View Full Version : Is the FordGT the most impressive car under 500k in the world?


Ike
12-22-2003, 04:45 AM
I never thought I would see the day where Ford builds one of the most amazing cars in the world. It's retro cool, goes like a bat out of hell, and is a downright bargain compared to most supercars. If I hit the lottery some day soon this would be my first purchase, thanks Carroll Shelby!

RobDickinson
12-22-2003, 04:57 AM
wtf has carroll shelby got to do with the new ford GT? Did he hane any involvment?

I was under the impression the engine was a parts bin special, lotus sorted the chassi etc.


Edit :-
I think its anice car too. Tho I doubt a lottery win would garontee you one (least here).

Ford Uk have over 2000(firm) orders for the car, and there only bringing 100ish to the UK.

What a choice though, Lamborghini gallardo, Ford GT, Ferrari360, AM DB9 porker turbo.... life must be tough for some peeps

Sin
12-22-2003, 05:06 AM
No...straight forward...I guess there is just alot more cars I would put in front of it IMO.

matt
12-22-2003, 08:00 AM
I saw the production model in Monterey in Aug. Stunning car. Stickers @ $150k. It's a bargain at that price. There are many other cars that are even more impressive under 500K. The Lamborghini Murc, Ferrari 288 GTO, Ferrari F-40, Lotus Elise, Lotus Esprit, P Gt3.

Those are my favorites.

Dick Carlson
12-22-2003, 09:21 AM
Here are some Monterey photos from the long lead on Monday after the races. First is Dan Gurney waiting for his drive.

Dick Carlson
12-22-2003, 09:23 AM
The bare chassis. Impressive, I thought. I'd never heard that Lotus had anything to do with it, though.

Dick Carlson
12-22-2003, 09:23 AM
Entering the pit lane at Laguna Seca.

Dick Carlson
12-22-2003, 09:24 AM
Bumper sticker on one of the Ferraris that Ford was using for comparison.

zerohour
12-22-2003, 09:29 AM
Honestly i dont like it. Id take a lotus in a heartbeat or an F40 mmmmmmm.

Dick Carlson
12-22-2003, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by RobDickinson


I was under the impression the engine was a parts bin special,

Engine is built by Roush, and sounds like a right proper lump. Check the latest issue of Car & Driver.

BOOSTD 7
12-22-2003, 11:31 AM
I'd take a Gallardo over a GT40. And the Porsche GT is under 500K. I'd easily take one of those over a GT40. Might even take a 911 Turbo Convertible over a GT40 ... or one of those supercharged Saturns!

Dick Carlson
12-22-2003, 11:51 AM
I think the original sentiment was about a $150K supercar, not an unlimited budget car. If that were the case, I'd still go for a McLaren F1.

Also, it's the "Ford GT" - the GT40 is the original '60s car.

RCCAZ 1
12-22-2003, 12:12 PM
Considering that the new NSX is going to come in at slightly over $100K (if I remember correctly), and the GT looks like quite a bit of bang for the buck.

Ike
12-22-2003, 02:06 PM
Just pure performance there are few things in the world that could outrun a FordGT on a track. Carroll Shelby did some consulting on the car and certainly is the main reason why the car has such a rich racing history and was probably even made in the first place. I haven't heard anything about Lotus having anything to do with the chassis either.


For those of you that don't realize how fast this car is, there's probably only one production car in the world that could outrun it stock for stock. Here's a link to the article that someone mentioned.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=15&article_id=7565

I found this little blurb especially startling...

"It wasn't even a contest. The Ford GT so completely dusted off its two highly recognized competitors that if we had wanted to make this a real challenge, we would have had to go way up the "supercar" price ladder. The $401,000 Saleen S7 is about as quick as the Ford GT, and we know of only one car that would surely outrun the Ford—the $659,000 Ferrari Enzo.

Rocketing the GT to 60 mph in 3.3 seconds and to 150 in 16.9 (that's an incredible seven seconds quicker than the Porsche and the Ferrari) was a cinch. Unlike some other supercars that have hair-trigger clutches with monstrously heavy pedal efforts, the GT's clutch was as easy to operate as a Honda Accord's."


Don't get me wrong, I would love to have any of the cars mentioned in this post, but the Ford GT has such an aura about it and is so engrained in racing history that for me it would be hard to pass it up for anything else this side of 500k.

Knerk
12-22-2003, 02:24 PM
The aura comes from the maker being Ford- All these other cars have these luxury/supercar pedigrees behind them. I like the idea that someone in a Lamborghini can be dusted by a car that is made by the same people that brought you the Festiva

Ike
12-22-2003, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by Knerk
The aura comes from the maker being Ford- All these other cars have these luxury/supercar pedigrees behind them. I like the idea that someone in a Lamborghini can be dusted by a car that is made by the same people that brought you the Festiva

For me that may be a small part of it, but the main reason I say it has an Aura is for the same reason Wrigley field is such a wonderful place. It's a piece of americana, and brings back childhood memories of my father talking about it's predecessor, and reading about it's racing feats before I could even drive a car myself.

moogle
12-24-2003, 03:38 PM
you should've said under 200k;carrera gt goes all the way

Ike
12-24-2003, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by moogle
you should've said under 200k;carrera gt goes all the way

I don't think it's been released yet, however it is very close...

rotarygod
12-24-2003, 11:50 PM
I'm not sure what the price is but the new Mercedes McLaren SLR is damn impressive. It should be right on par with the Carerra GT from Porsche which is definitely a car to die for. I do like the new GT. I thought the original GT40 was a beautiful car. I can't remember which magazine has a shootout right now but one has a duel between the new Viper and the GT. The Viper barely edges it out almost everywhere but in reality it is too close to call. The new Viper stops from 60 mph in just 97 ft though. That has got to be some kind of record for a production car. While I'm not a big Viper fan, for just over half the price of the GT, Dodge has a car that is easily on par and possibly superior to the GT. I prefer the looks of the GT though.

Ike
12-25-2003, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by rotarygod
I'm not sure what the price is but the new Mercedes McLaren SLR is damn impressive. It should be right on par with the Carerra GT from Porsche which is definitely a car to die for. I do like the new GT. I thought the original GT40 was a beautiful car. I can't remember which magazine has a shootout right now but one has a duel between the new Viper and the GT. The Viper barely edges it out almost everywhere but in reality it is too close to call. The new Viper stops from 60 mph in just 97 ft though. That has got to be some kind of record for a production car. While I'm not a big Viper fan, for just over half the price of the GT, Dodge has a car that is easily on par and possibly superior to the GT. I prefer the looks of the GT though.

Are you sure about that number for the braking? I believe when C&D tested the Viper they came up with 153ft 70-0 which is the same number the Ford GT has. Let me know if you remember what Magazine has the comparison. Considering cost the Viper is very impressive but I would be shocked to see it put up similar performance numbers to the Ford GT.

rotarygod
12-25-2003, 01:54 AM
Yep, from 60-0 they got 97 feet for the Viper and 109 feet for the GT which is still a very good number. The first gen Viper couldn't stop good if it used an aircraft carrier arrestor cable. The results were that in the quarter mile the Viper beat the GT by a mere 100th of a second but at about 1 mph slower. Too close to call. In the slalom the Viper just edged out the GT. In braking as stated earlier the Viper won. The Viper was just a tad slower to 60 though but again it was almost too close to call. I still like the GT better though in looks. It is just a neater looking car. There obviously is a car that compares to the GT for under $500K and possibly for almost half the price. I've just never been a Viper fan, regardless of how fast they are.

Dick Carlson
12-25-2003, 07:05 AM
Was that a stock Viper or the competition coupe? Do you know what magazine that was?

rotarygod
12-25-2003, 03:07 PM
I left the magazine at my girlfriends house. I'll be there later so I'll tell you what issue and which magazine when I get there.

PetersonPeleRx8
12-25-2003, 11:39 PM
Hey fellas I have the mag...

It's Motor Trend's January issue.

RotaryGod:

You said the Viper just edged out the GT in the slalom, but the numbers I have say the GT clocked in at 71.5 MPH and the Viper at 70.4... I'm almost pretty sure that the faster mph means the GT won... but then again I don't know tooo much about cars so correct me if I'm wrong.

Dick Carlson:

It was a '04 SRT 10 Viper with 500 horsies @5600 RPM and 525 lb. torque @ 4200 RPM.

While the GT had 500 in both.

Hope I was of some help!!

And hope you guys had a great christmas!!

Brit

Hornet
12-26-2003, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by PetersonPeleRx8
Hey fellas I have the mag...

It's Motor Trend's January issue.

RotaryGod:

You said the Viper just edged out the GT in the slalom, but the numbers I have say the GT clocked in at 71.5 MPH and the Viper at 70.4... I'm almost pretty sure that the faster mph means the GT won... but then again I don't know tooo much about cars so correct me if I'm wrong.

Dick Carlson:

It was a '04 SRT 10 Viper with 500 horsies @5600 RPM and 525 lb. torque @ 4200 RPM.

While the GT had 500 in both.

Hope I was of some help!!

And hope you guys had a great christmas!!

Brit

In that same magazine is the Porsche Carrera GT looking like it may lay a beating on a Ford GT (although not almost 3x the price worth).

Here are some of the test numbers directly from that MT (including the Vipers)

----- Viper------------------Ford GT---------------Carrera GT
0-60: 3.9-------------------3.6--------------------3.2
1/4m: 11.77@123---------11.78@124---------11.00@130
60-0: 97ft------------------111ft-----------------97ft
slalom:70.4mph------------71.5mph------------72mph
Price: $80,995-------------$149,995-----------$440,000


Viper does a good job of realing the Ford GT in on the 1/4 mile and the Carrera is just a little overbearing but then again that's at almost 3x the price of the Ford GT. Anybody have some money laying around they want to donate to me to give these cars a real world test drive...

:D

rotarygod
12-27-2003, 02:08 AM
Yep, went back and read it again. The GT did edge out the Viper in the slalom and 0-60. Not by much though. That Porsche is an awesome car. I want to see a shootout between it and the new Mercedes SLR. The SLR can pull 1.3 g's braking! That's impressive.

zoomzooomp5
12-27-2003, 04:18 AM
If I win the lottery, I'll take the Enzo Ferrari. Look much better than the gt40

-=Zeqs=-
12-27-2003, 11:49 AM
Never been big with Ford, but lately, their cars have been getting impressive. SVT Cobra actually does put out close to 400 horses at the wheels. Easily puts over that with the basic exhaust and intake mods.

The GT is one amazing piece of machinery as well. I can't wait for the day that I see one of those on the dyno and on the track.

Hornet
12-27-2003, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by rotarygod
Yep, went back and read it again. The GT did edge out the Viper in the slalom and 0-60. Not by much though. That Porsche is an awesome car. I want to see a shootout between it and the new Mercedes SLR. The SLR can pull 1.3 g's braking! That's impressive.

I can only imagine what would happen if someone didn't wear a seatbelt in that thing at 1.3 g's.