Whos gonna pick it up on Tuesday? Im looking foward to it... its been awhile since the last good NFS came out.

I might. Going to read reviews first. If i recall the last one was a big fail.

Yes, Undercover was a big FAIL. NFS Shift is suppose to be similar to Grid with the reverse time thing.

ugh... lol i was not a fan of grid, just seams to unrealistic (not to say any racing games are) if its like grid i might not like it very much, only time will tell

Yeah it had better not have the handling of GRID. I'm still waiting for GT5. The 8 in GT5:P is so realistic.

ya i bought gt5 prologue quite awhile ago, kinda forgot about that game.

im actually a forza guy :)

Need for Speed games have been too bad for too long. I'd probably be a lot more interested if they had released a demo, but as it stands, I will be leaving it on the shelf unless I get a chance to try it.

NFS Underground 2 was a very good game, it's the best in the NFS installments. I'm just hoping that NFS Shift won't be as bad as ProStreet and Undercover... at least ProStreet was a bit more realistic except for the 300mph top speed runs.

I played and beat almost all the NFS games.
Prostreet was weak, carbon was the best one.

Going to pick this one up and see how it goes.

Carbon sucks, I was not able to make a 800whp RX-8. :(

+1 on carbon being garbage. The only thing i semi-liked was the canyon challenges w/the bosses.

and

+1 on being a forza guy - Drifto ftw :rock:


Shift looks like a shot in the dark to me. It'll probably go either way with me. With the ability to detail the car to my liking combined with the look of grid (not the feel of it tho) i might mess around with it for a lil' bit. They'll definitely need to touch up the way the cars handle a lil' more if they want more replay value tho...

p.s.-IDGAF, NFS hot pursuit 2 was my favorite of all time followed by most wanted :rock:

my opinion was that nfs was great and slowly went downhill after nfs 2, most wanted was good, carbon was ok, pro street was iffy, and undercover was garbarge.

The last good NFS game was Most Wanted. It went back to the roots of 1-6 but kept the ricer customization of Underground. Everything after that has sucked... although the Canyon races in Carbon were pretty sweet.

I haven't liked the last few NFS's, I hope this one's better but I won't hold my breath. I never messed with the body modifications just paint and wheels and left it. If it's more like Grid I will be pleased, never played Forza so I have no comment.

The last NFS I bought was Pro Street. Then it stopped working. Not because of my disc, or my machine. EA released a patch that broke the game. I gave up on EA that day.

The new NFS doesn't have an rx8!!!!! what gives!!!!!?

I just saw a commercial for this earlier, will DEFINITLY rent it. Looked pretty bad ass.

The new NFS doesn't have an rx8!!!!! what gives!!!!!?

wait what!?

:ftw:

someone confirm this please

if it doesn't have an 8 then the game will stay on the shelf for me...



....fanboi and what? :fruit:

Atilla, I looked at the car-list and from what I found they don't. They basically have all these supercars....

:banghead:

looks like most wanted and hot pursuit 2 are gonna be the only one's i really liked. :(

It does have an 06 rx8 as well as many other cars

http://www.nfscars.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24538

heres a different source as well

http://www.totalvideogames.com/Need-for-Speed-Shift/news/EA-Reveals-NFS-Shift-Car--Track-Lists-14176.html

YAY!!!! see I read on that same forum there there wasn't going to be one.

Glad I am wrong. I'm going to buy it now.

:P i would not have even started this thread if the 8 was not in the game ^_^

As skeptical as I am about this game, early reviews are extremely positive. I don't want to get my hopes up in case it's GRID-like (since I hated that game) but the reviews are coming in much higher than I anticipated - it has an 87 (Eurogamer) and 90 (IGN) so far.

im glad the Miata is here.
I loved Underground 2, with the Miata, which was a Tier 2 car, that I owned everyone in online.
YES!!!

:P i would not have even started this thread if the 8 was not in the game ^_^

good man :cool:

You guys are CRAZY!

Carbon was the best NFS! It has the sweet canyon races and the awesome drift matches!!

Yes, Undercover was a big FAIL. NFS Shift is suppose to be similar to Grid with the reverse time thing.

I played that game for one day. Thank god I only downloaded it :)

IMO NFS Underground 2 And NFS hot pursuit 2 were the best.

I'll probably play Shift a bit, but my money's on Forza 3. I can't wait. :P

Best NFS was high stakes hand down it was the first major race game that used real cars on real roads with cops spike strips and all that it was just very real with the concept and setup. Now HP2 was ok only thing that made it garbadge was the helicopter with the tnt barrels I mean are you serious. Underground was a history maker because it was the first game to let you take badged cars and customize them even though you couldn't damage them or be chased by cops that game was on it own level. Now most wanted was another history maker once again the guys at EA games took two worlds and brought them together but I think that was there last peak in the NFS series. I think they need to go back to the board look at there past sucesses and think what they could do to reinvent themselves.

i liked "Most Wanted" the best. :)

I was actually looking at this yesterday when i passed by gamestop. supposedly the graphics and the physics are supposed to be way better this time. plus Vaugh Gitten jr. spent like 100hrs helping develop the game. not like that matters but we'll see :)

To me, NFS II has been the best NFS, love Jurassic Park!

Best NFS was high stakes hand down it was the first major race game that used real cars on real roads with cops spike strips and all that it was just very real with the concept and setup. Now HP2 was ok only thing that made it garbadge was the helicopter with the tnt barrels I mean are you serious. Underground was a history maker because it was the first game to let you take badged cars and customize them even though you couldn't damage them or be chased by cops that game was on it own level. Now most wanted was another history maker once again the guys at EA games took two worlds and brought them together but I think that was there last peak in the NFS series. I think they need to go back to the board look at there past sucesses and think what they could do to reinvent themselves.

Underground, a history maker was not. Awful awful game. Hot Pursuit > Most Wanted > Carbon

Goes without saying the Original was the most awesome.

No it was a history making game since at the time it was a new concept that no one else had tried which lead to a trend that later just ended horribly but most trends do.

For those saying they don't want the game to be GRID-like.. I don't know but that game is sick. I have it on the PS3 and I love it. Doesn't beat forza of course but the graphics and collisions are amazing being an arcade type racing game. Wish the game had an RX-8, then it'd be a masterpiece. ;)

I'll probably rent the new NFS.

There hasn't been an NFS I've found anywhere near fun nor enjoyable since Underground 2, and from what I can tell, Shift is no better. So I think I'll pass on this one.

omfg i completely forgot about Highstakes! That game was the shit! Mclaren F1 LM ftw!!!!

I guess I'm the only one who liked Prostreet.
The grip races in that were awesome, and while it seemed that the cars had more grip than physics should allow, it was fun, and realistic enough...
If Shift is like that, I'll buy it, but I wish EA would stop being lazy with their programming on the PS3. I'll have to get it for the box...

High stakes was good but IMO hot pursuit 2 was more fun.

loved the car list :yumyum:


A McLaren F1
McLaren F1 LM
Mercedes CLK-GTR
B Chevrolet Corvette Z06
Dodge Viper GTS
Ferrari F50
Lamborghini Diablo 6.0 VT
Lamborghini Murciélago
Porsche 911 Turbo
Porsche Carrera GT
C Aston Martin V12 Vanquish
BMW Z8
Ferrari 360 Spider
Ferrari 360 Modena
Ferrari 550 Barchetta
Ford SVT Mustang Cobra R
D BMW M5
HSV Coupé GTS
Jaguar XKR
E Ford Crown Victoria
Ford TS50
Lotus Elise
Mercedes CL55 AMG
Opel Speedster
Vauxhall VX220



before hot pursuit i didn't even know these cars existed lol

im actually a forza guy :)

Forza ftw.

I love Forza as well, however forza 2 has been out for way too long so until forza 3 comes out i need a different racing game to substitute, and im hoping nfs shift will be it.

^just learn how to drift :D:

that's what i did...shortly after reaching level 32 i realized i was kinda beating a dead horse after a while. When i started drifting, forza 2 became a whole different game lol. I had a free 30 day trial of LIVE and joined team drifting - it was fun. Now all my cars have both track and drift setups...:bigok:

Ive had live forever... Whats team drifting?

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^this

i started small w/a no name team and started getting the handle on things. It was actually pretty fun...at one point i actually forgot that i was playing forza lol

Lol that looks a lil fun maybe ill give it a try :P

^I'll give you a head start - The FD and 86 are the easiest to tune for drift. No need for lots of hp. My 86 is NA and i can pretty much drift the entire tsukuba short track w/out stopping.

Setup matters though - it's considerably easier to drift on forza 2 compared to gt though. Forza lets you get away with a lot - feint into corners and just throttle control is probably the easiest...:bigok:

Wait, is there actually drifting on Forza2 or are you guys just drifting through regular races?

^on live there's actual drift battles. it's kinda fun when you have a good group.

oh my bad. i just reread your post. There's actually no drift races on forza 2. :p:

We just drift on regular courses.

Gotcha, As soon as the panthers are done getting their asses beat today I am gonna put in Forza 2 and get an FD and try it out lol.

^:rofl:

Poor carolina :icon_no2:

Apparently I have done it wrong, I have built a ~700 Hp FC and I cant keep it pointed in a straight line, even in 4th gear LOL.

^:rofl:

dude...my FD is barely making 350hp and my 86 has like 150 haha

So you are saying that I should maybe tone it down a little? Lol.

just a smidge...like 698 should do it :D:

Lol, I tuned it down to about 350 and it became more manageable.

yeah, i mainly maxed out my suspension and kept the motor with a moderate tune only really changing the gearing. My 3rd gear is my best gear.

Any set up tips/suggestions?

I agree, your HP just needs to be high enough to keep your tires loose. I would help, but my drift tunes aren't amazing. It's something I've just started getting into. It's a blast, especially when you've been playing the same game for years now. XD

Did I read correctly that Shift has the time-rewind feature like GRID? I cannot begin to tell you how much I hated GRID. I honestly don't think I've ever been more disappointed in a racing game.

I pre-ordered yesterday because I have been jonesing for a decent racing game for quite some time now.

I am, the creators of the pc game GTR made this game. and yes GTR is the best racing sim ever made (even better then GT series).

i never bought a NFS game, but this will be the first, just because of the creators. i know they make awesome racing sims for hte pc.

I got shift today.

Its ok....not like i thought it would be -- its not like carbon or even prostreet.
Its trying to be like forza or project gotham

Here are some crappy pics i took

http://needforspeed.com/SpeedAPI/ws/game/1.0/nfsps2-360/photomode/37013118/image
http://needforspeed.com/SpeedAPI/ws/game/1.0/nfsps2-360/photomode/37013130/image

oh snap!

How's the rx8?

So what do you think? Worth it?

Its one of those games you gotta play for yourself.
Like me....I loved Carbon and im not really into tracking kinda games but its cool.

The rx8 is the first car i picked to play with -- its good but its a tier 1 car so you dump it pretty quick. This is a real track game not like carbon or most wanted.

370z drift match:
http://needforspeed.com/SpeedAPI/ws/game/1.0/nfsps2-360/photomode/37017489/image
http://needforspeed.com/SpeedAPI/ws/game/1.0/nfsps2-360/photomode/37017481/image

Who wants to a play a game about something you can actually go do?...

Alex, you can actually go drive a McLaren? Must be nice!

I'll probably buy it since I buy every NFS game.

Alex, you can actually go drive a McLaren? Must be nice!


No, but I mean race cars on a track. That I can go do.

But I can't go do what they do in NFS MW or underground two. That's the fun. If I can go do it in real life, it does not seem as fun to me.

Shift got a pretty nice lineup of cars.

They got everything from 2000GTR to the vayron

Its one of those games you gotta play for yourself.
Like me....I loved Carbon and im not really into tracking kinda games but its cool.The rx8 is the first car i picked to play with -- its good but its a tier 1 car so you dump it pretty quick. This is a real track game not like carbon or most wanted.

370z drift match:
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so that means ill like it. you seem to like more arcade racers then a sim type of game correct?

here is the video review http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14319193/need-for-speed-shift/videos/nfsshift_vdr_091009.html

yah if chris roper likes, then that maens its good. he is a major gt series fanboy

w00t w00t - if it's not like carbon that means i'll probably like it!! :D:

Im acctually more excited after seeing those pictures, looks pretty sweet.

The more I hear and read about this game the more I am getting into it. I may pick it up tomorrow :D:

forza is the shit.. i actually enjoyed prostreet for a little while, but it got boring quick. Forza never gets old. This may sound noobish, but i learned alot from forza.. i know it's not entirely realistic, but it's pretty good

I been playing the game ALL DAY lol
Its growing fast on me as i didn't like it before but i guess i like it -- if you don't like carbon or arcade racers you will definitely like this game! Alfy i think you will like it. It does have like knocking other racers off the track and making them do spins but you dont have too.

Incoming Maserati pictures.
http://needforspeed.com/SpeedAPI/ws/game/1.0/nfsps2-360/photomode/37019802/image
http://needforspeed.com/SpeedAPI/ws/game/1.0/nfsps2-360/photomode/37019825/image
http://needforspeed.com/SpeedAPI/ws/game/1.0/nfsps2-360/photomode/37019988/image

Is there a 1st-person view that isn't a cockpit view? As in, all I want to see is the road and a HUD. lol Is that an option?

Picking up my copy today? Anybody else getting it? We should race online..:naughty:

I've got mine pre-ordered, I swing through after work to pick it up. However, my girlfriend has the day off today, so I doubt I will be playing much. Hopefully I can jump in with both feet tomorrow.

Gametrailers.com gave it a 9.1 I think. I watched the review and saw that they had a vinyl of a big ol' rotor, so w00t to that!

:woot:

I picked up the local blockbusters only copy of it for ps3 :) lol.

Guess I know how unproductive I will be today...

Is there damage?

Is there a 1st-person view that isn't a cockpit view? As in, all I want to see is the road and a HUD. lol Is that an option?

I dont like the cockpit view so im with you on that -- They have all different views as in other games you not stuck with just 1 view.

Damn.

Guess I'm gonna have to get gamefly.

Every time I get a new game i beat it in like a day or two and then I never touch it again. lol

Plus with gamefly you can trade in your old games and get money towards your account :)

:bangs head against door: NOT ANOTHER TERRIBLE GAME!!!

For some reason, I love buying games and I never sell them, even when I will never ever ever play them again.

The last 2 games I've bought for my PS3 (Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 and NCAA Football 2010) have both been huge disappointments. Usually, I play Tiger non-stop for like 2 months, but I just never got into this one. And NCAA I hadn't played in years, but I used to love it, so I figured I'd get hooked. But I got bored with it after like a week, and it's been collecting dust ever since.

Here's hoping I won't go 0-for-3 with Shift.

Is there damage?
Yes, but so far, this game is ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY HORRIBLE!!!!!

Not only is the gameplay pretty shitty, but the controls are shitty, and the physics is equivelant to excitebike...

I've read that the controls take a bit of tweaking to get to the right settings. It's got great reviews so far though.

Yes, but so far, this game is ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY HORRIBLE!!!!!

Not only is the gameplay pretty shitty, but the controls are shitty, and the physics is equivelant to excitebike...

HAHAHAH excite bike!!! i love that game

This game looked so promising...from what I'm hear it is teh suk...oh well...back to playing undercover on my iPhone

Damn.

Guess I'm gonna have to get gamefly.

Every time I get a new game i beat it in like a day or two and then I never touch it again. lol

Plus with gamefly you can trade in your old games and get money towards your account :)

Gamefly FTW! I have it but i purchased this game cause they never have stock of new games lol

My brother got the game, he says likes it so far. but he is enjoying dirt 2 alot. he is mad because they dont have an Evo or STI, since he owns a evo LOL. but the only complaint he has , and will be mine if i buy it today is. can you switch out the gas button? i prefer X buttont o be gas, and my Gear up and Gear down to be the L1 and R1. he says control option screen doenst allow x be gas etc. also i dont like playing auto shift, so . this is only thing that will make up my mind if i buy this game. i really do, but like i sais, i dont like shoulders buttons to be gas and what ever butons for manual.

i dont feel like pulling out my steering wheel every time i want to play this game. any how, if someone can see if they change out the gas to x i sure would appreiciate it.

I can check if it will let you map buttons Alfy, but I am guessing no. To me, that is the ultimate in stupid design to be honest. It drives me up the wall when a game won't let me set up the control scheme I wanted.

I remember in NFS ProStreet, they made the shoulder buttons the brake and gas, and I hated it at first but eventually got used to it, but I'd rather just be able to set it how I want and move on.

Then get a logitech G25. That's what I did :)

Then get a logitech G25. That's what I did :) lol that is what i have lol. but i dotn feel like pulling out the race seat plus wheel every tiem i want to play this game.

an ty yeahyeah for checking for me.

dood do you have gt5p? Whats your account name i'll add you to friends :D

alfy27, btw i have GT5 thread going. you shoudl check it ou http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=182089

Alfy, should have mentioned I don't have it yet, and won't til this evening after work. But if the verdict is still out on whether or not your can map your buttons, I'll check when I get home.

sounds good. i think ill buy it, but wont take off the wrapping. thanks yeah yah

The driver/manufacturer battles are the most retarded thing ever...

Spin out the other guy, you win lol.

Alfy, should have mentioned I don't have it yet, and won't til this evening after work. But if the verdict is still out on whether or not your can map your buttons, I'll check when I get home.
Cannot map them out... Three preconfigured configurations...
sounds good. i think ill buy it, but wont take off the wrapping. thanks yeah yah
Save your money.

^^ fuck, thanks hoss. guess ill just wait for gt5 lol.

i can always drag this stupid wheel and chair out of the other room, but jsut to much of a hassle if i just want to play the game for a hour or less. any ways thanks hoss.

Metacritic: Playstation 3 - Need for Speed SHIFT (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/needforspeedshift)

Not saying you're not entitled to your opinion, just playing Devil's Advocate.

No prob, The other NFS games were fun when you could run from cops and all that stuff, but this thing is just pretty much awful... They tried to make a serious racing game, but they didnt bother to factor in realistic handling characteristics at all...

Metacritic: Playstation 3 - Need for Speed SHIFT (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/needforspeedshift)

Not saying you're not entitled to your opinion, just playing Devil's Advocate.
I guess some people may enjoy it, but after playing the GT series and Forza 2, this doesnt come close to comparing...

Just a few minutes ago I was taking a Ford GT around a corner in third gear at 150 mph... And to pass my competitors I simply battle-rammed them out of the way... I would rather drive something with realistic physics and penalties than just hammer down and go.

I am about to take my RX8 through Laguna Seca, will probably hit the corkscrew at 90.

I haven't played it yet, I am ... anxious to say the least. I adored Gran Turismo, above all others, but I have also enjoyed some of the NFS and Midnight Club titles. I will say, I LOATHED Grid. Everyone else seemed to love it, but I despised it.

One question Hoss - does it have the "Flashback" feature all racing games seem required to have now where you can "rewind" back to a previous point in the race to replay a section?

No prob, The other NFS games were fun when you could run from cops and all that stuff, but this thing is just pretty much awful... They tried to make a serious racing game, but they didnt bother to factor in realistic handling characteristics at all...

Hmmmm.... I don't think the game is going to be that bad according to the reviews, i will be the judge of Shift when i get off work in a few. Its better than Prostreet, Carbon and Undercover. Remember Shift is still an arcade racer, so if you go into it thinking your going to get a GT5 or Forza experience you will be dissapointed.

The game is getting 8-10 review scores all over the internet, the last NFS game that came remotely close to those scores was Most Wanted and the first Underground.

Also, again to play Devil Advocato - 150 mph or 150 km/h? :D

I haven't played it yet, I am ... anxious to say the least. I adored Gran Turismo, above all others, but I have also enjoyed some of the NFS and Midnight Club titles. I will say, I LOATHED Grid. Everyone else seemed to love it, but I despised it.

One question Hoss - does it have the "Flashback" feature all racing games seem required to have now where you can "rewind" back to a previous point in the race to replay a section?

Why did you hate Grid, curious?
IMO I thought Grid was a solid arcade style racer that focused on many disciplins of racing such as the ALMS, FIA,F1, DMT, JGTC, etc. Graphics was meh , but to me it was a fun game and you got to give a game a few kudos when they have the awesome 787B in it!:naughty:

I haven't played it yet, I am ... anxious to say the least. I adored Gran Turismo, above all others, but I have also enjoyed some of the NFS and Midnight Club titles. I will say, I LOATHED Grid. Everyone else seemed to love it, but I despised it.

One question Hoss - does it have the "Flashback" feature all racing games seem required to have now where you can "rewind" back to a previous point in the race to replay a section?
If it has them, I havent found them yet. FWIW, I love Grid, especially the drifting. I am trying to unlock the drifting on NFS in hopes it will redeem itself, but even then it wouldnt make it worth buying IMO.
Also, again to play Devil Advocato - 150 mph or 150 km/h? :D
Km/h :(

I dont know why it defaulted to that...

This game looked so promising...from what I'm hear it is teh suk...oh well...back to playing undercover on my iPhone

Have you tried Real Racing by Firemint for the Iphone? Check it out, its like a little Gran turismo lite. Its a promising little racer, give it a try.One of the best 6 bucks I spent on the Iphone in a long time.

Also Ferrari Evolution GT is pretty cool, how is Undercover for the Iphone? I want it but i am a little trigger shy to get it because I know how flakey the NFS Underground tuner series is.

I just didn't like it. I thought that the AI was way too violent, the handling was like trying to steer a hummingbird on crack, the damage modeler was hyperactive, and too many of the races just had what amounted to blind corners. I'd wind up blowing all my "flashbacks" (I HATE flashback systems) because the course wasn't clearly defined and I plowed into something at top speed, or because the AI decided to destroy me in that corner no matter what I did.

I also hated the whole beginning premise - run races until you get enough money to start your own team. So you start out driving a different car in every single race, and they're drastically different so you never develop any real comfort with any of them. They even put you in the freaking Koeniggsegg (which was literally impossible to drive before you got used to the way the game handled), and then you start your own team and you get ... a Boss 302. No slouch, but after you just drove a Koeniggsegg?

I think I wanted it to be more like GT than it was, so maybe I didn't give it a fair shake, but I hated it.

Hehe, the mph v. km/h thing always messes me up too. I thought 150 mph in 3rd sounded suspect, but 150 km/h, probably not a stretch.

Typically I don't notice the difference until I have that "I'm going 312 WTF?!?!" moment and freak out and plowing into something down the straightaway.

One other thing I am really not liking about this game...

They tried to make gear changes more realistic by not making them instantaneous. That by itself is fine with me, what isnt fine, is showing "N" for the gear instead of the gear it is going to... Messes me up entering the corners everytime...

oh gaddamn it hoss...you're making me not want to rent the damn game...:banghead:

I haven't played very much, but so far, I certainly don't hate it. I don't like that you can't map the buttons how you want them, but I think it will work out because the shoulder buttons offer you a bit more control over how much gas or brake you're giving it.

My first lap (the "skills test" lap) was pretty poor, as I didn't have any idea what to expect. Driving the M3, it felt really heavy. I managed to slide it out of a turn a few times.

Overall, it feels like the game wants the backend to be a lot looser than I want the backend to be. After a few races, I've managed to reign it in well. I'm not mastering corners, but I am getting around the track just fine. I am sure as I play more I will get the hang of it. I will say, the RX8 is much easier to drive for me than the M3 at this point!

It's a little out of my Gran Turismo comfort zone - I don't feel like I can put the car exactly where I want it, when I want it there, but it's not overwhelming either. I can't give it a number out of 10 yet, as I'm only 30 minutes or so in, but right now I'd say it's worth a Gamefly.

I will say, load times are LONG, and the start race noise is awful. But I'll survive.

nobody liked prostreet? i think it was pretty good.. the game was just too short.
Gonna pick up shift in a few =]

They got the EVO in there they got both the old and the new and they got an STI too?
Whats your bro talking about?

Also i dont know if you can switch the buttons ill check right now.

I some how magically obtained the game...:suspect:... I'm installing it right now. :)

It's actually a pretty cool game. So far, so fun. :)

^give me game...i no end yo lyfe :squint:

hahaha i picked up when i got out of work and bought the rx-8 and it comes in the best color when you buy it WINNING BLUE!!!!! lol. the games is sick

i went to rent it at blockbuster. Sold out. as always. Fuckers

im enjoying it alot so far, gonna stop playing soon though because sons of anarchy is on :)

im enjoying it alot so far, gonna stop playing soon though because sons of anarchy is on :)

w00t w00t, double the post, double the pleasure :D:

LUlZ ^_^my bad

OMG this game looks soooooo bad asssssssssssssss, just got a glimps of it over at the homies house and all i can say is WOW, cant wait till i get my dirty hands on it

hahaha i picked up when i got out of work and bought the rx-8 and it comes in the best color when you buy it WINNING BLUE!!!!! lol. the games is sick

Yeah, they also nailed the interior like spot on. It's pretty cool.

john...gimme game...or i host the video of teh ex run-in :squint:

Bring me a dual layer DVD and you shall get your game. :)

score

Yeah, they also nailed the interior like spot on. It's pretty cool.



i know i was looking at that instead of the game and i kept crashing lol. i just kept watching the speedometer and it shift lol. so realistic

Ok..so I think I'm going to die... First off, Stage one turbo is simply flashing the ECU? A Cold Air Intake on my 8 gives 50hp and 30tq? I can get a stroker kit and put in forged pistons and rods into my 8 for maximum power? Where am I going to put those? For $10k I can also increase my boost pressure... on my N/A car. O.o Who on Earth designed the upgrade garage?

Ok, I need help! I bought the only body kit available (the rest must be unlocked) and I can't seem to paint it, how the hell do I paint my kit?!

BTW: The kit looks like the Burnout kit in the game. :)

Press F2 + ctrl + delete. works 70% of the time 50% of the time!!

:rofl:

This game is pretty fun, I love how detailed the interior of the 8 is. :)

And do he disappears... again.... :icon_no2:

i want it now someone send it to my house for the 360 lol

The physics made all the cars very hard to handle if you have all the assists off.

I'm a stickler for details and as I already mentioned.. there's no difference between the upgrades on cars. I get "Upgraded Pistons and Rods" for my Engine upgrade. I know it's not a huge deal.. but it irks me. Same thing with the outrageous HP gains. For an intake I get 40hp? An ECU flash gains me another 40? O.o I've never been a huge arcade racer fan. Maybe that's my flaw. It's not a bad game, the driver profile thing's pretty cool, I just wish I didn't keep noticing small errors.

I used to be a beta tester for Babel games... I totally blame them for my inability to enjoy games. Haha.

Played a bit more last night, and I'm getting more and more used to the way the game handles. I think I have the "normal" assists on, which definitely helps. I'm not really interested in struggling through the game and I don't take any sort of pride in being great at games, so I'm keeping the settings pretty normal.

I agree Neo that the upgrades are a little ... hinky. But whatever, it's not a big deal to me. Plus, c'mon, who wouldn't want to get 40 hp from an intake? :) I agree it is a bit silly to let you upgrade pistons for the 8, but it IS the only rotary car in the game (and I believe the only production rotary car in the world, right?) so the fact that it's a bit awkward in game is excusable to me.

I'm actually really enjoying the upgrade thing. At first, I was a little bit concerned that I'd be labeled as an "Aggression" driver, as after my first couple races, my Aggression points were way higher. But since then, I've actually become way more "Precision" oriented and my points are about 9k Precision and 4k Aggression now.

Currently driving the 8 with most of the first level upgrades - got $130k in the bank or so which I'll probably use for a Cayman S.

Played a bit more last night, and I'm getting more and more used to the way the game handles. I think I have the "normal" assists on, which definitely helps. I'm not really interested in struggling through the game and I don't take any sort of pride in being great at games, so I'm keeping the settings pretty normal.

I didn't like the "normal" assists because of the auto-braking feature so I am using the "experienced" assists. BTW: The 8 in this game is way too snap happy, the S2000 outperforms it in every aspect. :(

I agree Neo that the upgrades are a little ... hinky. But whatever, it's not a big deal to me. Plus, c'mon, who wouldn't want to get 40 hp from an intake? :) I agree it is a bit silly to let you upgrade pistons for the 8, but it IS the only rotary car in the game (and I believe the only production rotary car in the world, right?) so the fact that it's a bit awkward in game is excusable to me.
I didn't mind at all, the only thing that bugged me a bit was the body kits... They had the MS kit in ProStreet and Undercover. This game has a wannabe Burnout Lip Kit. :(

I'm actually really enjoying the upgrade thing. At first, I was a little bit concerned that I'd be labeled as an "Aggression" driver, as after my first couple races, my Aggression points were way higher. But since then, I've actually become way more "Precision" oriented and my points are about 9k Precision and 4k Aggression now.

Currently driving the 8 with most of the first level upgrades - got $130k in the bank or so which I'll probably use for a Cayman S.

It was the same for me, I had a bunch of Aggression points and then I got used to the game physics and then started to be more precise in the races. My Precision points are 4x higher than my Agressive points.

For the life of me, I just could not get into this game... I tried and tried, and just didnt like the handling, teh physics, the upgrades as others pointed out... It was almost like they took the physics from NFS's past and transplanted them into a serious style racing game. The past NFS's were not the best driving game, but you got to run from cops and shit! One somewhat interesting thing was when you kind of get stunned in a big crash.

I already traded the game in though, for Dirt 2, which is a lot more fun IMO. However, it could more appropriately be named "GRID - Off road".

Hoss, that's exactly how I felt about Grid lol. I REALLY wanted to like it and I just couldn't. I only played the DiRT 2 demo, but I didn't care for it. I disliked the whole X-Games vibe they were going for, and I just didn't like sliding that Eclipse all over creation.

My girlfriend works tonight at the country club, so I will get to spend at least 2 hours with NFS and really get a bit more into it tonight :)

My bro is working on the online content, he just got a job here at EA, they gave him a free copy of the game.. Played it abit last night with him while he took notes. I told him that the RX8 redline is all wrong, they may want to release a patch that lets you rev it to 9250 stock, other than that..

Traction is broken too easily!

I got my RX8 upto 383 RWHP and now I can't stay in a straight line!

I took TCS/DSC/AUTO off so it's a challenge but pretty fun.. Drifting is easy, the interiors are nice, etc.. Going to check it out some more on the weekend I think.

I'm gonna give the game another shot tonight, played a little bit last night and it didn't measure up to forza for me in the fun factor department. Maybe I just got too good, but with the rx8 I was BLOWING by cars in the straights, my corner exit speed skills must be really good! :uhh:

Get a stage 2 turbo, nitrous, stage 2 engine upgrades, stage 1 complete upgrades, thicker tires and weight reduction, then say it's easy ;)

Also, TCS/DSC off!

Heheh yeah assists are off but difficulty is on medium for now. I got the game so I could drive the higher level cars and SPA though, so I'm going to stick with it :)

I'm not going to buy another car until my RX-8 is maxed out..

Very curious how well it will add up, but obviously, in a track based game, it SHOULD be able to reach the top of the line with GT cars..

The good thing is you can sell your cars (and upgrades) for the same you bought them for.. This adds alot of customizability..

The only thing I want to know is if they made the mistake of a title upgrade such as "piston and rods" for an Rx8...:yelrotflm

I thought of getting this game but decided to wait on Forza 3. I got Dirt 2 instead last week and coming from a Dirt racing background love it. If you like drift then get on dirt, you're always sideways. I find myself laughing half the time playing it in multiplayer mode. As competitive as I am I still crack up with the flips I do if I go off the road or making someone else go off the road if they rough ride me, just thinking of it cracks me up. As clean of a slide job I do on people by them I still have them smack the side of my vehicle down the straight so I wait till a rocked ledge comes up on their side and give them a slight tap to just hearing their engine rev out of sight with them honking their horn and watching them fade out of position, never gets old :rofl: There is a lot of contact of course in any racing game for multiplayer and it's a lot harder in this game than street games being on dirt to control your car. At least the damage done doesn't affect your car's performance on multiplayer, hell I won a race looking like a stock car with just the frame, engine, and tires left lol.

The rally cross is a lot of fun once you get the handling down but it takes a lot of finessing with the controls and being smooth with the gas to be fast, doesn't take much to spin out.

Am I the only one liking this game?

^ Yeah it's for no0bs

I was considering Dirt 2, but I only liked the rally stages in Dirt 1, all the other races were bs to me.

The only thing I want to know is if they made the mistake of a title upgrade such as "piston and rods" for an Rx8...:yelrotflm

I thought of getting this game but decided to wait on Forza 3. I got Dirt 2 instead last week and coming from a Dirt racing background love it. If you like drift then get on dirt, you're always sideways. I find myself laughing half the time playing it in multiplayer mode. As competitive as I am I still crack up with the flips I do if I go off the road or making someone else go off the road if they rough ride me, just thinking of it cracks me up. As clean of a slide job I do on people by them I still have them smack the side of my vehicle down the straight so I wait till a rocked ledge comes up on their side and give them a slight tap to just hearing their engine rev out of sight with them honking their horn and watching them fade out of position, never gets old :rofl: There is a lot of contact of course in any racing game for multiplayer and it's a lot harder in this game than street games being on dirt to control your car. At least the damage done doesn't affect your car's performance on multiplayer, hell I won a race looking like a stock car with just the frame, engine, and tires left lol.

The rally cross is a lot of fun once you get the handling down but it takes a lot of finessing with the controls and being smooth with the gas to be fast, doesn't take much to spin out.
This! I am having a blast with Dirt 2, and rally cross is by far my favorite discipline on it.

Before I traded in the NFS game yesterday, I was in a Porsche Cayman S, cant remember what track, but at the end of a LONG straight, going 160 Mph I barreled straight into another car entering into a right hand curve. I "entered" the turn in 8th place, after the dust settled and I righted my car, I was in 5th place :rolleyes: .

Am I the only one liking this game?
It could have been fun for me, but the way the cars handled just killed it for me...

If you slid at all and started to correct in a normal fashion, the car would lose it...

Am I the only one liking this game?

I've liked the couple hours I've played so far. It's far from perfect, but it's better than any other racing game I've played recently.

It does seem like it wants the back end to come loose too much, but I'm learning to keep it reined in. At first, I was sliding all over the place, but as I played more I started to get the hang of it, and now despite having a more powerful car, I'm keeping it cleaner through the turns. I'm still not mastering every corner on my first try, but I've improved greatly in a couple hours.

Is it true you can sell your car back for the same price you bought it for? And you can get money back for upgrades? That would be awesome. The one thing I've always hated about "auto-save" racing games is that it doesn't let you buy a car and take it for a test drive, then reset if you don't like it. As soon as you buy it, the money is gone!

Ok, the game is starting to piss me off... I can't seem to correct the car...

Every time I try to counter an oversteer, I would catch it then it would swing out the other way.

Yes, you can sell all the upgrades for the same price you bought them for. That's how I bought my new M3, lol.

i havnt played it yet but it looks fun.

I haven't yet had any trouble catching the rear end when it starts to slide on me, but I also didn't turn off all the assists, so maybe that's why. That's good news about the upgrades though, now maybe I can test out a few other rides to see what I like. Or, I can sell my 8 upgrades and fleece out my Porsche (if I buy one).

Ok, the game is starting to piss me off... I can't seem to correct the car...

Every time I try to counter an oversteer, I would catch it then it would swing out the other way.
Lol, that sounds about right. It is almost like all the actions are delayed, as soon as you finally get it to correct, it goes the other way, and when you are sideways, it doesnt seem to respond to throttle input in a natural way.

Does this happen to all cars? Maybe it depends on the car or maybe you can tweak the handling to correct this.

I just bought the game, am tired of playing GT5P and this should tie me up until GT5 arrives.

I find it happens on the RX8.. Seems the steering is delayed, kind of, agree :)

I still want to play it more though.. I like it.

I already gave up on the game, lol.

I'm using the 8 and i have the same problems. I countersteer, and it seems to do nothing, then suddenly it whips out the other way. It's irritating. As for the points, it's the same way with me, I started WAY ahead in aggression, then as I go along I gain more and more precision, but the game just refuses to grow on me. Damn. :(

I have found the first thing about this game that I absolutely HATE. One of my goals in an event is "Spin out 4 opponents". Seems asinine for a "sim" game to have this as a goal. Reward blatantly shitty aggressive driving?

I can always skip the goal, but the fact that it's there really irks me.

Yeah I think I'm just going to trade this in at gamestop for a downpayment on special edish Forza 3 preorder.

You guys are nuts :P sure this game has its flaws but its gonna do exactly what i want it to... hold me over until new ones come out.

Hey, to each his own. We're sold out. :P I just didn't personally like it. The spinout thing irritated me too. One less star for you if you want to be a precision driver. ><

The more I have played, the more into it I have gotten. It is definitely not a replacement for Forza/Gran Turismo, but it's got quite a few things to like (and to be fair, quite a few to hate). Basically, it just took me a little while to find a groove - I'm still not perfectly comfortable with the handling mechanics and such, but I've improved a lot. Yesterday on the Cobalt SS hot lap event, I mastered all 5 corners on the first lap, and it felt pretty good.

I like the variety of events (except drifting, Lord do I hate drifting events) and I'm actually surprised by how much fun some of them have been. The "Car Battle" events have been cooler than I thought. I also like the way you earn points for different items (though, I am still peeved about the "4 spinout" goal), because it gives you a little bit more to shoot for. And I really like the way you can sell back your car and upgrades for the purchase price. It's kind of silly, really, but because of the AutoSave feature, it's a great way to prevent you from having buyer's remorse. I mean, imagine you bought a new Porsche and all the upgrades, then found that you didn't like the way the car handled and you could only get 1/4 of your money back. That'd suck.

Now that I've put in more time and adjusted to how the game plays (learning there's throttle positions besides 100% and full brake was a tremendous breakthrough for me), I'm really starting to enjoy it. You just gotta get past the GT/Forza comparisons first!

I'm still not use to the dynamics of the game, I can't seem to get the car to drive the way I want it to. :(

If your car breaks out into oversteer try and feather gas(tap the button repeatedly) to correct it.

I doesn't really help when I only have the option of either 100% throttle or 0% throttle... I need to get myself a gamepad for my PC.

:rant::rant::rant::rant::rant:

Nothing like forza of course, haha.... Its like the car won't even stay straight, I tried tuning everything and after every race I would tune but nothing would help, Its not that easy to get back on the track lmao. Understeer is a bitch.

:yelrotflm

I doesn't really help when I only have the option of either 100% throttle or 0% throttle... I need to get myself a gamepad for my PC.


Or just get this... :)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826280012&cm_re=wheels_and_pedals-_-26-280-012-_-Product

I doesn't really help when I only have the option of either 100% throttle or 0% throttle... I need to get myself a gamepad for my PC.

That's one of the reasons I am glad I've gotten used to using the PS3 controller trigger buttons for gas and brake - I feel like it's a lot easier to find the middle ground with them than with the X/O buttons.

Getting back on the track IS a total pain. But I guess it makes sense you actually need to slow down in order to do it. I just wish the AI wasn't quite so eager to push me off the track.

Getting back on the track IS a total pain. But I guess it makes sense you actually need to slow down in order to do it. I just wish the AI wasn't quite so eager to push me off the track.[/quote]

LOL, I swear this game is not as easy as I thought it would be. I do have the settings on hard which almost seems impossible to win but some how end up coming in first place at the last second.:scratchhe

Sold my modded RX8 for 97,000 and bought a new STI + upgrades.

This thing handles WAY better than the 8 (oddly enough), and AWD = less rear kickout and more realistic. Now I just need NOS!

Hate the "out of focus" effect on the dash when you go 90+, I mean WTF? Hope they later let you turn it off with an update, games is pretty unrealistic as it is.

Played for a while and got to Tier 2 and enough cash to get a cayman. Not impressed with the controls or the physics at this point, maybe when I play some more I'll adapt.

GT5 can't come soon enough.

i really don't like this game... another NFS failure... yes it might be a big improvement from earlier NFS games, but this is just way out of league comparing forza 3 and gt 5

My bro says that the guys at EA bash Forza/GT all day, they say the cars feel too "heavy/slow".

I say they feel realistic..

Still not a terrible game though.. I'll play it for an hour or so tonight maybe..

My bro says that the guys at EA bash Forza/GT all day, they say the cars feel too "heavy/slow".

I say they feel realistic..

Still not a terrible game though.. I'll play it for an hour or so tonight maybe..
LOL, yeah if "heavy" and "slow" really mean "realistic" and "life-like"

The physics on NFS are so far off base it killed the game... Cant make a serious racing sim with cartoon physics.

I finally played my copy of NFS SHIFT last night, so far i am on the Tier 1 level of racing. My car of choice was the Miata. Then I got a RX-8. First off NFS is not a bad game, its not a great game either but it works. I started with medium A.I and I am playing it on normal mode, it suggested i play it on easy because the first test race i goofed twice and went off the track because i wasn't use to the controls.

Well I got use to the controls and racing is a snap now, I been geting precision points from the start! At first using the Miata seemed not right, it seem to front heavy and not balance, so i dialed in my Miata to have a little oversteer since i like to steer with the throttle in the corners. Much better!!!!.... threw some sticky tires and brakes and dialed the car for mild oversteer, driving the Miata now seemed rewarding.

The RX-8 i did the same treatment , but I think i dialed it in for too much oversteer so i slid the bar as close to the balance side but still have mild oversteer to clean up the looseness i was getting from the RX-8. That seemed to help....

My gripe with the RX-8 is that NFS messed up, it redlines in the 8,000 rpm zone, ehhhhhhh wrong EA! And it sounds nothing like a RX-8, so that was a little dissapointing when driving her. GT5 had the RX-8 perfect!

Shift is a good racer , i say for those of you having trouble try and dialing in your car , with upgrades and tunes. And try steering with the throttle, if the car your using starts to oversteer, try and feather the gas but never let off totally which will cause your car to snap oversteer. I will say EA did get that correct , several times i would enter the corner to hot with the Miata and Rx-8 and induce oversteer, i featherd the gas and was able to drift out of the corner untouched or off the track.

I set up my cars with more pressure on the front brakes and set my FF/FR cars with mild oversteer. I set up my MR with the same on my brakes but i set it up for mild understeer since most of the weight is in the back and going around corner to fast could result in oversteer.

Graphics are better than any NFS title out there but EA needs to crank the graphics out like GT5. After all we are in a HD erra.

Here are some pics of me representing the Mazda race family!;)

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u256/silverbullet07/NFS-SHift/Shift_Miata_fastturn.jpg

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http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u256/silverbullet07/NFS-SHift/Shift_Miata_leading.jpg

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u256/silverbullet07/NFS-SHift/Shift_Miatainpack.jpg

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u256/silverbullet07/NFS-SHift/Shift_RX8.jpg

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nice write up. hey daily question, Btw, I know in GT series, if you press the brake to hard before heading into a turn , the weight shoots to front and launches you off the track. So pumping the brake while down shifting , gets rid of that launch you into the grass feel. So my question is, does this game have the same phyics?

nice write up. hey daily question, Btw, I know in GT series, if you press the brake to hard before heading into a turn , the weight shoots to front and launches you off the track. So pumping the brake while down shifting , gets rid of that launch you into the grass feel. So my question is, does this game have the same phyics?

Yes it does , you'll find that the physics are very similiar to GT. I was entering a corner to hot in the Miata on the first track , I locked up the brakes and off i went into the grass. The same corner again on the second lap , this time i pumped the brakes a little and gave it gas and executed the turn fine. So its pretty realistic.

Check out Arnolds review from PSX extreme, sorry i gave you the wrong name before.

More Game Info (Print This Article)

Graphics:
9.0
Gameplay:
8.5
Sound:
9.5
Control:
8.0
Replay Value:
9.0
Online Gameplay:
8.5
Overall Rating: 8.8


Publisher:
Electronic Arts
Developer:
Slightly Mad Studios
Number Of Players:
1 (2-8 Online)
Genre:
Genre
Release Date:
September 15, 2009
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The last time a Need for Speed game aimed at realism, as partial as it was, was with Pro Street. And while it wasn't quite the blockbuster EA hoped for it to be, it was a fairly fun game in its own right. For the next iteration, NFS returned to the open world theme with Underground, which, at first was terribly flawed by a framerate that would later get patched and fixed. Now, during the course of the last two years, EA was cooking up an all new Need for Speed game unlike anything we've ever seen from the franchise. And it wasn't Black Box who was in complete control, but rather a group of guys who were responsible for the PC's best sim racer: GTR2. A team formerly of SimBin Studios and Blimey! Games, both parties responsible for GTR2, Slightly Mad Studios houses an incredibly talented bunch, and despite being their first console title, it shows.

Need for Speed: SHIFT has been touted as a very serious sim racer, and throughout the months, I have confirmed as much. I've played Need for Speed: SHIFT in the past before, and I have praised the game numerous times for its nearly superb mixture of realism, while at the same time maintaining the excitement the series has always been known for. But, unfortunately, there are a number of problems with the game I'd like to discuss, as well. First, the good stuff...

For starters, SHIFT supports Logitech wheels and has full support of the G25's clutch and shifter setup. Within the game are a plethora of tuning options for the wheel, so that you can customize its feel, various sensitivity settings, and feedback to your liking. More over, there is even G27 support here for you future owners wondering if the game is compatible with Logitech's all new and improved setup.

Now, the Career mode in this game works fairly simple. You are a racer looking to make a name for yourself in the professional circuit. As always, you have a few people helping you out with some tips here and there, but for the most part, you're on your own. You'll earn money, points, and badges for your racing. The points are there to improve your level, and with every level up, there are rewards to be had, sometimes money, sometimes cars, sometimes unlocking upgrades, and so forth. Progression is very easy, as all of your events are laid out for you and are broken up by tiers. You'll have to progress through a certain amount of Tier 1 before you can move on to Tier 2, and so on.

Just like most racers, you'll start off with a certain amount of money, and the first car you purchase won't be anything special, but it'll do to get you your first winnings. You'll eventually need to upgrade the car, and the list of main upgrades is broken up into three stages, which you'll unlock the more you play through the game. Upgrades within the three stages are: drivetrain, turbo, suspension, tires, brakes, and engine. Upgrades beyond the three stages include body kits, cockpit upgrades, weight reduction, nitrous kids, race exhausts, shorter final drive, wider tire upgrade, rollcage, and a brake master cylinder upgrade. When you've purchase things such as suspension/handling components, you can enter the game's tuning screen and play around with the settings of your car, which includes: toe angle, camber, ride height, sway bars, spring rates, bump stop length, damper slow bump, damper slow rebound, damper fast rebound, front/rear downforce, brake balance, steering lock, and even tire-pressure. Then, you get into the transmission upgrades, which starts off with just being able to tweak the final drive, but with later upgrades allows you to fine tune every available gear of your car. Lastly, differentials can be toyed around with sliders that include: limited slip acceleration lock, limited slip deceleration lock, limited slip preload, and "visco" electronic lock (I can only assume the game means viscous, not visco).

The game tracks your driving performance by measuring your style of racing using two characteristic traits: aggression and precision. Based on your driving style, the game will reward you points for both traits, and depending on your habits, you'll earn more points for one trait, as opposed to another. This system will also automatically work online as it will matchmake and drop you into a group of racers most closely related to your driving. Of course, if you don't wish to partake in the matchmaking, you don't have to, it's purely optional.

Now, SHIFT is an extremely exciting game, but it does have a number of shortcomings that I was really disappointed to see. These shortcomings are both gameplay and presentation related. For starters, many will notice that the game physics are way too prone to oversteering, even with FWD and AWD cars. No matter how much I tuned for stability and toyed around with the game's control sensitivities, driving still felt incredibly twitchy with cars that were extremely modified. I found myself tweaking the settings around for way too long, until I felt like I found something acceptable, but I should never have had to sit there and torture myself not through just trial-and-error, but also through the constant load times.

Slightly Mad should've implemented not just free control over the sensitivity settings, but also designated pre-sets that when enabled would automatically tune the controls to a certain feel: planted, loose, or something in between. Another issue is that there is also no in-between with the physics settings themselves, you're either totally nannied by the assists, or you're slipping and sliding all over the place - I'd have like to see a mixture of arcade/sim mechanics, sort of along the lines of Project Gotham Racing. Is the game still playable? Of course it is, but you will endure quite a bit of frustration, especially in the Career races where you may find yourself twitch and lose control of the car, losing pole position at the last minute and having to restart or settle for a lesser standing. It also doesn't help that even on Medium, the A.I. is very tough, which will require you to dial back to Easy for certain races just so you can get past them. Most of the races can be won on Medium no problem, but I've hit a few figurative brickwalls in the game where I just couldn't get past a race or two and had to tone the A.I. down.

Now, when you feel like you're being outclassed and you don't have the money to purchase more upgrades, the game actually has an exploit that'll earn you $4000 in about 45 seconds of time. Simply by entering Quick Race mode, choosing Drift, setting it to one lap, no opponents, and the tiniest stage, you will, by default always be the winner. That will earn you $4000, in addition to points to add to your driver level. Drift sessions consist of three rounds, which is why the total adds up to 45 seconds, and not 15. You can do this with other race modes, such as time trial, but drifting is the quickest. On the subject of the game's drift mode...I must reluctantly say that it isn't very good. When in the mode, cars are automatically re-tuned by the game to deliver an insane amount of oversteer, so much so that even accelerating on a straight will cause the car to wildly spin out of control. Every corner you take in the mode almost always ends up in you smashing a wall with your nose or just losing control. I went on the game's Figure Eight course, set it to 20 laps, and still couldn't get the awkward drift mechanics of the game down. And apparently, I'm not the only one. Thankfully, drifts don't play a very crucial part of the career.

And here's the last negative I'll mention, which doesn't affect gameplay, but rather the presentation. I don't know who was in charge of adding the specs for the cars, but whoever it was did an awful job at it. Cars all over the game are listed with the wrong weights, horsepower, and torque figures. And I'm not talking about being off a smidge here and there, it'll range from hundreds of pounds in weight, as well as horsepower and torque numbers that are just really, really wrong. Now, bear with me here, because I'm going to go into some details that some of you will appreciate it and others won't. Why am I doing this? Because this is supposed to be a car sim, and these oversights are downright odd and upsetting to someone like me.

*The 350Z in the game is a 2006 model, but has the stats of a 2007-2008 car (which had a newer/different engine). Because it's a 2006, it's supposed to have 300HP and 260lbs of TQ, not 306HP/268TQ. If it's meant to be a 2007-2008 model, then it's supposed to have a different hood design and a redline of 7500RPM to reflect that. On top of that, despite using a 2006 350Z, the interior is from the older 2003-2005 car with an automatic transmission, which were notably different in certain ways. I don't understand who, if anyone, was in charge of consistency and fact checking, they literally crammed a whole bunch of wrong elements into one car.

*The Infiniti G35 Coupe also has the wrong stats and model, none of the 1st generation G35 Coupes (especially the 2003-2005 models) made over 300HP. Only the 2006 6-speed came with 293HP. The game has the car listed at 303HP (which no G35/G37 ever had, so I don't know where they got this number). On top of that, the game model is that of a 2003-05 model (different headlights and taillights), which has 280HP and 270lbs of TQ in real life.

*The Corvette Z06 has its numbers listed backwards, it seems. The car has 505HP and 475lbs of TQ - the game has it written the other way around.

*The Dodge Viper SRT10 has the wrong Torque number: it's supposed to be 560lbs of TQ, the game says 640lbs.

*2006-2009 B7 Audi S4. The in-game specs say 329HP, 325TQ, and 3990lbs. Well, the actual specs are: 340HP, 302TQ, and 3800lbs. The specs NFS uses are from the all new, completely different 2010 S4 which is actually a supercharged V6, and not a V8 anymore.

*Ford Escort RS Cosworth. The in-game specs say: 220HP and 259.95TQ (what's with the decimals?). The actual specs are: 227HP and 225TQ.

*Ford Focus ST. The game in-specs are identical to the Escort (including the decimal and all). They're two completely different engines, the Focus uses Volvo's turbocharged T5, which makes 227HP and 236TQ.

*Honda S2000. This one I found quite laughable because everyone knows the one thing the S2000 is not known for is torque. So the in-game specs here are: 247HP and 232.27TQ (again, what's up with that decimal?). Real specs range from 237HP to 250HP, so I'll let the HP number slide. But the torque is only rated at 153lbs for the actual car.

*Toyota Corolla GTS AE86: In-game specs are 128HP and 386.83TQ!! Holy crap! The horsepower is correct, but the actual torque number is supposed to be a measly 103lbs.

And you know what? There's more of these errors with other cars, but I simply didn't have the time to sit there and wade through anymore of them. So I ask again, who was in charge of this? And can we please have this patched up? It's disheartening that such a solid simulator has such awkward and glaring (to me) flaws. I've already brought it up to EA, and they're aware, but I want to make sure they're aware enough to patch this. As it stands now, my offer is this: fix the errors and this review gets edited, and the score gets bumped up a bit to a solid 9.

So, back to the good stuff. The tracks are a mixture of real-life circuits with made-up ones that take place in actual locations such as London, Nurburgring, Spa GP, Laguna Seca, and so forth. In total, 18 locations exist, with over 50 different track layouts. The track design is practically perfect from what I gather, as every legitimate track is recreated with precision, and even the fictional stuff is a blast to drive on. In total, a selection of 80 vehicles will be made present, and there are more on the way as downloadable content, in addition to even more tracks via DLC.

Now, despite the shortcomings I've mentioned before, this all new NFS is still a very good sim and developed by one of the leading developers of racing-sims, you'd better believe that SHIFT boasts an amazing physics engine. You get into a car like the Audi RS4 and you immediately feel the inherent advantage of having an AWD system like QUATTRO giving you all of the grip and traction you need in order to stay on course. But the second you move to a rear or mid-engined supercar like the 911 GT2 or the Zonda, all hell breaks loose (as do your tires upon every sweeping turn). Heck, even when you step foot into a car where the engine is front-mounted (Z06), you immediately feel the difference in balance and weight distribution. Each and every car feels like its got a personality of its own, and that really helps keep SHIFT away from the GRID comparisons many are throwing around out there. But again, don't forget, in order to keep the cars manageable, you will need to spend a lot of time with the settings.

Moving on, we get to the visuals. For the first time in a very, very long time, I do not have complaints about the framerate. Where as in the past NFS games, even on the PS2, the framerate stuttered and barely ran to spec, SHIFT has a framerate that's super tight, moving at a crisp 30 frames per second with barely a frame drop in sight, no matter how crazy things get. There is the occasional hitch here and there, but they're very few and far in between, from my experience - so no points were docked for that. The overall quality of the visuals is absolutely astounding though, as the game's texture work is every bit as brilliant as it looks in the screenshots. The cars are very detailed, and so are the interiors, even though some cars are using the wrong interiors that aren't in conjunction with their model year, but it's minor stuff that only the hardcore like me would notice. There's no doubt about it, but this is one gorgeous game, surely the best for the franchise.

Additionally, there are some neat visual touches such as the motion blur, and the crashing which causes disorientation if severe enough. When playing the game using the in-dash view, your camera is essentially the eyes of the driver, and with every slam of the brakes, every burst of throttle, every nudge and crash, the camera will jolt forwards, backwards, and side-to-side - it's a very cool effect and extremely immersive to the overall experience. The only thing I would like to see improved is the lighting, because while it's great most of the time, chrome pieces such as headlights reflect very awkwardly. And perhaps bringing back the crazy tire smoke from Pro Street would be nice.

Further solidifying the visceral experience of SHIFT is the equally visceral audio that roars through the speakers. Honestly, a lot is lost in the enjoyment of the game if you're playing this on a puny audio setup, either get a 5.1 setup or something capable of 5.1 sound (I recommend the Sony HT-CT100 Soundbar w/Sub, it's amazing). You simply have to hear the roar of these cars, even when they're stock it all just sounds fantastic. The game even does you a favor and by default turns off the music for the races. I'd talk about the soundtrack, but I paid no attention to it, and neither will you. I still do wish to see custom soundtracks out of an EA game, though.

All in all, despite some awkward design choices, Need for Speed: SHIFT is still a fantastic racing game, and once you figure out your preferred sensitivity settings, everything just clicks and you'll find yourself going from one race to the next, onto the other, and before you know it...it's 4AM. Yes, I speak from experience, that is precisely what happened last night as I was writing this review, intending to have it up last night and not today. It's an addictive game, and money isn't very scarce, so you'll be able to dive right into the upgrades as soon as they become available to you. Visually, it's a great looking game with a solid framerate, with audio that'll shake your entire living room. I just wish we get a patch that fixes all of the factual errors in the game so I can boost the score to a 9...make it happen, EA. You patched Undercover for a shoddy framerate, so surely this is much, much more simple task. In any case, fans of sims, you need to buy this.

Yes it does , you'll find that the physics are very similiar to GT. I was entering a corner to hot in the Miata on the first track , I locked up the brakes and off i went into the grass. The same corner again on the second lap , this time i pumped the brakes a little and gave it gas and executed the turn fine. So its pretty realistic.

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sweet, that is one thing i really like gt5p. glad they also went with that physics also. i know that lots of ppl hate it, but i guess they are just use to arcade racers.

sweet, that is one thing i really like gt5p. glad they also went with that physics also. i know that lots of ppl hate it, but i guess they are just use to arcade racers.

Yeah Sim Bin or Simply mad studios probably added a semi real physics engine to the game , if it was left up to EA to create this game , they would have left the physics part out or gave us water down physics which would allow you to let up off the gas and fly into the corner and go through the corner without any spins outs like GRID! lol!

Yeah GT's physics were spot on , it still trips me out till this day how each and every car in that game drives like its real counterparts or very close to them.

Friend of mine showed this to me on his PS3 tonight. They really didn't do a good job on the Renesis engine sound. Oh well

ok...ima swing by and rent this today for the 360

Friend of mine showed this to me on his PS3 tonight. They really didn't do a good job on the Renesis engine sound. Oh well


Yea it's crap. They also make you buy upgrades for your pistons and shit on both the RX7 and RX8.

You can't choose supercharging or turbocharging either, you just buy a "turbo kit" and it decides whether it's turbo'ed or super'ed.

Kinda lame.. however the handling is fairly accurate for the RX8, though only after upgrading it and tweaking the tuning for it. Apparently the Scion Tc gets a better handling score than the RX8 in the game.. go figure.

i tried out the pc version. it takes too long to load between races. also my 1080p 52" display might be too high resolution for my video card, it's choppy to play.

i deleted it.

lol your computer fails!

Yeah im setting it right now, wtv, it's so easy to download these days. But I have a shit IGP. ATI HD3200 is poop, but wtv it's one of the best in the world for integrated graphics.

ok the only good need for speed Game was hot pursuit back in PSone. They were never able to create another fun game. Man I love chasing down my friends in that m5 cop car.

just got it...crackin' it in...

ok huge failure...

the controls...up gear and down gear on the 360 blows complete ass.

i think you can change controls cant you?

LOL, yeah if "heavy" and "slow" really mean "realistic" and "life-like"

The physics on NFS are so far off base it killed the game... Cant make a serious racing sim with cartoon physics.

+1 the "slow" and "heavy" feeling in GT5p is what makes it real and is what really challenges the drivers (yours) skillz ... Anybody who has played GT5p and passed all the classes knows this. :) GT5p for the WIN, and all these games (racing in general) only have a limited time before GT5p comes out for the PS3 platform and PAWNS their asses.... K THANX BAINOW

Playing with keyboard works "OK" for normal races.. can be annoying, but for drift course.. forget about it. It's utterly useless and the most uncontrollable thing ever.

Meh.

Some more pics from my race career and what i think so far since I am further in the game . So far I am on Tier 2 and have racked up a bunch of precision points, up to level 11. My Rx-8 has 411 HP , is turboed, kitted with a Tier 2 race body kit,19" touring rims, roll cage, body/frame upgrades, etc and tracks alright at this moment , I noticed unfortunately that the more you modify your car , the more unsettled it becomes. I modified the tier 2 level of suspension to the best of my ability and the car is still a little unsettling coming out of corners. I went back to my GT Prolouge setting that made my 400+ HP RX-8 handle like a dream in that game, for some reason its not having the same effect in SHIFT, lol.:dunno:

I wish the game would allow you full acess to all the suspension tuning , but unless your in Tier 3 the major suspension upgrades to tone down the unsettling behavior won't be available to you. I tried usuing other cars in my garage, and they all are prone to this behavior. Even with full down force , less pressure in the rear tires the RX-8 tracks unstable, put all the setting back to defualt, and handeling is worse.... I read other reviews that it just not me , but the cars are very twitchy in the game, smooth steering and delicate throttle control is the only way to get around the track, I hope EA fixes this.

Here are some pics from the Invite races that I participated in.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u256/silverbullet07/NFS-SHift/Shift_ELISE.jpg

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u256/silverbullet07/NFS-SHift/Shift_ELISE2.jpg

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u256/silverbullet07/NFS-SHift/Shift_ELISE3.jpg

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u256/silverbullet07/NFS-SHift/Shift_S2000.jpg


More pics of my Rx-8 race car to come shortly. :naughty:

I haven't really done any tuning to my cars - I've found it's easier for me to adjust how I play to the way the car behaves, instead of the other way around. I may try locking the diff up to try to plant the rear end just a little bit more, but other than that, I don't try to tune my cars too much.

I am up to Level 17 or 18, with probably 3x as many precision points. I've been working my way through all of the Tier 2 events, even though Tier 4 is already open to me. I just put together a fully upgraded Lotus, including the Works conversion, and it's insane. I have been blowing away the competition in it, but it's really hard to drive. It's like trying to control a highly caffeinated squirrel (that forgot to take his ritalin). But if I manage to keep it under control, it flies.

+1 the "slow" and "heavy" feeling in GT5p is what makes it real and is what really challenges the drivers (yours) skillz ... Anybody who has played GT5p and passed all the classes knows this. :) GT5p for the WIN, and all these games (racing in general) only have a limited time before GT5p comes out for the PS3 platform and PAWNS their asses.... K THANX BAINOW
I dont think they are too scared, Sony has been threatening the release of GT5 for 2+ years now and it still hasnt hit yet...

If GT5 ever releases it will be up against a tough competitor, Forza3.

I wasn't impressed with GT4 and thought the prior versions were better. Just the way it was set up turned me off. I traded it in a few weeks ago after sitting in my collection with dust on it for years. Sometimes the originals are just hard to beat.

I wasn't impressed with GT4 and thought the prior versions were better. Just the way it was set up turned me off. I traded it in a few weeks ago after sitting in my collection with dust on it for years. Sometimes the originals are just hard to beat.
I never got into GT4 either, but after playing GT5p I think they worked everything in much better.

I dunno Hoss, GT5 Prologue, which was nothing more than a glorified demo (at a high price of $40), sold 4 million copies. To date, the Gran Turismo series has moved more than 50M units. That's 50,000,000 copies! It's a juggernaut, to say the least. I suspect that even despite a smaller install base, GT5 is going to have some pretty incredible sales numbers. It will be a system seller too, especially with the recent price cut.

Oh yeah, dont get me wrong. I will be buying a copy of GT5 as soon as it comes out, it is the only reason I even got my PS3 lol. I am one of those people who has been waiting and waiting for its release, and has gotten upset at their reluctancy to release it. With as many times as they have delayed the game, it better be pretty damn stellar...

I was just saying that it has some stiff competition with the Forza series, and it wont wipe the other racing games off completely.

I didn't buy the PS3 although I own a PS2 mainly because of well, pricing and the titles. Xbox just overall has IMO a better gaming selection. The only games I would care to have PS3 for would be Metal Gear, God of War, and GT5 if I got it. I don't care if a game sells the most or the least, if the gameplay kicks ass I'm in. Xbox I know will have at least a few that I will liken to in the racing genre which I usually don't buy much of even though I used to race myself. Just more of a FPS player. So far Dirt 2 is one I'm enjoying and hope Forza will fill my street car void. I haven't played any of the previous versions of either.

I didn't buy the PS3 although I own a PS2 mainly because of well, pricing and the titles. Xbox just overall has IMO a better gaming selection. The only games I would care to have PS3 for would be Metal Gear, God of War, and GT5 if I got it. I don't care if a game sells the most or the least, if the gameplay kicks ass I'm in. Xbox I know will have at least a few that I will liken to in the racing genre which I usually don't buy much of even though I used to race myself. Just more of a FPS player. So far Dirt 2 is one I'm enjoying and hope Forza will fill my street car void. I haven't played any of the previous versions of either.

The PS3 has a major plus that the 360 does not: it is one of the more affordable, and best for the price, blu ray machines.

The PS3 has a major plus that the 360 does not: it is one of the more affordable, and best for the price, blu ray machines.

While that is true for blu-ray, I don't trust using a platform that splits between gaming and movie use in regards to using the same drive. I guess I have some skeptic concept that it will degrade the life of one or the other using the same drive for running both and would prefer having separate systems for both which I do currently. I will say at least the PS3 online is free contrast to Xbox live, but it hasn't reached the type of community or performance potential to that of Xbox so I've heard. All comes down to whatever fits your needs the most.

I haven't really done any tuning to my cars - I've found it's easier for me to adjust how I play to the way the car behaves, instead of the other way around. I may try locking the diff up to try to plant the rear end just a little bit more, but other than that, I don't try to tune my cars too much.

I am up to Level 17 or 18, with probably 3x as many precision points. I've been working my way through all of the Tier 2 events, even though Tier 4 is already open to me. I just put together a fully upgraded Lotus, including the Works conversion, and it's insane. I have been blowing away the competition in it, but it's really hard to drive. It's like trying to control a highly caffeinated squirrel (that forgot to take his ritalin). But if I manage to keep it under control, it flies.

Tuned or left alone when you start getting past 350 HP + the cars tend to get very twitchy. I changed my driving style too because of it. The cars want to dance left to right on the straits and nailing the gas out of the corner which is the proper technique causes the back end to start to dance. Even slighty giving the car gas, the back end wants to wiggle a bit.

So far my best setting on my Rx-8 is to have the front sway bar and front springs set to 1 level to soft(1 tick to the left of default), I kept the rear sway and springs to the default setting. I lowered the front tire pressure to 32 and kept the rear at 30. My ride height is at the default. My toe for the front and back is set to neutral because of the balance nature of the Rx-8. My final gear is set at 5.98, down force for the front is det at default and my rear is set for 1 click towards the cornering option. The car is raceable but its nowhere near its optimum spec like I have my RX-8 set in GT. That car is a corner carving KING!:bowdown:

I just wish the camber,rebound,bound settings were available in teir 2, a 400HP Rx-8 really needs these settings inorder to be dominant on the track. I may need to do some more invite races to unlock Tier 3 upgrades.

While that is true for blu-ray, I don't trust using a platform that splits between gaming and movie use in regards to using the same drive. I guess I have some skeptic concept that it will degrade the life of one or the other using the same drive for running both and would prefer having separate systems for both which I do currently. I will say at least the PS3 online is free contrast to Xbox live, but it hasn't reached the type of community or performance potential to that of Xbox so I've heard. All comes down to whatever fits your needs the most.


PS3 does not play games directly off of the Disc. It caches game content to the hdd when it loads. Thats the main difference between playing a game and watching a movie. Watching a movie, it always reads the disc. The life span of the Blu-Ray Drives in the PS3 for someone who watches movies moderatley is about 2 years. That being said, the Xbox360 has a 50% console failure rating and the common issue of ringing your games making them unusable. Besides, you can use netflix to watch movies on your PS3. No need to kill the drive.

While that is true for blu-ray, I don't trust using a platform that splits between gaming and movie use in regards to using the same drive. I guess I have some skeptic concept that it will degrade the life of one or the other using the same drive for running both and would prefer having separate systems for both which I do currently. I will say at least the PS3 online is free contrast to Xbox live, but it hasn't reached the type of community or performance potential to that of Xbox so I've heard. All comes down to whatever fits your needs the most.

Considering the failure rate of the PS3 compared to that of the 360, I'd say it clearly hasn't hurt the PS3 too much.

Personally, I think Blu-Ray is a bit of a rip-off most of the time. I've only ever bought two movies in Blu-Ray and until they are no longer 2x the price of the DVD counterpart, I'll continue that trend.

And yeah, Forza is going to be stiff competition for GT5, but since both Forza and GT are platform exclusive, I don't think they'll butt heads as much as they otherwise would.

PC > Everything

That is all.

PC > Everything

That is all.


I agree +1

Some more pics from my race career and what i think so far since I am further in the game . So far I am on Tier 2 and have racked up a bunch of precision points, up to level 11. My Rx-8 has 411 HP , is turboed, kitted with a Tier 2 race body kit,19" touring rims, roll cage, body/frame upgrades, etc and tracks alright at this moment , I noticed unfortunately that the more you modify your car , the more unsettled it becomes. I modified the tier 2 level of suspension to the best of my ability and the car is still a little unsettling coming out of corners. I went back to my GT Prolouge setting that made my 400+ HP RX-8 handle like a dream in that game, for some reason its not having the same effect in SHIFT, lol.:dunno:

I wish the game would allow you full acess to all the suspension tuning , but unless your in Tier 3 the major suspension upgrades to tone down the unsettling behavior won't be available to you. I tried usuing other cars in my garage, and they all are prone to this behavior. Even with full down force , less pressure in the rear tires the RX-8 tracks unstable, put all the setting back to defualt, and handeling is worse.... I read other reviews that it just not me , but the cars are very twitchy in the game, smooth steering and delicate throttle control is the only way to get around the track, I hope EA fixes this.

More pics of my Rx-8 race car to come shortly. :naughty:

Thank gawd someone feels the same way - i've been playing the game for two days now and i'm at a full tier 2 and my major complaint is the handling - very very twitchy coming out of the corners - even when i toned down the engine mods and upp'd the suspension mods the car still didn't respond very smoothly - same with other cars as well - it has to be my biggest complaint thus far. I haven't reached tier 3 suspension mods but that's kind of a let down that i have to reach that tier before i can really mess with the suspension.

I haven't really played on the drift courses yet but IMHO this game is a 6.5. It's definitely flashy, very pretty to watch but the controls/handling really bug me and the personalization of the car isn't there like the previous ones (i can't really mess with the rims which sucks because i'm infatuated with wheels:banghead:) I hope the drifting events save this game.

I have shift on PC. If anyone wants to race online let me know!!

Thank gawd someone feels the same way - i've been playing the game for two days now and i'm at a full tier 2 and my major complaint is the handling - very very twitchy coming out of the corners - even when i toned down the engine mods and upp'd the suspension mods the car still didn't respond very smoothly - same with other cars as well - it has to be my biggest complaint thus far. I haven't reached tier 3 suspension mods but that's kind of a let down that i have to reach that tier before i can really mess with the suspension.

I haven't really played on the drift courses yet but IMHO this game is a 6.5. It's definitely flashy, very pretty to watch but the controls/handling really bug me and the personalization of the car isn't there like the previous ones (i can't really mess with the rims which sucks because i'm infatuated with wheels:banghead:) I hope the drifting events save this game.


Just wait till you hit tier3, and then the "Works edition".. if I go on the grass/dirt by accident, the car just flies into the air.. and coming out of corners that bend up/down slightly send me flying sideways with no contact to the ground.

It's ridiculous, drifting also sends me flying sideways with 0 grip, barely any skidding, it's like the car suddenly just goes into hover mode, bleh.

I gave up on the drift races, they're just impossible with the keyboard.

I'll post screenies later

^Are you serious? It already pisses me off that hitting any where off the course is pretty much remedied by doing the classic 'press start, restar race' manuver :banghead:

^Are you serious? It already pisses me off that hitting any where off the course is pretty much remedied by doing the classic 'press start, restar race' manuver :banghead:


Oh you think that's bad? LOL!

Ok, picture this..

Long straightway, you're catching up to people, you're flooring it, 163mph, redline in 6th... catching up, you try to overtake someone but cuz the handling is so retarded, you bump against the guy you're overtaking, the rear spins out, you slide sideways spinning madly into the grass.. you hit the grass, car goes 15ft into the air and starts rolling... you can't hit RESET until you slow down to 10mph or come to a complete stop.

Yes, it has happened. Yes, I quit the game furiously. :banghead:

Oh you think that's bad? LOL!

Ok, picture this..

Long straightway, you're catching up to people, you're flooring it, 163mph, redline in 6th... catching up, you try to overtake someone but cuz the handling is so retarded, you bump against the guy you're overtaking, the rear spins out, you slide sideways spinning madly into the grass.. you hit the grass, car goes 15ft into the air and starts rolling... you can't hit RESET until you slow down to 10mph or come to a complete stop.

Yes, it has happened. Yes, I quit the game furiously. :banghead:

yeah, that happened to me on the m3 versus s4 - i took a spill before coming up to a long straight away - i caught up with no problem but as soon as i went to overtake him - he does this phantom bump(never even touched me yet the rear kicked out like i was hit or like i wanted to initiate a drift going 160mph??) that sends me spinning into the guardrail - i haven't been that pissed at a video game since i first encountered the giggling dog in duckhunt...:mad:

Found this post on the GameSpot forums - not sure if you guys have tried this yet, but I gave it a go today and it seemed to make a pretty big difference. I had adjusted a little bit to the way this game played, but these settings helped me really start to stick the car where I wanted it to be.

"I found this post on the xbox.com forums and take no credit for it. I thought I might post it here because of its information is priceless to the enjoyment of this game!!

"There is now a 2nd fix for the sensitive steering/oversteer problem this game exhibits in its default settings. And let me tell you it is a NIGHT and DAY difference.
Please use 2nd fix along with the original thread suggestions on turning down sensitivity in the control options.

I have posted the original sensitivity config here:

Steering Dead Zone-15%
Accel Dead Zone-10%
Brake Dead Zone-10%
Steering sensitivity-5%
Acell Sensitivity -5%
Brake sensitivity-5%
Speed steering Sensitivity 100%


On to the 2nd fix:

At the main menu enter CAR GARAGE----> TUNING, press 'Y' to enter quick tuning mode.
Under the heading 'balance' move the slider all the way to OVERSTEER. That's right oversteer. Apparently the developer labeled this slider wrong or its a glitch. Turning the slider to oversteer will actually add understeer.

Now go drive. as you can see the cars are now more comparible to the feeling of Forza2 and RacePro. It may not be as good but it is now close! There was a sim hidden somewhere in all this mess and I may have to take back some to the nasty things I said beforehand

(Special thanks to Torque Spike for finding this on the EA forums!)""

^hopefully this works

i'm about two more spin outs from launching my controller into my tv :banghead:

haha i might have to agree with atilla there

ok here i go...racing in laguna seca w/those tuning specs

c'mon Atilla, get the lead out son. The suspense is killing us!

God dammit! Aion is sold out at every store! I guess I'll have to wait till next week. :(

Found this post on the GameSpot forums - not sure if you guys have tried this yet, but I gave it a go today and it seemed to make a pretty big difference. I had adjusted a little bit to the way this game played, but these settings helped me really start to stick the car where I wanted it to be.

"I found this post on the xbox.com forums and take no credit for it. I thought I might post it here because of its information is priceless to the enjoyment of this game!!

"There is now a 2nd fix for the sensitive steering/oversteer problem this game exhibits in its default settings. And let me tell you it is a NIGHT and DAY difference.
Please use 2nd fix along with the original thread suggestions on turning down sensitivity in the control options.

I have posted the original sensitivity config here:

Steering Dead Zone-15%
Accel Dead Zone-10%
Brake Dead Zone-10%
Steering sensitivity-5%
Acell Sensitivity -5%
Brake sensitivity-5%
Speed steering Sensitivity 100%


On to the 2nd fix:

At the main menu enter CAR GARAGE----> TUNING, press 'Y' to enter quick tuning mode.
Under the heading 'balance' move the slider all the way to OVERSTEER. That's right oversteer. Apparently the developer labeled this slider wrong or its a glitch. Turning the slider to oversteer will actually add understeer.
Now go drive. as you can see the cars are now more comparible to the feeling of Forza2 and RacePro. It may not be as good but it is now close! There was a sim hidden somewhere in all this mess and I may have to take back some to the nasty things I said beforehand

(Special thanks to Torque Spike for finding this on the EA forums!)""


HOLY HELL...


this just made the most significant difference in the game!!! :eek:

i just smashed all the competition on hard...thanks for the info YYYW :bigok:


...this game just became fun :FIREdevil


p.s.- john, i had to go to the blockbuster on valleyview to rent the game - :lol:

seriously, i just finished two races and i walked away from the comp in my tier 2 rx8.

Summary: the handling is a lot more managable now. There still is slight oversteer but if you have stability on, it'll correct itself almost immediately. If you have it off (like me) it's nothing outta the norm if you play GT or forza. a lil' counter-steer and some throttle control and you'll be fine - you can gas all the way outta the turn too! It's nuts. I have to try out other cars now with these specs...

Hehe, it's still not GT/Forza, but it's a helluva lot closer. I was frankly shocked with the difference it made. I figured surely people were exaggerating the effects, but it's really like a different game with the proper tweaks made.

It even seems to have helped with drifting. Though to be fair, drifting events in this game are much easier than I thought they'd be. Most reviews said drifting was really difficult, but at least through Tier 2, I haven't had any problems winning every drift event, typically on my first try. Hell, you don't even need big drifts, just hit the clipping points close and you'll be fine.

Playing this on the computer pisses me off. It's OK when you have a low powered car, but once you add turbo's and shit, You CANNOT stay on the road with the keyboard. You take a corner and the back end kicks out? You better just hit the brakes until you're straight, otherwise you will wobble to-and-fro until you hit the wall.

Also, wtf is up with you touching the grass/sand/etc and it SUCKS you in as if there is a black hole. Quite annoying.

*EDIT* OK, so I just saw those changes and they make the game MUCH more playable. Not great, still, but not bad at all. I can actually correct my angle of approach without going into a wall!

Cyber, I cannot imagine trying to play this game with the keyboard. I won't deny a proper gaming rig will overpower any PS3 or 360 on the planet, but some games just weren't meant to be played on a keyboard.

I play it on my lappy with a 360 controla!! works great

Hmmm, imma try YeahYeahYouWere settings.

Ok for some reason I can't take screenshots.. wtf. It just shows up as a black square.

Same here, I can't seem to take screenshots on my PC. I get a black screen everytime I paste it in paint. :(

Nope, settings still sucks.

^driver mod :D:

Same here, I can't seem to take screenshots on my PC. I get a black screen everytime I paste it in paint. :(

Instead of capturing a screen shot using alt+print screen which only captures the active window, have you tried to do a sht+ctrl+print screen to do a full screen capture?

Because all you're looking at is a black square... there is no game....

:P I have no idea why you can't take screens...sorry. :/

^driver mod :D:

Psh... I'm doing the M3 vs Audi thing, I always spin out or go off the track, it's gay. :(

Ren, at work we call those PICNICs - Problem In Chair, Not In Computer :D

Really can't take any credit for the settings, I just copied and pasted from the GameSpot forums, where someone else had copied and pasted from the EA forums I think.

Still not perfect, but especially with the assists on (traction control), it's definitely better.

John, dude...seriously...if you're still failing WITH the settings...i may have bad news for you :squint:

lol

John, dude...seriously...if you're still failing WITH the settings...i may have bad news for you :squint:

lol

haha, owned. 3000th post doesn't count here. :lol:

^seriously...here i thought it was in the discussion forum :banghead:

ok here's a new complaint...


WTF IS UP WITH THE SOUNDTRACK@?? :crying:

ok....after a couple of hours of playing this game i think i have found some true gripes (things i just can't get over)

1. The soundtrack. I know it's not supposed to be a really big part of the game - but i just got this xbox w/this new harddrive and i haven't had a chance to upload any music so i gotta listen to the one's that came with it...which sucks...because i believe there isn't a single song i can actually stand in this game - i'd like to believe i have pretty forgiving taste when it comes to racing soundtracks (this coming from a guy who blasts reggae, trance, rap, rock, pop, mainstream, metal and even japanese music while driving aggressively) but this crap is unforgivable. :icon_no2: i have to listen to nothing but screeching tires and collisions the entire time...which isn't bad...but 3 hours of screeching tires may damage something in my ears at some point...

2. Drift events. I love drifting in a video game - albeit an arcade game or sim (GT or Forza) - i love to pitch the car and i'd like to think i'm pretty good at it. This is the first time i've ever played an NFS game that i absolutely couldn't stand the drift events. I half to stay almost at half throttle the entire time otherwise the rear end will just kick out uncontrollably. At first, i thought it was supposed to do that to help key in on what time to start counter steering but nope...if you're not at 10-30% on the throttle, you're gonna oversteer.

3. Falling off the track - you might as well restart. It's ridiculous - fall off the track and suddenly you're off roading in the congo...wtf is up with my suspension!? IS THE SAND REALLY THAT BUMPY!? MY CAR LOOKS LIKE IT HAS HYDRO'S!? And the second you get back on the track you gotta baby the throttle otherwise you'll just spin out to the other side...which basically means you're gonna have to kindly let everybody pass before jumping back in.

4. Flipping cars - come on...really?? :jerkit:

5. Customization & WHEEL SELECTION!!! :mad:: Half the reason i prefer playing nfs games is for the customization - i love coming up with sick designs and color combos - but this game is lacking a lot of it's flare that was in Prostreet. - Don't even get me started on the wheel selection. :banghead: - No love for Prodrives, Advans, Enkei's, AME's or Gramlights??

:ftw:

you guys are idiots. Just use FRAPS!!!!
That's why it was created.

you guys are idiots. Just use FRAPS!!!!
That's why it was created.


Fraps is crap. Sorry, I said it.. >.>


I use Xfire, but they haven't updated it for NFS yet.. :(


ok....after a couple of hours of playing this game i think i have found some true gripes (things i just can't get over)

1. The soundtrack. I know it's not supposed to be a really big part of the game - but i just got this xbox w/this new harddrive and i haven't had a chance to upload any music so i gotta listen to the one's that came with it...which sucks...because i believe there isn't a single song i can actually stand in this game - i'd like to believe i have pretty forgiving taste when it comes to racing soundtracks (this coming from a guy who blasts reggae, trance, rap, rock, pop, mainstream, metal and even japanese music while driving aggressively) but this crap is unforgivable. i have to listen to nothing but screeching tires and collisions the entire time...which isn't bad...but 3 hours of screeching tires may damage something in my ears at some point...

2. Drift events. I love drifting in a video game - albeit an arcade game or sim (GT or Forza) - i love to pitch the car and i'd like to think i'm pretty good at it. This is the first time i've ever played an NFS game that i absolutely couldn't stand the drift events. I half to stay almost at half throttle the entire time otherwise the rear end will just kick out uncontrollably. At first, i thought it was supposed to do that to help key in on what time to start counter steering but nope...if you're not at 10-30% on the throttle, you're gonna oversteer.

3. Falling off the track - you might as well restart. It's ridiculous - fall off the track and suddenly you're off roading in the congo...wtf is up with my suspension!? IS THE SAND REALLY THAT BUMPY!? MY CAR LOOKS LIKE IT HAS HYDRO'S!? And the second you get back on the track you gotta baby the throttle otherwise you'll just spin out to the other side...which basically means you're gonna have to kindly let everybody pass before jumping back in.

4. Flipping cars - come on...really??

5. Customization & WHEEL SELECTION!!! : Half the reason i prefer playing nfs games is for the customization - i love coming up with sick designs and color combos - but this game is lacking a lot of it's flare that was in Prostreet. - Don't even get me started on the wheel selection. - No love for Prodrives, Advans, Enkei's, AME's or Gramlights??




I see you've come to the same realizations I have..

The other thing which I found rather annoying is how all the cars somehow weight like 20 tonnes and immovable objects if you hit them, and they can shove you around like you weight nothing, and then suddenly, it'll flip around and you can shove everyone, and they can't.. it's weird..


My favorite by far though is when you come out of a turn, and car decides to turn randomly after you straighten out, so you counter-steer, but then it goes too much, and the wobble gets worse and worse and worse, and you have to hit the brakes and come to a stop or spinout