http://www.johntitor.com/

personally i don't believe time travel is possible or will ever be possible but it sure is a fascinating concept...and if it were possible, it should not be done...anyways, check out that thread, read some of the old posts...this guy has a great imagination and is a bit creepy

ditto

Maybe its not necessary. if you conceive that all possible universes exist all at the same moment, then time travel is nothing other than changing dimensions, not time. Otherwise things would always be in disarray from people going back and changing history; how could anything exist with continuity from a practical matter? If you simply change dimensions to a time/space/probability coodinate that was already there, then you're not changing anything at all. Deep thoughts!

Hey, if your website is true than all RX-8 owners are time travelers. Read this from John Titor's website:

"John appeared to answer nearly every question that was asked of him over the 4-month period he was online. Because of that, many people neglected to read the previous posts and asked similar or exact questions he had already answered. It may offer a glimpse of what a time traveler goes through when having the same conversation again and again."

Sound familiar? very creepy...

well i don't think it's possible because it's just too difficult to calculate your arrival destination exactly...i mean, the Earth is constantly revolving around it's axis so simply travelling to an earlier point of time can land you right into the ocean, or worse, right into space! furthermore, what's to say the destination in another point in time isn't occupied by something else like a wall or a another person? then you'd be materializing right on top of that object...



Originally posted by 8_wannabe
Hey, if your website is true than all RX-8 owners are time travelers. Read this from John Titor's website:

"John appeared to answer nearly every question that was asked of him over the 4-month period he was online. Because of that, many people neglected to read the previous posts and asked similar or exact questions he had already answered. It may offer a glimpse of what a time traveler goes through when having the same conversation again and again."

Sound familiar? very creepy...

well it'd be more creepy if John Titor simply answered with "Use the search function, noob!" :D

at least he's an intelligent man of science...i like reading about superstring theory

47. In 2036, string theory still dominates physics due to its continued "effect" of encompassing other physical properties from unrelated fields. A great deal of the theoretical mathematics behind time travel was discovered by testing various ideas in string theory and eliminating the anomalies. As I recall, it was this original work that led to the final proof that six dimensions do indeed curl up to give us our observable universe. This in turn supported more of the theoretical math behind time travel.

48. It's ironic that the beauty of string theory gives future engineers the confidence to create the distortion unit even though the final proof is still unknown. You're a physics student, have you ever heard the Princeton String Quartet play?

<http://superstringtheory.com/>

<http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/science/mysteries_12/superstring. html>

Originally posted by BRx8
well i don't think it's possible because it's just too difficult to calculate your arrival destination exactly...i mean, the Earth is constantly revolving around it's axis so simply travelling to an earlier point of time can land you right into the ocean, or worse, right into space!

well of course you could be traveling in the time machine which would be some kind of vehicle that would allow you to travel within the dimension or time period you would arrive in. so that vehicle to some extent would have to be able to navigate on land, water, air and space. of course materializing inside a wall or a moutain would be nasty. so then it would make more sense to open some kind of portal thru which you could see into the other time period or dimension, before you travel over sort of like the Stargate or like the Guardian of Forever(yes i am a sci fi geek). in fact it would perhaps be nice to have just the viewer at first so that historians and scientists could study events from the past- who really shot jfk, see dinosaurs how they really were, watch the first mammal haul itself out of the oceans etc.

I know for a fact that time travel will not be available to me in my lifetime... or there will be rules against visiting your younger self, even if you know exactly when you are supposed to meet your self and are expecting to meet yourself :).

Oh well. I do believe we will use time dialiation to our advantage in the near future, whether we will have full blown time travel? I think so, it won't be with the scientific knowledge we have right now, something on a scale of magnitude that no one has considered will have to be discovered.

That is if we dont blow each other up first. :).

SMoke up!

Originally posted by zoom44
so then it would make more sense to open some kind of portal thru which you could see into the other time period or dimension, before you travel over sort of like the Stargate or like the Guardian of Forever(yes i am a sci fi geek).

i think something like the Stargate is possible since it borrows from superstring theory and the theory of relativity in that the shortest distance between two points is not a line but, in fact, a point...consider black holes and wormholes, space anomalies that contains so much gravitational force that once entering the even horizon, nothing not even space, time, nor light can escape...if man can somehow contain this immense gravitational force and produce devices that can duplicate it, in theory you can fold space between two points for instant travel faster than the speed of light...

superstring also talks of dimensions, of which there are 7 total...unfortunately it's impossible for us as humans to even fathom what 7 dimensions look like since we are 4 dimensional object (if you include time)...it'd be like asking a 2 dimensional character, like a drawing or a comic book hero, to try and understand 3 dimensions...it's impossible

there are some superstring theorists that believe ghosts and aparitions are actually objects from another dimension, which would explain why they can pass through walls

Well, since it just plain stuck in my mind and won't let me drop it, and since it's Sunday now, here's your Sunday School lesson:

God is omnipresent. That means He is in this time and all other times (in the past and in the future) at the same time. That's a mind blowing prospect, isn't it?

And when we pass "from death, unto eternal life", we will join Him in that ability, where ten thousand years is as but one day, and visa versa.

Alright, I'll spare you the rest of my "sermon". Thanks for allowing me to get it off my chest... :)

Ooh Ooh Idea Idea!!

If we make some type of "stargate", and then make another... we can just travel back to when we made that stargate and no sooner. This could solve the problem of materializing into a wall or something, because we would know the exact location of where we would end up. Does this make sense to anyone else? No... it doesn't make sense to me.

It's late.... I'm tired... I'm going to bed...

Black holes:

nothing can escape from a black hole, still they disapper after a long time. The smaller the original mass is the shorter it's lifetime will be. The small black holes are even a good source of energy at least in theory.

Tamas

Some of the Deep Thoughts in my earlier post are attributed to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams. I just recently finished reading Book 5 of the "increasingly inappropriately-named Hitchhiker trilogy." This is where I picked up on the Infinite Improbability Drive and the concept that probability is simply a dimensional axis just like time, height, etc. Even the most improbable thing will be certain to occur if you position yourself in the right place along the Probability Axis.

Now I'm reading books 1 & 2, and just today read the following passage which is germane to this thread. As you can tell, I am bored awaiting NFL playoffs; my alternative to posting is cleaning the kitchen, so this necessarily will be a long post...

From The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, book 2 of the series:

"One of the major problems encountered in time travel is not that of accidentally becoming your own father or mother. There is no problem involved in becoming your own father or mother that a broad-minded and well-adjusted family can't cope with. There is no problem about changing the course of history -- the course of history does not change because it all fits together like a jigsaw. All the important changes have happened before the things they were supposed to change and it all sorts itself out in the end.

The major problem is quite simply one of grammar, and the main work to consult in this matter is Dr. Dan Streetmentioner's Time Traveler's Handbook of 1001 Tense Formations. It will tell you, for instance, how to describe something that was about to happen to you in the past before you avoided it by time-jumping forward two days in order to avoid it. The event will be described differently according to whether you are talking about it from the standpoint of your own natural time, from a time in the further future, or a time in the further past and is further complicated by the possibility of conducting conversations while you are actually traveling from one time to another with the intention of becoming your own father or mother.

Most readers get as far as the Future Semiconditionally Modified Subinverted Plagal Past Subjunctive Intentional before giving up; and in fact later editions of the book all the pages beyond this point have been left blank to save on printing costs.

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy skips lightly over this tangle of academic abstraction, pausing only to note that the term "Future Perfect" has been abandoned since it was discovered not to be."

If you can deal with such mind-bending stuff, Mr. Adams has created five bookfuls of it, and I highly recommend the series. Besides, it might all be true. :D

God wont allow this

Originally posted by BRx8
i think something like the Stargate is possible since it borrows from superstring theory and the theory of relativity in that the shortest distance between two points is not a line but, in fact, a point...consider black holes and wormholes, space anomalies that contains so much gravitational force that once entering the even horizon, nothing not even space, time, nor light can escape...if man can somehow contain this immense gravitational force and produce devices that can duplicate it, in theory you can fold space between two points for instant travel faster than the speed of light...

superstring also talks of dimensions, of which there are 7 total...unfortunately it's impossible for us as humans to even fathom what 7 dimensions look like since we are 4 dimensional object (if you include time)...it'd be like asking a 2 dimensional character, like a drawing or a comic book hero, to try and understand 3 dimensions...it's impossible

there are some superstring theorists that believe ghosts and aparitions are actually objects from another dimension, which would explain why they can pass through walls

ok.. I am a geek but I love Stargate... great movie and a great series! If I remember correctly there was an episode that they went back to the 70s... it was pretty funny..

but on the mathematical side you should read Hawkings new book, The Universe in a Nutshell. I found that its really good! I found that its great for people who either know nothing about the subject or know a whole bunch on the subject. After having a modern physics course and a theoretical mathematics course I knew just enough for me to struggle with some of the concepts. :)

If your a reader, might I recommend Steven Baxter's Manifold series? Time, Space and Origin. Quite a good read I think.

thanks I will have to check it out!

Originally posted by BRx8
http://www.johntitor.com/

personally i don't believe time travel is possible or will ever be possible but it sure is a fascinating concept...and if it were possible, it should not be done...anyways, check out that thread, read some of the old posts...this guy has a great imagination and is a bit creepy

Didn't we already have this discussion next week?

LOL - Good comment Nubo. (Of course you knew I was going to add that...)

I already did tomorrow, but a mod deleted my post yesterday. :( (Wil be jealous, I guessed)

I read all of John's posts. It was a great read like a book you can't put down, i believed him he presented a truth that is possible. I know the truth i've seen the departure video i wont ruin it for anyone as the journey your mind goes through reading his posts is incredible, but if anyone wants to know the "truth" than feel free to PM me.

I have only started to read them, but all I can say is so-so.

Although VGL is classic. Made me laugh for a while.

Variable Gravity Lock? Or maybe Very Good Lie?

There will never be possible to travel back in time, because if there is there would had been already. Assuming it becomes possible at some future point then, whatever regulations were placed upon it, later or sooner someone would break the rules and would travel to some point in history. As the arrival hasn't happened in the past (and people would have noticed) then the departure will not occur in the future. Leaving aside the strange theoretical arguments of parallel universes, and "if they went back they would create another universe, and all we know is it hasn't happened in this one".

Still, it's a nice thought. I could travel forward a few weeks to when I finally get my car, then take it back to last August and drive it away the same day I ordered, paying for it from the interest the deposit has earned over the next two hundred years.

Granted but perhaps we are the furthest along "worldline" of them all.

Or even more probable we are the only "worldline".

I read that page about 20 minutes before getting tired of the inconsistencies. I seriously cannot believe people fell for that.

Although it was somewhat interesting to see the stuff he makes up at first, it gets to stupid for me.

Its been theorized that future time travel may be possible, but not reverse time travel.

btw dont mix religion with science.. kthx bye

I just read a bunch of the stuff in the posted web site and I'm sorry guys, but most of what's there is just beyond silly. The references aren't even right. Oh, if you do a google search you can match words, but if you really go read the technical articles refered to (and not things from the way things work web site) there is no real substance behind this stuff. It sounds cool and may be fun to read, but don't go mistaking this stuff for science. I guess we will see how true it is by the end of this year when the "civil war" starts. If that happens, you all can get back to me and tell me you told me so. Until then......

Originally posted by Zio
Its been theorized that future time travel may be possible, but not reverse time travel.
That makes no sense. Why would it be one-directional? (would that be omni-directional?)

Originally posted by Positron
If that happens, you all can get back to me and tell me you told me so. Until then...... I did tell you so, tomorrow.

Omni means all, uni means one

and 8_wannabe - I had to post that so that you could say that. Besides its better to throw people off the track. They were getting too close.........

Originally posted by jonalan
That makes no sense. Why would it be one-directional? (would that be omni-directional?)

Actually, that would be uni-directional.

But it's all smoke and mirrors at this point in time. As stated before, I cant beleive anybody actually beleived that guy. Maybe I should do something like that if I ever have the free time for it. Guy must have been unemployed for a while.

Originally posted by Zio
Its been theorized that future time travel may be possible, but not reverse time travel.

btw dont mix religion with science.. kthx bye Hey, this just got me wondering...if John Titor had a group of desciples that followed him around when he was in this worldline, and they wrote a book, would that start a new religion? A cult, at least?

I guess that's already happened though, huh? Hehe. Gimme some time to catch-up with it all...doh!

if you think about it, the car is kind of like a time machine:

what's through the windshield is the future
the cabin is the present
and what's in the rearview is the past...

of course, that's if you're moving forward =P

i was under the impression that Mr. Einstein ruined time travel for all of us with his E=mc^2 business...unless there's some way of travelling through time without using relativistic speeds (no i haven't checked out the link, sorry if my comment is completely ignorant)

Time travel is NOT POSSIBLE

If it were,

then how come I don't see anyone coming from the future???

Although travelling into the future is possible

Just freeze yourself and thaw out after a thousand years

Presto!