Now I know quiet and mid-pipe doesn't go together... I want to know which mid-pipes on the market is known to be the tamest when it comes to sound. I do want the performance benefits of the mid-pipe but I want to put up with one that isn't the loudest. By assumption and a little bit of research, I assume that the BHR DR, RB DR, and Mazsport DR is one of the quietest on the market. I would put Mazsport's into consideration but it's obviously out of production and it's going to be a bitch finding a used one (something I wouldn't mind if I'm fortunate to find one). Any suggestions?

I have the BHR and during cruising it's quiet. Like all catless midpipes it does got loud when you mash on the throttle.

I do expect all mid pipes to be loud when I'm on it. I just want my car to be civilized and be as tame as possible with a mid pipe when I'm cruising around and on the highway.

honestly any midpipe on the stock exhaust is pretty quiet, i have the turboxs mated up to my stockie, when i had a LITTLE leak it was fucken LOUD, i sealed it with a gasket and it sounds stock, the only difference is at 4k rpms, you'll here the rasp, other than that my intake is louder.

I have the Racing Beat dual resonated with the Racing Beat Rev8 exhaust and it sounds almost too much like stock. Might be looking into the Greddy SP2 catback.

I do plan on getting a catback with the midpipe (perhaps mixing the brand) though. Undecided on which though. It won't be a small 2.5" piping though. I also absolutely hate raspiness which seems to be a problem with a midpipe + stock catback combo. I heard a Mazsport DR midpipe + Borla combo and I really liked the tone.

you hate raspiness avoid Turboxs, And B&B

Yeah the BHR is VERY quiet at cruising, but as soon as you get on it, you get a nice sounding exhaust. I think you're right though, the RB will be quieter at WOT.

didn't Ray and Todd take decible readings on this a while back? I'd be curious how the BHR did against the Mazsport since it's pretty much the exact same thing as the RB unit.

Some guy said in the RB DR thread that his MP resonaters burnt out within a few months, so Id be wary in telling people the RB is the same as the Mazsport midpipe

They're definitely not the SAME pipe, just very similar.

The resonators that Scott used were made by RB. (contrary to what he told people)
RB has slightly redesigned them for their pipe and of course the RB unit actually fits unlike Scott's pipe that needed spacers or some other nonsense.

Quality wise, there will be a difference but SOUND wise, they should be very similar.


Ross: the resonator that burnt up was on an actual Racing Beat pipe or on a Mazsport? I know on the Mazsport pipe, it's not all that uncommon...

Get an RB dual resonated midpipe and also a Davesport 100 cpi high flow cat converter, then have a muffler shop replace the front resonator with the cat, you will make the same power, no CEL, be legal, and quiet all in one shot


http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset.asp?partnumber=16221

http://www.davesport.com/cgi-bin/davesport/DCAT100.html



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Team, weren't you an HJS user? :)
How are those catalyzers? HJS is pretty expensive and for some folks here it may not be the best choice.
Thanks!

swoope and a few others are using it, not aware that they've had any issues

I am still using HJS katalysers and believe they're the best option for turbo and racing, but as you mentioned the cost is well beyond what most people are willing to spend, the latest one cost over a grand shipped but it's rated for up to 500 hp

at $138 for the Davesport 100 cpi metallic cat converter there's absolutely no excuse to not be emissions legal on the street, there will always be a few irresponsible lamers though ...



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They're definitely not the SAME pipe, just very similar.

The resonators that Scott used were made by RB. (contrary to what he told people)
RB has slightly redesigned them for their pipe and of course the RB unit actually fits unlike Scott's pipe that needed spacers or some other nonsense.

Quality wise, there will be a difference but SOUND wise, they should be very similar.


Ross: the resonator that burnt up was on an actual Racing Beat pipe or on a Mazsport? I know on the Mazsport pipe, it's not all that uncommon...

Yes it was the second wave of RB midpipes that went out

Get an RB dual resonated midpipe and also a Davesport 100 cpi high flow cat converter, then have a muffler shop replace the front resonator with the cat, you will make the same power, no CEL, be legal, and quiet all in one shot


http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset.asp?partnumber=16221

http://www.davesport.com/cgi-bin/davesport/DCAT100.html



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that's a hell of a suggestion Team, thanks.

didn't Ray and Todd take decible readings on this a while back? I'd be curious how the BHR did against the Mazsport since it's pretty much the exact same thing as the RB unit.

The sound levels are somewhere in the BHR Midpipe thread and I'll have to dig them out. 5 minutes of searching didn't turn up much as there's a lot of information jammed in there.

The DB levels between the BHR pipe and a totally stock RX8 were not more than 2 or 3 DB apart. The cat-back being used will have some influence on the sound output and perhaps more than other mid-pipes being used.

Yes it was the second wave of RB midpipes that went out

that statement is rather vague. What exactly are you saying? rb is shipping midpipes that had issues?

I think he means that a midpipe that was part of the 2nd batch built ended up with issues.

I love my RB Dual Resonated midpipe.
Coupled with the Mazdaspeed exhaust it is pretty aggressive though.

swoope and a few others are using it, not aware that they've had any issues

I am still using HJS katalysers and believe they're the best option for turbo and racing, but as you mentioned the cost is well beyond what most people are willing to spend, the latest one cost over a grand shipped but it's rated for up to 500 hp

at $138 for the Davesport 100 cpi metallic cat converter there's absolutely no excuse to not be emissions legal on the street, there will always be a few irresponsible lamers though ...



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Good infos Team! I'll probably try it at some point to see if i can gut it :)

swoope and a few others are using it, not aware that they've had any issues

I am still using HJS katalysers and believe they're the best option for turbo and racing, but as you mentioned the cost is well beyond what most people are willing to spend, the latest one cost over a grand shipped but it's rated for up to 500 hp

at $138 for the Davesport 100 cpi metallic cat converter there's absolutely no excuse to not be emissions legal on the street, there will always be a few irresponsible lamers though ...



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Swoope's car has some miles on it, Track, HWY, and his pipe is still good.... Although he was using the larger RB silencer not the one in current production.

Def best combo out there.

My Mazsport D/R sound stock from idle to redline. The only real way to know that its on the car is the smell

My Mazsport D/R sound stock from idle to redline. The only real way to know that its on the car is the smell

While I don't agree that the MazSport sounds like stock, it is one of the quietest mid-pipes I've heard.
But I would recommend the new D/R Racing Beat mid-pipe.
Side-by-side its difficult to tell the difference between the RB and the MazSport mid-pipe.
Plus the RB has better fitment and doesn't require you to leave the two cross members off.

So I guess so far it's still the same as my assumption, the RB DR, Mazsport DR and BHR DR. Seems like midpipe selection is quite easy.

Mazsport is the quietest!

How much did the Mazsport DR midpipe sell for new?

How much did the Mazsport DR midpipe sell for new?

I had to go back through my checkbook just to find out...
I paid $490 for the MazSport midpipe (which obviously would have included shipping).
So I assume it was going for $450 without shipping.

I had a Mazsport midpipe on my first RX8 and now have the RB Midpipe on the 2nd ... they are both of very similiar construction. Obviously RB did redesign the two resonators for better fitment, but in terms of sound they are identical. Very quiet, relative to midpipes ofc.

still rocking the mazsport here..def. brings the noise down..at the time this was the only solution for making a catless exhaust system sounding nice for street use..its nice to see there are other quality options out there now

I was wondering the exact same thing. I'm thinking RB is the way to go for me at least. I hope it will sound ok with my stock exhaust .

From the video's i've watched on youtube, seems like all midpipes combined with the stock catback will produce a raspy sound.

^yes, you can hear the rasp at around 4k on the stock catback

Then never mind to that! I tried to find a retailer of the mazsport midpipe and couldn't find it. Mazsports youtube says it is mazsport.net but that doesnt get my anywhere.

Then never mind to that! I tried to find a retailer of the mazsport midpipe and couldn't find it. Mazsports youtube says it is mazsport.net but that doesnt get my anywhere.

Well then you fail because if you didn't bother to search these forums then a simple Google would have shown you that Mazsport seemingly disappeared after scamming scores of people.

Well then you fail because if you didn't bother to search these forums then a simple Google would have shown you that Mazsport seemingly disappeared after scamming scores of people.

There was 2 ways of informing me of that. You picked the wrong one. Thanks for being a such a great person.

While I don't agree that the MazSport sounds like stock, it is one of the quietest mid-pipes I've heard.
But I would recommend the new D/R Racing Beat mid-pipe.
Side-by-side its difficult to tell the difference between the RB and the MazSport mid-pipe.
Plus the RB has better fitment and doesn't require you to leave the two cross members off.

Your right, should have said that it is the closest to stock sounding midpipe that I have heard. Its got a nice deep tone and no droning.

I'm thinking the guys at mazsport were using racing beats pre silencers- They look very similar.

Also I know what your saying about the fitment issue.. i fixed my rattling problem by adding washers to where the cross members bolt up. The washers gave me the clearance that was needed. If this rattling is the problem just add the washers so you can keep your cross member braces

Does Racing Beat offer a D/R midpipe that will mount up with the AT?
My Mazsport AT D/R midpipe is different than the MT version. (the S bend between the resonators is larger on the AT)
The reason I ask is because the piping bends and angles are different because of the larger size trans in the AT. Or did RB think of this issue before designing the size of the first resonator so the type of trans wouldn't matter in regards to fitment?

I like my AP DR midpipe. It's only loud when I mash it or shift hard but I back fire. :)

mazport is wat i have and its real nice but since they dnt make them anymore go wit the RB DR its the closest to it if not exactly like it sound wise

yeah, how is the sound compared to an AP (agency power) dual resonated midpipe?

a lot quieter?

no, the ap is loud and will be raspy at certain rpm ranges.
if you want quiet, go with either the BHR or the RB Dual Resonated midpipe.
check my sig for my sound.

Id buy BHR's Single resonated midpipe if its louder than RB's Midpipe... , Since I have RB's Rev8 exhaust its not that loud already and somewhat close to stock, I want something a little louder so if BHR's midpipe makes it louder and sound better then im down. BHR's quality/fitment is amazing as well...

no, the ap is loud and will be raspy at certain rpm ranges.
if you want quiet, go with either the BHR or the RB Dual Resonated midpipe.
check my sig for my sound.

this man speaks the truth... haha but a little rotary rasp is ok with me =)

My Mazsport D/R sound stock from idle to redline. The only real way to know that its on the car is the smell

Same thing with my RB.

you hate raspiness avoid Turboxs, And B&B

my 2 favourites haha yea I have the turboxs and its super loud, now thats also with the turboxs catback so the midpipe alone as dozer mentioned may be better.

at $138 for the Davesport 100 cpi metallic cat converter there's absolutely no excuse to not be emissions legal on the street, there will always be a few irresponsible lamers though ...


Alright I'm not knowledgable of this but is there any reason you can't put this on a midpipe.. say turboxs? I'm willing to take the hit for asking something stupid but I really have no idea.

As you mentioned Team I wan't to be emissions legal but also have some of the benefits of a midpipe.. In Ontario we have emissions tests every 2 years and I don't have my oem cat.

if you want quiet, go with either the BHR or the RB Dual Resonated midpipe.
Agree.
I had my car with the MazSport midpipe next to another RX8 with the RB DR midpipe, we both have the AP catback, and they sounded almost identical.
You can't go wrong with the RB midpipe IMO.

Alright I'm not knowledgable of this but is there any reason you can't put this on a midpipe.. say turboxs? I'm willing to take the hit for asking something stupid but I really have no idea.

As you mentioned Team I wan't to be emissions legal but also have some of the benefits of a midpipe.. In Ontario we have emissions tests every 2 years and I don't have my oem cat.

Yes, you should be able to buy the cat pipe size that matches the midpipe (3" for TurboX?) and mount it in, but this will only make it emissions legal and not help with the sound so much. You still need a resonator to address the noise issue.

ugh, saving up for RB dual resonated it is. bhr too expensive, and yes alzorz, because of YOU. i think i might be getting the mspeed catback with my rb midpipe.

my favorite sounding rx8 over youtube so far.

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=189104

And I might actually have my RB DR midpipe up for sale in a few weeks also..

Thanks for the link :beer05:

Question for you - does the OEM resonator have packing in it? Anybody cut on in half?

Just a guess but I would think it's baffle because they're quieter.

good resonators have packing, otherwise it will create turbulence and not allow the engine to reach it's maximum power potential

http://www.coastfab.com/muffler-packing-material.html

And I might actually have my RB DR midpipe up for sale in a few weeks also..

Let me be the first to know :) .

good resonators have packing, otherwise it will create turbulence and not allow the engine to reach it's maximum power potential

http://www.coastfab.com/muffler-packing-material.html

That depends on the design.

It applies to any high flow straight-thru design, but the only way to prove it is through back-back optimized Dyno testing

good resonators have packing, otherwise it will create turbulence and not allow the engine to reach it's maximum power potential

http://www.coastfab.com/muffler-packing-material.html

Your comment here comes in contradiction to the link provided.

:dunno::dunno:

This can only mean that BHR intends to use empty resonator cans in it's midpipe design.

Just relax. My statement doesn't mean any resonator with packing is superior to any without. It depends on the design and packing, of which most are cheap junk. My custom racing cat/resonator pipe costs 5x what your midpipe will sell for. The fanbois won't stop drinking the koolaid if it makes a few more hp and still meets emissions standards. Besides, yours will be all bling-bling shiny and come with a cool sticker.

This only proves that you have reading comprehension issues or you have not been reading our posts and threads on the issue. At the very least, Mark, please thoroughly read the links you present to the rest of us before you post them up.

Your statement regarding resonators was unequivocal. With the extremely small profit margin for our midpipe it is hardly worth arguing over except for the fact that you are either leading people to believe things that you are not intending to say or you really are not as informed as you might think.

What CoastFab says on their page is that straight-through resonators/mufflers which utilize perforated/louvered liners and have packing in them (as those designs SHOULD have) perform in a certain fashion due to their design. They then go on to say that the function of said design is compromised when the packing "blows out" and they further explain why those designs will show power LOSSES and how exhaust turbulence plays into that phenomenon.

The BHR midpipe uses a resonator that has no packing in it but it was designed as such from the ground up so there won't be any compromises in performance as time goes on. It was also designed for applications that flow a LOT more exhaust gas than what the Renesis does, so I am quite confident that it will work as we intend. The reason we had issues with our first batch of resonators was for one of the characteristics of exhaust gases that was mentioned on CoastFab's website and the new version addresses those challenges.

It always amazes me when members of this forum seem to know more about BHR's product than I do. No BHR sticker for you. :lol2:

I think you should snap out of the believing your own BS coma and ask yourself if this is really where you want to go? Sniping continuously on your competitors is one thing, but now you want to challenge everything and everyone on the forum who is not in line with the BHR way. I reread the article as well as actually used/tested the product. Apparently I do have comprehension issues because I don't see where you came up with most of that novel.

WTF just happened?

WTF just happened?

Semantics.

Each of them is agreeing with each other and saying the same thing, it just appears like they are arguing. :lol:



Word choice can make or break a statement regardless of intent :)


(I can find different ways of interpreting each of their statements, some of them incorrect. However each of them has an interpretation which matches what the article says...)

I think you should snap out of the believing your own BS coma and ask yourself if this is really where you want to go? Sniping continuously on your competitors is one thing, but now you want to challenge everything and everyone on the forum who is not in line with the BHR way. I reread the article as well as actually used/tested the product. Apparently I do have comprehension issues because I don't see where you came up with most of that novel.

We all know how accusations go.......

For the rest of you reading this thread;

Team and I have had our go-arounds over the past 6+ years of our involvement in this Club and, regardless of the controversy at hand, I consider him a friend and would do all that I can to help him should he ever want it from BHR. He and I are equally passionate about what we do with/for our fellow Club members and I consider that passion as the basis of both our comments on this issue. I can tell you that having unique product offerings which accomplish a particular goal in their own way is what we at BHR always attempt and these efforts are typically controversial in nature. Name one BHR product that people did not argue about........ :lol2: It happens....... Plus, having the BHR team so personally involved in our community makes us more approachable than most vendors and willing to converse, debate, and argue the technical merits of our attempts and how the RX-8, in general, works.

Most of you probably do not know this but TeamRX8 was an important element in the development of the BHR Ignition System and I am still grateful to this day for his input and help.

Thanks Ray.

I do recall Team making what I thought was a complimentary statement about me quite a while back and it went something like this;

"The more and more I get to know CRH the less and less I have to be critical about."

The fact that I remember it enough to paraphrase it, 3-4 years after is was posted, tells you how much I still respect his opinion. :)

Plus, if I thought he was an idiot I would not have bothered smashing open this hornet's nest. :lol2:

You're Missing the whole point and may want to watch who you accuse of having comprehension skills or any other skills for that matter. You could have just said:

"BHR has something new that we believe will set a new standard for resonators and hope to prove it's worth soon"

and left it at that. Don't forget that you were about to ship out this new marvel to your customers following the original koolaid party before discovering that the bugs hadn't all been worked out yet. Despite this misfire you think we should all just gulp it down again even though there are only a few prototypes that were recently put in the field.

This is exactly why I chose not to make personal hobby into a business and also why I've been declining freebies from certain businesses. I don't want to be handcuffed into kissing somebody's ass when I see the potential for disagreement; customers, competitors, or anyone else. I'd rather just be some flunky on the forum who has nothing to lose or take personal.

We can leave it like this or clean it up and go back to being friends. Let me know

Mark, my last post was intended to remind ourselves about our history and to let others know that we are truly discussing technical aspects of our positions and not necessarily taking it to a personal level. You are the one who has failed to respond to my claim of your blanket statement not being congruent with the link you provided. You are the one that brought in the histrionics of "Kool-Aid" drinkers. And now, you are the one telling me what it was I should have said.

I jumped in on the conversation as I did because you did, in fact, make a blanket statement regarding sound-attenuating approaches as they apply to exhaust systems.

You seem to have some general hostilities toward myself, my team, and/or my company and any efforts to be productive I must request be devoid of these hostilities.

I thought I made it clear in my previous post that we were never NOT friends.......

"BHR has something new that we believe will set a new standard for resonators and hope to prove it's worth soon"

and left it at that. Don't forget that you were about to ship out this new marvel to your customers following the original koolaid party before discovering that the bugs hadn't all been worked out yet. Despite this misfire you think we should all just gulp it down again even though there are only a few prototypes that were recently put in the field.

We have been saying exactly that in our midpipe thread, btw. However, we never simply make statements as to how "great" our products are supposed to be and, instead, prefer to discuss our thought processes and engineering approaches so others can decide, for themselves, which approaches deserve merit and which do not. Name any other vendor who offers their products and ideas for such scrutiny........ BHR's stuff suffers this exact examination every time we even THINK about something and we would have it no other way. That's why people drink the "BHR Kool-Aid" and wait for our stuff to come out.

As regards our midpipe, your criticisms could be even more pointed had you known the full story. After testing the resonators for 90 days in many different contexts, including several track sessions, we thought we had a thorough regimen and built and shipped the first 7 pipes. A few of them developed rattles and we re-examined the resonator we are using. Fortunately, the company who makes it has the same passion for their products as BHR does for our own and decided to re-examine their manufacturing processes and made updates that we are hoping solve the durability problem. Every one of those 7 pipes will be completely replaced at BHR's own expense, as well.

I don't expect anyone to "gulp" anything down and that is why the entire BHR team remains so approachable, willing to discuss our products in detail, and willing to admit mistakes/failure where/when I feel we have screwed up.

What else can we do to prove we aren't some drive-by, part-flipping, rip-off artist, simply selling crap and running away with the money?

I'm not saying that you're any of those things, but were all fallible. You'll have to forgive me if I don't follow every BHR thread in detail. To some degree I understand you're livlihood is at stake and it's hard not to separate your personal feelings out of the business equation, but I really wish you and the other BHR minions would chill out on trying to dominate the forum as your personal holy ground.

I'm not saying that you're any of those things, but were all fallible. You'll have to forgive me if I don't follow every BHR thread in detail. To some degree I understand you're livlihood is at stake and it's hard not to separate your personal feelings out of the business equation, but I really wish you and the other BHR minions would chill out on trying to dominate the forum as your personal holy ground.

Yes, we are all simply human beings.

No forgiveness is needed as neither of us have done anything wrong.

BHR's livelihood is not at stake on the midpipe as we make almost nothing on it. The only reason we decided to try and produce one is because we see flaws in the approaches of others. My feelings are not at play here. I just wanted to address the statement(s) you made and address our differences of opinion. You have yet to clarify your point nor has anyone else clarified where I may my view is wrong. I doubt anyone even remembers what my point is by now.

Dominate the forum? Why should YOU have all the fun? I have noticed you doing your fair share of ball-busting around here lately on all sorts of members and vendors and the fact you are not a vendor does not excuse you from having your perspectives/claims being scrutinized like the rest of us.

I am done fighting with you over drama. The tech stuff will sort itself out when BHR is proven to either succeed or fail with our midpipe.

Dominate the forum? Why should YOU have all the fun? I have noticed you doing your fair share of ball-busting around here lately on all sorts of members and vendors and the fact you are not a vendor does not excuse you from having your perspectives/claims being scrutinized like the rest of us.

Fortunately my team is just multiple personalities. Multiply me by 3 all beating everybody down for our own business purpose and you might have a point.

Pretty scary thought actually ... :uhh: :lol2:


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now kiss and hug

Drop and roll might be more appropriate :lol:

Otherwise I only suggested using the RB dual res midpipe here because it's reputed to be quiet and has been readily available for purchase at a reasonable price with known quality standards. I respect BHR enough not to express opposing views in their dedicated threads and they too have a well earned reputation as a quality performance parts provider.

^^ To some degree, this all seems healthy for our forum. People who can deal with "certain situations" and who are able to move forward without the BS are generally people who myself and others would like to work with. Atleast for some of us car enthusiast...:dunno:

I know RB is a quality company, I bought my exhaust from them and love it (it could be a tad louder though :) ) but the fact that their midpipe has 2 Resonators will that not limit some HP and make it more quiet than BHR's Midpipe which is single resonated and would be louder/ give you more HP? Let me know if I'm correct.

Fortunately my team is just multiple personalities. Multiply me by 3 all beating everybody down for our own business purpose and you might have a point.

Pretty scary thought actually ... :uhh: :lol2:

Team, given that you are relatively close to BHR's "hideout", and that we have an open-door policy for anyone who wishes to come by the joint, you are invited to come and witness our product-development meetings. If you guys think we at BHR are a bunch of hard-noses around here you ain't seen nuthin' until you see the cannibalism and drama when we challenge each other's ides....... seriously. American Chopper ain't shit. :lol2:

Otherwise I only suggested using the RB dual res midpipe here because it's reputed to be quiet and has been readily available for purchase at a reasonable price with known quality standards. I respect BHR enough not to express opposing views in their dedicated threads and they too have a well earned reputation as a quality performance parts provider.

I agree that the RB pipe is a quality build and that it may be a bit cheaper than ours. It is KILLING me, how long it is taking us to get a seemingly simple midpipe done but we are taing a different approach so we are discovering certain challenges. If I can't build it to last forever, I will kill the product.

As for your challenges, Team, you are invited to bring them to our product threads. :)

I know RB is a quality company, I bought my exhaust from them and love it (it could be a tad louder though :) ) but the fact that their midpipe has 2 Resonators will that not limit some HP and make it more quiet than BHR's Midpipe which is single resonated and would be louder/ give you more HP? Let me know if I'm correct.

resonatores do not limit power or are restrictive in any way its flow through just a helping hand

I know RB is a quality company, I bought my exhaust from them and love it (it could be a tad louder though :) ) but the fact that their midpipe has 2 Resonators will that not limit some HP and make it more quiet than BHR's Midpipe which is single resonated and would be louder/ give you more HP? Let me know if I'm correct.

Hell, yes, RB is a quality company. I promote some of their stuff all the time and have it on my own car.

More resonators does not necessarily hamper exhaust flow but it also does not improve noise-damping. That was why I mandated the use of only ONE resonator with the BHR 'pipe. Take a look at our video for comparisons between a dual-res 'pipe and our own........

Can I get a Coke with that burger and fries please?

Easy is to BHR what Joe Walsh was to The Eagles; comic relief.

Easy is to BHR what Joe Walsh was to The Eagles; comic relief.

I thought The Eagles were supposed to be comic relief to music? :dunno:

so after all of this, i straight pipe my car for fun

wow it was loud, i scared my self every now and then too.

sound was a bit raspy, but GOD I LOVE THE BACKFIRE.

went through and underpass, let it rip to 9k.... sounds like i dropped a nuke in there.

with the rb dual resonated, you guys think i would lose my loud ass back fire?

i actually like the way it sounds straight piped, a bit ricey and droney on the low rpms, but sounds great up top, its just too loud though, not dd able

so after all of this, i straight pipe my car for fun

wow it was loud, i scared my self every now and then too.

sound was a bit raspy, but GOD I LOVE THE BACKFIRE.

went through and underpass, let it rip to 9k.... sounds like i dropped a nuke in there.

with the rb dual resonated, you guys think i would lose my loud ass back fire?

i actually like the way it sounds straight piped, a bit ricey and droney on the low rpms, but sounds great up top, its just too loud though, not dd able

Find yourself an Otologist as you'll need one soon. My sister works for the wolrd's foremost and I can get you a referral, if you like.

so after all of this, i straight pipe my car for fun

wow it was loud, i scared my self every now and then too.

sound was a bit raspy, but GOD I LOVE THE BACKFIRE.

went through and underpass, let it rip to 9k.... sounds like i dropped a nuke in there.

with the rb dual resonated, you guys think i would lose my loud ass back fire?

i actually like the way it sounds straight piped, a bit ricey and droney on the low rpms, but sounds great up top, its just too loud though, not dd able

RB DR pipe sounds like stock.

I just installed a RB dual resonated midpipe today and i'm so surprised with how quiet it is. Same volume at idle and same volume at cruise but a little different tone -- i'd say it's a more mellow tone. The only time i really noticed it being louder was if i gave it the beans from ~4-6k. I dont think it was any louder from 6k-redline but it sounded nicer for sure. Overall it's a much more "full" sound without a huge increase in volume.

My girlfriend went for the test drive with me and she said that if i hadn't told her i installed a mid-pipe she didn't think she would have noticed.

I'm running an Exoticspeed R1-T cat-back BTW.

Trust me, anyone who thinks they love the sound of their car with a straight pipe will hate life after a few weeks.

not when you have an rb rev 8 my car is so quiet straight piped its not even funny i rarly notice

here's a few more for the collection:

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has anyone else noticed that the price of the RB midpipe price has gone from $330 to $360
now thats some BS...price is from raceroots

has anyone else noticed that the price of the RB midpipe price has gone from $330 to $360
now thats some BS...price is from raceroots

Racing Beat's site shows $339

aight thats where ill get it from then...gotta do something
turbo xs is loud as a mofo
sure was hoping i could find one on here for under $300 tho