If true... then...whoa Nelly!

ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/Investigation/saddam_oil_vouchers_040129-1.html)

damnit!

No.....

France took bribes from Saddam!!!!

I thought this was common knowledge?

shows how closely everyone really follows this stuff..

not common knowledge or confirmed before now. it was just speculation, innuendo and rumour. now it is a documented fact.

yea, i pretty much came to this conclusion after France's repeated objections to the war...i figured for a nation to stand so strongly against the US they'd have to have been taking bribes or receiving some sort of compansation for it

fairly good article
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2004/01/pollack.htm

I find you really have to dig to get a balanced look at things.. and by no means is this article ballanced.. better than a lot I see though

Also this confirms why France and Russia didn't want to stop the Oil-for-food program when its contract was up. heeh they cited that Iraq needs to be clear of WMD before senctions could be lifted!


(heritage is a conservative group.. sorry.. couldn't find a unbiased link quickly)
http://www.heritage.org/Research/TradeandForeignAid/em879.cfm

From that article...


"Palestinian Territories
The Palestinian Liberation Organization: 4 million
Abu Al Abbas: 11.5 million"

Well, well, well.......They are ain't so po', and they sure ain't proud.. they will take cash from anyone it seems.......hmmmmmm...just like a down and out hooker...

are you guys kidding there was no bribe he just threatened to use his navy and France surrendered. lol

Originally posted by Spinny 3ngls
are you guys kidding there was no bribe he just threatened to use his navy and France surrendered. lol

:D

reminds me of this (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/victories.html)

which leads to this (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html)

oh man best links ever...

Originally posted by klegg
From that article...


"Palestinian Territories
The Palestinian Liberation Organization: 4 million
Abu Al Abbas: 11.5 million"

Well, well, well.......They are po', and they sure ain't proud.. they will take cash from anyone it seems.......hmmmmmm...just like a down and out hooker...

when you crap, does your brain hurt?

Anyways, I don't understand how you get "Saddam bribed france?" from that article. Reading comprehension >> you.

Originally posted by cumpressor4u2nv
when you crap, does your brain hurt?

Anyways, I don't understand how you get "Saddam bribed france?" from that article. Reading comprehension >> you.

you sure are one angry individual...is this what you mean by "Showing people what it means to be called the Cumpressor Professor"? can we just call you Cum Professor for short? :D j/k...even though i know you'll take this the wrong way, i'm only teasing

ok BRx8 that google link was the funniest thing I have seen all week. thanks.

Originally posted by BRx8
you sure are one angry individual...is this what you mean by "Showing people what it means to be called the Cumpressor Professor"? can we just call you Cum Professor for short? :D j/k...even though i know you'll take this the wrong way, i'm only teasing

Why would you label me as an "angry individual" simply because I disagree with someone saying the palestianians aren't "po'" because one palestinian has oil? So, i dont really understand what you're trying to say in your post...

in anycase, you can argue that bush took over iraq for its oil, which is essentially different means to the same end. And here is what I don't understand: Saddam owned his county's oil, and he bartered it to some people that had helped him. Since when did he have to go to the US and ask for permission to do something with what he owned.

Wrap your heads around this, you don't own the world, nor do you have the right to decide what other people do with what's theirs. So stop acting like you do already.

Originally posted by cumpressor4u2nv
Why would you label me as an "angry individual" simply because I disagree with someone saying the palestianians aren't "po'" because one palestinian has oil? So, i dont really understand what you're trying to say in your post...

no :)

my comment has nothing to do with the context of any of your posts, your disagreements are more than welcome (in fact i find you one of the more intellectual posters on this board, believe it or not :)) and encouraged in such debates...what i'm referring to is just your attitude and tone conveyed in some of your latter posts...i don't know, maybe it's just the way you are or maybe i'm just reading into things more so than i should...in any case, like you said to me, one sometimes needs to heed his own advice...i think this is the appropriate time :D

Originally posted by cumpressor4u2nv
when you crap, does your brain hurt?

Anyways, I don't understand how you get "Saddam bribed france?" from that article. Reading comprehension >> you.

No, but yo' mama's mouth gets full..See. i can insult people I do not know too!!!

And I did not start the post, I was only making a point...

As I have said many times in the past, it is easy to insult someone on the net. Of course, face to face you would be "picking up your teeth with broken fingers...." but fortunatly for you, we will never be face to face...

Let your true colours show klegg. I am quite certain that merits a banning, or at least I would hope it would.

What part? The fact I insulted you back, pointing out that you were acting like a child, or the constant point I make, that It is easy to insult someone who you will never meet...certainly there is a cause and effect relationship between what people say, and the reactions of others, which is avoided on the net...I have a feeling you would not talk to me that way in person...as someone with some intellect, I would think you would get my point...

A for my "true colors"? I never liked taking crap from idiots whom I have never meet, and never said a bad word too..if that is a crime, then I am guilty..

In this case, you are reminding me of another person who posts on this issue, in that you assume what I think. If you had bothered to read my older posts, you would know that I:

1) Do not think we should have gone in to Iraq.

2) Do not like our current president , not even a little.

3) Do not like our forign policys, not even a little..

4) Feel real bad for the innocent arabs and jews who are getting killed because of corrupt poltics

I began on this thread pointing out the corruption....that is the point. For whatever reason, you do not agree, so instead of addressing this like an adult, you go off half cocked and insult me....I point this out, and now you are pouting....hmmmmmm are you a 15 year old idealistic idiot too? Or is it just a bad day? Thats ok, vent on me if you want, I am always here to help folks get by their personal issues..

Originally posted by klegg
What part? The fact I insulted you back, pointing out that you were acting like a child, or the constant point I make, that It is easy to insult someone who you will never meet...certainly there is a cause and effect relationship between what people say, and the reactions of others, which is avoided on the net...I have a feeling you would not talk to me that way in person...as someone with some intellect, I would think you would get my point...

A for my "true colors"? I never liked taking crap from idiots whom I have never meet, and never said a bad word too..if that is a crime, then I am guilty..

In this case, you are reminding me of another person who posts on this issue, in that you assume what I think. If you had bothered to read my older posts, you would know that I:

1) Do not think we should have gone in to Iraq.

2) Do not like our current president , not even a little.

3) Do not like our forign policys, not even a little..

4) Feel real bad for the innocent arabs and jews who are getting killed because of corrupt poltics

I began on this thread pointing out the corruption....that is the point. For whatever reason, you do not agree, so instead of addressing this like an adult, you go off half cocked and insult me....I point this out, and now you are pouting....hmmmmmm are you a 15 year old idealistic idiot too? Or is it just a bad day? Thats ok, vent on me if you want, I am always here to help folks get by their personal issues..

Edit....You are 20, that tells me what I wanted to know...when you were born, I was in collage. AIDS was called "gay cancer" and the south african situation was our big cause....and you know, I did not want to hear any other point of view, because I was soooo sure mine was the only one....you will grow out of it...right around when you move out on your own and start to grow facial hair..:)

Originally posted by klegg
No, but yo' mama's mouth gets full..See. i can insult people I do not know too!!!

And I did not start the post, I was only making a point...

As I have said many times in the past, it is easy to insult someone on the net. Of course, face to face you would be "picking up your teeth with broken fingers...." but fortunatly for you, we will never be face to face...


This really is not what our RX-8 forum is all about,
Sure is nasty.

Originally posted by klegg
No, but yo' mama's mouth gets full..See. i can insult people I do not know too!!!

And I did not start the post, I was only making a point...

As I have said many times in the past, it is easy to insult someone on the net. Of course, face to face you would be "picking up your teeth with broken fingers...." but fortunatly for you, we will never be face to face...


Doug Green was Banned for much less than this!!!!!

Originally posted by klegg
No, but yo' mama's mouth gets full..See. i can insult people I do not know too!!!

And I did not start the post, I was only making a point...

As I have said many times in the past, it is easy to insult someone on the net. Of course, face to face you would be "picking up your teeth with broken fingers...." but fortunatly for you, we will never be face to face...

Klegg,
You seem to think that these comments are "a-ok" as long as your posts indicate a track record of saying the 'opposite.' If you can show me where I told you that I orgasm into the oral oriface of your mother until its full, then maybe you have an argument that I insulted you or something. My insult was based on the fact that you insinuated that the Palestinians, based on a dubious source, received oil, makes the "palestinains are po," your words not mine, incorrect.

Until then, I stand by my comments. And your point that because I'm young I'm ignorant, while possibly true, is one of the weakest ways to discredit someone's argument. Resulting to personal insults is usually reserved for those that have arguments sans merit, which apparently you do. Your comments are unjustified, and I request an apology for myself and the members of the board.
Regards.

cumpressor4u2nv wins this debate hands down!!!!!

First off, I did not say I would orgasm into your mothers mouth...and I really feel badly that you took it that way...YOU began the insults by asking if my head hurts when I crap...Meaning I think with my ass, or have shit in my head, probably true, but still an insult!

I answered back, implying that my head did not hurt when I defecated, but that someones mouth did get full 0f defecant! So it is not semen, but feces going into the oral cavity.....just to set the record straight...I would NEVER say I was spewing semen into your mothers mouth..that would be as rude as saying someone has crap in their head..Now that I think about it, I am really offended that you would cast me in such a light...

The point of course being that I could be childish too, that it was not the way to have a debate, and that people like yourself think it is ok to insult folks on the net, when they are safely annonomus, when in real life you would not talk to me that way, as there would be painful consequences to that action......but this was lost on you.

You then got angry, because you are:

1) Still relatively immature. (not an attack, you are young)

2) perceiving my message as an attack on your still developing masculinity

3) Upset with this info comming to light, because it makes you doubt your position....

4) actually very much like our friends overseas...you think you can say whatever insult you want, and then have the guts to get angry when someone fights back!!

and lets face it, my response was pretty dam good..nothing gets a person angry like a good retort..

Now, I could have edited the post, and would have if you calmed down, and asked nice...after all, I am not into making people unhappy, I am more of a clownish sort after all. Well, you are fairly new to the site, so maybe you do not get that almost nothing I say is ment in anything but jest.. But no apology from you, and you keep going with this nonsense, so on and on we go. I am not to worried about getting banned, as you did insult me first, way I figure, if I go, you go..

Now, back on topic, to again make my point...the Palestinians cry poverty, and are angry at the jews, because the jews are not taking the mass death of their citizens lightly, and do not trust them. ... ..all the while they are taking cash from the man who launced missles at isreal during the golf war....when they (isreal) were NON COMBATANTs....

hence the irony....again seemingly lost on you..

I did make one mistake, I ment to say "they ain't po.." I fixed that now..thanks for pointing that out.....

Now, why do I feel so strongly about this? because both of my cousins, with whom I am very close, had a near brush with death while overseas, when some poor deluded fool decided to blow himself up at a cafe. So, unlike you, and I suspect most other people here, I have first hand experience with the situation ...

Now, to continue on your level(which started after all with your implication that I have crap in my head), I have already cleared up the semen thing, so I will wait your apology for saying I had crap in my head.....and insulting me first....somehow, I think I should not hold my breath..

Of course, we could always have our fathers fight it out....you have a chance there, mine is in his 80's...but he is still full of piss and vinegar..:D

Originally posted by RX_999
Doug Green was Banned for much less than this!!!!!

No, Doug Green was banned for offensive homophic comments and attacking people both in public and in private. And since you appear to be him, I advise you to drop this topic of conversation. Next time you bring it up, I *will* ban you.

And to the rest of you- come on- we're all adults here. No need for the insults. Most of you are pretty calm people (usually), so I don't understand what all the fuss is about. In any case, stop with the attacks. Klegg and BRx8, your comments are pretty uncalled for and rude. Closing.