I always do but lately I m noticing that every store has a tip label on their receipt. Even best buy will soon have one. My local Starbucks have one. I just stopped tipping lately unless I m ordering delivery!

what ya think about thiz?

always have unless there was a blaring reason as to why they shouldn't.

I never tip. The .0000001% chance I do the person has to do a good job. That in my eyes is what a tip is for. Today people expect a tip like its second nature. They get upset when you dont tip. Iv had people chase me out to the parking lot demanding I give them a tip. Its like everyone thinks they should get hand outs. I think younger kids are the worst at resturants. All the way through school they were given a blue ribbon even though they came in last, project sucked or just a bad kid.

"Good job Timmy. You came in dead last, your attitude just plain sucks and your project looks like you pooped in a shoe box. But heres a Blue Ribbon because, your a winner!"

When those kids hit the real world working at Red Robin or TGIF thats when the "5 Rs" set in.

Reamed in the Rectum by the Ridged Rod of Reality.

Life sucks. Get a better paying job if your pissed someone didnt leave you a $2 tip.

/rant

^ i always did tip but am also noticing the tip added to the bill lately and IMO thats just wrong coz that way the waiters and waitresses dont need to do a good job to get a tip WTF

I tip delivery people. I tip at restaurants with waiters.

I will consider tipping at shops I regularly patronize if the staff there starts to recognize me and anticipates my order or remembers my name. It needs to be earned in such cases.

Are you serious RawrX8? So all the people working in restruants working for 2.13 an hour dont deserve tips? If so then that shows alot about your character..

I tip for service rendered....preparing my food behind a counter does not count, but sit down eateries, haircuts, and pretty much anything where someone works for someone else and does a service for me...will usually get a tip.

I worked as a server. I know the BS they go through. If you get decent service at a sit down restaurant and tip nothing, you are nothing but scum. You pay for the food. The tip is for the place to sit and eat it and them bringing your food and drink to you. If you don't agree, don't goto a sitdown restaurant. But none the less, there will be trash that live in this world to take advantage of everything and everyone to their own benefit, but they don't have any real friends. I promise you that.

I treat it like this...you start with a 20% tip when I walk in the door. What you do from there determines if that gets better or worse. Service on Par will get you the 20%. One or two slip ups will get 15%, but I never leave less than 10% unless it's just a big screw up and you just ruined the last hour of my life.

i tip and i tip VEEEERY well because i worked in a shitty diner where the tips sucked and i made $2.13 an hour.

I tip at restaurants if the service is good. If my glass of tea/Coke gets empty, then I start counting minutes before someone comes by and takes care of my refill. The longer it takes, the less they get. Getting my order right is a nice plus too, as is having a nice attitude.

I used to deliver pizza, so pizza drivers ALWAYS get good hookups from me.

As for places that don't actually serve me, but ask for tips anyway, I guess it depends on my mood, if I can spare the money, and if the people who interfaced me had the right attitude.

EDIT: forgot the barber shop. I always go in with 15 dollars to spend, so the price of getting my hair cut determines their tip. The cost has gone from 10 bucks to 12 over the past few years, so their individual tips from me have dropped a little. Oh well...

It depends on the service, but for restaurants, I typically tip 20%

Are you serious RawrX8? So all the people working in restruants working for 2.13 an hour dont deserve tips? If so then that shows alot about your character..

Yeah...I thought that was a pretty shitty comment too. Sounds like someone was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Do you work RawrX8? Mommy and Daddy buy that car?

agree guys. I always tip at restaurants. Funny thing though. I just came back from dominos. I ordered a pizza online and just came to pick it up!! and ofcourse I get a receipt with the tip space to fill. man I just gave them $1. thats it. lol.

Are you serious RawrX8? So all the people working in restruants working for 2.13 an hour dont deserve tips? If so then that shows alot about your character..

As long as there is decent service, there should be a tip. I get what he's going for, but it's ridiculously extreme. I dislike when someone feels like the deserve a tip regardless of how well they did their job. I pretty much always tip at a restaurant though. Even with bad service, I'll leave a very small amount.

Now, the assumption that it's a bunch of failures is definitely retarded. A lot of college kids survive off of waiting and work their ass off for both school and work. I have a few friends who are servers and use most that money for cost of living and school stuff.

That said, I dont always leave a tip for anything and everything that might often get tips. One example... My girlfriend's battery was dead when she got out of work one day so she had to call AAA and they got someone to come out to replace it. So, I decide to go meet up with her since she was tired and hungry and we figured we'd go get some food afterwards. It was in the winter so it was kind of cold, but it wasn't too bad during the day. They said they'd be there in 30 minutes but the guy didn't show up for an hour. Oh well, no big deal. He starts to get to work but for some reason (I've forgotten now) he didn't have a tool he needed. Fortunately, I happened to have some tools in my trunk and he was able to resume work. He then proceeded to drop a part, and then another part 2 times. He was unable to get those himself, so I was the one who ended up getting them out of the engine bay. During that process he needed to pull out a jack (during a battery change) to get to one of the parts. While he was jacking her car up, he pulls the handle too far and dings my fender... it was small, but he starts saying crap like "that's going to cost thousands to fix... I cant afford that". I wasn't going to let him just get away with that though. I took down his name, truck number etc while he resumed work. After a while he starts complaining that he didn't receive many tips that day and how he usually gets a lot more (with that hinting kind of tone). When he finally finished the job (after I provided most the tools used and a lot of the work) he finally manned up to paying for the ding. It ended up taking about 3 hours and had become dark so it was rather cold by that time and he still had the guts to mention the tips again. She just signed the papers and we left before he was even back in his truck.

Haha, RawrX8 is Mr. Pink!

I always tip delivery people, servers, barbers, bartenders, movers, etc.

But at a place like Starbucks or Sonic I don't think tips should be expected. If you are doing basically the same job as someone at McDs for minimum wage or better, why should you expect a tip? I worked my way through college in a drive-through window for minimum wage, and I wasn't even allowed to take tips.

But in a restaurant where someone is serving you throughout the meal, you should tip. If the service is adequate, tip 15%. If it's really good tip more, if it's really bad tip less. But don't just walk out without leaving anything, not when someone is being paid below minimum wage and is counting on tips for the majority of their income.

100% i tip waitress and waiters. they get enough crap from crappy customers.

i tip 20% at restaurants. if im at a place like starbucks and i like the service (and i paid in cash) i'll drop my change in the tip jar. they dont rely on tips like waiters/waitress' do.

i have tipped as much as 300%. and no, she wasnt hot. she was like 70 years old.

i also have tipped 1 cent. cause the service was the worst i have ever experienced in my life. 40 minute wait for drinks. wrong order. and then a longer wait for the right order. and the waiter was rude....

Yeah, I tip if I thought the waiters are nice, I tip delivery guys very well, they fight to deliver pizza to my house. Waitresses.. I tip them with a little :boink: ;)

If I go to a place that makes my food and hands it to me and that's it? No.

If I go to a place that serves me, then they get one. I usually do a 15-20%.

The pizza delivery places add a tip to the bill
Most restaurants add a tip to the bill.



There is no need to tip anymore, every place adds 15% to the bill
If they dont, then yes, I tip.
If they add it to every bill,, I never go there again.

Life sucks. Get a better paying job if your pissed someone didnt leave you a $2 tip.

/rant


Maybe you should get a better paying job so you can eat at restaurants that would call for more than a 2 dollar tip...

Do you also argue with the waiter about corkage fee too?

I mean, it's not illegal to not tip, especially at your normal IHOP or TGI Fridays, but if you're at a fine dining restaurant and you don't tip, then sir you can't afford to eat at those places.


But yah, for me 20% tip is standard for meals.
10~20% for a bottle of wine.
20% for delivery drivers, 30~50% if the weather is severe.
a buck or two at carryout places (this is definitely "optional")
5 dollars @ hotels for the maids at the end of my stay(I always refuse service for stayover nights).
10~20% for taxi cab drivers.

I worked at a restaurant in college and a Car Wash and I was an excellent waiter and an excellent detailer and I know first hand there are tons of cheap ass holes out there.

If you receive good service at a place were tips are expected (needed) and you don't tip you are an asshole.

As a former head waiter at a dinner house and bartender, I definitely understand the crap you go through serving customers.

T = To
I = Insure
P = Prompt Service

In the old days you would TIP the server before ordering your meal.

In the old days you would TIP the server before ordering your meal.

I always tip the guys that wash my car before they start. It goes a long way.

When I waited tables, I tipped the busboy before the shift started. They would always clear and reset my tables very quickly. Then I tipped again at the end of the night. Sometimes other servers would get upset and wonder why my tables were always taken care of :lol: On the average night I would get 4 - 6 more tables than the average server because my section would turn over much faster :)

Also when tending bar and needed to make extra cash, I would tip the DJ $20 before the shift started to play a few extra slow songs. A lot less people are on the dance flow with slow songs and many of them came to see me at the bar :)

I never tip. The .0000001% chance I do the person has to do a good job. That in my eyes is what a tip is for. Today people expect a tip like its second nature. They get upset when you dont tip. Iv had people chase me out to the parking lot demanding I give them a tip. Its like everyone thinks they should get hand outs. I think younger kids are the worst at resturants. All the way through school they were given a blue ribbon even though they came in last, project sucked or just a bad kid.

"Good job Timmy. You came in dead last, your attitude just plain sucks and your project looks like you pooped in a shoe box. But heres a Blue Ribbon because, your a winner!"

When those kids hit the real world working at Red Robin or TGIF thats when the "5 Rs" set in.

Reamed in the Rectum by the Ridged Rod of Reality.

Life sucks. Get a better paying job if your pissed someone didnt leave you a $2 tip.

/rant

Generally I agree, but unless its a restraunt with waiters. I served for about a year or so, and that's really the only way I made money.

Not saying I despise people that don't tip, and I certainly wouldn't confront them in the parking lot of it, but I can remember one night where I had just about 1 table for the last 2 hours of my shift, just 4 people coming in to have drinks for the night. So it's my only table for awhile, which obviously meant they got my full undivided attention so when they needed something I was there.

100ish dollar tab, and I was left with 6 cents.

Fair? I don't think so. I made 2.15 hour, my paychecks were just at 60 dollars usually after taxes.

So tips were about the only way I made my living, now I'm all for if you get poor service let the person know about it, but I always don't let my friends walk away without giving something unless the person was just intentionally rude.

Just because you get "poor service" doesn't mean it's always the servers fault, they don't control everything that goes on in the back. If me and my friends are out I always tell them to tip atleast 10% even if the service is sub-par, if it's really good, go crazy with what you can afford or think is worthwhile, if it's average, 15% it is.

I try to never walk away without tipping, because I remember times where I'd have to lean on my parents for rent or bills because I'd have a night or two where some jack asses felt like being smart and leaving nothing at all or just pennies. I wasn't bad either, just sometimes people come in at a rush hour time and expect the same service they got mid day when no one was there a few days ago.

I currently work at the local Chili's as a server (once every two weeks). I daytrade in the stock market for a living but started working as a server when i was 18 and i love the 50% off discount to all brinker restaurants so i keep working there lol. Anyways those who have been a server or are, know how much shit you have to put up with. I wish everyone had to work as a server at least one time in their life so they would understand the importance of tipping and how an extra 2 bucks to a tip can really add up.

Saying servers make shitty money is also a pretty incompetent statement because even though most make like 2.15 an hour ill make 200$ in a time span of about 4 hours. Still is not amazing but for teenagers trying to put themselves through college....

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I currently work at the local Chili's as a server (once every two weeks). I daytrade in the stock market for a living but started working as a server when i was 18 and i love the 50% off discount to all brinker restaurants so i keep working there lol. Anyways those who have been a server or are, know how much shit you have to put up with. I wish everyone had to work as a server at least one time in their life so they would understand the importance of tipping and how an extra 2 bucks to a tip can really add up.

Saying servers make shitty money is also a pretty incompetent statement because even though most make like 2.15 an hour ill make 200$ in a time span of about 4 hours. Still is not amazing but for teenagers trying to put themselves through college....

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If they suck my cock afterwards

Yeah Ill tip in restaurants and the like, but when starbucks and all those other stores add the "Tip:" line on receipts, now thats just bullshit. If a customer who comes to get a coffee is REALLY impressed with your service, theyll leave a cash tip. Say the barista makes it super fast and as you walk out, leave a buck.

I know this seems obvious, but what about valet service?

There's valet everywhere here in Los Angeles, and I didn't grow up here, so I have no clue about the usual tipping situation for valet service. I always feel like I n00b when I have to valet. Any suggestions?

$5? $10? $20, because it's a stick shift?

All depends where the valet service is being offered. A hotel, restaurant, airport, etc.

^Correct. I've been working as a Valet for over a year. We have over 25 different locations from 5 star restruants, to your average restruant such as a Chilies. The tips vary depending on how nice the location is, and sometimes how nice the car is. Our average tip most places is about 2-4 bucks. And I would say we get tipped about 90% of the time. Even if it's just a dollar.

Also, tipping the valet a few dollars before he takes your car is also a good idea. He'll usually take extra care of it and park it where it will not get a door ding.

I know that alot of people think tipping Valet's is stupid, but when we have the keys to your car, it's good to make us happy ;)

1. I don't go to places where I have to Valet, ever. In such cases I park in the nearest parking lot, and risk the ticket.
My Gym has a valet, I have never tipped the guy, but I spoke to the guy, and he lets me park my car myself in the valet section... but come Christmas time, he will get something from me.
2. I will tip when I feel necessary, but not due to service... but to necessity. You can tell who is the high school drop out, and who is working through college, the single moms, and the rich kid who works cause his parents make him, not cause he has to. It is said "God helps those who help themselves" I like to follow in those guidelines.

All this reminded me of this time I went to a buffet. Its a place I frequented, and was known by most, but they constantly change staff so w\e. One day I get this new chick. She doesn't walk me to my table, and doesn't even get my drink (which most buffets do), she hands me a glass and points to the fountain. Normally I pay debit, and will leave $1 just cause, but in this case, no tip was necessary, I did everything myself.
So as I go to the front desk for to pay, she walks up to me and of course states that I didn't leave a tip. I state (in front of the owner who was at the desk), Why should I tip? I sat myself down where you pointed, I got my own drinks and food, the only thing I didn't do was cook. Matter of fact (turning to owner), Dan (yes I addressed him by name), may I speak to one of your chefs. He returns shortly with a chef to whom I presented 20 bucks, and thanked her for the delicious food. I payed my bill and left. That waitress no longer works there.

The way I work is "if there's any doubt, leave a tip." and I like to tip very generously. If you just pick up my food off a warming tray and hand it to me, I don't tip - but if any serious work is put into serving me, they've earned my money. Except in extraordinarily rare circumstances, I always tip 20%, and if the service was exceptional or it's a place I visit often I may even tack on a few bucks on top of that. If nothing else, you're supplementing the income of someone who is likely living on a shoestring budget, and that's okay with me.

^Correct. I've been working as a Valet for over a year. We have over 25 different locations from 5 star restruants, to your average restruant such as a Chilies. The tips vary depending on how nice the location is, and sometimes how nice the car is. Our average tip most places is about 2-4 bucks. And I would say we get tipped about 90% of the time. Even if it's just a dollar.

Also, tipping the valet a few dollars before he takes your car is also a good idea. He'll usually take extra care of it and park it where it will not get a door ding.

I know that alot of people think tipping Valet's is stupid, but when we have the keys to your car, it's good to make us happy ;)

i tip a valet a dollar before and after i figure that takes me off the radar, the only thing that worries me is when the valet says..."oh sweet car" and i remember what my name is. ;)

I currently work at the local Chili's as a server (once every two weeks). I daytrade in the stock market for a living but started working as a server when i was 18 and i love the 50% off discount to all brinker restaurants so i keep working there lol. Anyways those who have been a server or are, know how much shit you have to put up with. I wish everyone had to work as a server at least one time in their life so they would understand the importance of tipping and how an extra 2 bucks to a tip can really add up.

Saying servers make shitty money is also a pretty incompetent statement because even though most make like 2.15 an hour ill make 200$ in a time span of about 4 hours. Still is not amazing but for teenagers trying to put themselves through college....

but to also feel as though it's required versus deserved/earned are 2 completely different scenarios. sure, there are a$$hole patrons that you have to deal with probably almost on a daily basis, does not mean that the attitude has to be reflected over to my table. I seldom send anything back, I just bite the bullet unless its something extremely messed up such as olives when I request no olives, or very raw meat when i request medium well. I try to be a cooperative patron and understand that its not always the servers fault for messed up orders, its also the kitchen just trying to push their orders out in a timely fashion and may miss a minus or add request. but if I end up charged for an add I will point it out and expect it to be removed from my bill, which has not happened in the past even though I point it out as soon as my order is received. then if I point it out again on my final bill I get attitude from your mess up at this point, why do you deserve a tip (or as much of a tip). I also expect my drink to remain full at all times or at least ask if I want more. the longer I go without a beverage during my meal, the tip declines. I start with a base of 15% and it can increase or decrease from there based on service. I have only once NEVER tipped. worst restaurant experience EVER. ordered and waited over 45min for my food while those around me who arrived late were getting theres. found out my ticket got "lost in the suffle" (aka still in the servers front pouch). I understand this can happen but I kept asking about it and at that point the server should have checked. would have realized my ticket was not entered and therefore either found it or at least retook the order. I went over 30min with no beverage. I finally got my meal and sure enough, it had olives on it (wet burrito) and I made sure they definitely put no olives on the order slip. I asked for it to be taken back and remade. well they didnt, they scraped the olives off as i still had a few buried under the lettuce and I could DEFINITELY taste the juice. asked to speak to a manager and I got the most attitude shrug "whatever, I will send him out when I get time". thats not the customers always right, or the customers come first attitude. they returned twice after this, once to drop off the bill, and once to bring back my card. this was probably about 45m-1hr later on the return with the bill. the manager NEVER arrived so I then went up to the bar and got him myself. finally spoke to him and the entire meal was credited back to my card. although I was not seeking for a credit like some do intentionally by complaining even though nothing is wrong. I just wanted to point out the type of service I experienced and that my presence will never return to that establishment. so to complain about "walking a day in your shoes" will sometimes fall on deaf ears.

earn the tip, you'll get the tip.

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Here is a real tip.
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but to also feel as though it's required versus deserved/earned are 2 completely different scenarios. sure, there are a$$hole patrons that you have to deal with probably almost on a daily basis, does not mean that the attitude has to be reflected over to my table. I seldom send anything back, I just bite the bullet unless its something extremely messed up such as olives when I request no olives, or very raw meat when i request medium well. I try to be a cooperative patron and understand that its not always the servers fault for messed up orders, its also the kitchen just trying to push their orders out in a timely fashion and may miss a minus or add request. but if I end up charged for an add I will point it out and expect it to be removed from my bill, which has not happened in the past even though I point it out as soon as my order is received. then if I point it out again on my final bill I get attitude from your mess up at this point, why do you deserve a tip (or as much of a tip). I also expect my drink to remain full at all times or at least ask if I want more. the longer I go without a beverage during my meal, the tip declines. I start with a base of 15% and it can increase or decrease from there based on service. I have only once NEVER tipped. worst restaurant experience EVER. ordered and waited over 45min for my food while those around me who arrived late were getting theres. found out my ticket got "lost in the suffle" (aka still in the servers front pouch). I understand this can happen but I kept asking about it and at that point the server should have checked. would have realized my ticket was not entered and therefore either found it or at least retook the order. I went over 30min with no beverage. I finally got my meal and sure enough, it had olives on it (wet burrito) and I made sure they definitely put no olives on the order slip. I asked for it to be taken back and remade. well they didnt, they scraped the olives off as i still had a few buried under the lettuce and I could DEFINITELY taste the juice. asked to speak to a manager and I got the most attitude shrug "whatever, I will send him out when I get time". thats not the customers always right, or the customers come first attitude. they returned twice after this, once to drop off the bill, and once to bring back my card. this was probably about 45m-1hr later on the return with the bill. the manager NEVER arrived so I then went up to the bar and got him myself. finally spoke to him and the entire meal was credited back to my card. although I was not seeking for a credit like some do intentionally by complaining even though nothing is wrong. I just wanted to point out the type of service I experienced and that my presence will never return to that establishment. so to complain about "walking a day in your shoes" will sometimes fall on deaf ears.

earn the tip, you'll get the tip.

Im not saying all servers are perfect by any means, im simply saying the job is more difficult then most make it out to seem. 90% of the time when food comes out wrong its the cooks/expiditers fault. (food Expo is the person that trays up the food in the back with the correct table and its their job to make sure the right food is on the right tray). If we have six tables and get caught up with one bitching at us for a mistake that we didnt even do while our other 5 tables drinks are on empty kills us.... All im saying is servers are also human and if you are someone that drinks alot simply let the server know "hey im going to down this so to save you the hassle just bring me an extra coke from the start".... Server will appreciate it and you wont run out ;)

i tip a valet a dollar before and after i figure that takes me off the radar, the only thing that worries me is when the valet says..."oh sweet car" and i remember what my name is. ;)

Well I wouldnt really worried about being on the valet's "radar" We always take care of the cars reguardless of the tip. But if you threw me a few dollars before I park your car, then most likely I will park it as close as I can get it, and when I see you comming out I will already be on my way to get your car, so you don't have to wait as long. And some places have a VIP section right up front, if you threw a $5 or so then we might even park you there. :)

Are you serious RawrX8? So all the people working in restruants working for 2.13 an hour dont deserve tips? If so then that shows alot about your character..

When I leave it a tip its because you did a good job. Not because im suppose to pitty you because you only make $2.13/hr.

Do you work RawrX8? Mommy and Daddy buy that car?

Yes, Boeing. Maybe you should tip me every day I goto work because you fly in my airplane when you go on your family trip. That seems fair in your eyes. 20% of a few million dollars please.


Because of all the butthurting haters. I do tip when go beyond the normal service of work. I went to Red Robin and a guy brought out fries without asking. Kept my strawberry lemonade always topped and when gave me the check had a to-go box behind his back if we needed it. He went far beyond his normal tasks. He got $10.

You guys are making me hungry!

If I'm interested in very speedy service I will pre-tip $5 before the meal starts and tell the wait staff that I am on a tight timeline. If everything goes well I will again tip 20% at the end of the meal. The Pre-tip'ed service is a night and day difference.

I used to valet for tips only and it kinda sucks having to sprint to their car and drive it back, issuing very prompt and courteous service and only receive $1. At least for the company I worked for we only got tips, the whole $14 or whatever they charged went straight into the owner's & business' pockets. So whenever I valet I always tip at least $5, $10 if I can swing it on top of the re-cock-u-lous cost of valet. Also it sucked to valet here in Omaha b/c of black ice, slush, snow, running out to the cars in late fall/winter.

Warren Buffet always tipped us $100 tho :)

I always tip at sit down restaurants, but if you did a shitty job you're getting 5-10% (It's self preservation, ever see Waiting? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEXKArTx5sw). Ever since I started working here... I started tipping better though, now shitty service is more like 15%.

Yeah...I thought that was a pretty shitty comment too. Sounds like someone was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. Do you work RawrX8? Mommy and Daddy buy that car?

lol +1

Being a former bartender I always tip very well unless the service was particularly bad. Even then I leave a 10%-ish tip. I know how it is to be on the other side of that situation.

When I leave it a tip its because you did a good job. Not because im suppose to pitty you because you only make $2.13/hr.



Yes, Boeing. Maybe you should tip me every day I goto work because you fly in my airplane when you go on your family trip. That seems fair in your eyes. 20% of a few million dollars please.


Because of all the butthurting haters. I do tip when go beyond the normal service of work. I went to Red Robin and a guy brought out fries without asking. Kept my strawberry lemonade always topped and when gave me the check had a to-go box behind his back if we needed it. He went far beyond his normal tasks. He got $10.

Think about it. Why would the minimum wage for waiting be A LOT lower than others? Maybe because it's assumed they'll be making money off of tips. If everyone acted like you, not many people would be willing to wait tables and they would almost definitely make below well below the actual minimum wage.

lol +1

Being a former bartender I always tip very well unless the service was particularly bad. Even then I leave a 10%-ish tip. I know how it is to be on the other side of that situation.

+1 on that.

Hey, my parents might have bought my car but they atleast made me work all kinds of shit jobs since I was 15 so I learn how to NOT act.

Because of all the butthurting haters.


No one is a butt hurting hater, you just don't seem to understand that some doesn't make jack unless they do get tipped, so by you wanting "superior" service from someone that might not be able to give it to you because they were just sat a 10 top after you, or maybe because the kitchen is bogged down, or some newbie was taking your food out and dropped it and it had to be remade, or some other shitty situation that servers have been in and get screwed by a person with your mentality for something they can't control.

It's not always sunshine and butterflies in the kitchen, sometimes service is "bad" because they're short handed and are trying to do the best they can, sometimes its "bad" because its a new guy and not many people just automatically pick up on how to be a good server on day 1.

Unless your food comes out cold, looks like it was beat on with a shoe, and has a 1 inch stack of pubes on it then you should tip the guy that SERVED you.

Just because a drink doesn't get topped off immediately (especially if you slurp down 30 seconds after the server leaves), or maybe you have to ask for your check, or they don't automatically don't bring a to-go box doesn't mean they didn't do something to deserve a little gratitude.

God I hope when you go out you go out with more than 6 people, because then they can automatically (or atleast at my place) add 15% grat. on there.

If you can't afford it, thats fine, just treat it like your car. Have your parents do it :lol2:

And as far as your Red Robin experience, either that guy only had 1 or 2 tables, or was getting help from other servers to cover his other tables while he spit-shined your shoes :)

Wow. What a bunch of cheap fucks!

I tip everyone and anyone that renders a service for me. I tip like I wish I would be tipped.

OMG - the bill at the restaurant is $36! That makes the tip about $7 if I leave 20%. I'll just leave 12% and SAVE BIG, yo!
So, that $3 means more to you than it does for the poor schlep that had to bring you your food and fill your raspberry tea 16 times? Why are you eating out, then?

Some of you people should be ashamed of yourselves.

When I waited tables, I made a whopping $3.00/hr from the employer. The rest was from tips. Assholes that don't tip are remembered and beget bad service. Only Jesus could put up with that shit and not get fed up and he's a fictitious character of a really awful book.

Same with pizza delivery. Getting paid minimum wage +$0.50/delivery sucks without tips when it's your own car. Especially when the police call any food delivery "Robbery on wheels" for a reason.

Robbery on wheels? :Wconfused

Wow. What a bunch of cheap fucks!

I tip everyone and anyone that renders a service for me. I tip like I wish I would be tipped.

OMG - the bill at the restaurant is $36! That makes the tip about $7 if I leave 20%. I'll just leave 12% and SAVE BIG, yo!
So, that $3 means more to you than it does for the poor schlep that had to bring you your food and fill your raspberry tea 16 times? Why are you eating out, then?

Some of you people should be ashamed of yourselves.

He gets it... I usually leave a 20% tip unless service wasn't up to par... then I leave 15%... if it's bad service then I will give lower depending on how bad. And I'm a college student... I dont exactly have a whole lot of money to be throwing around.

Edit: also... if you're on a date and tip poorly, that can reflect bad on you.

Robbery on wheels? :Wconfused

Yah, one of the best ways to get robbed is to be a pizza delivery driver. An inattentive driver may be carrying $200-300 or more on them by the middle of a good night. Usually, you drop some money in the till against the sales and change advance but sometimes it's too busy. Or you're too dumb.

Now, most people don't even realize that you normally drop all but $30 into the till. And they want a piece of that cash. One of our guys got held up by somebody with a finger in a pocket. The driver didn't believe him because, really, who robs somebody with a gun in an empty alley and doesn't show the gun. Another driver (I think he was Iranian) was held up by a robber with a gun. He told the robber to fuck off and walked away. The robber just ran away. Oh, these two happened in Champaign, IL, a quiet college town.

We used 18" curved knifes to cut the pizza's. When one got chipped pretty badly I grabbed it and kept it in a place easy to reach from the driver's seat.

I double the tax and most often than not, I round up a little extra.

I've always been big on tipping. In places that I regularly visit, I want the servers to know that if they get me at their table that I'll take care of them. That way(in a perfect world), they'll take care of me. Plus, I have a horrible fear of people doing terrible things to my food.

I've always wondered this, are you suppose to tip bank tellers?

It seems like a lot of people are on the side of the waiters. Tipping is a reasonable thing to do, and I would of course appreciate it if I were a waiter too, but still....

Remember that THE ONLY REASON YOU GET WAGES AT ALL, MUCH LESS TIPS, IS BECAUSE THE CUSTOMER PAYS THE BILL PERIOD.


This makes me want to side with the customer. If someone doesn't wanna tip you, or they tip poorly, then too f'ing bad. They still are paying your wages just by buying the food at all.

Without reading what everyone wrote, please take into account states are set up differently. Here in california everyone makes fun of me for tipping like I do, but I am used to Michigan where the waiters/waitresses make 1/2 minimum wage. Why the hell wouldn't you tip?
Ok I understand some service is realllllly bad. I get that, but also take into account you have no idea what just happened in their life or what is going on with them. Secondly if you are a dick about tipping, be up front about it.
I have a strategy for some of you non tippers.
I start with $5 per person eating under my bill. If I am sitting for more than 5:00 minutes without even placing my drink order I may announce that I am starting with this number to said server. You take that $5.00 for ever screwup you take money away. It's fun you get to value items and the service. Now I have had people that were so freaking good I will add to the amount. (For example my drink never reaches less then 3/4 empty)

Some of you that have never worked in the food business, also take into account many places hand out tip share. So that $5 you just gave up became $2. You sat at their table for 3 hours and gave them $2 and they make half of minimum wage....You sir are a dick...

Ok also some of you that start yelling about food being late or not correct. Yes the order should be correct no mustard all that jazz servers job to check, but meat being to cold or not right not quite the servers fault. Also the server isn't cooking amount of time it takes is not their fault.

Also if you go in at 4:00p.m. and get pissed at your servers because they are coming too slow or food is taking forever....you went in at the bussiest of times deal with it.

Now that aside, original poster said about Starbucks and Pizza when I pick it up things of that nature. Yeah no those upset me too. I'm paying for a pizza that is the service. Nothing extra. You cooked the pizza I'm picking it up. I'm paying $20 because you cooked it not me. If you want to charge me frozen pizza prices and I get to tip thats different, but it is already factored in. I saw on of those tip lines at something funny one day. Oh yeah it was the yogart place....It's self serve what am I tipping for? I am ok with a tip jar because thats a loose change drop, but yeah the line on the receipt is odd.

Without reading what everyone wrote, please take into account states are set up differently. Here in california everyone makes fun of me for tipping like I do, but I am used to Michigan where the waiters/waitresses make 1/5 minimum wage. Why the hell wouldn't you tip?
Ok I understand some service is realllllly bad. I get that, but also take into account you have no idea what just happened in their life or what is going on with them. Secondly if you are a dick about tipping, be up front about it.
I have a strategy for some of you non tippers.
I start with $5 per person eating under my bill. If I am sitting for more than 5:00 minutes without even placing my drink order I may announce that I am starting with this number to said server. You take that $5.00 for ever screwup you take money away. It's fun you get to value items and the service. Now I have had people that were so freaking good I will add to the amount. (For example my drink never reaches less then 3/4 empty)

Some of you that have never worked in the food business, also take into account many places hand out tip share. So that $5 you just gave up became $2. You sat at their table for 3 hours and gave them $2 and they make half of minimum wage....You sir are a dick...

Ok also some of you that start yelling about food being late or not correct. Yes the order should be correct no mustard all that jazz servers job to check, but meat being to cold or not right not quite the servers fault. Also the server isn't cooking amount of time it takes is not their fault.

Also if you go in at 4:00p.m. and get pissed at your servers because they are coming too slow or food is taking forever....you went in at the bussiest of times deal with it.

Now that aside, original poster said about Starbucks and Pizza when I pick it up things of that nature. Yeah no those upset me too. I'm paying for a pizza that is the service. Nothing extra. You cooked the pizza I'm picking it up. I'm paying $20 because you cooked it not me. If you want to charge me frozen pizza prices and I get to tip thats different, but it is already factored in. I saw on of those tip lines at something funny one day. Oh yeah it was the yogart place....It's self serve what am I tipping for? I am ok with a tip jar because thats a loose change drop, but yeah the line on the receipt is odd.

You sir, understand what it is like to be a server. I applaud you. If more people understand half the things you do, my job would be so much easier.

It seems like a lot of people are on the side of the waiters. Tipping is a reasonable thing to do, and I would of course appreciate it if I were a waiter too, but still....

Remember that THE ONLY REASON YOU GET WAGES AT ALL, MUCH LESS TIPS, IS BECAUSE THE CUSTOMER PAYS THE BILL PERIOD.


This makes me want to side with the customer. If someone doesn't wanna tip you, or they tip poorly, then too f'ing bad. They still are paying your wages just by buying the food at all.

wages that is almost 1/4 of what minimum wage is now...

ok, guys I think the discussion has slightly gone OT. We all tip at the restaurant, but do you tip anywhere else!? ex. my local starbucks has a tip label in their receipt. The chinesse buffet that I go to has a tip lable in their receipt and its a buffet. There are plenty of other places that want your tip but they dont really seem like they should get it. So do you tip them or not? lets leave the restaurants and bars or pubs out of the discussions cause we all know those jobs and probably worked as a waiter at some point.

doesnt matter. People have thousands of choices when it comes to buying food. They chose to pay you by eating there, even if it's not much.

ok, guys I think the discussion has slightly gone OT. We all tip at the restaurant, but do you tip anywhere else!? ex. my local starbucks has a tip label in their receipt. The chinesse buffet that I go to has a tip lable in their receipt and its a buffet. There are plenty of other places that want your tip but they dont really seem like they should get it. So do you tip them or not? lets leave the restaurants and bars or pubs out of the discussions cause we all know those jobs and probably worked as a waiter at some point.

Only tip restraunt workers and delivery guys.

If I have to drive myself to the place, and basically serve myself at the buffet but you ask me what drink I want and bring me refills, that's just part of your job description imo.

You sir, understand what it is like to be a server. I applaud you. If more people understand half the things you do, my job would be so much easier.

I have done all of the shitty jobs. Start up a fast food one i'll chime in on that too lol. I've bussed, I've done dishes, Shipping, Package handeling, printing, graphical design, oil changes, bagger, grew up on a farm (being free labor blows).
I watched 4 "hells angels" destroy a poor little girl in Wendy's because they wanted un salted frys and she didn't have any ready. They bitched about a tomato being on their burger. They started calling her stupid and asking what the fuck was wrong with her. THEN they had the audacity to turn to me and say sorry this girl is fucking up my order (I was patently waiting now 15 minutes because of this rediculous specialty order). I was like dude pick the tomatoes off, don't order frys from a location that all the employees are trained to put salt on the fry's without thinking and don't special order food from a fast food joint. Manger finally came out threw away all of his food and said you're just going to have to wait then sir. LOL They started all kinds of hell I just started laughing. They were not very happy with me either.

Only tip restraunt workers and delivery guys.

If I have to drive myself to the place, and basically serve myself at the buffet but you ask me what drink I want and bring me refills, that's just part of your job description imo.

That one is on the fence with me. May not call for a massive tip, but if they are refilling your drinks that is a service. I'm used to buffets that have drink dispensers so it is all self serve they just grab plates, but if they are keeping your drink full and not messing it up putting a dollar on the table isn't going to kill you.

That one is on the fence with me. May not call for a massive tip, but if they are refilling your drinks that is a service. I'm used to buffets that have drink dispensers so it is all self serve they just grab plates, but if they are keeping your drink full and not messing it up putting a dollar on the table isn't going to kill you.

OMG, it's like you work with me. Have you guys ever wondered who clears the 2-10 plates off your table when you leave?

That one is on the fence with me. May not call for a massive tip, but if they are refilling your drinks that is a service. I'm used to buffets that have drink dispensers so it is all self serve they just grab plates, but if they are keeping your drink full and not messing it up putting a dollar on the table isn't going to kill you.

True, the one place I have in mind are 2 different chinese buffet places that are here where I live, for the longest time it was self-serve all the way. They sat you, gave you a straw and a glass and then you did everything from there.

Then a few years back they changed it to where they take care of your drink but you do the rest.

I'm all for tipping when people don't make minimum wage, but for something so simplistic I can't imagine they get paid the usual 2.15 an hour, which is why I don't really bother tipping unless I just guzzle down 50 drinks within the hour I'm there.

I don't drink much when out eating so I'll get maybe 1 refill while there plus the initial fill 'er up. Not saying I would bitch about tipping a dollar or two, I just don't think it necessary, most of the time I just get up and fill the drink up myself because they're in plain sight in the dining area...

I view a service like that more so like a greeter opening a door for me somewhere. Obviously isn't required for me to enjoy my stay, but I don't think its worth me to pull out my wallet and give you a buck for it either = /

People that make a living off their tips, I'll help them out and tip generously. People that get paid a decent wage but the place requires them to get the drinks I'm not inclined to.

I certainly wouldn't walk into a job like that expecting a tip like I would if I worked at a place where the server did everything.

Edit: As for Starbucks or places like Subway (mine have a tip jars) I don't tip. Running hot water through coffee beans and adding cream or sugar doesn't really warrant a tip, besides its an hourly job anyway. Same with Subway.

OMG, it's like you work with me. Have you guys ever wondered who clears the 2-10 plates off your table when you leave?

bussers?

Here's a good one... bellhops when they bring your luggage up.

bussers?

Here's a good one... bellhops when they bring your luggage up.


Never once has someone carried my luggage up which means thats an expensive hotel and you are so rich please tip the poor bastard.

I never tip more than 5% if there's no valid reason.
No, i'm not a douchebag... here waiters and waitress do get a good pay :)
I guess that it depends on how they behave anyway, provided that food here costs more both as an absolute value and in comparison to their pays so if you end up paying 80€ for a cheap dinner for 2 you have to understand that that bill is like 8% of their pay for part time (night) waiter\waitress. the 20% of that 8% would individually be too much.
With this system a good waiter earns about 2000€\month in a normal restaurant, more in tips than of real pay so i guess that it is fairly ok to leave around a 3\5% of what you paid, provided that the average pay here for a non-collegiate is around 1200\1300€!

Here's a good one... bellhops when they bring your luggage up.

Yes, you should definitely tip bellhops. I usually tip a fiver.

Here's another one, do you leave a tip for the chambermaid? I usually don't, but it's because I usually forget to, not because I don't think I should. Imagine being a chambermaid, that job must suck and I'm sure the pay isn't great.

I think the biggest problem with tipping is all this confusing about when you should tip and how much. I think it would be better to do away with tips and pay all service workers a decent wage.

However, tips can be lucrative so most people who work for them like the system the way it is. It sucks when they get stiffed and I feel bad for them, but overall they make pretty damn good money from tips if they do a decent job. I've known waiters and bartenders who brought home over $100 in tips on a good night, tax free. Not bad. Of course, not all nights are good nights, that's the rub, and that's why not tipping pisses people off.

Never once has someone carried my luggage up which means thats an expensive hotel and you are so rich please tip the poor bastard.

I've had bellhops carry my luggage up when I'm on business trips. Just because my employer puts me up in a nice hotel for a conference doesn't mean I'm rich. I'm not.

But I tip bellhops, because really, it's expected when they bring your luggage up. If you don't believe me, notice the awkward silence after they bring the luggage into the room and just stand there, waiting for something.

Here's a tip, have a folded bill(s) with the right amount in your pocket when checking in. That way you don't have to dig through your wallet and say "sorry, all I have are twenties." You'll look an ass.

If your employer paid for you to be in a nice hotel I doubt you are making the shit cash the bellhops are lol. Just saying.
After being in car sales I think you should have to tip car salesmen lol. Evil people that have no idea. Spend 10 hours with you then say they want to think it over. Me being nice say sure. On the way home they see the same car at another dealership and purchase the car because I already sold them on it. I call next day they say they already bought it and that I was so great and thanks for landing them on the correct car for them that they bought it from honda.....So thats 10 hours at $0/hr. True story no joke brand new Civic SI. Only people that make crazy money at dealerships are the assholes that throw your keys on the roof so you can't leave till you buy a car. So new rule started here you spend 10 hours with a car salesmen you better fing tip them if you don't buy a car.

Are you out of your fucking mind? Tipping car salesmen?

Sorry you spent 10 hours with someone and didn't get a sale, too fucking bad. I hate asshole car salesman who think that you owe it to them to buy a car just because they need the commission. Fuck that, we aren't talking about pocket change here, we're talking about a major purchase involving debt for years. I'll take all the time I want and take as many test drives as I want to find the right car for me, screw you and your entitlement attitude.

And don't expect me to feel sorry for some car salesman whose having a bad week, every car salesman I've met was an asshole looking to play me for a sucker. You really expect me to feel bad for you? Forget it, pal.

EDIT: I wasn't really aiming that at you personally, but at car salesmen in general. If you're an honest one that doesn't try to screw people then good for you, I'd like to buy a car from you, but every car salesman I've ever dealt with deserved a kick to the groin, not a tip.

If your employer paid for you to be in a nice hotel I doubt you are making the shit cash the bellhops are lol. Just saying.


I've actually worked in a role/time where this held true for me. I was new to the office with huge bills at home but good pay from a good company. They rented me a great car and put me up in a very nice hotel BUT I personally had very little money. Therefore the bellhop got a thankyou and the offer for a drink on me later (after a $5 tip). It's not always what the company pays that determines what you as a person can afford to give (no matter what you'd like to give).

I lived with a waitress for awhile and once gave her a $50 tip for coffee (I owed her $40 anyway) but for the next 6 months I got the best service of anyone at her resturant, no matter who served me (they didn't know she lived with me). You do get remembered if you are a great tipper or a crappy one.

However the best service I've ever got was when 30 Ren fest members hit a Perkins. We took half the floor and told them at the start...If we put cash out near our water glass it means we want service. Come ask what we want and get it and the cash is yours. We got the best service I've ever seen in a Perkins and my friend (who was working) got the best tips in a long time from us.

As for the car salesmen part...you cant fix stupid. If you made the sale and another dealership got the money, it's the customer's fault. They won't find the loyalty at the other site because the other site didn't work at it. I have a 91 escort GT that I bought in 91. The dealer still remembers me and bends over backwards for me. Why, because Scott (the person that talked me into buying it) did everything right and made sure I was happy. In turn I refer others to him for sales. They still try to sell me a mustangs now and then but I think the 8 has slowed that down a bit...even though i still have the escort. Anyway, it's not the sales person fault in this case...it's the buyer's. You did the work, you should get the credit. It doesn't always work that way though and I'm not about to tip someone who makes serveral K off a sale at sticker price.

Something I just thought of... Slightly off topic (on the topic of tipping in restaurants).

In japan, you aren't supposed to tip. I'm not sure what kind of wages a waiter/waitress gets, but I know that it's not standard practice to tip. I've heard stories of americans tipping and having someone from the restaurant chasing after them because they forgot money on the table.

I've been working in restaurants for the past 5 years...I'm 23 now. I stopped going to school for sometime and continued going again (chemistry major). While I dont think of myself as a deadbeat who still works at a restaurant when I should have a better job...Its almost like I made a career out of it. I do go home and study wines and liquors and sh*t, and I do have alot of pressure at work. Daily they check my uniform from head to toe...anyways it does take time (5 years ) and effort to learn about different wine regions of the world so that I can give someone a good dining experience when they buy a $1200 bottle of wine. Just like it takes a barber years and years of cutting hair to give u that pretty little haircut. On that same note, me being a server, I go out and get horrible service just about everywhere I go. Service is bad? leave the minimum 15%. 18% for good service and 20% for excellent service. I have gotten $200 tips from taken care of a table of 5 people and I've gotten 0. but I agree that tipping is not always required.

oh and if u think servers dont make money...u can make $300 on a 7hour shift on a regular basis. not at chilis of course

I generally tip will. But if the service is crappy i hope they don't expect much.

I tip all sorts of people in different functions. Obviously the waiters/watresses, delivery peoples, barbers etc., but also at some stores if I get great service.

For instance, I bring donuts, muffins and coffee etc to my local service department for my car. Those guys are constantly helping me, giving me discounts on service, labour, taking the time to explain things to me....and I do ask a lot of questions.

I bring a case of beer to my local bike store whenever I take the bikes for a tune-up, and similar to the rigging store that does all my sailboat maintenance.

Even at a sports store if I'm looking to buy something and someone offers me actual helpful advice, I'll toss them a 5. I've had people tell me to go to another store, they carry a better product. $5 bucks for you.

I guarantee I have saved far more on parts and service in my life by handing out a little something than I have spent.

What's starting to piss me off is every coffee house, fast food joint, etc with a tip jar. Right beside the charity jar no less. Guess where my money goes.

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And I still wouldn't tip. Asshole suit flame on.

Wow... arrested for refusing to tip, for ADMITTEDLY lousy service.

I think I just made a conscious decision not to eat at restaurants anymore... I'll just cook for my friends or BBQ.

Wow... arrested for refusing to tip, for ADMITTEDLY lousy service.

I think I just made a conscious decision not to eat at restaurants anymore... I'll just cook for my friends or BBQ.

No joke. That is ridiculous.

living in philadelphia can be ridiculous at times.

I tip and tip big. Always. Unless there was a major fuck up, like, the watress spilled my coffee in my lap and acted like it was no big deal.

I tip the paper delivery guy; I tip my garbage man, recycling man and lawn pick up guy. All of which are employed by the county. I do it on holidays and dont hold back.

When I am on vacation I regularly tip 25% and if I get good service in a poor place, I tip as much as 100%, or more.

I particularly tip regularly in anyplace where I might be recognized the next time around. I even tip when I go and PICK UP MY OWN PIZZA or chinese food. If your local chinese food restarant asks for your name or number, tip them good a couple times when you come pick up food and you might see them go around people in line in front of you to get you out the door quicker. Had it happen to me.

Sushi place? ALWAYS tip. Uni in the states is never going to be fresh, but you want your sushi guy to recognize you and let you know that the uni was delivered that day. Tip him.

THe only excuse for folks with careers to not tip is if there was extrodinarily poor service. Even then, I would talk to the manager first before not tipping.

Catch more flies with honey and all that shit.