Need some info on satin/flat black paint. Chip easy? Show dirt easy? Can you wax it? Just some all around info, I'm very tempted to get it painted completely flat black. Maybe some velocity red accents on the hood, evil M badges, few other spots. Lemme know what you think and help me make my decision!

Looks like an unfinished paint job IMO. Even exotics don't look good flat...

Basically it's a two stage paint job. If you want to do it right. Put down a base color, black for instance. Then it has to be shot with a clear coat.
Now clear coats are high gloss. So you'll have to add a flattening agent into the clear. When your done you'll have a Satin Black car. With all the characteristics of a normal High Gloss paint job. You'll be able to wash and wax the same as any other High Gloss clear coated car.
Just remember that if your doing additional colors and they have to be clear coated they will be Satin also. Unless you mask them separate and shoot them with High Gloss. Also remember if you do that you will have paint edges between the colors.

Im really diggin how these cars look, i think it would look killer on a RX8, plus, im all about the unique!

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4493/002zk8.jpg

wondering how long it will take for pic of flat black widebody 8 with gold wheels to show up ....

wondering how long it will take for pic of flat black widebody 8 with gold wheels to show up ....

You mean the one that was primered and high gloss coated later? :wiggle:

i have that pic somewhere

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/sweeper357/flatblackrx8.jpg

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/sweeper357/flatblackrx8racecar.jpg

found it

murdered out!

Need some info on satin/flat black paint. Chip easy? Show dirt easy? Can you wax it? Just some all around info, I'm very tempted to get it painted completely flat black. Maybe some velocity red accents on the hood, evil M badges, few other spots. Lemme know what you think and help me make my decision!
just get it vinyl wrapped
looks just as good, cheaper, and can be removed if you get sick of it or want to sell your car

this is vinyl wrapped:
http://i43.tinypic.com/1z55deq.jpg

oh and that top pic dozer posted is not flat black..it's primer
a real flat black paint job doesn't look that dull or gray

flat black is siick...
http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/06/Flat-Black-Nissan-GT_R-03.jpg

flat black is siick...
http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/06/Flat-Black-Nissan-GT_R-03.jpg

the graffiti in the back makes that car look bad ass

Hella fresh

http://www.vendettacycles.com/vendettacycles/images/flat_black_side.jpg

:cool:

Have ya'll seen these paint jobs in person?

Why am I the only one that thnks they look like dull unfinished jobs :wallbash:

Hella fresh

http://www.vendettacycles.com/vendettacycles/images/flat_black_side.jpg

:cool:

dude that actually what im gonna do to my bike :)...need to finish getting all the old paint off first

Have ya'll seen these paint jobs in person?

Why am I the only one that thnks they look like dull unfinished jobs :wallbash:
yes
I am a painter...in fact I did a little flat painting today on a truck. It wasn't black, but a graphite color tho.

not everyone is going to like the look of it, don't stress out over it

+1

I personally like the stealthy look of flat black - at night the car is damn near invisible even passing by lights - it'll just look like a really fast shadow.

yes
I am a painter...in fact I did a little flat painting today on a truck. It wasn't black, but a graphite color tho.

not everyone is going to like the look of it, don't stress out over it

I want to know what it feels like to enjoy this color :(

lol... I'm going to go ahead and stop drinking for tonight.

I prefer matte white, it's more unique IMO, and flat/matte black paint jobs are getting played out. Also there is a difference between flat black and Matte black. Matte looks much better.

This is what a matte black paint job should look like IMO:

FiveAxis IS-F bitches

http://www.desktopcar.net/wallpaper/38372-2/Lexus_IS-F_Five_Axis_Project_193.jpg

i like my gtr better =P

This is just evil. :bowdown:

^that's badass!

it's the devil's car....

id go flat black if i had the money. it just looks aggressive and mean! my rims are flat black thats probably about as close as i'll get.

PPG made a statement a while back about why they won't invest in flat paints for mass production. Their reasoning was something along the lines of it being a fad and also that when you wash/wax/polish a flat car you are going to be making it shinier resulting in a totally heinous looking finish with a shiny, matte and flat look all over. In essence, flat doesn't work.

I do dig that vinyl wrapped idea. Any more info on that?

I have satin black on the roof, and on my wheels and after months of washes its still the same finish, however I cant wax the surface for said reasons^^^ ,,,

Overlay is probably the way to go with flat/satin colors.

dude flat black is fucking awesome but its just as much work as having a BB rx8 its gonna be more work to clean and wax actually at least i think so

So its a done deal, im going to "flip" the colors of my rx8, Flat Black where the velocity red is, and flat velocity red where the black is. Might not be "murdered out" but i htink it will be badass, please save the hate comments for another thread lol. Im gonna try and photoshop this color scheme so i can see what it will look like...

You will need kit, agressive wheels, and drop to pull that off.

^+1.. at least a ms front and sides

In b4 rotary noob actually succeeds in making his car look worse. Who knew it was possible?

You will need kit, agressive wheels, and drop to pull that off.

this

OK nvm, now that i look at it, it looks kinda silly, i guess ill go all over flat black, i need to incorporate VR into my exterior somehow tho, cuz i have the two-tone interior.... any suggestions?
http://i29.tinypic.com/x3xvlz.jpg

On another note, a 2009 RX8 would look Killer with my paint scheme =]

http://i27.tinypic.com/v6ksvl.jpg

Just repaint it VR and drop it. It will cost you less money and will look 100% better than it does now or whatever you are dreaming up.

Naw, I'm going with flat black.

So many haters.

It is your car so do what ever you want. But expect positive/negative feedback when you put it out there what you want to do.

it's not a bugatti.. the color scheme reminds me of the veyron

http://blogs.sun.com/bigadmin/resource/bugatti_veyron.jpg

Yeah, Veyrons have the same color scheme, but people have been doing it with mazdas longer, especially the 3G RX7.

Does look pretty hot tho. =]

You could always just get a red pinstripe on your rims. Should be just enough to bring it out.

Like was said, MS kit, pinstripe rims, drop, and tints would bring it up to significant bad-assery.

Yeah, i was thinkin the same, honestly i think it would look good with the color sceme above, the one on my car now, or all flat black. Prolly not gonna go with the MS kit tho, too many people have it. Was looking at Invader Kit, or AIT kit. We will see, i reenlist in october so ill decide then, once i have my money lol.

If i didn't have a BCM i would go flat black. ITs great looking if done right.

Flat black would be very cool but you will need an aggressive kit to go along with it.

flat black would be very cool but you will need an aggressive kit to go along with it.

hater!!!

Like was said, MS kit, pinstripe rims, drop, and tints would bring it up to significant bad-assery.

more haterade!

I think I might go with the invader kit shown here, and the flat black paint job. Keep my badges VR and the Rotor shape on the hood VR, lugnuts VR.

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/6134/0000a.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9316/0000aa.jpg

"invader" is knockoff veilside

That kit would work....I think the wing is a little too big though. I would go with a smaller one, like the MS. (Sorry I'm a MS fan.) But the rest would definitely look cool flat.

That kit would work....I think the wing is a little too big though. I would go with a smaller one, like the MS. (Sorry I'm a MS fan.) But the rest would definitely look cool flat.
Stop hatin'

Stop hatin'

stop hatin on the hataz

Hate hate hate hate

:rant:
:rant:
:rant:
:rant:
:rant:

Veilside FTW

Naw, i wouldnt have either of those spoilers, id prolly go with the INGS+1 or a replica.

So heres the breakdown:
Paint: Flat Black
Rims: Flat Black
Kit: Invader
Spoiler: INGS+1
VR Accents: Evil M Badge, Rotor Shape On Hood, Rear Badges, Headlights, Lugs, Calipers.

Now I just need to figure out pricing and wait for my bonus. lol. Im excited now lol.

Which rims?

Haven't decided yet. May just keep stockers if i cant find any A/M i like.

I like the Volk Racing SF Challenges alot, Ill just have to get them powder coated.

You don't need an outlandish kit like Veilside one to make it work. I think matte black looks good on any car with a naturally aggressive stance, especially flared fender arches (which we already got). Check the first pic of the M5 for instance.

Personally though, I'd try a Matte White vinyl job :Drooling_

You should do it! Then we can set up a photo shoot together and get some epic pics lol!

You're a n00b if you paint your car flat black. People who have a flat black paint scheme on their car is in fact, not painted, it is a flat black vinyl. 9/10 flat black cars are wrapped in vinyl.

Well mine will be painted. And i will be a noob.

I give you three months at most with a flat black paint job before you go "ewww". If you don't know why then research it.

Actually, I'm feeling nice, let me tell you why.

Bird crap gets stuck to the flat black paint, it will never come off, even after clay barring, flat black is very easy to get stuff stuck onto it, and you can not wash flat black unless you have special chemicals for it.

Well, if you do paint it, good luck to you, keep us posted on how you are going to maintain the flat black paint scheme.

You're a n00b if you paint your car flat black. People who have a flat black paint scheme on their car is in fact, not painted, it is a flat black vinyl. 9/10 flat black cars are wrapped in vinyl.

psst...you are a hater if you give constructive advice :suspect:

de3r n00b,

and after spending thousands of dollars getting a replica kit to fit, thousands of dollars painting or wrapping it, youre gonna keep the stock wheels. awesome

love,
hat3r

psst...you are a hater if you give constructive advice :suspect:

:rofl:

Ok, I'll stop helping people out and prevent them from making mistakes.

What I want though is a Matte White finish on an 8, though of course, it will only be vinyl.

the white lambo is clean and could see it working well on an 8.

hhahaahhhh your money that you want to paint your car with is gonna go poof!!! when you get that kit and realize you have to sink all that money into getting it to fit...

Hm if i understand correctly the flatness is not caused by the black paint but the clear coat that is sprayed over top of it. And from what others are telling me you can wash and wax it just like any other paint job. And im extremely sorry that what IM doing with MY car hurts you so much that you must resort to childish jokes and flaming. Chill out dude, you do you and ill do me.

If i had said i wanted to get my car matte white using vinyl, everyone would have been saying how matte black works better and paint is better than vinyl. lol.

^ Don't pay attention to the haters. I think it will look dope!

Eh, ok, it's up to you then, good luck on your endeavors.

Basically it's a two stage paint job. If you want to do it right. Put down a base color, black for instance. Then it has to be shot with a clear coat.
Now clear coats are high gloss. So you'll have to add a flattening agent into the clear. When your done you'll have a Satin Black car. With all the characteristics of a normal High Gloss paint job. You'll be able to wash and wax the same as any other High Gloss clear coated car.
Just remember that if your doing additional colors and they have to be clear coated they will be Satin also. Unless you mask them separate and shoot them with High Gloss. Also remember if you do that you will have paint edges between the colors.


I guess hes a liar tho...........


It seems like anyone with new, or unique ideas for their car gets shot down and flamed like crazy, im not just talking about me, ive seen the same few people flame others that have any kind of individuality. Maybe thats why all you guys cars look the exact same tho. I can prolly sum up about 90% of the community. Stock color, MS body kit, Tien S Techs, tinted windows, and 5 spoke aluminum finish wheels.

You can get matte vinyl wrap here:

http://www.stickercity.com/51-x-linear-foot-matte-black-wrap-vinyl-sheet.html

They have black and white, for only $20 bucks a linear foot, I'm tempted to do it! Matte White that is.

Though Easy has taken time to spell out one technique for you Ive tried that with mixed results(some good, some bad)and over time, if you continue to wax and wash the paint the surface will suffer, if you use satin paint you need a hardening agent to determine the percentage of Satin that you desire, but since your(Noobie) not taking the time to research this yourself, thats why you are getting flammed,,,
Before you call BS on everyone just thin to yourself, "hey Im not so unique, if I thought of it someone else must have thought it too,,," "and maybe they know more about this subject then I do,,, " Dude,,,
There is where your logic is ascew,,,
Go and do some research , get some test pieces, try different techniques let those pieces sit out in the weather for six months and then see if you want to do this,,,
There are over a dozen threads that have covered this topic before and thats just on this forum,,,
http://a.imagehost.org/0477/3660089306_df8cd80703.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0477/3660089306_df8cd80703)

http://a.imagehost.org/0370/dsc0191xg.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0370/dsc0191xg)

http://a.imagehost.org/0381/dsc0213l.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0381/dsc0213l)

http://a.imagehost.org/0073/dsc0110pr.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0073/dsc0110pr)

Greg wins.

Nah,,, its just like anything else those that refuse to take the initiative to do the research themselves fall flat on thier face time and time again, no matter wether its paint, performance mods, anything,,,
Not to say that Noobie wont do it, but to do it right will take experimenting, patience, time and probably some decent amount of money...

And judging by his poor choice in the quality of kit that hes going for my guess is that hes goin for the instant cheap result,,,

I will appluad though, if proven otherwise,,,

My favorite part is one of the first things about finance you learn in the military is to not blow bonuses on cars :nono:

i'm jealous

http://a.imagehost.org/0477/3660089306_df8cd80703.jpg

What hood is that?

Either custom or Monster Garage, no one has really been able to answer that question since the image popped up in the JDM thread,,,

Either custom or Monster Garage, no one has really been able to answer that question since the image popped up in the JDM thread,,,

:tear:

those cars are drooo0ol...

greg dont be a hater man.,.,., :suspect:

My favorite part is one of the first things about finance you learn in the military is to not blow bonuses on cars :nono:

Amazing how many people laugh when I post that in all the threads. Essentially after spending 1, 5, 10+ thousand dollars to make it "your car" you have devalued it an equal amount since no one wants "you car". Then comes the inevitable quote, "I'll never get rid of it". :cwm27:

You can get matte vinyl wrap here:

http://www.stickercity.com/51-x-linear-foot-matte-black-wrap-vinyl-sheet.html

"• Pressure sensitive adhesive, clean removability up to 4 years. "

What happens after four years? :)

When people pay for full wraps I can not imagine they do the all the jams and under the hood and trunk. Which would look like crap especially on the 8 because so much is exposed when opened up.

"• Pressure sensitive adhesive, clean removability up to 4 years. "

What happens after four years? :)

I dunno, I assume it comes off?

When people pay for full wraps I can not imagine they do the all the jams and under the hood and trunk. Which would look like crap especially on the 8 because so much is exposed when opened up.

You can wrap door jams and such with the vinyl, it is very stretchy, it would just take more material and obviously more time...if you want a clean job it's worth it IMO instead of half-assing it.

I've seen a few show cars with full vinyl wraps that has the door jams, door sills, and even under the hood wrapped...but they were show cars and probably not your average wrap.

Hm, the wrap doesn's seem like such a bad idea, I'll have to find somewhere local that can wrap it tho, are there ever any problems with bubbles or anyhting of that sort?

Also, does anyone have any idea about how much of this vinyl crap ill need? I dont understand the "58" x Linear Foot" on the website chickenwafer supplied.

ALSO, lol if i want to do an eyebrow with the vinyl too, is that possible? Will it stick to glass?

It will stick to anything...

If you have a shop do it you won't get any bubbles, plus it's a breathable material otherwise your paint underneath would rot and promote rust...

The linear foot means you add how many feet you need and it makes a solid sheet, instead of multiple sheets, that way you have no seams...

I understand that part, but does the 58" X Linear foot mean that its always gonna be 58" wide? How much do you think i would need to completely cover the car? I have plenty of time to figure it out, I wont be able to get the kit until October, thus, no need for the vinyl. lol.

Hm, the wrap doesn's seem like such a bad idea, I'll have to find somewhere local that can wrap it tho, are there ever any problems with bubbles or anyhting of that sort?

Also, does anyone have any idea about how much of this vinyl crap ill need? I dont understand the "58" x Linear Foot" on the website chickenwafer supplied.

ALSO, lol if i want to do an eyebrow with the vinyl too, is that possible? Will it stick to glass?

Why in the world would you do an opaque eyebrow? They're done with window tint so you can still see out of them.

I understand that part, but does the 58" X Linear foot mean that its always gonna be 58" wide? How much do you think i would need to completely cover the car? I have plenty of time to figure it out, I wont be able to get the kit until October, thus, no need for the vinyl. lol.

Dude, just take it a shop that does vinyl wraps.....you're obviously over your head now

Alright thanks for the criticism and not-help, thats obviously what i was requesting.

If i go flat black i want everything to match, so having flat black all over the car then glossy black tint for the eyebrow would look silly.

Its right there on Chickenwafers sig: To Not Take A Risk, Is The Biggest Risk Of All

Alright thanks for the criticism and not-help, thats obviously what i was requesting.

If i go flat black i want everything to match, so having flat black all over the car then glossy black tint for the eyebrow would look silly.

Its right there on Chickenwafers sig: To Not Take A Risk, Is The Biggest Risk Of All

You do know eyebrow refers to a strip of tint on the top of the windshield right? If you're talking about EYELIDS than by all means do them in vinyl...

If you want everything to match then ditch the idea of VR badges and the other VR accents you were considering.

Hm, apparently i will get nothing but flames and dis's on any unique ideas i might have. I already have CF eyelids, I know what the fuck an eyebrow is and Im telling you it would look completely retarded to do the car in flat black then have shiny black on the windshield.

This thread is over, ill show you how it looks when im done, until then have fun having the same exact car as everyone els minus the rims.

^Good Luck.

:)

Yea my 2009 is EXACTLY the same as everyone elses.

:jerkit:

I have always been interested in this, personally i think flat black looks sick on cars when done properly. i say props to you, and if you go through with it post pics!

Yea my 2009 is EXACTLY the same as everyone elses.

:jerkit:


Congrats, you have lowering springs and tint, along with 90% of the community.

I have always been interested in this, personally i think flat black looks sick on cars when done properly. i say props to you, and if you go through with it post pics!

Thanks man, I'm hoping it will look good, gonna make sure i get my moneys worth if I'mgonna invest it into flat black. will deff post some pics, ill shoot you a PM when i post em! =]

I know it may not seem like it but a lot of the criticism you are receiving is constructive :) Seriously if no one cared then this thread would have died a quick death.

I guess that makes sense. Its hard to read past the petty insults to what the person is actually trying to be helpful about.

I do have one more question about the vinyl, is it tough to maintain? Stain easily? General info please, and if possible leave out any insults lol.

dunno if its the same material, but i had a decal custom made by a local shop and its was easy to take care of,showed some scratches but nothing horrible acted just as one would expect couldnt wax for a couple of days after then just normal care.

Alright thanks for the criticism and not-help, thats obviously what i was requesting.

If i go flat black i want everything to match, so having flat black all over the car then glossy black tint for the eyebrow would look silly.

Its right there on Chickenwafers sig: To Not Take A Risk, Is The Biggest Risk Of All

Dude I think it would sick....I've helped you out and even gave you the link to where you can buy the shit. But I don't work at a fuckin wrap shop so how the hell would I know how much you need??

Do some leg work on your own, go outside and measure your car. Or take it to a shop that does vinyl wraps and get an estimate.

Werd ^^^

How much better would this thread be if it was " hey everyone look WTF I did and how badass it is" instead of "someone please hold my hand"

Comon dude if you have the drive you say you have then it should be done, or you should have atleast some research to share and then we can discuss,,,

what is the point of this thread besides dissing people with tint and springs. if you want to do it, dont bitch in here or try and play the martyr like everyone just shits on you, just go do it. you have more than enough information to get it done.

I feel bad that everyone always makes fun of Rx8_rotory_Noobie :( just my 2 cents

It's whatever. Im gonna TRY to do my hood and trunk by myself. If it works out I'll move on to the rest of the car, one of the NCOs i work with actually owns a paint shop, he said vinyls arent that hard to do, just peel, stretch, stick and compress. Ill measure the hood and trunk later, but from what i gather the site you supplied only sells the vinyl in 58" widths by whatever lengths you need. Ill keep everyone updated.

Congrats, you have lowering springs and tint, along with 90% of the community.


Whats wrong with that? Is easy and cheap..It's the first thing most people do.

I feel bad that everyone always makes fun of Rx8_rotory_Noobie :( just my 2 cents

Look at his avatar..

I think the vinyl would look good right after coming out from the shop, but eventually the environment would get to it. Dust and/or pollen would get stuck in the clean edges where the vinyl was cut and it might start to peel. The you would be really pissed.

Get it painted flat black. I did about 5 minutes of research and found out that you can get clearcoat with a dulling agent to still allow the flat black color of the car to show through.http://www.autobodydepot.net/docs/P-217.pdf

EDIT - I read a little more and found that the dulling agent isn't much of a protective coating for an automobile that sees weather daily. You would have to get it clearcoated an ample amount of times then add a coat of clear w/dulling. - Not personal experience, just what I've read. I have to say though it's gonna be hella expensive, but would be much better than cheap vinyl.

wow hes only 20 with an rx8, when i was 20 i had a 1978 Buick regal and moved up to a 1989 Honda accord

wow hes only 20 with an rx8, when i was 20 i had a 1978 Buick regal and moved up to a 1989 Honda accord

thats one of the best posts in this thread.

wow hes only 20 with an rx8, when i was 20 i had a 1978 Buick regal and moved up to a 1989 Honda accord

Bonuses... Giving Soldiers a false sense of wealth since 1775!

Once again, i didnt spend my bonus on my RX8. I'm good with money, and why the fuck does it matter what i spend my money on anyways?

http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=180683


If you were still considering knockoff veilsides

you should just save up some more money and go for the rmagic widebody kit...you could paint that kit flat black, or bright pink and it would look just as amazing.

I think I'm gonna skip out on the flat black, hwever i might go full two-tone black and red, which means getting my roof and door pillars painted black as well. I think that will look pretty good.

Door pillers? Aren't they are already black? Do you mean the rear doors around the window.. as in basically the top half of the car will be black? What about your trunk?

Yeah, the pillars in between the windshield and the front windows and the pillars between the rear windshield and the rear windows will need to be painted black. My trunk is already painted black.

oooohh great,,

Now all that bitchin you did was really worth it,,,

Rofl, whatever dude, you guys are the ones that made me not want to do the flat black.

I LOVE this car, this is the look im going for.

http://www.rx8club.com/picture.php?albumid=160&pictureid=2138

bunique.. his ride is dope and unique. i believe it's for sale

so you have a weak will power and dont follow through on things you want to start a whole thread about and not even research,,, Indeed ROFLMFAO

bunique.. his ride is dope and unique. i believe it's for sale

Yep he should just buy his ride.

so you have a weak will power and dont follow through on things you want to start a whole thread about and not even research,,, Indeed ROFLMFAO

HATER!!!

Yep he should just buy his ride.



HATER!!!

yeah I am,,,, haaaa

Rofl, whatever dude, you guys are the ones that made me not want to do the flat black.

I LOVE this car, this is the look im going for.

http://www.rx8club.com/picture.php?albumid=160&pictureid=2138

Hey at least you picked a good example to follow. no one was against you going with flat black. If anything everyone was trying to help you on how to go about it.

That's sexy, I still say you do flat black scheme but use vynils. :)

Hey at least you picked a good example to follow. no one was against you going with flat black. If anything everyone was trying to help you on how to go about it.

dont encourage, people like this, its never thier fault its alwyas us that are the d-bags remember,,,,

I really really want flat black, but everyones got me worried about upkeep and how hard its gonna be with vinyls OR paint.

And Bunique is my hero btw.lol

no homo right :lol:

I really really want flat black, but everyones got me worried about upkeep and how hard its gonna be with vinyls OR paint.

it's like anything else that you love.. this car itself is high maintenance, but you keep with it because you love it. just do the flat black if you feel like it's what you want

this thread is like n4L1n but worse

it is funny how it writes itself ;)

My roof has been Satin Black for two months now using a new technique and new product we research but for long term its still undetermined wether it will last, also my wheels have been Satin black for 6 months now and only small signs of imperfection due to being in such a risky place with road rocks and such,,,

So....whats the secret. lol.

http://www.rx8club.com/picture.php?albumid=1066&pictureid=7867

I wonder how many of Emart11b's posts the mods will have to delete before he stops acting like a child.

thread closed. emart and noob drop it