all those with the little ones. I guess I can always sleep on the week end:D
VividRacing.com 02-12-2004, 12:07 PM Originally posted by Sputnik
Only the 2-wheel kit Huff? Do they offer a 4-wheel kit?
---jps
Yep, they only offer a front kit as of right now. They don't have any plans to offer an upgraded caliper for the rear. The R&D department says that after they tested the car they found the balance of the car to be perfect and that it only needs a front kit for most applications. I'll keep you guys posted how the progress goes and I'll be putting them to use in a road race event next week.
mikeb 02-12-2004, 01:23 PM great, I want to see pics also
congrats on the photoshoot cant wait to see that too
are you guys bringing the rx8 to Hot import nights in LA on march 6th, I would love to see your 8 again.
VividRacing.com 02-12-2004, 03:41 PM I'm sure we'll be out there for HIN in march. Won't be able to post pics today as we are down to the wire getting the cars ready. I should be able to get some posted by tomorrow.
mikeb 02-12-2004, 04:36 PM see ya at HIN
I can't believe its 30 bucks to get in the show
I remember in 99 when it was 10 bucks
ranger4277 02-12-2004, 04:41 PM If you really wanted larger brakes in the rear, would it be feasible to transfer your old fronts to the rear? Yes the balance is perfect as you say and there isn't much reason, but would this be possible? I would think it a much more cost effective solution than buying a seperate set of rears later on.
VividRacing.com 02-13-2004, 01:06 AM Hmmm. That's funny, when I click on this thread it doesn't show the replies though the previous page shows that there are more than 10.
VividRacing.com 02-13-2004, 01:19 AM Originally posted by ranger4277
If you really wanted larger brakes in the rear, would it be feasible to transfer your old fronts to the rear? Yes the balance is perfect as you say and there isn't much reason, but would this be possible? I would think it a much more cost effective solution than buying a seperate set of rears later on.
Really that's not a bad idea, though it's not possibile on the 6spd unless we fabricate a bracket to reset the caliper to work with the larger diamiter of the front rotor. However now you got me thinking about this so tomorrow I'll inspect the front calipers again and check it out. Mabey the whole unit will swap over. Hmmm... thanks for the idea. I'll get back to you on that.;)
Sputnik 02-13-2004, 10:04 AM Originally posted by VividRacing.com
Really that's not a bad idea, though it's not possibile on the 6spd unless we fabricate a bracket to reset the caliper to work with the larger diamiter of the front rotor. However now you got me thinking about this so tomorrow I'll inspect the front calipers again and check it out. Mabey the whole unit will swap over. Hmmm... thanks for the idea. I'll get back to you on that.;) I know several people who have looked at the front-to-rear swap in other cars. The one thing that always messes it up is that there is no provision for the parking/emergency brake on the front calipers. And normally, by the time you go through all of the engineering for new brackets and rotors, you might as well put a lighter aftermarket caliper back there instead.
---jps
ranger4277 02-13-2004, 11:43 AM Originally posted by VividRacing.com
Really that's not a bad idea, though it's not possibile on the 6spd unless we fabricate a bracket to reset the caliper to work with the larger diamiter of the front rotor. However now you got me thinking about this so tomorrow I'll inspect the front calipers again and check it out. Mabey the whole unit will swap over. Hmmm... thanks for the idea. I'll get back to you on that.;)
Worthy of a discount perhaps? :) haha
If you guys haven't thought about taking your project 8 to rotary revolution, you should consider it. It would grab a lot of attention!
I was thinking last night about this...
aesthetically speaking...this would drive me nuts...you would think they (Stoptech) would at least have manufactured rear rotors to match the front...i mean just becuase i'm fanatical about everything looking 'right' i would flip a nutty if my front rotors were slotted or drilled and the rear stayed the same flat machined aluminum rotors...
anybody else freaky like that???? or maybe it's just me,...
MichRX7 02-13-2004, 12:55 PM Originally posted by ranger4277
If you guys haven't thought about taking your project 8 to rotary revolution, you should consider it. It would grab a lot of attention!
Yeah, what he said! :D
mazdaexe 02-17-2004, 07:38 PM any close up pics of the brake kit huff?
:)
VividRacing.com 02-18-2004, 02:40 PM I'll have some later on this week.
shelleys_man_06 07-05-2004, 11:58 PM Vivid, did you ever get around on reporting any results of the Stoptech FBK? Was there any improvement on the stopping distance? I'm pretty skeptical about getting bigger brakes. The stock brakes are as big as they can get. I would've just upgraded the pads, but I guess people can't see those :mad:. Was there any significant difference in brake bias? I would suppose that it would give the front more; I'll have to get my nerd on, but not now, I'm tired :o . Keep us posted :).
waijai 07-06-2004, 12:29 AM Stopping distance is not really the point of a big brake kit. Big brake kits are more for resistance to brake fade and increased heat capacity. Oh and great looks too! :)
Kwullen 07-06-2004, 07:40 AM I guess after 5 months, we're not going to get more info on how they worked, or pics?
Sputnik 07-06-2004, 11:23 AM Originally posted by waijai
Stopping distance is not really the point of a big brake kit. Big brake kits are more for resistance to brake fade and increased heat capacity. Oh and great looks too! :) That depends on the kit and it's intentions. There are several BBKs out there for other cars that are intended to decrease stopping distance, in addition to other desirables.
---jps
Omicron 07-06-2004, 11:46 AM Originally posted by XeRo
I was thinking last night about this...
aesthetically speaking...this would drive me nuts...you would think they (Stoptech) would at least have manufactured rear rotors to match the front...i mean just becuase i'm fanatical about everything looking 'right' i would flip a nutty if my front rotors were slotted or drilled and the rear stayed the same flat machined aluminum rotors...
anybody else freaky like that???? or maybe it's just me,... That would drive me nuts too.
VividRacing.com 07-06-2004, 11:56 AM Originally posted by shelleys_man_06
Vivid, did you ever get around on reporting any results of the Stoptech FBK? Was there any improvement on the stopping distance? I'm pretty skeptical about getting bigger brakes. The stock brakes are as big as they can get. I would've just upgraded the pads, but I guess people can't see those :mad:. Was there any significant difference in brake bias? I would suppose that it would give the front more; I'll have to get my nerd on, but not now, I'm tired :o . Keep us posted :).
Yeah, I guess I forgot about this thread. We did do some stopping distance tests with the AutoEnginuity scan tool. It has a provision to figure braking distance like what they do in Road & Track when they test a car. In stock form the car goes 60 to 0 stopping in something like 115-117ft. After the brake kit was installed and broken in we reinacted the test. Our 60 to 0 distance was reduced to an average of 101ft over three runs. By now the pads were nice an hot and getting really grabby so we decided to do a 70 to 0 run just for giggles. The result was 111ft on average of two runs, (would have done 3 runs but I think someone let the cops in on our little party and we had to tuck tail and run). The decreased stopping distance was a great benefit though also as stated; for better heat dispursion and greater brake modulation with hardly no fade. They seem to work well on and off the track though they work almost too well for street driving. I had to stop super quick a couple weeks back because a car got side swiped right infont of me and I was able to keep clear even though I was following too closely and by all rights probably would have been a casualty as well had I not been able to stop just that much quicker with greater control. The only down side is that because the brake work so well, the truck behind me almost creamed me because I stoped so fast. I was fine though shaken up a bit. I remember hearing the screaching of the truck brakes behind me and just waiting for the impact. He luckely was able to pull off to the side of me to avoild hitting my rear. His brakes smelled like they were on fire. So as far as I'm concerned they paid for them selves just in saving me from the accident.:)
Ned M 07-06-2004, 05:03 PM Originally posted by Kwullen
I guess after 5 months, we're not going to get more info on how they worked, or pics?
If you can scare up a copy of the June 2004 Sport Compact Car, the JIC RX-8 featured in there had the Stop Tech 14" kit but I could not find online pics at their site. The magazine had 3 or 4 pictures showing the brake kit.
shelleys_man_06 07-06-2004, 05:18 PM Thanks Vivid for the update :). Is the kit good for the long run? I'm still pretty skeptical about burning thousands of dollars for a brake kit that I might not enjoy. How's the pedal feel? Is it about the same as stock? I'm not really that strong; I don't want to have to use my entire weight just to go from 30-0 (exaggerating).
VividRacing.com 07-06-2004, 05:42 PM The long run so far has been exceptional. I would recomend these to anyone who needs a little bit more for the track. The pedal feel is more firm though it doesn't require tons of force for he brakes to stop. Just the opposite. The idea here being that larger brakes will stop shorter with less effort. Greater modulation of the pedal is also a benefit. I don't think you'll have any problems getting them to stop for you no matter how much you wiegh.
shelleys_man_06 07-06-2004, 10:07 PM Okay. Thank you Vivid. I've never owned a car with a BBK, so I have no idea what the pedal feel is like.
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