View Full Version : Can you lock the car with your keys OUTSIDE of the car?
always.anthony 01-12-2010, 02:53 PM as the title says.
i've tried everything, but i can't seem to have the car lock up with the keys outside of the car.
e.g. i want to leave my car running, as i NEVER turn off the car just to turn it back on
(filling up gas)
(dropping stuff off at friends house/picking something up)
i hate leaving my car unlocked and not being able to see it, but i do it, leaving no valuables inside, and hoping no one can drive stick lol
and by the way. i have the credit card its a 2008 40th anniversary
9krpmrx8 01-12-2010, 03:04 PM If you leave your car running while you pump gas you are retarded.
Gr8Bullet 01-12-2010, 03:11 PM ^ :lol:
dozer 01-12-2010, 03:12 PM :rofl:
xun4gvn4everx 01-12-2010, 03:14 PM :mdrmed:
ZachLegend 01-12-2010, 03:21 PM bahahahahhaha. Ok, now I can go to work.
dozer 01-12-2010, 03:22 PM socal invasion?
tubingchamp 01-12-2010, 03:24 PM If you leave your car running while you pump gas you are retarded.
Totally agree.
Jesus christ, want to die by fire or what?
You realize that your engine is combusting the same thing you're putting in the tank, AS you're doing it, right??
tubingchamp 01-12-2010, 03:25 PM But yes, take the aux key out, or carry your spare key, and put it in the lock manually. Turn to the RIGHT.
JinDesu 01-12-2010, 03:25 PM I do it when I'm running inside a store to grab something. Just use the key itself.
I.e. Car running. Close door. Take key out. Insert in keyhole. Turn one direction or another (I'm pretty sure, turn counter clockwise to - tubing's corrected me above. Turn clock-wise.). Tada - locked!
I'm not sure if it locks both sides, but technically the passenger side could be locked while the car is running from the inside anyways.
Glitched 01-12-2010, 03:44 PM If you have the credit card (adv. keyless) and no valuables inside the car, they won't get very far even if they did know how to drive stick
XlYesterdaYlX 01-12-2010, 03:44 PM filling up the car with gas while it's still running huh...? I don't think you should stop. :)
Soaring Eagle 01-12-2010, 06:56 PM If you have the credit card (adv. keyless) and no valuables inside the car, they won't get very far even if they did know how to drive stick
Actually, the car will remain running without the key inside, until it runs out of gas. But if a thief turns the ignition off, it will not start again without the key.
ZumnRx8 01-12-2010, 08:06 PM If you leave your car running while you pump gas you are retarded.
^ :lol:
:rofl:
:mdrmed:
bahahahahhaha. Ok, now I can go to work.
filling up the car with gas while it's still running huh...? I don't think you should stop. :)
:rollingla
OOOOPSS???????
http://i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu183/picon58/misc%20forum%20images/18951943_240X180.jpg
ARE-EX-8 01-12-2010, 08:18 PM Is that photoshopped?
ZumnRx8 01-12-2010, 08:19 PM Lol
tubingchamp 01-12-2010, 08:22 PM Is that photoshopped?
Probably not..
Alot of people die every year in gas station fires due to having their CAR RUNNING AND/OR SMOKING WHILE FILLING UP..
:nono:
Is that photoshopped?
NO my friend that is the work of Google...
ARE-EX-8 01-12-2010, 08:26 PM Wow i didnt know people actually let their cars run while filling up. Like are people stupid or what. I mean it makes sense to shut off the engine.....no
They say there's an idiot born every minute. Scary but true. --- No disrespect Anthony we still love you
ken-x8 01-12-2010, 08:36 PM Wow i didnt know people actually let their cars run while filling up. Like are people stupid or what. I mean it makes sense to shut off the engine.....no
Used to be common in the old days, especially in the winter. It wasn't til the 1960s that they realized it was not a good idea and the rule became to shut down while gassing up.
Now the winter hazard is people who get back in their cars while filling up.
Ken
rodjonathan 01-12-2010, 08:41 PM honestly i still do it only with the 8 sometimes especially in the winter coz i cant turn the car off if its still cold and i usually fill up right by my house ... i dont wanna flood the engine! :( i guess i should stop doing this huh lol
JinDesu 01-12-2010, 09:10 PM honestly i still do it only with the 8 sometimes especially in the winter coz i cant turn the car off if its still cold and i usually fill up right by my house ... i dont wanna flood the engine! :( i guess i should stop doing this huh lol
Lol.. I'm fortunate, I have a BP near me, but I only fill up at Shell which I can take a pretty long detour off to.
Drive around a bit first or something =p
ZachLegend 01-12-2010, 09:12 PM honestly i still do it only with the 8 sometimes especially in the winter coz i cant turn the car off if its still cold and i usually fill up right by my house ... i dont wanna flood the engine! :( i guess i should stop doing this huh lol
Don't do that. I expect better out of you.
Exploding RX8 < Flooded RX8
plain ole wanker 01-12-2010, 10:54 PM Now you know why you see all those dumb yellow warning labels on everything.
Don't forget your directions for laying sod this spring 'green side up'.:scratchhe
NautyOne 01-12-2010, 11:14 PM If you leave your car running while you pump gas you are retarded.
Thank you sir. This has just made my day.
:rofl:
xexok 01-13-2010, 02:33 AM Used to be common in the old days, especially in the winter. It wasn't til the 1960s that they realized it was not a good idea and the rule became to shut down while gassing up.
Now the winter hazard is people who get back in their cars while filling up.
Ken
Yea, heres a great video on why you shouldnt get in your car when filling up. :yelrotflm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdcPeW1XwKs
always.anthony 01-13-2010, 03:02 AM Nah I don't take offense at all. I'll try to use the spare manual key and report back. I never ever liketo turn a car on and off for a short periood of time . Like said before when pumping gas. I do know Once out stay out. I know one of the hardest things on the car is a start up. And I always ground myself afte gas starts pourin in. I don't see how it's a problem. I just don't see the reason how it's dangerous. I my dad doe it all the time in his diesel. I've seen world record attenpts involving long vehicle use an them adding gas to the boat, car, or motorcycle while driving. I don't see the harm. But I don't mind u guys shedding any light. Ugh it's late and I'm on iPhone. Damn insomnia
Buddy Jesus 01-13-2010, 05:39 AM e.g. i want to leave my car running, as i NEVER turn off the car just to turn it back on
(filling up gas)
Please go to a remote location in the desert and fill up your car there while it's running, fucktards like you cause explosions and kill non fucktards. Go kill yourself.
Buddy Jesus 01-13-2010, 05:41 AM Oh. Cars cause sparks from static electricity build up. There's a small chance of it happening, but when it does your going to blow the entire station to hell. Just because your dad got lucky doesn't mean it's going to be the same for you, and the other innocent people you kill.
Buddy Jesus 01-13-2010, 05:44 AM oh. and it's against the law
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RemiNessin 01-13-2010, 07:19 AM Wow you know it says right by the pump turn off engine and don't smoke but I guess its their for decorations. ..for all the people who do that that's just like pumping gas while smoking a cigarette and blowing it by the tank but worst. I see this all the time trucks,cars and so on doing it next to me and as soon as I notice I stop filing up and leave may sound stupit but one day something is really going to happen because of some fool
tubingchamp 01-13-2010, 09:01 AM Nah I don't take offense at all. I'll try to use the spare manual key and report back. I never ever liketo turn a car on and off for a short periood of time . Like said before when pumping gas. I do know Once out stay out. I know one of the hardest things on the car is a start up. And I always ground myself afte gas starts pourin in. I don't see how it's a problem. I just don't see the reason how it's dangerous. I my dad doe it all the time in his diesel. I've seen world record attenpts involving long vehicle use an them adding gas to the boat, car, or motorcycle while driving. I don't see the harm. But I don't mind u guys shedding any light. Ugh it's late and I'm on iPhone. Damn insomnia
Your dad taught you that, than he's an idiot too.
I think diesel is less likely to flash fire though.
God damn, someone needs to start posting gifs and get this thread owned like his other threads.. I don't think I've ever seen him succeed in asking an even half-brained question.
always.anthony 01-13-2010, 01:54 PM As I've said before, I ground my self. I don't smoke at gas stations. If the cause of the explosion is stati then I'm fine. I stay out o the car untll it's finished and I ground my self...
If u guys are observant you'll notice truckers filling up while the engne is running aswell. I don't see how having the engine run while filling up makes a difference. IF it's gong to explode, it's going to explode.
No one has actually explained why this is dangerous, just flaming. If it's only static shocks, then I'm set, I ground myself.
Buddy Jesus 01-13-2010, 02:09 PM If fumes get into your ignition while it's on it will cause a fire.
RIWWP 01-13-2010, 02:38 PM Static is a problem, but it isn't the only problem. You also have:
- Ignition source (hot exhaust piping) low to the ground if there is a spill (do a search on here about the 8 overflowing when pumping. Quite a few people have that problem, not always with warning).Turning off the car allows this to immediately begin cooling, reducing the risk that if there is a spill that the heat will cause a cumbustion. And yes, our exhaust is hot enough. That's why we get backfires and shooting flames.
- Ignition source (electrical components) throughout the car can ignite fumes. A perfect car still has a very real potential for open electricity. Most of the car's electrical power is grounded to the chassis for return to the battery, which has the entire potential of arcing at any point. This stuff degrades over time, increasing the risk significantly as time passes. Even simple stuff like a fuse not completely seated in the fuse box could be causing a constant arc that could ignite fumes. I suspect that the single biggest source of arcing is from degrading spark plug wires, where the insulation material has worn away, been cut or chipped (go look where your wires are...that isn't exactly heavily shielded from debris), and they start arcing and grounding out on nearby metal. Turning off the car stops most of this, turning off the lights and removing the key removes all but faulty battery terminals and cables.
I'm not saying that all of this WILL happen to you, but it is a risk that isn't worth taking, and the risk is very very real.
Filling up a vehicle while it is moving is a stunt move anyway (you know, with a warning that says don't try this at home), but the fact that the vehicle is moving automatically removes almost all fume problems.
You can't use Diesel as a reason to do it with gasoline here. Diesel's flashpoint is so much higher than gasoline that the concerns here are nearly impossible to reach when you are talking about diesel fuels. Of course, if you are filling up diesel at a gas station where there is gasoline around, there is still gas fumes, puddles of gas, etc...
THAT's the reason. And for your sake and the sake of your 8, I hope you stop.
If your 8 isn't warm enough, drive around until it is, or get gas farther down the road. If you are running on fumes as it is, then just idle until it's warm at the gas station (not at the pump). You can't flood it if it shuts off due to running out of gas, and if you don't run out, then well, there isn't an issue.
ZachLegend 01-13-2010, 02:40 PM e.g. i want to leave my car running, as i NEVER turn off the car just to turn it back on
(filling up gas)
Please go to a remote location in the desert and fill up your car there while it's running, fucktards like you cause explosions and kill non fucktards. Go kill yourself.
Strong words from someone with 40ish posts !
RIWWP 01-13-2010, 02:41 PM BuddyJesus is an account re-creation with a wiped post count... he's been around quite a while.
Everyone remembers always.anthony from the turbo funding thread that produced the epic Atilla pic win. :)
tubingchamp 01-13-2010, 02:49 PM BuddyJesus is an account re-creation with a wiped post count... he's been around quite a while.
Everyone remembers always.anthony from the turbo funding thread that produced the epic Atilla pic win. :)
Not to mention drifting in the parking lot and beauty of the rx8 with the 05rex8 gif win too..
Just.. Fail less @ life plzthx.
Arguing against the points listed here are retarded, they're just the truth. If wasting 3 minutes of your time is worth your life, and the life of others, along with millions of dollars in damage, you're a moron. :kiss:
ZachLegend 01-13-2010, 03:09 PM / thread close
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Buddy Jesus 01-13-2010, 04:41 PM Strong words from someone with 40ish posts !
My post count is irrelevant considering my common sense is far greater than my post number, as well as my IQ. In essence, making your post irrelevant to the topic or my post completely.
Buddy Jesus 01-13-2010, 04:47 PM The thread title is valid, it's content however is not. Locking your car with the keys in it with a valet key could be handy for morning starts without getting the car jacked perhaps. I'd stick to remote ignition however if that's your desire.
Grungepup 01-13-2010, 05:11 PM The thread title is valid, it's content however is not. Locking your car with the keys in it with a valet key could be handy for morning starts without getting the car jacked perhaps. I'd stick to remote ignition however if that's your desire.
Actually, there you are wrong. If you have a GT and the FOB key, you don't have a key in the ignition. The key just needs to be present for the car to turn over. I have, on numerous times, turned on the car and locked the doors to let it warm up in my drive way while I go back to getting ready to leave, especially these days that it has been unusually cold in Texas.
tubingchamp 01-13-2010, 05:13 PM Yeah, I use the key-card almost every day. So much so that the aux.key fell out into my car and got lost yesterday :'(
It works great if you live in a colder climate.
9krpmrx8 01-13-2010, 05:43 PM Not to mention gassing up while it is running will cause a CEL.
Just because nothing ever happened while doing this does not make it unsafe. In the Navy we had idiots who bitched about not being able to smoke on the flight deck even though we watched video after video of horrible fires on the flight deck. Fuel spills happened all the time. Zippo lighters (A.K.A. flight deck lighters) don't jut go out when they are dropped by accident.
I hate to attack people but damn man, use your head.
KrumbZ 01-13-2010, 06:01 PM get a turbo timer and then put a relay on the entry control module.
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=68116.html
tubingchamp 01-13-2010, 06:14 PM use your head.
Exactly.
Tweek 01-13-2010, 06:36 PM Wow, i thought that was the first thing you do when you pull into a gas station?
always.anthony 01-13-2010, 06:49 PM Static is a problem, but it isn't the only problem. You also have:
- Ignition source (hot exhaust piping) low to the ground if there is a spill (do a search on here about the 8 overflowing when pumping. Quite a few people have that problem, not always with warning).Turning off the car allows this to immediately begin cooling, reducing the risk that if there is a spill that the heat will cause a cumbustion. And yes, our exhaust is hot enough. That's why we get backfires and shooting flames.
- Ignition source (electrical components) throughout the car can ignite fumes. A perfect car still has a very real potential for open electricity. Most of the car's electrical power is grounded to the chassis for return to the battery, which has the entire potential of arcing at any point. This stuff degrades over time, increasing the risk significantly as time passes. Even simple stuff like a fuse not completely seated in the fuse box could be causing a constant arc that could ignite fumes. I suspect that the single biggest source of arcing is from degrading spark plug wires, where the insulation material has worn away, been cut or chipped (go look where your wires are...that isn't exactly heavily shielded from debris), and they start arcing and grounding out on nearby metal. Turning off the car stops most of this, turning off the lights and removing the key removes all but faulty battery terminals and cables.
I'm not saying that all of this WILL happen to you, but it is a risk that isn't worth taking, and the risk is very very real.
Filling up a vehicle while it is moving is a stunt move anyway (you know, with a warning that says don't try this at home), but the fact that the vehicle is moving automatically removes almost all fume problems.
You can't use Diesel as a reason to do it with gasoline here. Diesel's flashpoint is so much higher than gasoline that the concerns here are nearly impossible to reach when you are talking about diesel fuels. Of course, if you are filling up diesel at a gas station where there is gasoline around, there is still gas fumes, puddles of gas, etc...
THAT's the reason. And for your sake and the sake of your 8, I hope you stop.
If your 8 isn't warm enough, drive around until it is, or get gas farther down the road. If you are running on fumes as it is, then just idle until it's warm at the gas station (not at the pump). You can't flood it if it shuts off due to running out of gas, and if you don't run out, then well, there isn't an issue.
wow a real answer. thank you for your input, i will be a lot more careful now.
Not to mention gassing up while it is running will cause a CEL.
Just because nothing ever happened while doing this does not make it unsafe. In the Navy we had idiots who bitched about not being able to smoke on the flight deck even though we watched video after video of horrible fires on the flight deck. Fuel spills happened all the time. Zippo lighters (A.K.A. flight deck lighters) don't jut go out when they are dropped by accident.
I hate to attack people but damn man, use your head.
never had a cel while filling up
and never smoke while filling up
but i HAVE seen people smoke a cigarette while the hand is on the pump. thats another story.
thanks for the answer using the spare key on the credit card. i tried everything else but that, thankss!!!
9krpmrx8 01-13-2010, 07:18 PM You will get a CEL eventually, why do you think you get an EVAP CEL when you have a bad gas cap. Your fuel system is a sealed system. Think about it.
Smoking doesn't mean shit, a running car can ignite fumes.
Wait, WTF, I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall.
always.anthony 01-13-2010, 11:03 PM You will get a CEL eventually, why do you think you get an EVAP CEL when you have a bad gas cap. Your fuel system is a sealed system. Think about it.
Smoking doesn't mean shit, a running car can ignite fumes.
Wait, WTF, I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall.
ummm, rrrrwip or however it is. the kind guy with the white rx8 already explained what could go wrong other than static. i'm now informed on how it could ignite.
before i had no reason to not turn it off, static, as already addressed, i ground my self.
but now i do have a reason to turn it off, multiple actually. thank you once again for actually helping out with your answer RIWWP :wiggle:
have been doing this for almost a year. never had a cel.
RotaryP7 01-13-2010, 11:07 PM Take both keys with you and try locking the car with the other? And please fill up the tank when no one is around.. lol..
Darwin awards here we come!
But yeah RIWWP is right in fact I've heard quite a few horror stories about this please be careful at the gas station it's serious business!
RIWWP 01-14-2010, 08:28 AM wow a real answer. thank you for your input, i will be a lot more careful now.
thank you once again for actually helping out with your answer RIWWP :wiggle:
You are welcome.
At some point, when someone who doesn't know better actually starts asking why, and doesn't seem to be making the jump across assumptions, spelling it out for them is normally appreciated and much more productive than :banghead:
If they don't know any better and AREN'T actually asking why, then yes, I agree. A waste of time.
White_Shadows 01-16-2010, 01:50 PM glad the question was answered lol.
mlfarrell 01-16-2010, 05:02 PM stop the engine? I make sure I redline every time I refuel, while moving. :-D
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