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Mawnee
06-27-2009, 12:39 PM
Trying to get a base map put together that will let me safely drive the car around for some tuning and logging. I start tearing it down for the install tomorrow so I'm trying to get it put together. Still need to pull down the timing map as well. Shooting for excessively safe:

Updated with my V2

http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp183/Wizardcomputers/TurbobasetuneV2.jpg

Opinions, input, advice appreciated :)

Kane
06-27-2009, 01:12 PM
You need to up your load to 2.

Mawnee
06-27-2009, 01:17 PM
You need to up your load to 2.

ooooh yea..duh. Thanks Kane :)

Is there a way to do that globaly? Or will I have to modify ALL the tables individually?

Kane
06-27-2009, 04:19 PM
Gotta go one at a time.... thorough them all.

Mawnee
06-27-2009, 06:57 PM
Gotta go one at a time.... thorough them all.

Thanks Kane :) Just got home from work and back to tinkering on it.

Ok I've redone the load for all the Air/fuel Gear and Timing maps. Do I need to do the same for the Closed loop tables and VE table? Or will it ignore those when I exceed that load and just go off my set A/F and Timing?

Kane
06-27-2009, 07:09 PM
I am a stickler for detail... so I scale them all - but I don't think you have too - just the Timing, Fuel, Throttle, Accel, OMP type ones.

Mawnee
06-27-2009, 07:12 PM
Roger, I'll do them all too then. :D:

Brettus
06-27-2009, 07:18 PM
I predict much bogging in your future LOL

Do some work on MAF scaling at low loads (kanes' thread) before you get too much into boost

Mawnee
06-27-2009, 07:26 PM
I predict much bogging in your future LOL

Do some work on MAF scaling at low loads (kanes' thread) before you get too much into boost

Lol yep! :lol:
Same way I did my vette though. Crazy safe then lean it up a bit at a time until I get a feel for how it reacts to the tuning.

I think since I went ahead and bought the Boost controller I'll try to set my WG up for 6PSI and tune it there until I get a tune nailed down.

Mawnee
06-27-2009, 08:53 PM
Updated OP with Load adjusted. Also added my timing maps :)

Kane
06-27-2009, 09:05 PM
It is very very safe.

Mawnee
06-27-2009, 09:16 PM
It is very very safe.

Yay! I winz!

I Figure that will get me running enough to putt around and make sure I dont have any leaks or mechanical issues. Do a few logs and watch my wideband, get my MAF scaled then start pulling fuel :)

Also going to weld my exhaust tips on so they protrude enough not to set my bumper on fire :lol:

Kane
06-27-2009, 09:20 PM
Just watch your EGT's.... over-rich and retarded tends to make the motor and exhaust very warm...

Mawnee
06-27-2009, 09:32 PM
Just watch your EGT's.... over-rich and retarded tends to make the motor and exhaust very warm...

I thought that made Paris Hilton?

Yep, not going to do any long drives like this, just to do a run or two. I'm going to make a couple of other complete tunes with the fuel leaned out a bit more on each one. That way I can just step up to the next tune until I get close then start tweaking.
I actually live on a long, straight, sparsely populated road so I can go to the end of the road and back to get 1st-3rd runs in :)

Kane
06-27-2009, 09:36 PM
Feel free to use my MAF Scaling software as well if you like.

LOL @ Paris Hilton - that was the best answer I have ever heard.

Mawnee
06-27-2009, 10:01 PM
Feel free to use my MAF Scaling software as well if you like.

LOL @ Paris Hilton - that was the best answer I have ever heard.

You bet, I'll definetly give it a try. Thanks for all the input :beerchug:

carbonRX8
06-27-2009, 11:35 PM
Just to note, the limiter tables (and others) need to be adjusted out to the proper load as well.

With that fuel table and a calibrated maf, you will not be able to get into boost. It'll bog first.

I would like to know what the highest load and highest RPM can be set to stoich on a load-based map, if anyone would like to comment.

Kane
06-27-2009, 11:40 PM
I do 50%; and no higher than 4500 RPM personally.

Brettus
06-27-2009, 11:54 PM
I do 50%; and no higher than 4500 RPM personally.

interesting - left mine pretty much stock in that range . That would improve fuel economy at high speed cruising a little i guess .

Mawnee
06-27-2009, 11:55 PM
Maybe just run with my next Leaner map fromt he start ?


http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp183/Wizardcomputers/BaseAFmapV2.jpg

carbonRX8
06-28-2009, 12:17 AM
interesting - left mine pretty much stock in that range . That would improve fuel economy at high speed cruising a little i guess .

IIRC, stock is not stoich at .5 and 4500; it is less.



Maybe just run with my next Leaner map fromt he start ?


http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp183/Wizardcomputers/BaseAFmapV2.jpg


Mawnee, this is very close to my starter map for 3/4 gear, tho mine is richer at high rpm and low load.

Brettus
06-28-2009, 12:21 AM
IIRC, stock is not stoich at .5 and 4500; it is less.
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yes that's what I meant . If you set it to 1.0 it would be quite a bit leaner than stock giving you better economy at cruise ....

carbonRX8
06-28-2009, 06:40 AM
Oh, I understand what you are saying now. Thanks.

And I appretiate the understanding for the threadjack, Mawnee. GL!

Kane
06-28-2009, 01:44 PM
Yeah once you lose the cat you can pull all kinds of fuel out of the lower load areas - honestly, if you really wanted to try - just keep leaning it out until it starts to buck at cruise.... I wouldn't - but me and Faille did get the FD to run 16.2 at cruise with no issues.

Brettus
06-28-2009, 06:12 PM
Yeah once you lose the cat you can pull all kinds of fuel out of the lower load areas - honestly, if you really wanted to try - just keep leaning it out until it starts to buck at cruise.... I wouldn't - but me and Faille did get the FD to run 16.2 at cruise with no issues.

Cool - might have to try this - run lean at cruise to make up for all that gas i use when the boost kicks in .....

chickenwafer
06-29-2009, 01:56 PM
If those are the only tables your altered then your car will still have a hard timing running even remotely right.

The Calculated Load Max tables, limiters, Baro comp, etc all need adjustment. I would also adjust the OMP output as well

Also you MAF scaling will sorely be off, so dial that in before you start pulling fuel from anything. Tuning on a MAF based system is much different than MAP