View Full Version : Greatest movie series of all time


BRx8
01-10-2004, 12:32 PM
self explanatory

of course i'm missing a lot like Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, Star Trek, etc. but i doubt anyone would vote them the greatest...

mental pimp
01-10-2004, 12:40 PM
omg, stop wit these stupid polls, mod should do something about this

wakeech
01-10-2004, 12:52 PM
nah, i think the polls are fun, but all these movies kinda suck.

well, not suck, but not even close to "greatest ever", by a long shot.

oh, misread the title... best series???

Bond, James Bond.

revhappy
01-10-2004, 12:53 PM
Where is V? :D

BRx8
01-10-2004, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by revhappy
Where is V? :D

i have it on DVD...i read somewhere that they're remaking it...i can't wait

wait, are you talking about Rocky V or V the TV show about lizard aliens invading Earth to use us as food and steal our water?

EDIT: btw, oops on the Star Wars IV, V, XI (We all know the new ones suck), i meant VI

revhappy
01-10-2004, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by BRx8
i have it on DVD...i read somewhere that they're remaking it...i can't wait

wait, are you talking about Rocky V or V the TV show about lizard aliens invading Earth to use us as food and steal our water?

EDIT: btw, oops on the Star Wars IV, V, XI (We all know the new ones suck), i meant VI

None other than the Marc Singer Lizard classic.

8_wannabe
01-10-2004, 02:00 PM
LOTR was faraway the best. Matrix gets my vote as the best first movie with the suckiest sequels. OMG, Matrix II was BAAAAADDDD!!!!! Lord, I couldn't tolerate it; nearly walked out but I paid 9 bucks and kept hoping it might have some point. It didn't.

velociti
01-10-2004, 02:19 PM
Wait just a second, where the hell is The Godfather?

eccles
01-10-2004, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by mental pimp
omg, stop wit these stupid polls, mod should do something about this Here's a free clue: if you don't like polls, don't click on any thread that starts with "Poll:"

BRx8
01-10-2004, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by revhappy
None other than the Marc Singer Lizard classic.

ok good...that's what i have on DVD...there is a planned remake coming out on NBC

http://www.icv2.com/images/160917Vminidvdmd.jpg

http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/2858.html

Twenty years after the NBC miniseries V and V: The Final Battle aired, Warner Bros. and NBC are reviving the lizard people. According to Variety, a script has been ordered for a three-hour telepic, dubbed V: The Second Generation. It's set 20 years after the original, and depicts the further struggles of the human race versus the visitors who now control most of Earth.




Originally posted by velociti
Wait just a second, where the hell is The Godfather?

wow, that one completely slipped my mind!

Senseny
01-10-2004, 04:57 PM
If it wasn't for Godfather 3, which was awful, then Godfather would be far and away the greatest series. Because points have to come off for that, LOTR beats out Godfather IMO.

8_wannabe
01-10-2004, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Senseny
If it wasn't for Godfather 3, which was awful, then Godfather would be far and away the greatest series. Because points have to come off for that, LOTR beats out Godfather IMO. Yeah, LOTR is the only trilogy where none of the installments were a letdown. And if you get the extended version on DVD they are better still. Each movie has like 30 minutes of extra scenes that go a long way towards adding continuity and background to the story. Strongly recommended!

j-apex rx
01-10-2004, 06:11 PM
no rush hour 1 and 2 .

8_wannabe
01-10-2004, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by j-apex rx
no rush hour 1 and 2 . Naahhh, two movies does not a series make. Also, for any who have not seen Jackie's older Chinese movies, he was already in his decline by the time he made Rush Hour. Rent some of his older ones -- Police Story or Mr. Nice Guy -- for just some hilarious and awesome martial arts action. Way better than Rush Hour. Even First Strike, where he still did all his own stunts including falling from a helicopter into a frozen river. He also really did the stunt in Rush Hour falling from the ceiling of the atruim about 20 stories down to land in the crimson cloth. Took him days of "takes" until he worked up the nerve to let go and fall.

h0rde
01-10-2004, 10:00 PM
I have to say Star Wars is my favorite movie series, i actually have not seen any of the LOTR movies, haha...

Doug Green
01-10-2004, 10:01 PM
Bond, James Bond of course...........

8_wannabe
01-10-2004, 10:05 PM
Stars Wars woulda been a contender if not for that stupid and cartoonish lizard creature in the 3rd movie. That was sooooo lame. What were they thinking? Did they think they storyline was not compelling enough without comic relief?

h0rde
01-10-2004, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by 8_wannabe
Stars Wars woulda been a contender if not for that stupid and cartoonish lizard creature in the 3rd movie. That was sooooo lame. What were they thinking? Did they think they storyline was not compelling enough without comic relief?


Are you talking about Jar Jar? That was the 1st and 2nd movies, which he said don't count for the poll because everyone knows they suck.

8_wannabe
01-10-2004, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by h0rde
Are you talking about Jar Jar? That was the 1st and 2nd movies, which he said don't count for the poll because everyone knows they suck. Yeah, that's the guy. I can't keep straight like the 1st movie being IV and the 4th movie being 1 or whatever. If you don't count that jarjar stuff then yeah, the Star Wars series is pretty competitive in this survey. But I still picked LOTR.

BRx8
01-10-2004, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by 8_wannabe
Naahhh, two movies does not a series make. Also, for any who have not seen Jackie's older Chinese movies, he was already in his decline by the time he made Rush Hour. Rent some of his older ones -- Police Story or Mr. Nice Guy -- for just some hilarious and awesome martial arts action.

my favorite Jackie movie is still his first Drunken Master movie...it's VERY old and he shows off his Drunken Boxing, Drunken Monkey, Snake and Crane, Tiger, and Dragon styles with fluidity and also uses his patented "grab whatever you can and use it as a weapon" technique...Drunken Master 2 were he plays legendary Chinese folk hero Wong Fei Hong is pretty good too (Jet Li also play Fei Hong in Once Upon a Time in China 1-3, another actor plays Fei Hong in 4) but i suggest going to Blockbuster and trying to find the very original which was made sometime in the 70s

8_wannabe
01-10-2004, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by BRx8
...i suggest going to Blockbuster and trying to find the very original which was made sometime in the 70s Go to Blockbuster and find any Jackie movie that you've never heard of. They're all a lot of fun. There are a couple dogs in the group, but if you just watch for his humor and fight choreography you won't be disappointed. But then these aren't really series, so I guess they don't qualify for this poll.

klegg
01-11-2004, 09:28 PM
What about the great porn sewries "Taboo", I think they made 20 of them.....God I drank a bit too much during the game...

Shocka
01-11-2004, 11:19 PM
ok WHERERS SUPERMAN!

its not on the list but its my vote!

Ike
01-11-2004, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by velociti
Wait just a second, where the hell is The Godfather?

What he said, you should be thrown in the river with some cement shoes for that one. It's probably the only trilogy that deserves to be mentioned in the same breathe with LOTR.

BRx8
01-12-2004, 12:25 AM
for the most part i did a pretty good job, with the exception of The Matrix and those horror movies...

LOTR - each episode was good...there's not one that wasn't technically superior to every other fantasy movie before it...each movie can stand alone as an achievement and raises the bar for all fantasy movies to come

Alien(s) - with the exception of 3, i like all of them, especially Aliens (2, directed by James Cameron)...4 wasn't that bad but you could tell they were runnig out of ideas...i can't wait for Aliens vs. Predator

Terminator - each one was good, i especially liked 2 the best...everyone that had low expectations for 3 starring geriatric Ah-nuld was surprised to see a movie actually worth its title

Rocky - i liked them all except 5...4 with Ivan Drago is still one of my favorite movies

Back to the Future - again, each one was pretty damn good, but 1 is still the best

Star Wars - no brainer, each held its own...A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi are pop culture hits that will transcend through every generation since it's release...too bad Lucas is a sellout and decided to make the new ones appeal more to figure and memorabillia collectors than to fans

Indiana Jones - c'mon, these are what adventure movies are made of...Spielberg + Lucas = box office smash hit

James Bond - theres so many of them you gotta like some...a year isn't complete without at least 1 James Bond movie

now Superman was good but only 1 and 2...3 with Richard Pryor and Nuclear Man (??? WTF?) was downright horrible...2 movies does not a series make...

and like i said, i forgot about the Godfather...i only saw 1 i think and i prefer Scarface and Goodfellas when it comes to Italian gangster movies

wakeech
01-12-2004, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by 8_wannabe
Rent some of his older ones -- Police Story or Mr. Nice Guy --

the hell're you on??? CITY HUNTER!!! :cool:
(laughed for five literal minutes after the cartoonishly stupid arcade scene... couldn't sit up)

and for everyone voting for LOTR, put it into perspective.
it's new, that doesn't make it better.
the story isn't anything new, and had been a little bastardized to fit onto film (understandable), but what happened to the end (for those, like Elara, who've read it)??
the movie rode the wave of special effects, and almost nothing else, to tell the story. i know that's what mainstream film consumers like: of course it's fantasy, and of course you need to have made up views to tell made up events, the acheivement of a lifetime for so much done by Mr. Jackson, but it's still not real.

i know i'm going to definitely catch a lot of flack on this one, but 10 years down the road when the neophiles will be raving about another "greatest ever", they'll compare it to this and see it in the context from which it was made, and say "good, very good, but not the best".

for what it's done, become, influenced, and represents culturally, the Bond series is definitely head and shoulders above any other mentioned in this thread.

8_wannabe
01-12-2004, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by wakeech
the hell're you on??? CITY HUNTER!!! (laughed for five literal minutes after the cartoonishly stupid arcade scene... couldn't sit up)

and for everyone voting for LOTR, put it into perspective.
it's new, that doesn't make it better.
the story isn't anything new, and had been a little bastardized to fit onto film (understandable), but what happened to the end (for those, like Elara, who've read it)??
the movie rode the wave of special effects, and almost nothing else, to tell the story. i know that's what mainstream film consumers like: of course it's fantasy, and of course you need to have made up views to tell made up events, the acheivement of a lifetime for so much done by Mr. Jackson, but it's still not real.
Haven't seen City Hunter yet; I gotta check it out.

As for LOTR, don't forget the first episode came out over two years ago. I now have the video and just as thrilled to watch it now as before. I've read the trilogy four times, and am amazed at Mr. Jackson's ability to bring it to life. I would have thought it an impossible task. People keep razzing the end, but it's just like the book. Frodo and Bilbo at the Gray Havens, Sam going home to see his family. In the sense of the great classics, ends with focus on who the true hero was; it was not accidental. Sam's loyalty to his friend -- not to the mission -- ultimately brought about the end of the 3rd age, a truly massive story.

I'm not sure what you mean by "it's not real." Do you suggest James Bond is? I think it is you who are mesmerized by special effects because surely the moral cause throughout LOTR escaped you. That's what made the story, not the depiction of Urak Hai and Oliphaunts.

BRx8
01-12-2004, 01:18 AM
i for one have not read the LOTR books...i'm speaking from sheer enjoyment of watching the films and nothing more...i was completely mesmerized from beginning to end of each of these films...i had no expectation coming in to see the first and the pure epic grandeur and emotions portrayed blew me away...you could truly sense a feeling of evil and of greed, of hopelessness and despair, of friendship and honor through each of these films...each time i walked into the theater after the first i had high expectations, and each time my expectations were met and succeeded...

sure, it's not "real" but neither were the books these movies were based on...from a strictly technical point of view, the CG didn't look all that CG and PJ didn't overdo them like every other SciFi movie out, the movie captures a truly epic feeling in the cinematographic sweeping landscapes, and the battles scenes rival that of pure war movies...

in it's purest essence, a movie is supposed to immerse you into itself and tell you a story which will convey emotions within you and these movies did exactly that...whether it portrayed the books loyally or not is not the question, whether you enjoyed the movie is

8_wannabe
01-12-2004, 02:03 AM
Well said, BRx8. That's exactly why I cast my vote for LOTR.

Ike
01-12-2004, 02:17 AM
Lets not forget, without the books the movies are based on we would not have Star Wars, and everything fantasy would have a different shape than it does today. Those books were truely ground breaking and have had more influene on culture and society than any bond movie ever has or will. I for one think they did an amazing job adapting the books, and the movies will stand the test of time very well and were hardly riding the wave of special effects. There was really nothing groundbreaking special effects wise in the movies, and it didn't matter.

MadRonin
01-12-2004, 02:10 PM
Umm Ike, what books are you talking about? LOTR or something else?

Star Wars wasn't directly based off of any books, per se. Lucas took most of his ideas from mythology, other science fiction films and television of his youth (ex - Flash Gordon), Joseph Campbell, as well as Akira Kurosawa's movies (The Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo).

Now if you meant that LOTR helped to pave the way for movies such as Star Wars, then I would agree with that.

BTW -- Has everyone forgotten one of the greatest sequel generating machines of all time -- GODZILLA (except for that crappy Sony remake)?

rotarygod
01-12-2004, 02:56 PM
It isn't a series but I like Monty Python and the Holy Grail! It may as well be a series though because I have watched it back to back to back...

XeRo
01-12-2004, 03:59 PM
exactly right MadRonin....Star Wars as any fan would know..is the opposite of most movies....beginning with idea->movie->text vs. idea->text->movie....

All the books spawned from, Star Wars IV: A New Hope, which were drawings and monologue derived from Lucas' creative mind!

Ike
01-12-2004, 05:39 PM
Star wars is very heavily influenced by LOTR, Lucas has even acknowledged this. I realize it's not directly based off of LOTR, but I don't think Starwars would exist were it not for the LOTR books. While

Take a look at this site for some of the interesting similarities.

http://www.supershadow.com/starwars/lord_of_the_rings/

8_wannabe
01-12-2004, 06:35 PM
Here's an interesting twist on the question: What is a trilogy anyway? I submit that James Bond, and perhaps Freddie and Indy are not trilogies in the sense the others are (though admittedly I have not seen many of the Jason/Freddie movies.)

The other movie series depict a continuing story, with common characters (note the plural), an evolving storyline from episode to episode and, importantly, the main character continuing to grow and mature. This is absolutely the case in LOTR, Matrix, Rocky, and Alien(s). To a lesser extent Back to the Future. In LOTR and Matrix, the personal development of the lead character is the storyline, not just an offshoot of it. Continuity between episodes is essential for credibility.

Granted, I just made up this distinction; I am no scholar of literature. But it seems if you use my criteria then the "trilogies" fall neatly into these two camps, and it's hard or unfair to compare one group with the other.

Ike
01-12-2004, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by 8_wannabe
Here's an interesting twist on the question: What is a trilogy anyway? I submit that James Bond, and perhaps Freddie and Indy are not trilogies in the sense the others are (though admittedly I have not seen many of the Jason/Freddie movies.)

The other movie series depict a continuing story, with common characters (note the plural), an evolving storyline from episode to episode and, importantly, the main character continuing to grow and mature. This is absolutely the case in LOTR, Matrix, Rocky, and Alien(s). To a lesser extent Back to the Future. In LOTR and Matrix, the personal development of the lead character is the storyline, not just an offshoot of it. Continuity between episodes is essential for credibility.

Granted, I just made up this distinction; I am no scholar of literature. But it seems if you use my criteria then the "trilogies" fall neatly into these two camps, and it's hard or unfair to compare one group with the other.

Ummm, take a look at the original topic of this thread, it says series not trilogies. Trilogy really only implies there are 3 movies in the series and that they are related in subject or theme.

klegg
01-12-2004, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by IkeWRX
Ummm, take a look at the original topic of this thread, it says series not trilogies. Trilogy really only implies there are 3 movies in the series and that they are related in subject or theme.

Hence the "tri" in trilogy....

BRx8
01-12-2004, 06:47 PM
a trilogy is simply a movie and 2 sequels or 3 movies of a similar theme...whether the sequels continue off of each other is insignificant...

that's why the Alien series is aptly released on DVD as a "Quadrilogy" or 4 movies

8_wannabe
01-12-2004, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by IkeWRX
Ummm, take a look at the original topic of this thread, it says series not trilogies. Trilogy really only implies there are 3 movies in the series and that they are related in subject or theme. Ok ok, it's not my poll. BRx8 can list anything he wants. Regardless of how many films in the series, my point still stands. I just raised it as an interesting distinction between types of "series" for the sake of intellectual discussion. Hey, there are two types of people in this world: Those who try to group things into two types and those who don't. I guess you and I are just different types. :D