Anybody map out what happens to toe and camber on the rear when you lower from stock? (Or raise toward stock level from lowered.)

http://www.blackhaloracing.com/shopmanual/esicont/en/srvc/html/BHE021101016W01.html

Don't the alignment height specs say something? Or am I missing something

Naw, never mind... doesn't mention toe

when you lower you will have more camber and more toe in, when raise it will have less camber and toe out.

now imagine both occurring at the same time

which is why running without a rear swaybar should never, ever be considered, had to learn that one the hard way .... :rolleyes:

when you lower you will have more camber and more toe in, when raise it will have less camber and toe out.Thanks.

now imagine both occurring at the same time

which is why running without a rear swaybar should never, ever be considered, had to learn that one the hard way .... :rolleyes:
Interesting comment...

I ran my car w/o a rear sway at a wet/drying event recently. The back-end felt like it was doing some funky things at times.

when you lower you will have more camber and more toe in, when raise it will have less camber and toe out.

Have you verified this? Most production cars will gain toe-in as the rear end goes up to keep people from spinning off the highway while braking for off ramps. It's also possible that this is achieved through bushing compliance though.

:dunno:i installed eibach pro springs on my 04 rx8. rb sways front and rear. stock shocks. had my local mazda dealer to do a four wheel alignment . and they reported no change needed alignment good. and i sure dont notice a problem. just pissed that i spent 90 dollars and didnt need to. expensive knowledge.....

More expensive than you think ....

^ hehe, he wont get that.

I can't win either way :lol:

Have you verified this? Most production cars will gain toe-in as the rear end goes up to keep people from spinning off the highway while braking for off ramps. It's also possible that this is achieved through bushing compliance though.

I recently raise my car back up from my sagging mazdaspeed springs to progressive auto x springs, and I went to do the alignment and I got less camber and toe out.
you could verified your self buy marking a center line on your tires and measure the distance from the left tire center to right tire center then jack your car up a little and measure it again......