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Lord ET
03-11-2010, 04:35 PM
Well anything you want to say....say it here, now. Argue with Thomas. (Riley Craven)

Thomas I don't think you're really cajun

Riley Craven
03-11-2010, 05:07 PM
Well anything you want to say....say it here, now. Argue with Thomas. (Riley Craven)

Thomas I don't think you're really cajun

Well you can think what you want, but you'd be wrong.

First, while just growing up in Louisiana doesnt make one cajun, my heritage definitely does. My line flows all the way back to when the Acadians were kicked out of what is modern day Canada by the British, and migrated to modern day Louisiana. see this for further details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acadians

"In the Great Expulsion of 1755-1763, mostly during the Seven Years' War, British colonial officers and New England legislators and militia deported more than 14,000 Acadians from the maritime region in what could be called an ethnic cleansing ante litteram. Approximately one third perished. Many later settled in Louisiana, where they became known as Cajuns."

My great grandmother only spoke french, and this was during a time when French as a language was literally beaten out of people, and my grandfather still to this day speaks french.

Now as for as me being cajun besides my line, I grew up in a cajun family in a cajun lifestyle learning the ways of Mardi Gras and all the accompaniment that goes with it. We often remarked that anything North of I-10 are considered yankies. While I did grow up only a mile south of that border I was definitely growing up cajun.

While I understand that this thread is all in good fun, at this point I would like to say that it is fun for me as well, and I wouldnt "argue" with so many people if I didnt get some enjoyment or humor from doing so :)

deadphoenix52
03-11-2010, 05:09 PM
wtf thomas?!

Riley Craven
03-11-2010, 05:10 PM
wtf thomas?!

What?! you said we should argue more!

9krpmrx8
03-11-2010, 05:11 PM
I didn't think they allowed Cajun's into TCU :lol:

deadphoenix52
03-11-2010, 05:12 PM
i am arguing. what on earth are you doing? and whatever that is...i'll bet you're doing it wrong.

:)

tubingchamp
03-11-2010, 05:13 PM
.i'll bet you're doing it wrong.

:)

http://www.breakitdownblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/doing_it_wrong_bike.jpg

Lord ET
03-11-2010, 05:15 PM
that is thomas...the wreckless driver...erm flyer

Riley Craven
03-11-2010, 05:17 PM
i am arguing. what on earth are you doing? and whatever that is...i'll bet you're doing it wrong.

:)

I'm being (or doing) Thomas in this case, therefore it is impossible to do it wrong, because being oneself cant be done wrong. :)

Riley Craven
03-11-2010, 05:18 PM
I didn't think they allowed Cajun's into TCU :lol:

Hey, just because I'm cajun doesnt mean I am stupid and wasnt a good student! :P

deadphoenix52
03-11-2010, 05:21 PM
I'm being (or doing) Thomas in this case, therefore it is impossible to do it wrong, because being oneself cant be done wrong. :)

you're absolutely the worst thomas i know.

WHAT NOW!?!

JoeHawk
03-11-2010, 05:22 PM
i am arguing. what on earth are you doing? and whatever that is...i'll bet you're doing it wrong.

:)

Mod Edit: Political Posts are against RX8Club rules.

9krpmrx8
03-11-2010, 05:23 PM
Hey, just because I'm cajun doesnt mean I am stupid and wasnt a good student! :P


Haha, I guess you are an exception to the stereotype then :)

My best friend in the Navy was from New Iberia, LA (proud cajun) and I went home on leave to party with him and his girlfriends there and let me just say they were all crazy. Fun as shit, but crazy as hell.

Riley Craven
03-11-2010, 05:27 PM
Mod Edit: Political Posts are against RX8Club rules.

Riley Craven
03-11-2010, 05:29 PM
you're absolutely the worst thomas i know.

WHAT NOW!?!

I'd said I need more data to prove you wrong. I dont know the other Thomas's you know to see what basis to which you are comparing us. What I do know is that none of them have the essence that is "me". Further even if they did have my essence, being the worst is not the same as being wrong :P

Riley Craven
03-11-2010, 05:34 PM
Haha, I guess you are an exception to the stereotype then :)

My best friend in the Navy was from New Iberia, LA (proud cajun) and I went home on leave to party with him and his girlfriends there and let me just say they were all crazy. Fun as shit, but crazy as hell.

Indeed, I'm from Lafayette myself, and I can tell you the CRAZY I've seen. Why the heck do you think I stayed in Texas anyway?! :)

deadphoenix52
03-11-2010, 05:35 PM
I'd said I need more data to prove you wrong. I dont know the other Thomas's you know to see what basis to which you are comparing us. What I do know is that none of them have the essence that is "me". Further even if they did have my essence, being the worst is not the same as being wrong :P

i hate you

Riley Craven
03-11-2010, 05:37 PM
i hate you

Well I cant argue with your feelings, cuse you are feeling them afterall....

9krpmrx8
03-11-2010, 05:49 PM
Mod Edit: Political Posts are against RX8Club rules.


Wow, I couldn't have put that better myself :)

JoeHawk
03-11-2010, 05:57 PM
Wow, I couldn't have put that better myself :)

LOL this isn't the agree with Thomas thread.. geez.. next thing you know he'll think he's right all the time!

Riley Craven
03-11-2010, 06:01 PM
LOL this isn't the agree with Thomas thread.. geez.. next thing you know he'll think he's right all the time!

The world of Thomas is sorta like the US legal system. I'm right until proven otherwise.... :)

KWarner04
03-11-2010, 07:30 PM
Mod Edit: Political Posts are against RX8Club rules.

robrecht
03-11-2010, 07:59 PM
First, while just growing up in Louisiana doesnt make one cajun, my heritage definitely does. My line flows all the way back to when the Acadians were kicked out of what is modern day Canada by the British, and migrated to modern day Louisiana. My people escaped into Louisiana from the opposite direction, from Haiti, so maybe that makes me anti-Cajun? You're definitely right 'bout Cajuns being crazy and like to party. Cajuns are fun.

Riley Craven
03-11-2010, 08:27 PM
Mod Edit: Political Posts are against RX8Club rules.

Riley Craven
03-11-2010, 08:31 PM
My people escaped into Louisiana from the opposite direction, from Haiti, so maybe that makes me anti-Cajun?

No that just means your Hatian descended :)

rodjonathan
03-11-2010, 08:34 PM
hold on im lost what is the thread for??

Riley Craven
03-11-2010, 08:39 PM
FRACKING MODS. We all fricking know each other in PERSON. I swear we are going to have to use thetexas forums just to talk to each other. No one asked for this thread to be moderated. Mind your fricking business.

Mod Edit: A One Day Ban for attacking a Moderator.

Riley Craven
03-11-2010, 08:46 PM
I've managed to save all of the deleted posts using my back button. If you want to see them, I post them on my blog.

http://questioningthenorm.blogspot.com/2010/03/modded-posts-from-rx8clubcom.html

seatownracer
03-11-2010, 08:58 PM
FRACKING MODS. We all fricking know each other in PERSON. I swear we are going to have to use thetexas forums just to talk to each other. No one asked for this thread to be moderated. Mind your fricking business.

Mod Edit: A One Day Ban for attacking a Moderator.

Lol this is hilarious......

tbk
03-11-2010, 09:04 PM
rofl badass

KWarner04
03-11-2010, 09:06 PM
Not attacking...just think it's funny that only the topics that are "DFW Inside Jokes" are the ones that get people's feathers ruffled.

My apologies for "talking politics" on the board...but I don't see how friends talking on a forum is any worse than this (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=135466). I understand the point of it which is to keep people from flaming each other, but this was a conversation between two people and neither of us were offended. It's like we were calling each other idiots or something immature like that (which happens on every other thread).

I'm all for moderation...but let's be honest, there's a lot more stuff that should be moderated than the those of us in DFW having fun.

I think it's about time we went the way of Indy and Houston and just setup our own board...

JoeHawk
03-11-2010, 09:13 PM
I think it's about time we went the way of Indy and Houston and just setup our own board...

Not a bad idea..

seatownracer
03-11-2010, 09:18 PM
So was Thomas (RileyCraven) even given any sort of a notice about the potential of being banned??

JoeHawk
03-11-2010, 09:21 PM
So was Thomas (RileyCraven) even given any sort of a notice about the potential of being banned??

I'm going with no.... At least its just till tomorrow night.

KWarner04
03-11-2010, 09:24 PM
Nope...he was upset that his posts (and mine and Rowlett's) were deleted and in typical fashion, made a comment about the mod. That's what got him banned, not the original posts.

I'll probably be emailing the admins (per their rules here (http://www.rx8club.com/faq.php?faq=forum_rules#faq_user_conduct)) because this is the first time I've seen a thread post deleted...yet so much other stuff flies...

Grungepup
03-11-2010, 09:37 PM
wow

KWarner04
03-11-2010, 09:43 PM
The thing I think is the "most funny" is the political discussion posts got deleted, but not the one "attacking the mod"...

Grungepup
03-11-2010, 09:46 PM
interesting argument.......

deadphoenix52
03-11-2010, 09:52 PM
wow. i missed a lot. dang. looks like i missed the good stuff too

Creto
03-11-2010, 11:41 PM
so this means we can attack thomas and there's nothing he can do about it for a day?


SWEET!

deadphoenix52
03-11-2010, 11:50 PM
lulz. i made a thread on the texas8 to discuss thomas getting banned

9krpmrx8
03-12-2010, 12:02 AM
wtf :lol:

WTBRotary!
03-12-2010, 12:39 AM
sigh

seatownracer
03-12-2010, 11:49 AM
sigh

That's all you got? I thought you would of unloaded on Thomas.....

Red_Fox
03-12-2010, 11:55 AM
lawl at this thread :lol:

Riley Craven
03-12-2010, 08:15 PM
Oh man have I been waiting all day to make this post.
Where to start, where to start....

First, let's break down the post that got me banned:

"FRACKING MODS" <- In all modern convections of the English this is NOT an attack ON the mods. So if it's not an attack what is it saying? It says that I'm pissed off that you deleted all of the hard work I put into my posts, without warning. Did I call you names? Did I threaten you? Did I threaten people you know? It would be one thing if I had done so, but as can be clearly seen by EVERYONE on these boards this was NOT an attack.

"We all fricking know each other in PERSON." True statement. Not an attack

"I swear we are going to have to use thetexas forums just to talk to each other." Not an attack

" No one asked for this thread to be moderated." True statement, and again also not attack

"Mind your fricking business." Again not an attack, telling someone to "shove off" is not attack, in fact it's the exact opposite, in doing so this moves the two parties away from each BEFORE there is a need to resort to attacks.

Second, let's talk about the posts that you moderated.
Yes, there is a rule on the forums for not discussing politics. This is not in dispute. What is the issue here is that A. you did not warn any of us before deleting our discussions, and B. that you moderated the posts at all. But wait Thomas, rules exist for a reason, and they must be applied without prejudice. Yes, rules do exist for a reason; they generally prevent the world from going into chaos. However, not all rules are enforced to the same degree as others. Cops on the street have discretion. Does it make since to stop jaywalkers 100% of the time; does it make since to pull someone over for going 1 mph over the speed limit? In both cases the answer is no. And we frequently see cops not enforce rules that are even stricter than these. In any case, many cops use what we call WARNINGS as a way to deter people from breaking the rules. This says hey if you didn't know this rule existed I'm letting you know so you can get your act cleaned up, but again you didn't use this tool.

So why am I writing a long post about all of this? Because you, as a mod, are ABUSING your powers, and this is what has me ANGRY. The founding fathers understood all too well that power corrupts ALL people. It's a fact of human nature. This is why they made sure to put in protections such as guaranteed rights to freedom of speech. They understood that if someone was given ANY power to regulate speech that it would be abused. The problem is that if you are going to regulate speech you have to determine what is and is not acceptable. When you decide on that line you effectively decided that ALL speech can be regulated. It's simple, if there is any line at all people can BEND that line to suit their wants/desires/ motivations. AN example of this is the Patriot Act allowing the government to tap any line they want without a warrant. See the problem with the "reasonable expectation to privacy clause" that requires the cops to get a warrant is that over time this protection erodes. Did you have a reasonable expectation to privacy on the phone before the Patriot Act? Yup. Do you have it now? Nope. Once you start on that slippery slope there is NO turning back. My point in all of this is to say that you are playing VERY loosely with your interpretation of what it means to ATTACK someone, and thus are wielding your power inappropriately. Apparently you're ok with bending the rules ONLY when it suits you, but that's ok, cuse after all you are the one in control.

So I'm asking you, since you have all the power, where do you draw the line? The rule is, No political discussion on this forum. OK, so what classifies as a political discussion? Does that mean we can't mention factual events that have happened in this country? We went to war with Iraq. Or does it mean that we can't talk about the reasons we did so?(please see post number 32 of this thread http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=148464&highlight=Iraq&page=2) Does it mean that we can't talk about things that are locally screwed up? The roads in DFW are trash because politicians aren't dedicating enough time/ resources to fix the issue! Or can we only say that the roads suck? (see post 138 http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=165640&highlight=roads&page=6) And why ONLY political speech? Do people get any less bitchy on these boards when discussing other topics such as what oil to use, if premix is necessary, is the PS3 better than the 360 (http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=180700&highlight=politics&page=4), etc, etc, etc. I can call someone an idiot for ANY number of reasons, but its only banned if he's a democrat/republican idiot? Seriously? You guys say you are trying to prevent flame fests, but they happen EVERY DAY here without any action from you.

Oh and if you want to call me out for not sending this "through proper channels", please do, cuse my response is going to be that it's pretty hard to send crap to you guys when your email address to address these issues DOESN'T WORK.
"Hello,

Your message could not be delivered because of previous failures during delivery attempts to this mailing list. Please update the list with valid addresses."

KWarner04
03-12-2010, 08:28 PM
You better screenshot that shit. I'm sure it'll be gone soon enough...

KWarner04
03-12-2010, 08:30 PM
That's all you got? I thought you would of unloaded on Thomas.....

He's "too busy" with his new car to argue with Thomas right now.

Riley Craven
03-12-2010, 08:35 PM
You better screenshot that shit. I'm sure it'll be gone soon enough...

God forbid you try to reason with people using logic and evidence to counter them.... I mean seriously....

WTBRotary!
03-12-2010, 08:39 PM
He's "too busy" with his new car to argue with Thomas right now.


Word... Haha :)

deadphoenix52
03-12-2010, 08:39 PM
me thinks fits gonna hit the shan real soon.....

Elara
03-12-2010, 09:21 PM
Okay, seriously? I don't even know what happened, and I don't even know where to start with any of this---- BUT- this is a PRIVATE board. Freedom of speech doesn't apply here. If you want to know why political discussions are banned, do a search. It's been debated over, and over, and over and over. Mods are usually nice here, and DO give reasons/warnings, etc. However, sometimes, it doesn't happen for whatever reason. No one's abusing their powers- they're just doing their job. The one they, for whatever reason, volunteered for. No one's trying to piss anyone off, go on a power trip or anything else. This is a FORUM ON THE INTERNET, not real life. Quite frankly, if you're getting upset about crap on here, perhaps you need to log out for a bit. And if this continues, we can make sure the logout is permanent. And that's not me on a power trip, that's me trying to keep this place as civil for as many people as humanly possible.

Thread closed. Don't want to see any more discussion on this.