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Rems31
05-01-2009, 10:23 AM
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/safety/impaired/fact-sheet.shtml#adls

We're serious about removing dangerous drivers from our roads. Those who choose to drive after drinking endanger themselves and everyone else.

Roadside licence suspensions ensure that drinking drivers are taken off the road immediately and discourage individuals from re-offending.

As of May 1, 2009, if you’re caught driving with a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) from 0.05 to 0.08 (known as the "warn range"), the police can immediately suspend your licence up to three days for a first occurrence, seven days for a second occurrence and 30 days for a third or subsequent occurrence.
Consequences for Driving with a 0.05 to 0.08 "Warn Range" Blood Alcohol Concentration

First Time

* 3-day licence suspension
* $150 Administrative Monetary Penalty

Second Time (within 5 years)

* 7-day licence suspension
* Mandatory alcohol education program
* $150 Administrative Monetary Penalty

Third Time (within 5 years)

* 30-day licence suspension
* Mandatory alcohol treatment program
* Six-month ignition interlock licence condition
* $150 Administrative Monetary Penalty

Subsequent infractions (within 5 years)

* 30-day licence suspension
* Mandatory alcohol treatment program
* Six-month ignition interlock licence condition
* Mandatory medical evaluation
* $150 Administrative Monetary Penalty
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abs016
05-01-2009, 10:31 AM
I heard about this on the radio. They were saying that the limit of 0.05% can be crossed by just 1 drink. So, expect a lot of tickets this weekend.

As much as I support tougher driving laws, some laws just don't make sense.

Sigh!

They should just make it 0.00% so that there is no ambiguity about what a person can drink before driving. Atleast, the rule will be clear.

Footman
05-01-2009, 10:32 AM
The problem is... how much is "0.05 to 0.08 BAC"? It's not something easily measurable at the bar!!! Is that 1 shot of 40%? 1 pint of 5% beer? I dunno.. I have no idea! and many people out there don't either...

I think it's purposely like that to essentially suggest that don't drink AT ALL before driving. Zero-alcohol is recommended.

Rems31
05-01-2009, 10:42 AM
Now how will insurance companies treat these new suspensions?
Cuz now those two beers you had may then deem you uninsurable if your license is suspended. Then you'll have to be insured through the involuntary market (where the rates arent exactly the most friendly to your bank account).

abs016
05-01-2009, 10:59 AM
Out of curiosity, what happens if you happen to take any meds that spike your BAC to over 0.05%. I know it is unlikely, but what then ...

ZmFnZm
05-01-2009, 09:34 PM
We live in the nanny state!!!!! ARGH.... Not that i'm for drinking and driving, i think it's one of the stupidest things you can do, but these laws in Ontario are getting ridiculous...

Thumper3322
05-01-2009, 11:37 PM
WTF that is like maybe one pint...that is retarded!!

edit - I'm 100% against drinking and driving, but .05 is excessive and really probably less than a pint on a average male.

spence15
05-02-2009, 12:57 PM
I hate this new law,

1st of all, either ban it all or keep a standard 0.08 don't have a BS warning range. As far as im concerned its a complete cash grab. People shouldn't be penalized for being UNDER the legal limit.

#2, I find DUI's all retarded, the government loves to penalize people, its one thing to be completely drunk and drive, clearly your risking other people, and yourself, but implementing a number does no justice. The government should be liable for providing either a vehicle ignition interlock, or at least brealizers that can hold up in court as valid evidence. People have no way of finding out whether they are too drunk to drive, 0.08 is already so un-noticable.

#3, I have a friend that got a morning DUI after a hard night of drinking, clearly his intentions were good to STAY the night and make sure he didn't drive till the next day, but still the law disregards good behaviour, and this warning law will only further prove that.

Theres truely never a point in taking your vehicle anywhere theres alcohol.

The government needs to make it a zero tolerence, its both easily to understand and extremely safe, so what are they waiting for.

shazy
05-02-2009, 08:15 PM
YAY, glad I'm muslim :)

But that is dumb, then what the hell is the normal range?