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arghx7
12-19-2009, 08:44 PM
I think there's a lot of confusion floating around about what inspection "readiness" really means.

Here's how it works. OBD II was designed to make tailpipe testing unnecessary. Therefore the PCM tests the emissions control systems on its own. The ECU can't always take a "snapshot" of sensor data to know whether a system is working right. It takes time and certain types of driving conditions to know for sure.

The most common/important tests that need to be flagged "Ready" are:

-- Catalytic Converter test: the PCM monitors rear O2 sensor voltage over time to see if your cat is working right

-- Evaporative system: the test that makes you throw a code when the gas cap is loose. EVAP systems are actually crazy complicated.

-- Oxygen sensor: the PCM checks for a particular signal curve over time. The exact test depends on the sensor's position (Front or rear) and whether it is a wide or narrowband sensor. There's also tests for the the O2 sensor heater.

After you disconnect the battery or clear codes, most of the readiness monitors go to "Not ready."

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=149569&stc=1&d=1261276930


It is a myth that you need to drive x miles for the car to be "ready" for inspection. There's no set number of miles. I've passed inspections after less than 50 miles of driving sometimes. It just depends.

The Do-It-Yourself OBD II Inspection

The best way to determine whether your car is ready for inspection is to hook up to a higher end OBD II scanner if you have one. I have one of the big orange Actron scanners (Actron CP9180) that you usually see being used by auto parts store employees. It was maybe $120 new off ebay when I bought it a while ago.

Now I'm going to demonstrate me checking to see if my car will pass inspection. This is my daily driver, a 1997 Infiniti Q45. My 1988 Rx-7 Turbo doesn't even have a check engine light!

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=149565&stc=1&d=1261276930

The first shot here is of the main menu in the Actron CP9180. I have two choices. I can select "State OBD Check" to get a summary of my readiness monitors and DTC's. I can also select "I/M Monitors" to get a breakdown of all the readiness checks in the PCM. So first I select "State OBD Check."

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=149568&stc=1&d=1261276930

From this screen I can see that the check engine light (Malfunction Indicator Light) is not active. I do have one DTC however, but it is a "pending" code that has not yet tripped the MIL. This number could be "3" if I had two active codes and one pending code.

Then the scantool separates my readiness monitors into 3 categores: OK, Incomplete, or Not Applicable. Any 2001+ car must have all but 1 supported monitor set as "OK." Only 1 readiness monitor can be set flagged as "incomplete." This car will pass an inspection because the MIL has not been set and all monitors are ready. Now let's take a more detailed look at my list of readiness monitors in the "I/M Monitors" screen.

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=149566&stc=1&d=1261276930

Those top three are my continuous monitors. Those three are always active. Any monitor that is not supported is listed as N/A. This particular car has an EGR readiness monitor but it does not have an EVAP monitor.

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=149567&stc=1&d=1261276930

Any monitor that requires some sort of drive cycle is called a non-continuous monitor. Those are the ones you are waiting on when you visit the inspection station. In my experience the Catalyst monitor and the EVAP monitors take the longest to be set.


I hope that clears up some confusion about OBD II inspections and "readiness" tests. Engines don't just arbitrarily become "Ready" after x number of miles or x number of drive cycles. PCM's go through a series of tests to make sure the components are working, and different criteria must be met for every engine. A lot of inspectors really don't understand this system fully. They just do whatever their inspection tool tells them.

arghx7
12-19-2009, 08:53 PM
A sample drive cycle that may help set readiness monitors:

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=149570&stc=1&d=1261277575

shaunv74
12-20-2009, 12:25 PM
Thanks for posting this up. It's very informative.

If there's someone with a service manual: I wonder if it contains the RX8's specific drive cycle requirements.

arghx7
12-20-2009, 02:36 PM
Good idea. Here's the drive cycle in the service manual.

http://www.rx8club.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=149591&stc=1&d=1261341363

shaunv74
12-20-2009, 03:03 PM
jackpot!

That's great stuff.

TeamRX8
12-20-2009, 03:27 PM
It's just standard service manual information :dunno:

buy one and read it, you'll like it ....

.

shaunv74
12-20-2009, 08:35 PM
I ran the drive cycle today specified from the excerpt from the manual. I should be able to bring it in either Saturday or Monday next week and will report back.

arghx7
12-22-2009, 01:58 PM
Service manuals can be tricky to navigate if you don't have much experience with them.

shaunv74
12-28-2009, 04:11 PM
I went back to the emissions testing station today and am still not "ready." they stated the cat sensor and O2 sensor are not ready yet.

I called my Mazda dealer and they said it should take 4-5 drive cycles (cold start to full warm) but that there was no special drive cycle for these sensors just put some miles on the car. Any thoughts or suggestions? At this point I have put 5 drive cycles on the car and ~150 miles on it since I re-installed the AP and cleared the memory.

I think I should be good to go at this point but clearly am not so I'm nervous about not being able to get the sensors to set and not being able to pass emissions before the end of the month. Any suggestions on this would be appreciated.

shaunv74
12-30-2009, 01:08 PM
Just took it back after putting on two more cold start drive cycles and 200 miles on the car and still "not ready" :(

any other specific drive cycle info? Jeff mentioned it may take a certain amount of full warmup cycles due to the cold.

shaunv74
12-31-2009, 11:13 AM
Well I unplugged the AP and as soon as I turned the car off and on again I had a CEL. I had the DTC read and pulled a P0037. Low voltage for H02 sensor #2. So my cat. sensor doesn't seem to be working. That would explain why the sensor was tripping. It's at the dealer now and they're checking it out...

Edit: The dealer has confirmed it's the cat. sensor. They've replaced it and recommended 2-3 cold start to warm up drive cycles. Hopefully I can get this done by Saturday and bring it back for an emissions check.

shaunv74
01-02-2010, 03:27 PM
I passed the OBDII emissions check today. The bad sensor was the problem. Because I had a bad sensor when I reset the computer it could not set the readiness monitor (rightly so). It easily set once the cat. O2 sensor was replaced. The MM AP tune masks this CEL so I didn't know I had a bad sensor until I uninstalled the AP.