Too many 16 year old kids can afford them. There are actually a couple of guys that own em around here that are alright, but the rest of em are just punk kids. It's always about the street races. I've got the RX-8 shirt that was made by a fellow here, and wear it quite often. Whenever a person who owns an RX-7 sees me, they feel the need to challenge my 8 to a street race down the busiest road in town.

And of course, they usually ruin the car in the process of 'modding' it. Adding a boost controller to the S4 and adding a huge exhaust so now the thing boost spikes of damn near 20 PSI on stock everything, and say "It's oK, these engines are meant to hit high boost, it won't hurt them." It's people like that which give these cars a bad rep. Then the cone air filters in the engine bay, and call it a CAI...blah blah blah. There's already a very few 'clean' FC's around...they need to stop ruining them more :(

I'm kind of glad I'm aiming at getting an FD next. It's tough for little kids to get their grubby hands on em.

OK, whew, rant over. On a side note, I see a lot of clean FB's around here.

I actually don't know too many guys with FCs around here. I've run into a few of them on the road, and most of them are seem the street racing type, but for the most part have just revved at me and waved. I did see a black FC a couple of months ago that was one of the loudest cars I've ever heard on the street. He was on 95N and you could hear him for literally a mile... just unbelievably, earsplittingly loud. Granted it sounded nice because its a rotary, but I can't believe he doesn't have a giant stack of tickets for noise violation. I see even fewer FDs around, and all the ones I have seen are modded to hell and back. There is quite a nice stable of them up at PF Supercars where my car is at right now. Veilside FD RX-7 in silver and black etc.

The FD's look much better IMO. I'm not sure about the performance difference. But it's a shame that those kids are giving the FC a bad name. I'm afraid that's gonna happen to the 8 down the road.

The FD's look much better IMO. I'm not sure about the performance difference. But it's a shame that those kids are giving the FC a bad name. I'm afraid that's gonna happen to the 8 down the road.

I don't know.
Since the 8 has a "rep" of being "slow" I doubt it will be that big with street racers.

I never see anyone around here with an FC, and if I do, it's usually an older man driving it.

That's why I sold my FC too. That and I got $13k for it -- if it got stolen insurance wouldn't give me that much for it.

It just never ends, beause too many 16 year old have gotten rx8 since 2006. What is the plan now?

It just never ends, beause too many 16 year old have gotten rx8 since 2006. What is the plan now?

Until they get them around here, I'm safe.

It just never ends, beause too many 16 year old have gotten rx8 since 2006. What is the plan now?


I barely ever see another 8 over here

RX-8s are getting cheap enough for teenagers to get their hands on them. Ahem. They seem to be uncommon enough to avoid most of the ricers, though.

I think your letting off some steam after getting swindled.
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=783381

Why'd you go and remind me :(

Why'd you go and remind me :(

Well your reminding yourself with your signature. :D:

Well your reminding yourself with your signature. :D:

Lol, thankfully I never really look down there.

The most painful thing is I know who is driving and where it is most of the time, but there isn't a thing I can do about it.

I got so played :(

How'd it get stolen and they get away with it??

teenager may get into this car but none boosted with over 300 RWHP, everyone boost their cas!!!! but then again not many kids can afford the gas.. plus they are all mainly in the honda stage. i feel bad for the s2k people.. a bunch of kids at my old hs got s2k and they put those big fart cans omg sonds distgusting lol.. they know nothing about cars.. this is something they actually said "He doesnt get traction beause he has to much tread" hahahah

How'd it get stolen and they get away with it??

This is a long and complicated story, but it's completely my fault also. I am too trusting..

First guy 'sells' his car to second guy. First guy never signs the title off to second guy....so second guy has title in first guys name *That already sounds confusing...*

Second guy trades car to me. I get title in first guy's name still. Told that the first guy will sign over title. I signed the title of the RX-7 I was trading to second guy.

Before I could get a hold of first guy, he comes and snatches the car while I was at work.

So now I have a title in first guy's name....not exactly promising.

hey i'm 17 and have an 8, but that doesn't mean that i'll murder her with ricer stuff, i'm trying to skip on all the stupid things thankfully i've had enough examples to learn from

This is a long and complicated story, but it's completely my fault also. I am too trusting..

First guy 'sells' his car to second guy. First guy never signs the title off to second guy....so second guy has title in first guys name *That already sounds confusing...*

Second guy trades car to me. I get title in first guy's name still. Told that the first guy will sign over title. I signed the title of the RX-7 I was trading to second guy.

Before I could get a hold of first guy, he comes and snatches the car while I was at work.

So now I have a title in first guy's name....not exactly promising.

So 1st guy picked up the car he originally sold to the second guy from you. If I were you, I would wreck the crap out of that car and paste the title back on his hood after doing so. I would not let that slide.

Either I would give him an ass whooping, or his car. Either way I wouldn't walk away feeling non-gratified.

All karma, payback, pwning aside, you have the title in your hand still, no? I'd go to the police then with it. How is he going to argue you somehow magically got the title, he just let you borrow it? On top of that unless buyer #2 is a douchbag dizzler as well, have him for a witness. So do NOT let someone like that slide with thousands of dollars of your hard work going in their fun zone especially when you know who and where that person is.

^ +1

Trust me, I wouldn't be sitting here with my thumb up my ass if I didn't have a choice.

I went to the police, reported it stolen. It's been well over 6 months. I still see him driving.

I contacted the second guy, who says he had no idea what happened and would love to help me get the car back. Let's just say I went through enough "OK, let me call you back" , "I lost your number" , "I lost your number again" , "Let me call you back." , *no response for weeks...*

I know I got played by them both. That's why I'll always stray people around here to not deal with either of them, as they are bad news. Most people already knew, I had to find out the hard way.

*EDIT* Also, I have a "Duplicate Title". Thief has the original. :( I guess it would be nice since I'll give him a bit of a headache when he goes to renew tags...

ALSO, I will not go wreck his shit. He knows where I live, and that's the last thing I want to do...bring more harm unto me/my property than has already occurred. These assholes are shifty douchebags.

I have an FB and an FC. I just bought the FC at the end of January and drove it from Cincinatti back here to Houston. It was right during those ice storms in Kentucky and I drove through it. Mine is a black '90 GXL. It's a nonturbo. The reason I bought it and went so far to get it is because it was completely stock. No mods at all. That was worth everything to me as no one has had a chance to mess it up. It's very rare to find a nice one that hasn't been screwed up.

I've messed with these things for a while now and this is my 3rd FC. I've been through the modding stage with them all. This one with the exception of a high flow cat and FD wheels is bone stock. I've even got the stock paper air filter in it! Incidentally I've been running intake tests with magnahelic gauges and various pressure taps and have found that the air flow meter is a larger restriction on the intake than the paper air filter is! What's the point of a cone filter that sits in a hot engine bay when the restriction is AFTER it?

I rarely see an FC anymore. I don't get many people trying to race either. A few do though but I let them go. I am saddened by the fact that I have yet to see a single RX-8 driver acknowedge me. If I see another RX-7 on the road, they'll seemingly go out of the way to give a thumbs up. It's a mutual bond with the 7 owners. The 8 people could typically care less and wouldn't know the heritage if it was lectured to them. It's sad really.

As far as trying to race an RX-8 in an FC, no one in a nonturbo FC better be trying that. The car was either 146 or 160 HP stock and had a quarter mile time from the factory, when driven well, of 16.1 sec. The stock TII could only muster a 15.1 stock so even it may not be a match against an RX-8 but it would be closer. You'd have to have a TII that was modded a little bit. Fortunately for them it takes nothing more than a free flowing exhaust and a fuel cut defenser to pull ahead of the RX-8 but any turbo car is easy to make fast.

If you guys ever think your RX-8's get poor fuel mileage just remember that your cars weight 300-400 lbs more than the RX-7s did, have more power by far than all but the FD, and have either a 4.44:1 or 4.77:1 rear end ratio as opposed to all but the auto RX-7's at 4.10:1 and you still get roughly the same gas mileage and you do it with a fraction of the emissions. The RX-8 is a really good car. Many RX-7 people just can't accept the fact that their cars are old technology. Even the FD's.

Yeah, I usually find some way of signaling to the 7's around town....unless it's the aforementioned 7 of mine..then I flip the guy off...

Honestly, I like FC's better than FD's
Never liked the looks that much and a big headache. I may be a bit ignorant about the FD (someone plz correct me if im wrong), but it's turbo's suck ass and screws up the whole car.

You should have cop friends tag along with you and arrest them.

Honestly, I like FC's better than FD's
Never liked the looks that much and a big headache. I may be a bit ignorant about the FD (someone plz correct me if im wrong), but it's turbo's suck ass and screws up the whole car.
It's not really the turbo's causing any issues, it's a combination of issues. Ranging from poor cooling to the immense amounts of vaccuum pipes there for the "Sequential Turbo" making it a headache to do any real troubleshooting on. Good cars with some 'reliability mods' done to it.

You should have cop friends tag along with you and arrest them.

I would, if I had a cop friend. :(

Though it would be considered slow by today's standards I would give anything to have my '89 GXL back. It was 100% stock (minus a few replacement parts out of necessity) but very adequate for me performance-wise through the mid to late 90's. I still think that even the wheels that came on those late model GXL's were the coolest thing and never be worth changing. Of course some upgrades to various things would be acceptable when I know it was done right. I would love to find another 89-90 GXL these days (probably in the same factory metallic blue that mine came in) but I wouldn't have the cash to shell out for one these days that would be in the condition I would want it in. I would also like a perfect condition '85 GSL-SE (or slightly earlier FB) one day now as I used the think everything was right about this car exactly the way it was and the first I remember really turning me on to rotary cars. Friends laugh and say stuff like "why would you want something like that?"

The 8 people could typically care less and wouldn't know the heritage if it was lectured to them. It's sad really.

Very true.

As far as trying to race an RX-8 in an FC, no one in a nonturbo FC better be trying that. The car was either 146 or 160 HP stock and had a quarter mile time from the factory, when driven well, of 16.1 sec.

Also very true, but there was something about my N/A FC that was so pleasing to me and gave me a sense that it was fast (maybe because I was younger and the first true sports car I had every owned - not to mention still not many really fast affordable cars on sale in that day). I see the RX-8 of today in much the same way - very adequate for my needs and the fun-to-drive part is the only thing I really care about - not taking down that Camry V6 in the lane next to me (sarcasm). I wouldn't ever consider the 8 slow but still agree with the saying that in most real world situations it is still much more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow.

ALSO, I will not go wreck his shit. He knows where I live, and that's the last thing I want to do...bring more harm unto me/my property than has already occurred. These assholes are shifty douchebags.

That wouldn't stop me. They'd first have to know it was you if done when they're away or in middle of the night. Secondly, even if they did suspect you, install a camera, catch them messing with your shit means instant jail time. That's what insurance is for and I bet you he doesn't have any on your car which means he's Fugged once that car is messed up.

Call me stubborn but even if I was in your shoes, and they messed my shit up, insurance covers it where they likely wouldn't have Jack Shit for insurance on that car plus the fact catching them on video and landing their ass in jail makes it even better if they did try anything. Along with having a garage and dead bolt doors works wonders so good luck to them. Maybe I'm being over the top, but I will expedite my means to do something even if it gives me a little bit of a hassle with replacing stuff via insurance, if I know I can burn them so they get the worst of it I will not sit around letting that fool make me a tool, I'll send that punk back to school!

There are certain things in life I'll turn the other cheek to, my car is not one of them. I will make them pay and wish they didn't in the first place if they bother to.

Honestly, I like FC's better than FD's
Never liked the looks that much and a big headache. I may be a bit ignorant about the FD (someone plz correct me if im wrong), but it's turbo's suck ass and screws up the whole car.

As much as I love the way the FD looks, I'll probably never own one. I don't want to spend 10 grand on top of the purchase price along with lots of time trying to make the stupid thing reliable. I've worked on my friend's FD enough to know I don't need those headaches.

If I ever did own one though, it would probably get me excommunicated from the RX-7 community. I'd yank the engine, turbos, and transmission and sell them. Then I'd install a naturally aspirated Renesis, a lighweight aluminum flywheel, and an RX-8 (or equivalent) 6 speed transmission. I'd use 4 fuel injectors and a cable throttlebody and would control it all with the factory wiring harness using a Power FC for full tuning capabilities. I'd never have to worry about it overheating and it would be about as fast as a stock FD which is fast enough for me. It would also be lighter than the stock FD which is a good thing as that car is already pretty light. On top of that I'd run it on good old 87 octane! I guarantee that once I tuned it, in a car that light with it's 4.10:1 rear end ratio, I could get 20+ mpg city all day long and at least 30 mpg hwy AND pass a sniffer test!

That's my dream FD. If I said this on the 7 forum, I'd get flamed hard!

when I bought my 88 GTU back in 04 there were plenty of FC's around. Now there's hardly any left. I have an 88 Turbo II now and I've actually spent a lot of money getting the interior back to near stock and restoring a lot of the wiring and such.

After the heydey of the mid part of this decade I now feel like I live in a post-apocalyptic car scene.

That wouldn't stop me. They'd first have to know it was you if done when they're away or in middle of the night. Secondly, even if they did suspect you, install a camera, catch them messing with your shit means instant jail time. That's what insurance is for and I bet you he doesn't have any on your car which means he's Fugged once that car is messed up.

Call me stubborn but even if I was in your shoes, and they messed my shit up, insurance covers it where they likely wouldn't have Jack Shit for insurance on that car plus the fact catching them on video and landing their ass in jail makes it even better if they did try anything. Along with having a garage and dead bolt doors works wonders so good luck to them. Maybe I'm being over the top, but I will expedite my means to do something even if it gives me a little bit of a hassle with replacing stuff via insurance, if I know I can burn them so they get the worst of it I will not sit around letting that fool make me a tool, I'll send that punk back to school!

There are certain things in life I'll turn the other cheek to, my car is not one of them. I will make them pay and wish they didn't in the first place if they bother to.
When will the back and forth 'hurting each other' stop though? I essentially lost a couple grand. That's nothing in the big bucket of life and experience.

Although, I installed a SAFC-II that is hiding inside of the ash tray. If someone happened to get access to the inside of the car and cut that out, they could have a free SAFC-II AND the car wouldn't run and it would be hell to get it back up and running.

Of course I will never condone anything happening to this persons car.............

As much as I love the way the FD looks, I'll probably never own one. I don't want to spend 10 grand on top of the purchase price along with lots of time trying to make the stupid thing reliable. I've worked on my friend's FD enough to know I don't need those headaches.

If I ever did own one though, it would probably get me excommunicated from the RX-7 community. I'd yank the engine, turbos, and transmission and sell them. Then I'd install a naturally aspirated Renesis, a lighweight aluminum flywheel, and an RX-8 (or equivalent) 6 speed transmission. I'd use 4 fuel injectors and a cable throttlebody and would control it all with the factory wiring harness using a Power FC for full tuning capabilities. I'd never have to worry about it overheating and it would be about as fast as a stock FD which is fast enough for me. It would also be lighter than the stock FD which is a good thing as that car is already pretty light. On top of that I'd run it on good old 87 octane! I guarantee that once I tuned it, in a car that light with it's 4.10:1 rear end ratio, I could get 20+ mpg city all day long and at least 30 mpg hwy AND pass a sniffer test!

That's my dream FD. If I said this on the 7 forum, I'd get flamed hard!

That's too funny. That's similar to what Rick would do. He would at least do an FD engine but change it to NA and he would also alter the gearing like you're suggesting.

All the RX vehicles have some appeal to me. It does suck when they become infested by people with bad intentions or who think a rebuilt engine should cost $1000. Just my 2 cents.

Paul.

Thanks for the Info and yes I do know about those "reliability"mods, well 1 of them anyways.
Isn't those stupid 70rubber hoses that caused all those ghey problems? Wouldn't silicon hoses help?

RX-8s are getting cheap enough for teenagers to get their hands on them. Ahem. They seem to be uncommon enough to avoid most of the ricers, though.

Speaking of which we have a new member who's 16 and got a 05 AT Shinka from the parents. His interests are street racing...

If you guys ever think your RX-8's get poor fuel mileage just remember that your cars weight 300-400 lbs more than the RX-7s did, have more power by far than all but the FD, and have either a 4.44:1 or 4.77:1 rear end ratio as opposed to all but the auto RX-7's at 4.10:1 and you still get roughly the same gas mileage and you do it with a fraction of the emissions. The RX-8 is a really good car. Many RX-7 people just can't accept the fact that their cars are old technology. Even the FD's.

Hooray!! FRED, can you post this over to the RX-7 Forum, so those KIDS (sorry) can hear it from a Rotary Legend who actually has the experience. I have been saying this for some time the RX-8 is by FAR the BEST EVERY RX- made to actually LIVE with.

Best Handling, Braking and most comfortable one at that.
Yes the FD has more top end power (it is a twin turbo), but to live with day to day as a daily...no thanks.

I know of a long term 8 owner who sold it and bought a mint Japanese import FD and agrees 110% with me, I think he really misses his RX-8.
And he wants my RX-8 "IF" I ever want to sell it...
The ONLY thing I dislike with a passion is Mazda's BULLSHIT Paintwork, it is rubbish, chips and scratches far too easily, and way too thin.Terrible!