View Full Version : Fog lights...LED vs HID...
OchoShinka 04-28-2010, 08:07 PM Alright,
so I NEVER run my fogs because frankly, halogen mixed with an HID just looks retarded to me. I want to fix this so I can use them since they are there and well, I want to use them. I have tried my best to research and so far feel like it's just a matter of choice between HID and LED. My problem is, I don't want anything beyond the factory HID look(4300K). A few Ebay kits advertise 5000K to be the best thing for HID, and for the cost I can go to an LED kit with less hardware to install, but I'm having trouble finding an H11 LED that burns at 4300K.
Has anyone found a reliable LED or HID that matches the factory HID's? At this point I don't care about price as long as it's not obsured and the quality/warranty are on par.
I suppose it would be nice to find matching parking lights well since mine look pretty yellow glaring from the headlight lense as well.
Hoping to find matching 4300K hardware as I don't want to jump to 6K just to make sure everything matches glowing from the front, suppose I will if I have to. I would just prefer to find matching stuff so I can order it and be done with it.
Thanks,
Eli
oops....this was suppose to go into the Series 1 section, I goofed and didn't pay attention to where i put this thread. If a mod with some free time could move this for me I would really appreicate it. Sorry for the mix up :(
Derex'8 04-29-2010, 05:42 AM V-LEDS.com and/or vvme.com
SpencerM1 05-09-2010, 06:19 PM www.Yo_Mama.com
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OchoShinka 05-10-2010, 11:59 AM You don't even own an 8 yet and your already talking sh*t on the boards. Ricer :)
Benz05ZZ 05-15-2010, 01:24 AM or you can go yellow...like this
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm289/Benz01GS/rex2.jpg
SpencerM1 05-19-2010, 12:01 AM You don't even own an 8 yet and your already talking sh*t on the boards. Ricer :)
No longer my friend. Pics of the R3 coming soon! Of course its basically the same as the others posted but it is mine! =P
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OchoShinka 05-20-2010, 06:42 PM Finally!
Congrats man, I hope you enjoy it!
Twiztog43 05-21-2010, 04:46 AM HIDs!
i just converted mine!
3K, freaking awesome, much more visibility
RX8bleach 06-07-2010, 02:36 PM Alright,
so I NEVER run my fogs because frankly, halogen mixed with an hid headlights (http://electronicfiend.com/hid-kits/)
just looks retarded to me. I want to fix this so I can use them since they are there and well, I want to use them. I have tried my best to research and so far feel like it's just a matter of choice between HID and LED. My problem is, I don't want anything beyond the factory hid kits (http://electronicfiend.com/hid-kits/) look(4300K). A few Ebay kits advertise 5000K to be the best thing for HID, and for the cost I can go to an LED kit with less hardware to install, but I'm having trouble finding an H11 LED that burns at 4300K.
Has anyone found a reliable LED or hid kits (http://electronicfiend.com/hid-kits/) that matches the factory HID's? At this point I don't care about price as long as it's not obsured and the quality/warranty are on par.
I suppose it would be nice to find matching parking lights well since mine look pretty yellow glaring from the headlight lense as well.
Hoping to find matching 4300K hardware as I don't want to jump to 6K just to make sure everything matches glowing from the front, suppose I will if I have to. I would just prefer to find matching stuff so I can order it and be done with it.
Thanks,
Eli
oops....this was suppose to go into the Series 1 section, I goofed and didn't pay attention to where i put this thread. If a mod with some free time could move this for me I would really appreicate it. Sorry for the mix up :(
hids is the best choice. :yumyum:
ninjajim4 06-11-2010, 02:21 PM HIDs just plain don't belong in foglights. period. unless all you care about is looks in place of functionality.
there is a reason that no car manufacturer makes HID fog lights
Twiztog43 06-12-2010, 02:37 AM HIDs just plain don't belong in foglights. period. unless all you care about is looks in place of functionality.
there is a reason that no car manufacturer makes HID fog lights
im sure my HIDs were way brighter than the stock halogens. im not sure about you, but mine are pretty functional.
ninjajim4 06-12-2010, 05:27 PM im sure my HIDs were way brighter than the stock halogens. im not sure about you, but mine are pretty functional.
brighter isn't always better. that's why you don't turn on your high beams in foggy conditions. or i don't know. maybe you do...
Krazed_Rx8 06-12-2010, 06:24 PM ^ Brightness leads to more visibility, how is that not better?
laythor 06-12-2010, 06:35 PM ^ Brightness leads to more visibility, how is that not better?
no, no it doesn't.
mcain 06-12-2010, 10:40 PM question on this (sorry to thread-jack, but it may result in good info for your purchase)...
I understand that white light (especially at high levels, causes greater reflection from fog which naturally has a high RFI, thus reducing visibility), but wouldnt HIDs with a yellow tint, via lense-overlay perhaps, provide greatly improved visibility in such conditions (given this may not go along with the aesthetics some are looking for) ?
OchoShinka 06-13-2010, 11:33 AM If your going for functionality, yes, you want an amber light to emit from your fogs. Halgon isn't going to make any bit of difference as an HID would in a Foggy situation. I don't think an overlay will justify the right light output to counter the Fog though. You will want a bulb that emits an amber light. There are some out there, not sure where or how much. I am sure PIAA makes one, they make everything in a bulb.
Personally, I don't need an amber light for Fog driving. I live in TX in a suburb, so far in 2010 there has been only one day that it has been Foggy enough to have needed amber lighting. My commute is extremely short(7.5 miles one way). For that short of a drive and that one time a year, I won't need amber lights. I rather get matching bright driving lights so I can see down those dark roads that for some reason are paved but have no lighting systems setup. So for me, it will be practical to have a bright fog/driving light vs an amber light. If I lived in a climate that had a lot more fog I, no doubt, would go for the amber color instead.
Back to the topic though, I am going to go with an LED bulb for this setup. I wanted to get HID's to match, but for the complexity already involved in swapping bulbs, the LED setup will be a lot more practical. Just have to find a bulb now that is between 4300K and 5000K. I put some 5000K LED parking lights in a few weeks ago, they match the Headlights really well!
OchoShinka 06-14-2010, 09:32 PM HIDs just plain don't belong in foglights. period. unless all you care about is looks in place of functionality.
there is a reason that no car manufacturer makes HID fog lights
Yea, it's called cost savings.
Benz05ZZ 06-15-2010, 09:57 PM Yellow Fogs FTW...
Hyper White, "Cool Blue", etc...only convert your functional front fog lights into accessory lighting. Personally, I believe in Form AND Function. Yellow tinted, or even HID 3K "yellow" Fogs are the best for this combination; otherwise, you risk looking "looking cool" when you drive your car into something on the one foggy day where you live.
...just my .02...
OchoShinka 06-16-2010, 04:31 PM I'm starting to get sold on the idea to make them amber/yellow.
The HID's are doing fine keeping the road lite up during night time driving. I'm looking at these now :-)
http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED/DRLFOG-LED/H11/2-V-LEDS-AMBER-68-M-SMT-p7472495.html#ReviewsTabAnchor
cooleric2000 07-14-2010, 04:58 PM I think most fog lights are yellow, but umm.. are there white ones?
Benz05ZZ 07-21-2010, 02:26 PM I think most fog lights are yellow, but umm.. are there white ones?
There's a difference between yellow because they are halogens and "Hyper Yellow" which looks like a yellow crayon. I think Hyper Yellow fogs look the best, especially with blueish tinted HID low beams. Makes the car look more professional, and well rounded. when you have HIDs mixing with "yellowish" halogen bulbs, it looks like crap.
just me .02.
jefecito87 10-04-2010, 11:26 AM www.ddmtuning.com cheap hids good warranty and they look good i run 5000 all the way around just PURE white same with my girls car i put 5000 on hers amazing difference
L337fpc 10-04-2010, 12:50 PM i put hid fogs in, so nice and bright. Im running 5000k and its awesome.
RogueTadhg 10-17-2010, 05:23 PM Awesome over functionality. I travel a lot so the awesomeness would be best spent in seeing in foggy, and/or snowy nights.
paulmasoner 10-17-2010, 05:48 PM for HID to be remotely functional in fog, they have to be the R type and be used with their appropriate lenses. D1R, D1R, etc. these are the ones that have the ligh/dark "cutoff beam like the OE Xenon's do
RogueTadhg 10-17-2010, 05:55 PM searching for "R type hid" brings up a lot of civics...
paulmasoner 10-17-2010, 05:56 PM so dont search for that. just find your choices and make sure you choose the right one, D1R vs D1S for example
Nopstnz8 01-01-2012, 10:57 AM Sorry to revive and old thread, but I am looking to add an HID kit to my fogs so I can get greater output on backroads at night so I can see farther in the distance than my OEM xenon's and high-beams currently produce. Would adding an HID kit to the fogs allow me to see farther and not interfere with the HID projector beam in the headlights? I'm basically trying to convert my fogs to driving lights, but keep the OEM housings, if that's possible and not too expensive?
With what paulmasoner said regarding D1R HID kits, how would I go about fitting these into the H11 housing of the foglight? Are there H11 to D1R adapters? Will a D2R kit work in the fogs on the Rx8?
Also, regarding actual usage during heavy fog, which I rarely see, but encounter every now and then, should I be looking at 3k mainly, or would 4300 or 6k be fine?
Nopstnz8 01-09-2012, 08:40 AM Anyone?
slvrstreak 01-09-2012, 08:43 AM HIDs in the fogs are brighter than OEM but, not as bright as the projector headlights because the reflective housing in the fogs scatter the beam
i use 6K H11s to match the 6K high beams have
Nopstnz8 01-09-2012, 10:22 AM HIDs in the fogs are brighter than OEM but, not as bright as the projector headlights because the reflective housing in the fogs scatter the beam
i use 6K H11s to match the 6K high beams have
What about the "R" type HID kits? Would you say I should be looking more for a driving light instead?
slvrstreak 01-09-2012, 11:03 AM sorry man i dont know about the D1Rs :dunno:
just sharing what I do know
the HID fogs wont shine as far as the low beams either because they don't have projectors to direct the light
they are brighter than OEM fogs though and light up the road pretty good close to the car
warren(silver-roxy-8) 01-09-2012, 11:16 AM @Nopstnz8: http://evo-r.net/product/RX-8/index.htm
When you click this link, scroll down a little bit and you will find an HID foglight kit with projector lenses and urrthang.
The beam from the foglight will mix with the beam from the headlight; you'll notice this especially if you are running two different color temperatures, but it shouldn't hinder your nighttime sight
Nopstnz8 01-09-2012, 03:34 PM @Nopstnz8: http://evo-r.net/product/RX-8/index.htm
When you click this link, scroll down a little bit and you will find an HID foglight kit with projector lenses and urrthang.
The beam from the foglight will mix with the beam from the headlight; you'll notice this especially if you are running two different color temperatures, but it shouldn't hinder your nighttime sight
Thanks. I totally forgot about these as I inquired about them a few years ago, but at the time was set on something else. Actually, just checked a message I sent him back them... he wants $400 for that setup, so forget that because I HIGHLY DOUBT they're worth half that.
Still looking for a much cheaper and better solution. These are just fog lights anyways, so I'm not looking for something state of that art, just something to get by for a relatively good price that'll last. If it were headlights, that's another story.
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